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It’s fair to say that Donald Trump’s superfans on the far right are feeling pretty chuffed these days. On the proudly reactionary Return of Kings, one alt-righty writer is looking forward to what he predicts will be a utopian future for manly men and womanly women under Trump.
Weirdly, he’s not looking forward to eight or more years of peace and prosperity under the benevolent despotism of The Donald, but to the complete economic collapse he thinks will follow Trump’s swearing-in.
“I predict that we will experience a major crash, far worse than 2008, which will start sometime in mid to late 2017,” regular RoK contributor and self-proclaimed masculinity expert Jon Anthony writes. (Archive here.)
Oh, don’t worry; it won’t be Trump’s fault.
This will … of course, be blamed on Trump’s presidency, but the deplorables will know better: this has been due to the meddling of the central bankers.
Ah yes, the CENTRAL *wink wink* BANKERS *wink wink*.
But even though the collapse will be the fault of these meddling kids bankers, it’s actually going to be pretty great.
[T]ensions will reach an all time high as degenerates don’t receive their welfare checks, and as home owners default on their loans. Expect rioting in a large number of American cities. The suburbs will be relatively protected, but anywhere with a large lower class population will be decimated (think Black Lives Matter, but on a much larger scale).
You may be wondering why all this is supposed to be good. Give him a second; he’s getting to it.
This will likely force Trump to reluctantly call in Marshall Law, which in turn will create even higher tensions.
Ah, good old Marshall Law! I think he used to patrol the streets of Dodge City with Marshall Dillon.
Expect to see elements of the patriarchy re-emerge on a local level.
Ohhhh, I think I see where this is going.
The men in various neighborhoods and families will bond together to ration out food, water, and protection. The women will be tasked with homely duties, as it will be deemed too dangerous to walk the streets alone.
I think I might have heard this little fantasy before. More than once. More than twice.
Although this may sound terrible, it’s actually a good thing. It will start to bring back the patriarchy on a very fundamental, grass-roots level—in our own neighborhoods. This is the catalyst that we will need to bring about the return of a traditional society, living in accordance with nature’s biological laws.
THANKS, TRUMP!
After this, it’s only a hop, skip and a jump to a return to the gold standard, the “final death” of the mainstream media, and, oh yeah, “a new era for America, similar to the transition between the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire.”
And then, well, it’s pretty much the Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
As the patriarchy has now been brought back on a local level, Trump has eliminated political correctness with the help of others like Breitbart, Milo Yiannopoulos, and ROK, and the MSM has lost all credibility, expect local men to start taking back their school systems as well.
The economic crisis will have made it abundantly clear that we need to teach men survival skills, and this will fall into the hands of local men. Expect home schooling to become more and more common, until eventually, private schools start popping up everywhere taking advantage of this new anti-Leftist sentiment.
The same bonds that men formed with their neighbors and tribal members during the economic crisis will now be used to create communities where children play, learn, and grow together. This will start to form a sort of crude educational system on a very local level, which emphasizes the importance of men being able to protect their families, self-reliance, real world skills, and independent thought.
So what will this exciting new sort of crude educational system have to offer the youth of America? Anthony expects “[m]ale/female segregation for at least part of the school day,” the encouragement of “Femininity … in women, and primal masculinity … in men.”
And, oh yeah: “More recess, especially for boys.”
MORE RECESS FOR BOYS!!
IN YOUR FACE, STINKY GIRLS!!11
THANKS, TRUMP!!!
AND SOCIAL COLLAPSE!
And after all this, patriarchy will finally be triumphant ALL ACROSS AMERICA!
As patriarchy becomes more and more popular on a local level, it will begin to foster an entire culture based around the values that made America so successful in the past. …
I believe that a large economic crisis which forces men to band together and form civilized tribes will bring about a severe blow to the establishment. … In other words, the local patriarchy which this severe economic crisis in 2017 will have created, will begin a grass-roots transition into being a full blown cultural shift all throughout America.
IN YOUR FACE, LADIES AND NOT-VERY-MASCULINE MEN!!1!
That which happens out of natural biological tendencies is always far more powerful than an attempt to control them, due to the natural resistance effect. When you align your cause with what is natural (as the manosphere has), there is an inherent power within it due to its truthfulness, that cannot be stopped.
THANKS MOTHER NATURE OH WAIT I MEAN FATHER NATURE!!!11!
I guess we all better start stocking up on beans. And testosterone. Beans and testosterone, two great tastes that taste great together.
We going over the apocalypse survival skills again? I can cook, but suck at making fire the hard way. I can forage. I can catch frogs and snakes and crayfish. I can make useful but fairly crude tools and structures out of sticks and rocks and bones and such, though admittedly I need a lot more practice to do it efficiently. I can provide comfort, whether physical, emotional, or even sexual.
