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The Tea Party: Some of their tactics are worth emulating. Their signs, not so much

The Tea Party movement, which rose up in the early years of the Obama presidency to oppose pretty much everything he stood for, was a reactionary, often-embarrassing political spectacle.

But as reactionary, often-embarrassing political spectacles go, it was a pretty effective one. Tea Partiers may have had trouble spelling their slogans correctly, but they managed to block a lot of Obama’s progressive agenda.

Now a group of former congressional staffers with years of experience fighting against the Tea Party are urging fellow progressives to adopt some of that group’s most effective tactics to thwart the incoming Trump regime. In an already much-discussed document called Indivisible: A Practical Guide for Resisting the Trump Agenda, these activists urge Trump opponents to

stand indivisibly opposed to Trump and the members of Congress (MoCs) who would do his bidding. Together, we have the power to resist — and we have the power to win.

We know this because we’ve seen it before. The authors of this guide are former congressional staffers who witnessed the rise of the Tea Party. We saw these activists take on a popular president with a mandate for change and a supermajority in Congress. We saw them organize locally and convince their own MoCs to reject President Obama’s agenda. Their ideas were wrong, cruel, and tinged with racism— and they won.

We believe that protecting our values, our neighbors, and ourselves will require mounting a similar resistance to the Trump agenda — but a resistance built on the values of inclusion, tolerance, and fairness. Trump is not popular. He does not have a mandate. He does not have large congressional majorities. If a small minority in the Tea Party can stop President Obama, then we the majority can stop a petty tyrant named Trump.

One of the great strengths of the Tea Party, the Indivisible authors note, is that it offered unified opposition to virtually everything Obama and his allies stood for — and punished those Republicans who wavered in the anti-Obama crusade.

The Tea Party focused on saying NO to Members of Congress (MoCs) on their home turf. While the Tea Party activists were united by a core set of shared beliefs, they actively avoided developing their own policy agenda. Instead, they had an extraordinary clarity of purpose, united in opposition to President Obama. They didn’t accept concessions and treated weak Republicans as traitors.

Local Tea Party groups focused their attention on their local representatives in Congress, and made life uncomfortable for those Republicans who weren’t willing to be “their voice of opposition on Capitol Hill.” In doing so, they garnered political influence out of proportion to their relatively small numbers.

By adopting a similar strategy, Indivisible argues, the anti-Trump movement could

Stall the Trump agenda by forcing [MoCs] to redirect energy away from their priorities. Congressional offices have limited time and limited people. A day that they spend worrying about you is a day that they’re not ending Medicare, privatizing public schools, or preparing a Muslim registry.

Sap Representatives’ will to support or drive reactionary change. If you do this right, you will have an outsized impact. Every time your MoC signs on to a bill, takes a position, or makes a statement, a little part of his or her mind will be thinking: “How am I going to explain this to the angry constituents who keep showing up at my events and demanding answers?”

Reaffirm the illegitimacy of the Trump agenda. The hard truth is that Trump, McConnell, and Ryan will have the votes to cause some damage. But by objecting as loudly and powerfully as possible, and by centering the voices of those who are most affected by their agenda, you can ensure that people understand exactly how bad these laws are from the very start – priming the ground for the 2018 midterms and their repeal when Democrats retake power.

Indivisible runs through these lessons from the Tea Party fairly quickly, and follows them up with a good deal of very practical advice on how to best get the attention of local MoC’s — from organized phone calling to office sit-ins.

The guide is free. I think it will prove invaluable to anti-Trump activists over the next several years.

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Pol
Pol
4 years ago

Are you for real Michael?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

I want to emphasize that all of this means laying pressure on Democrats. Republicans will just shrug us off as cranks who will never vote for them anyway. Anyone who has been angry at how Democrats have become Republican-lite over the past ~2 or 3 decades needs to channel that anger in a productive direction. Demand that Democrats be progressive and block any legislation that doesn’t pass the purity test, and the rest will handle itself. There has to be a purity test, and real progressives have to hold the line on it, and not accept half a loaf, or a quarter of a loaf, or whatever crumbs the Republicans are willing to drop in front of us in the process of fucking over the country. Republicans will never be willing to offer more than a slice or so of bread anyway and we’d be lucky to get that much, so just holding the line on a purity test will accomplish obstruction by default.

