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It’s fair to say that Donald Trump’s superfans on the far right are feeling pretty chuffed these days. On the proudly reactionary Return of Kings, one alt-righty writer is looking forward to what he predicts will be a utopian future for manly men and womanly women under Trump.
Weirdly, he’s not looking forward to eight or more years of peace and prosperity under the benevolent despotism of The Donald, but to the complete economic collapse he thinks will follow Trump’s swearing-in.
“I predict that we will experience a major crash, far worse than 2008, which will start sometime in mid to late 2017,” regular RoK contributor and self-proclaimed masculinity expert Jon Anthony writes. (Archive here.)
Oh, don’t worry; it won’t be Trump’s fault.
This will … of course, be blamed on Trump’s presidency, but the deplorables will know better: this has been due to the meddling of the central bankers.
Ah yes, the CENTRAL *wink wink* BANKERS *wink wink*.
But even though the collapse will be the fault of these meddling kids bankers, it’s actually going to be pretty great.
[T]ensions will reach an all time high as degenerates don’t receive their welfare checks, and as home owners default on their loans. Expect rioting in a large number of American cities. The suburbs will be relatively protected, but anywhere with a large lower class population will be decimated (think Black Lives Matter, but on a much larger scale).
You may be wondering why all this is supposed to be good. Give him a second; he’s getting to it.
This will likely force Trump to reluctantly call in Marshall Law, which in turn will create even higher tensions.
Ah, good old Marshall Law! I think he used to patrol the streets of Dodge City with Marshall Dillon.
Expect to see elements of the patriarchy re-emerge on a local level.
Ohhhh, I think I see where this is going.
The men in various neighborhoods and families will bond together to ration out food, water, and protection. The women will be tasked with homely duties, as it will be deemed too dangerous to walk the streets alone.
I think I might have heard this little fantasy before. More than once. More than twice.
Although this may sound terrible, it’s actually a good thing. It will start to bring back the patriarchy on a very fundamental, grass-roots level—in our own neighborhoods. This is the catalyst that we will need to bring about the return of a traditional society, living in accordance with nature’s biological laws.
THANKS, TRUMP!
After this, it’s only a hop, skip and a jump to a return to the gold standard, the “final death” of the mainstream media, and, oh yeah, “a new era for America, similar to the transition between the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire.”
And then, well, it’s pretty much the Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
As the patriarchy has now been brought back on a local level, Trump has eliminated political correctness with the help of others like Breitbart, Milo Yiannopoulos, and ROK, and the MSM has lost all credibility, expect local men to start taking back their school systems as well.
The economic crisis will have made it abundantly clear that we need to teach men survival skills, and this will fall into the hands of local men. Expect home schooling to become more and more common, until eventually, private schools start popping up everywhere taking advantage of this new anti-Leftist sentiment.
The same bonds that men formed with their neighbors and tribal members during the economic crisis will now be used to create communities where children play, learn, and grow together. This will start to form a sort of crude educational system on a very local level, which emphasizes the importance of men being able to protect their families, self-reliance, real world skills, and independent thought.
So what will this exciting new sort of crude educational system have to offer the youth of America? Anthony expects “[m]ale/female segregation for at least part of the school day,” the encouragement of “Femininity … in women, and primal masculinity … in men.”
And, oh yeah: “More recess, especially for boys.”
MORE RECESS FOR BOYS!!
IN YOUR FACE, STINKY GIRLS!!11
THANKS, TRUMP!!!
AND SOCIAL COLLAPSE!
And after all this, patriarchy will finally be triumphant ALL ACROSS AMERICA!
As patriarchy becomes more and more popular on a local level, it will begin to foster an entire culture based around the values that made America so successful in the past. …
I believe that a large economic crisis which forces men to band together and form civilized tribes will bring about a severe blow to the establishment. … In other words, the local patriarchy which this severe economic crisis in 2017 will have created, will begin a grass-roots transition into being a full blown cultural shift all throughout America.
IN YOUR FACE, LADIES AND NOT-VERY-MASCULINE MEN!!1!