Something I didn’t think to mention last time: I’m not particularly inclined to take on a leadership role, but on the few occasions when I have, I’ve made damned sure that the project was done as close to perfect as possible and within a reasonable amount of time. In a survival situation, you can’t afford to be sloppy. So while I’d mostly be content to follow, I’d also do my best to wrest control away from any incompetent leaders/supervisors if there were any, and take over. I’d like to think that counts as something useful to contribute, even if it ends up causing resentment.
…Also, to those people who have no useful skills, I’d be happy to teach you what I know.
@dlouwe, I do still remember some of my old Boy Scout skills.
As for my survival skills? I would make an OK doctor of sorts. I can at least do CPR. And I am a decent cook. I like cooking. ^.^
Why does every government conspiracy theory revolve around the same Tekken character? It should at least be Heihachi, he’s more of a long-term planning guy.
Also I can start a bonfire with one match 🙂 (and have started fires with flint and steel)
For those of you wondering how you’d ‘earn your keep’ in a post-descent society, I’d like to share with you the work of Penny Spikins:
https://sites.google.com/a/york.ac.uk/how-compassion-made-us-human/
In a talk I went to she described several archaeological finds of the remains of severely physically disabled people who had clearly lived well beyond when they ‘should’ have died, if they’d had to fend for themselves. She pointed out that, in one example, a small nomadic tribe had cared for a (I think) quadriplegic person for years. We don’t leave anyone behind–that’s what being human is all about. (She also writes about evidence for, and the survival benefits of, autistic traits in palaeolithic societies.)
When it comes to procuring food, water, shelter, and protection, I’m not particularly skilled, although I did have a decently productive garden for a couple of years and know how to ride a horse. However, I am a licensed therapist specializing in post-trauma work, and as someone pointed out before, we will all have really gone through some shit if the apocalypse happens. Besides making you feel better, therapy can be extremely useful in helping people overcome unhelpful thinking patterns and preventing sudden, severe lapses of judgment made at heated emotional times (which easily be deadly!), and reducing problems with eating, sleep cycles, and psychosomatic complaints.
I also studied political science, so I could provide some help in structuring a system of governance (every group is going to need some form of governance, even if it’s very small and simple). I also have a good memory, which could be helpful in preserving pieces of culture from “before,” or even the emerging history of our group. And I’m a pretty good singer, if that makes a difference? Entertainment is something that’s wanted in all societies, if not valued at the ridiculously high level it is in the US. At the end of the day, my skills aren’t as directly necessary as finding/preserving food and such, but I like to think I could make a decent addition to any Amazon brigade. It also goes without saying that I would be overjoyed to join a group of such awesome people if the shit really hit the fan.
@Snowberry
Yeah, this is my third one. Sign of the times. I always feel better afterward.
And then you can teach this skill to the rest of us.
@Silky
Maybe you can train all of us in therapeutic first aid skills.
‘And I’m a pretty good singer, if that makes a difference?’
Absolutely!!
@guest
The book about ancient humans and compassion looks intriguing.
Step 1: Apocalypse
Step 2: My favourite political system will emerge automatically because it’s the most logical
This never made any fucking sense, for any desired outcome (except if you simply want destruction and nothing else). The steps leading to it don’t make any sense, especially with that “that TOTALLY must happen!” attitude.
I mean, is it possible? Unfortunatelly yes, but the absolute opposite (like all the alties and their gods getting new neckties and a free lamp post by the pissed off population) is just as likely, as well as a million other possibilities.
Or that the US would fall apart or at least face secession of several regions, which is probably the most likely in case of an absolute collapse.
PS:
And “absolute collapse” I mean, an economic collapse is a “mere” repeat of the earlie 1930s.
PPS:
Note that with “possible” I meant merely that under specific, but generally unlikely (as any other detailed scenario is) circumstances you could end up with an outcome like this (except the MRAs still won’t score, because in such a world the so called “Chads” rule, not doughboys and internet geeks).
@Euroguy
Hmm. The European Randians I know of (mainly economically successful people) believe in a minimal state that basically only encompasses the police force and the military, convenient when you believe that welfare is oppression and the poor are mostly lazy and violent criminals who need to pay equal taxes to protect you from them once you gradually enslave them. They are amongst those who rally for the Nordic welfare states to become more like USA in its tax breaks for rich people and its shitty treatment of poor people.
Yes, they may believe that they, and people like them, will be happy and content in a stateless existence, but only because they believe only well-off people count as actual human beings. They’ve turned willful ignorance about the living condition of the poor into an art form.
I agree with you about American Randians, though.
Oh wow, islamophobia and fascism, two awful tastes in a blender. Refugees escaping from ISIS and the war and seeking shelter in Europe is not an invasion, you racist, empathy-deficient crapmuppet. It’s people running for their lives. It is our duty as human beings to help them, not make up ridiculous conspiracy theories of them “infiltrating” Europe to establish an islamic rule in order to justify being an asshole to them.
If, on the other hand, you think that ISIS can be stopped with fascism, then I’ve got to say I just love* it when fascists seem to honestly believe that the cure for a totalitarian regime is another totalitarian regime. Kinda like you get rid of the giant mutated murderslug in your backyard by bringing in another giant mutated murderslug.