Democrats need to be as terrified of primary challenges as Republicans have become. They won’t be if progressives are willing to shrug and walk away, appeased by crumbs.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

@POM, I totally agree that you guys have to put the pressure on your Democrats, but I don’t think that just writing off Republicans will work. People in areas with Republican representatives still have an important job to do, in my opinion. They might write you all off as cranks when you call, but if it’s a huge number of voices, and they’re constant, calling them can have a large impact.

Make them fear their phones, give them a bit of that telephone-anxiety. It won’t change their minds – I have zero illusions about that – but it will make their support staff frazzled and hopefully quit; it’ll hopefully put cracks into their organization, making them less capable of getting things done. It might even make them hesitant to speak up or provide vocal support for things they’re doing, out of fear of the phone lines. I think that’s a valid tactic, and a valuable one.

I’m quite willing to be shown wrong on that, mind you! I just think that the psychological pressure of being exposed to constant anger from a phone that you aren’t allowed to ignore is a significant tool to use.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

Also, @Pol, really? Teasing the author for being American, in a blog post about a uniquely American issue?

“Outsized” isn’t some stupid non-word. It’s been around since the 1880’s. Pick something else to feel superior about.

Apologies for my irritability. It’s a little outsized right now.

Pol
Pol
4 years ago

Hi Scildfreja. It’s nice to meet your acquaintance. What author are you talking about here? Mr. David Futrelle is the author and I am certainly not mocking that fine man.

And how is this only an American issue? Haven’t you seen anything in world affairs over the last seventy years. Oh yes, America, just a quaint little hovel that nobody knows about…

Oh and by the way, if you simply focus on the word “outsized”, then you really have failed to read what I said with a full mind to even some intermediate comprehension, haven’t you?

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
4 years ago

… Yes, Pol. I am real. I’m not even using a pseudonym, this is my actual, legal name that I go by every day. You can probably Google me. I’m not the Irish race car driver, but there is a picture of me on the first page of a Google Image search. Not sure why you’re specifically questioning my veracity, though.

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

@ Pol

If you want people to understand your point, don’t just dash off a couple of unclear one-liners.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Pol, if you want people to comprehend your argument, you might try actually making one.

Ninja’d!

Pol
Pol
4 years ago

Oh yes, how silly of me Michael! Thank you my good person. For a second there I though that you were suggesting that you were imitating some quite well known and much appreciated political commentator! All good then 😁

And oh Lindsay and weirwood, I thought much better of you than to accuse me if such a thing. I mean… you DID see what I was saying, didn’t you? Please tell me so for goodness sake.

Gussie Jives
Gussie Jives
4 years ago

Hey there! Long-time reader, occasional poster. I just wanted to chip in my two cents.

I’m not sure how many of you Mammotheers out there listen to The Professional Left podcast with Driftglass and Bluegal, but their language and insight into politics is matched only by a few (I’m thinking namely of Sam Seder). They have many a wonderful turn of phrase for right-wingers in America and I think it’s important for any path forward to consider a few key points.

Start local. – I’m of the opinion that any progressive resurgence has to start at the ground up. You only build a lasting dynasty by nurturing your prospects, so encouraging young people in particular to run for local office will help build that deep bench of potential nominees in 10-20 years. Grassroots movements like Moral Mondays also have the capacity to get your message out there in a way that people in the community take notice.

The Republican Party must be blown up. – Playing nice with Republicans and believing them to be honest actors has been Barack Obama’s fatal flaw that cost him a lot in his first term. America can’t go forward unless the Republican Party is soundly defeated electorally and not allowed to recover. Don’t give them anything, because they have never acted in good faith. Don’t trust them, don’t take their word for anything. They have to have a boot heel put firmly on their throat and kept there until the extremism either dies off or is cast out.

Ex-pat conservatives go to the back of the line. – Your David Frums and Andrew Sullivans who only recently realized how dreadful modern American conservatism is are the last people you consult for tactics. They have built their careers being wrong and all common sense should have them atoning by never going on another Sunday show again. Yet there they are.