That which happens out of natural biological tendencies is always far more powerful than an attempt to control them, due to the natural resistance effect. When you align your cause with what is natural (as the manosphere has), there is an inherent power within it due to its truthfulness, that cannot be stopped.
THANKS MOTHER NATURE OH WAIT I MEAN FATHER NATURE!!!11!
I guess we all better start stocking up on beans. And testosterone. Beans and testosterone, two great tastes that taste great together.
I don’t care one way or the other.
I dunno, the weird sexual overtures of Eurodude’s posts creep me out. I’m for kicking him off the island.
Anti-woman sentiments like the ones Euroguy espouses are not “polite.” Just look at that revolting mass that he spewed forth from his keyboard in this thread. So sick and creepy.
Nettle can be used to curdle milk for cheesemaking.
http://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/cheese/make-nettle-rennet-cheesemaking/
@LindsayIrene,
I would be totally up for Amazon tribal membership. I’m a so-so archer, but I come with my own horse (a little 15 hand Appaloosa)!
May I join your Amazon tribe? My actual survival skills are rudimentary at best, but I’m willing and able to learn anything. In the meantime, I can cook, sew, make candles (assuming a supply of some sort of wax – I think a couple of people have mentioned bees?), do all sorts of chores, and mind children while the rest of you more-awesome people are rebuilding society.
For some strange reason, I’m not in the mood to humor neo-Nazis.
Banhammer Euroguy, please.
@Euroguy
Snort.
if the apocalypse happens Ill probably just die from all my medical problems. If only my body was more alpha.
Karalora, beezy candles are suuuuper expensive in, uh, in bees. It’s hard to get together that much wax! We’d probably be better off using withies, so, reeds soaked in tallow. Tallow’s really useful, and there’s generally more of it around than beeswax (depending on your level of shepherding, etc). Withies are sorta smelly, and don’t produce as much light, but they do the trick. Still!
As for the neo-Nazi, he’s got the stink of Mick Dash on him. His story’s a little too made-in-4chan for my tastes.
Oh, I know how expensive beeswax is – all the more so in a society like our hypothetical Amazons. Maybe just for special occasions, then?
Depending upon how recent the apocalypse was, we could potentially scavenge canning paraffin from the abandoned hulks of grocery stores. Most people harvesting the shops would likely focus on ready-to-eat food and completely overlook the paraffin (and other canning supplies, which would be awesome to have anyway).
re : eurocreep. I vote ban. It was fun for a while when he was trying to persuade us that fascism and feminism go so well together, but then he dropped the act and the entertainment value that came with that. Now he’s just spreading his creepy boner notes and raging misogyny and racism all over every active thread.
Also this :
I can sorta see a pattern, yeah. Mick’s claims about gender studies (backed by saying that he’s in gender studies), Eurocreep’s claims about fascism and feminism (backed by saying that he’s both). The tendency to devolve into more and more egregious claims that contradict previous statements.
One thing’s for sure : Eurocreep sure as hell isn’t Spanish, or European for that matter, as evidenced by his weak-ass grasp of both european history and current events in Europe.
I fear I would not be too much use in an apocalypse. I have no skills. I can learn quickly and work well in groups though. I think I could learn to be a medical assistant to someone with training in that area because I’m not squeamish about blood and guts and I do know basic biology and everything. I’m also efficient so I could probably work in an administrative capacity at the WHTM post apocalyptic compound.
In the post-apocalyptic WHTM compound I could … plan the site layout? LOL Okay, okay, I am good at growing edible stuffs and have some other survival-level skills, but site planning is not exactly useless, especially at the outset and especially if converting an existing site to a new use. One doesn’t want the outhouse to drain into the well, after all, or the food stores to flood out.
Rebuilding society will necessarily involve lots of meetings. I could take minutes. I’m good at stating things clearly and succinctly. We’ll need to remember what we’ve agreed to do and how to do it.
I’m skilled at making tasty vegetarian meals involving lentils and kale and such.