Oh, but don’t worry, our giant mutated murderslug is totally not evil, like that foreign one. Ours is white!
*Meaning that I don’t love it at all.
@guest
Thanks for that link. I’d love to read the book.
Incoming: pointless rant about postapocalyptic scenarios and the concept of “usefulness”:
Anyone who worries what they could do in a situation such as the one discussed… don’t. You would learn, and people would be eager to teach, since that reduces their workload and gives more people the skills needed to run the community. Hell, I’m myself not particularly talented in any survival skills, but a willingness to learn and be a part of the community is what matters.
If your physical or mental state makes your contribution appear less than you would like, don’t beat yourself up over it. I mean, what of all the emotional support you give people just by being there? In a terrible situation such as a postapocalyptic world, that would be worth the world. From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs. Don’t ever see yourself as a burden, because I guarantee you others don’t see you that way, even if it’s for their own sake; Every life is important, and every lost life is a collective loss. You dying would mean that humanity loses the unique individual that is you, and is now infinitely poorer because of that. People would be happy to work harder to have you around. Taking care of each other is what makes us human. If all you can do is exist, then existing is enough.
For my part, I could not live in a world where those who can’t survive on their own get left behind. I’m already having trouble surviving mentally in a capitalist society because of the social darwinism that inevitably lifts its head in every conversation about human rights. I do believe that my depression would stay away in a more direct democracy and a community where everyone is equally valued despite any superficial idea of “contribution”. Since my depression is tied to a feeling of powerlessness in a society that doesn’t give a shit, I would probably not survive a stereotypical hard apocalypse scenario, despite being in very good physical shape and being physically able to contribute more than my share. After all, what would be the point? That I personally survive? Well, whoopty-fuckin’-doo.
@Herbert West
More importantly:
2b) …and I will benefit from this and be in a position of power and influence and respect
Step 2 may come true after all. But it never occurs to them that they’ll simply be shot and have all their stuff taken by people who aren’t just internet tough guys.
Can I join the WHTM Amazon tribe? I may not be useful for growing or hunting food, but I’ve got other useful skills. I’ve got a background in food microbiology so I could help people avoid food poisoning. I also sew, crochet, and once learned how to spin yarn.
You know, there are already people creating community gardens and volunteering in their communities the way these bozos pretend they would, if only society collapsed. When things get harder it will be those same volunteers running warming stations, working with kids and looking out for their neighbors.
Those soft hearted, hard working people who these asshats make fun of for caring about other people and sharing connection and purpose with them are the people who have always and will always step in where they see a need. These dudebros will continue to sit home and whine if things get tougher.
Euroguy,
You spend an awful lot of time imagining other men’s sex lives. Please keep your sour grapes fetish to yourself. Also, claiming over and over again that the only reason men have relationships with women is for sex and that women are even awful for that is misogynist as fuck. You can go your own way now. You won’t be missed.
@Lea
Inbefore “MGTOW is not a destination”.
If you think that’s absurd, well, turns out he might be Mick Dash.
The simple act of calling Europe Europe already means he’s not European (cool sentence 😉 . A European, especially a fascist lover, will ALWAYS refer to hisher own country, and see it as superior to other countries around them anyway. So #giveaway.
^Lea exactly omfg ty. Like, I already help patients, like my sisters, & one is a teacher; like the rest of the world doesnt need an apocalypse to get out there and… uh, you know, just work. just regular-ass work.
@Lone Galtian Bootstrapper
Something bothering me with your post. I’m assuming it wasn’t intentional, but it needs a bit of tweakin’.
“A European fascist lover will ALWAYS refer to hisher own country, and see it as superior to other countries around them anyway.”
There. FTFY.
(’cause, y’know, I’m European)
ETA : eek, forgot something
@Lea & kale
I didn’t Lea’s first post at first, but WORD. The work already gets done everywhere. Sadly MRAtypes (and other types of shitheads) do love to get in the way of that… which says a lot about how deluded they are regarding their contribution to society.
QFT.
you know what else? things they scorn, personalities that are seen as femme or beta cuck or whatever- like idk being kinda shy, being more of a brain than a braun, being. anxious, non confrontational, getting along w people, or alternatively, standing up for yourself against oppression, being interested in cooking, cleaning and other “femme” skills, being queer, being a unique individual who does their own thing, Autism, etc all are (ok, debatably, obv) selected for traits that aided survival…
Isn’t it amazing how people like Eurocreep think Europeans are so superior to everyone else yet that superiority shouldn’t have to include actually giving a shit about other people? Also, Europeans are superior but somehow their societies will collapse if some Muslims move in? That doesn’t sound terribly superior to me.
This desire for the country to fail in such a huge way, causing harm to so many, just so they can (they think) have what they want (which no one else actually wants) is so incredibly selfish, that I have no actual words to describe this.
My apocalypse survival skills:
-proofreading
-teaching grammar and writing
-picking up small objects with my feet
You never know!!