Understand the mainstream media will never act as a referee. – As long as major press outlets play the “both sides do it” game, progressives will be handicapped in trying to get any positive exposure. Sitting idly by and expecting CNN or MSNBC to come out and say “oh shit, the Republican Party really is a bunch of racist bigoted extremists and the plutocrats that enable them!” As long as their ratings depend on access, assholes like Trump are their meal ticket. We need to come to grips with that and plan accordingly.

The die-hards are a lost cause. – Human nature tells us to always hold out hope for the decency in people, but if 40 years of Republican politics have taught us anything, it’s that right-wingers will cut off their own noses to spite “the other” so long as that other is being hurt worse. People that malicious and spiteful are not worth your time and energy to try to appeal to their better angels because they killed those angels the moment they started listening to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News, or shitposting on 4chan or Reddit. Just like General Sherman knew in 1864, they must be proverbially and electorally marched to the sea, then made as comfortable as possible until they shuffle off to their graves. A grim notion, but one that will save a lot of wasted effort.

Republicans are fundamentally incompetent. – They’re masters at gumming up the works, but when it comes to the nuts and bolts of actually governing, that goes against their core brand proposition, which is that government is evil. That and they tend to be the stupidest people in the country. The incompetence of the Bush administration cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars, sadly, but it did get to the point where Anderson Cooper actually called them out on their bullshit from a drowned American city. I can only pray that America manages to avoid any major catastrophe during Trump’s term, but if a Katrina or a financial meltdown happens on his watch, him and his incompetent administration will be floundering so hard that even CNN might have no choice but to take him to task (but don’t rely on it).

Don’t let them wriggle out of responsibility. – This is always the first instinct of a cornered conservative. Individual responsibility is typically cast aside with the refrain “but the XXXX” (Democrats, feminists, SJWs, take your pick). Shut that shit down immediately. More broadly speaking, conservatives as a group will pretend they had nothing to do with the incompetent moron they proudly voted for. Republicans fled from Bush by putting on funny hats and calling themselves the Tea Party or proclaiming they were “independents”. When Trump fails, they will try to pull the same shit. Anticipate it and hold them to their vote. It will serve to discredit them in light of a disastrous Presidency.

I think that’s all I got for the time being. Beyond just be ready for a long fight. This is a war of attrition, not the Super Bowl. Good luck!

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

Oh good, /pol/ the /troll/ is pissing their pants in public again.

Fuck off, you barely-coherent waste of perfectly good eukaryotes. Nobody liked your dopey-ass “How do you do, fellow feminists” schtick and nobody likes your condescending-ass “Burst testicle that somehow learned to type” schtick.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Don’t I recall Pol as an on-again-off-again troll?

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@Pol
Still not convinced you’re not a troll.

@Pendraeg

@Axecaliber And if they give you that $15 dollar minimum wage? Still no then by your philosophy?

Axe already responded to this, but I thought I might chime in as well. In the off chance that the GOP agrees to a $15 minimum wage, it likely won’t be enough. Why? Because that’s what happened here and because the greedy bastards (Democrats, mostly, so don’t think I’m taking “sides” here) who were too deep in the pockets of big business weren’t given enough restrictions on how or when to put that into place, they turned it into a nightmare where sometime in 2030 or some bullshit we’ll finally have that $15 minimum. So if they do agree, it will likely be some kind of trick so that they can stretch it out much, much further than it should be and we won’t be able to get people the money they need to fucking survive soon enough.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

@Policy of Madness
You recalled with perfect accuracy.

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
4 years ago
Reply to  PPreuxFox

True enough. I’m pretty limited in what I can do by virtue of my federal position. I can donate, attend rallies as a spectator, and vote, but I’m explicitly not allowed to participate in campaigns in any active capacity, which includes calling representatives in any kind of organized effort. Sucks, but it’s the law.

Pol
Pol
4 years ago

Ha ha ha, the trash talkin’ SFHC! Love it! And where DO you get those phrases from exactly ?

But I do admit Policy of M, I know that I can be seen as an on-again off-again troll but my intentions are decent and I think that the future will vindicate me. Well, eventually.