I’m also a good listener. Lots of listening will be necessary in our post-apocalyptic society because we’ll all have PTSD (post-Trump stress disorder). The first step in dealing with trauma is to talk about it with a good listener. I can be a lay therapist.
Site layout. Planning is essential. Especially to ensure adequate year round water supply. Start with a watershed level ridge-to-valley plan. Maybe incorporate a sand dam – I love these things. A perfect way to store water, keep it clean and eliminate evaporation entirely.
For the growing, just use the usual swales and mulch layouts for a food forest / agroforestry set up and for whatever seasonal foods you can manage in the area. Permaculture can teach you all sorts of things about making gravity, water flow and animals like ducks and chooks do a whole lot of otherwise tedious, back-breaking work for you as well as – obvious after it’s pointed out – that maximising edges of things is really important. (A dam with lots of curvy indents and outward bumps, rather than a smooth round or rectangular shape, has heaps more places for growing water plants, reeds and fish nurseries than a “neat” geometrical straight edge.)
I’d also love the idea that if you get these things right they can last for hundreds or thousands of years.
Moroccan 2,000 Year Old Food Forest
Vietnamese 300 Year Old Food Forest
I’d be so useless after the apocalypse I’d probably just lay down and die or something.
I mean it’s becoming increasingly clear that I already can’t function in society, so I’m not likely to do any better if it gets that bad.
On the other hand, all cats are super friendly to me. House cats, stray cats, wild cats even. So maybe the very large ones as well ? I can see that being useful if your settlement is attacked by Apocalypse Tigers or something.
(Or to get rid of rodents, I guess, but who needs that ? Not like rats or mice could pose any trouble to anyone and their food stores, ha.)
Pretty much all I’ve got, too. Actually, I’ve got less, since I’m pretty squeamish about other peoples’ blood, and am prone to becoming a heaping pile of anxiety.
Think my only hope would be to attach to someone or some group more readily competent, and work on becoming emotionally dead.
Lessons for Fighting a Demagogue, From the People Who Survived a Plague
How the AIDS movement has given birth to the Trump resistance.
“I look forward to crushing fascism.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/how_the_aids_movement_has_given_birth_to_the_trump_resistance.html
‘I mean it’s becoming increasingly clear that I already can’t function in society, so I’m not likely to do any better if it gets that bad.’
It may be the other way around–who knows, the things that you’re finding challenging now may be absent, or completely different, in a post-descent society. Which will not be too long in coming.
@Sinkable John
My boyfriend has imposed a Pax Daddy-o on our cats. (That’s a peace that’s sort of like the Pax Romana but confined to our apartment and our cats.)
You could do that. It’s a super important job. As you know, we’ll need cats to protect our food and also to protect us from the plague.
@Ray of Rays
Consider training with Sinkable John, our cat whisperer.
Emotionally dead? Cats are too cute to allow you to do that.
@Kat
That’s a really good article.
@Handsome Jack
Yeah, it’s a real shot in the arm.
I’m with Kale in that I wouldn’t be able to live longer than a year without my meds. Until that time, I can do various odd jobs like basic carpentry/grunt work/etc, have a little bit of outdoor survival, gardening, kid minding, cooking over a fire, and other odds and ends. And I like to learn things. 🙂
@Kat
“Cat whisperer” is the coolest job description. I’ll take it !
I could learn gardening, too. If only because I rely on weed to keep me afloat and sleep, so unless someone else has the same kinda need I have, it wouldn’t feel right to have someone else grow that for me. Ehh, I’ll learn anything, really. Disclaimer though : I’m shaped like a stick figure. So probably no good at anything that involves carrying heavy loads. I’m also a decent bartender, if the rebuilding goes well enough that there’s ever a need for that. Granted, I got more work ethic than efficiency, but at least I can teach that work ethic. I learned from the very best. And I can cook a wicked mulled wine from even the worst boxed swill.
I am so glad that there’s so much resistance against Trump. Last month I was terrified that it would die down at some point and people would eventually give up on protesting. But now ? Turns out there’s movements popping up all over the place like firecrackers. There’s so much momentum, I actually felt hope just now when I read your link.