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

I think that the future will vindicate me

Because we’ll get the secret decoder ring that will allow us to decipher your posts?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

my intentions are decent

Citation needed.

eta: Jesus, Michael, what did you do to piss off the mammoth this time? This is the second page of comments where it’s your post doing the drift thing.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@Pol
I dgaf what your intentions are.

Pol
Pol
4 years ago

Ishh, tell me about it Brew. The Law is an ass. Well OK, mostly but not always.

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
4 years ago

Yo, PoM, I’m just researching a role for Fast and Furious: Mammotheer Drift.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

@Michael

Gotcha, carry on.

Pol
Pol
4 years ago

“Because we’ll get the secret decoder ring that will allow us to decipher your posts?”

Yes Lindsay.I! Just cut around the dotted line and send the coupon too… well I am still trying to wrangle a decent P.O. box. Don’t worry it’s comin’ though.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I think Pol started the new years drinking a little early.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

I think Pol thinks they’re being funny.

guest
guest
4 years ago

Dude, Descent was my favourite video game, don’t let the TP have it.

Conan the Librarian
Conan the Librarian
4 years ago

@pendraeg

And what if they give you that $15 minimum wage

Lol. Why the interest in debating hypothetical situations in an alternate reality where a higher minimum wage of any kind would be in offer from the Republicans?

How about we talk about strategies for dealing with the Republicans that exist in this reality we happen to exist in?

JS
JS
4 years ago

Hi Pol, just so you know… “Pleased to meet your acquaintance” doesn’t improve the politeness of your speech, nor convince me you’re not a troll. Your first 2 comments were basically “Oh, how American” (said as if that was an insult), and “Michael are you for real” (ad hominem), so you hit “I’m probably a troll” in your first 2 steps.

Then the usual off-topic weirdness involving secret decoder rings, etc… Come on, you can actually try and convince us of things if you want, but at this point you’ve convinced me that you’re just another incoherent troll who thinks it’s fun to get responses to nonsense.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

Hi @Pol. I’ll answer in detail.

Hi Scildfreja. It’s nice to meet your acquaintance. What author are you talking about here? Mr. David Futrelle is the author and I am certainly not mocking that fine man.

You were mocking the person who used the term “Outsized.” People, properly. You know, the ones that are the subject of the article? The “group of former congressional staffers with years of experience fighting against the Tea Party” – those people?

Yeah, they’re the ones you’re mocking, by mocking their choice of words. How very on topic of you.

And how is this only an American issue? Haven’t you seen anything in world affairs over the last seventy years. Oh yes, America, just a quaint little hovel that nobody knows about…

Did I say that it affects only America? No. It is, however, an American issue. Because it’s happening in America, United States of. Perhaps it’s my use of uniquely that’s confusing you? Maybe it’d clarify things to say that Trump is an American politician and, despite the effects that America has on the world, he isn’t in fact President of the World? Does that make it more clear?

Oh and by the way, if you simply focus on the word “outsized”, then you really have failed to read what I said with a full mind to even some intermediate comprehension, haven’t you?

Yes, please. Get arrogant about linguistics. Shall we break this down?

You had posted two lines. The first line was just quoting the phrase containing the word ‘outsized’; meaning that you only posted a single original sentence. I’ll recreate it in full for you here: “Oh really now, can we get anymore American?”

That’s composed of two phrases. “Oh really now” is the first and is content-free, but does set an emotional frame. It indicates that the subject of discussion (The first, quoted sentence) is not worthy of consideration and is wrong in some way. It’s also used to mock or ridicule. (“Oh really now” and other, similar phrases are incredibly complex little knots of meaning-modification. That’s the short form.)

The second phrase, “can we get anymore American” contains a spelling error (“anymore” when joined in that fashion is used specifically in reference to a timeframe and not a volume) but that’s beside the point. “Can we get any more American” is a specifier for the first phrase, indicating that the mockery should be directed towards American grammar and word selection.

Would you like me to diagram this? I could also write it as a Fuseki rule set if you’d like. Perhaps that might be proof of my intermediate understanding of what you’ve said?

You wrote a single sentence, almost entirely devoid of content, and you want to mock me for poor comprehension?

lol

You seem to have the unfortunately common ailment of believing that other people can read your mind. I could pull that apart too, but I don’t imagine it’s worth it. It’s called the mind projection fallacy, or typical mind fallacy, for anyone interested.

Don’t mock Americans for talking like Americans.

Don’t mock people for talking in the way their culture speaks.

Certainly don’t mock people’s word choice when the actual topic of their speech is so much more important than whether they use a word you find silly.

In this manner is truth pursued.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

Fluttershy is still best pony. <3

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
4 years ago

@WWTH

I think Pol started the new years drinking a little early.

To be fair, I did too.

@Pol

I guess we ain’t the same kinda drunk though. I mean, “let’s go troll a feminist blog without actually making a point” ain’t exactly the first thing come to my mind when I’ve had a few. And believe me, a lot of stupid things come to my mind when I’ve had a few.

Like, right now, I’m building a catapult, and I ain’t even shitting ya.

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
4 years ago
Reply to  kupo

That’s a funny way to spell Rarity.

Handsome (Punkle Stan) Jack

Attack, Attack, Attaaaaaaaaack!

When to the wall you find your back…

Michael Brew–I’m not the Irish race car driver

Michael Brew, an Irish race car driver?

That’s the kind of name Family Guy would use for a cutaway gag involving NASCAR and car crashes, jesus.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

A little late to the party, but:

@Pendraeg

Saying that we can’t engage in the same actions as the Tea Party is a largely useless statement unless you understand why we disagree with the Tea Party’s actions. It’s especially useless to say that an action is bad because it was done by the Tea Party. The Tea Party breathes. So do I. This is not a slippery slope.

You’re talking about top level “ethics” while ignoring the context. Context is important. There’s a reason we distinguish between the system of racism perpetuated by white people and individual instances of minorities discriminating against whites. Context.

The Tea Party aren’t fascist because they are obstructionist. The Tea Party is fascist because they support fascism. You’re effectively pulling the same “what if the genders were reversed??” shtick that MRAs are so fond of. The genders aren’t reversed. The shoe is not on the other foot. Because if it was, everything else would be different. Context is important.

Falconer
Falconer
4 years ago

@guest

Dude, Descent was my favourite video game, don’t let the TP have it.

Descent came with the first Windows computer my family bought. My brother and I played it and played it, but I could never get past the first big fight, what, on Mars? Where there’s no maze, just a big circular arena.

Anyways, Descents 1-3 are available at GOG and I just learned about this beauty.

guest
guest
4 years ago

@Falconer Oh, very nice 🙂 I had Descent on my office computer and while the receptionist kicked my boss’s ass in Castle Wolfenstein I used to just fly around–I was never much into shooting things, but got to be a pretty good 3D pilot (our IT guy was an ubergeek and installed games for us for free).

Some recommended reading for Pendraeg and others–same set of questions, wider screen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endgame_(Derrick_Jensen_books)

Jensen mentions someone quoting Audre Lorde to him–‘the master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house.’ ‘I’m guessing that Audre Lord, for all of her wonderful capabilities as a writer, thinker, activist, and human being never in her entire life dismantled a house. Had she done that, she could never have made up this metaphor, because you sure as hell can use the master’s tools to dismantle his house.’

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@Michael Brew
In case you didn’t know, Scildfreja frequently uses Fluttershy gifs when posting, so my post was more about how awesome her takedown was than anything to do with MLP. I’ve only actually watched one episode of Friendship is Magic, so I don’t personally have a favorite pony. 🙂

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
4 years ago

Seconding kupo. I’ve never watched MLP, but Fluttershy is best pony.

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
4 years ago

I just don’t know how everyone keeps misspelling Rarity.

Michael Brew
Michael Brew
4 years ago
Reply to  guest

Wow. While I agree with the sentiment relayed from this Jensen guy, the list of premises reminds me a bit starkly of Ayn Rand’s Objectivism, albeit with the opposite point of view when it comes to whether rich people or poor people are to blame and the value of nature vs. industry.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago
mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
4 years ago

Did we already post this Michael Moore interview on one of the #ResistTrump threads? *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbaqst_B498

Number 5 is downright depressing. However, the idea of your own personal small “Ready Response Team” looks like a goer for a good many people. Half a dozen people – friends, family, neighbours, workmates – all lined up for relevant/ newsworthy days. You don’t have to go on protest marches or any specific thing, you can choose which political issue/s will be your priority. You simply have to be part of your own (tiny) telephone tree to spread the word when emails, fact checking, letters, petitions, visits have to be organised.

*Sorry I haven’t searched myself. I’m itchy and tired and itchy and irritable and itchy and I’ve had about 2 hours sleep overnight and I have to ring the doctor. Anything more and I’ll be in tears and/or ripping my own skin off my own legs.

Handsome (Punkle Stan) Jack

Why is it always Fluttershy or Rarity? Why never Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie?

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

I love Rainbow Dash and Twily and Rarity and all of them, but I don’t want to lay claim to the whole group of them you know! That’d just be greedy.

Moocow
4 years ago

Not to beat a dead horse… Ok, scratch that, I’m totally beating a dead horse. Fuck being respectful to republicans (that ship sailed a long time ago). Fuck being respectful to the putrid orange xenophobe (I will give him the respect that Republicans gave Obama). And most of all FUCK FALSE EQUIVALENCY. It pisses me off how the republican party can get away with literal treason, yet if liberals even hint at being slightly uncooperative then suddenly we’re just as bad. No, we’re not.

Seriously, “this is why Trump won” needs to be on a fucking bingo card.

@Handsome Jack

Rainbow Dash is awesome. I always have a fondness for characters that exhibit traits or do activities that are stereotypically considered “the other gender”; it’s refreshing and helps break down oppressive societal assumptions about gender. She’s fierce, competitive and extremely determined.

And it’s funny that you mention her in the same breath as Pinkie Pie because my favorite pony is Pinkie Pie, probably because I relate to her the most. I love that her live goal is just to put a smile on everyone’s face, and that episode with her and the perpetually scowling old guy is probably one of my favorites (though I haven’t watched seasons 3 and onward).

Like Pinkie Pie, if I’m happy and excited I’m full of energy and practically bouncing off the walls. But deep down I’m terrified that people just find me annoying and actually hate me (despite evidence to the contrary). That episode where she freaks out, thinking her friends want to get rid of her, I’ve been there! I’ve legitimately sat at my phone like “I just texted them… and they haven’t answered…. OMG, they clearly hate me!”

dikdik
dikdik
4 years ago

Hiya gang,

I was super sad to see pendraeg’s initial response. Putting ideology over people is heart breaking. It’s never taking the high road if it’s putting vulnerable people at risk.

So thank you all for taking them to task.

As far as best ponies, Apple Bloom will always be the princess of my heart.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

Putting ideology over people is heart breaking. It’s never taking the high road if it’s putting vulnerable people at risk.

Amen.

I get your feelings, @Pendraeg. I really do. But I think you’re missing something. You’ve explained your position to use numerous times, in numerous ways. You aren’t miscommunicating. But we still don’t agree. That’s an indication that you’re missing something. (Alternatively, that we all are missing something that you have, but I can’t yet see it. If you can point out what we’re missing that’d help, but otherwise it’s best to consider that errors are internal.)

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Twilight is probably the most like me. Rarity is still probably my favorite though. Partially for the opposite reason that Moocow likes Rainbow Dash. A lot of times female characters are praised and admired for having masculine coded traits. That’s often the only time it’s socially acceptable for men to like a female character that isn’t there to be a sex object. I like that Rarity has a lot of female coded traits but isn’t treated like a bimbo or a bitch.

Not that there’s anything wrong with being a tomboy!

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

I like that Rarity has a lot of female coded traits but isn’t treated like a bimbo or a bitch.

My favourite points tend to be interactions between Fluttershy and Rarity. I love the way they interact with each other.

(And yes I adore Rarity. She’s great.)

Rhuu
Rhuu
4 years ago

wwth: I definitely get where you are coming from! I like Rarity because she and Applejack are the most put together ponies. They both run businesses, and are successful at them.

While she’s not my favourite, you bring an excellent point about femme characters and the allowable responses. More female characters doing female-coded things that are celebrated as being awesome, please!

I think ‘Art of the Dress’ is my favourite song, because it is totally about the clients and how did they not get that??? Also I really relate to Rarity in that song. “JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WAAAANT”