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It’s fair to say that Donald Trump’s superfans on the far right are feeling pretty chuffed these days. On the proudly reactionary Return of Kings, one alt-righty writer is looking forward to what he predicts will be a utopian future for manly men and womanly women under Trump.
Weirdly, he’s not looking forward to eight or more years of peace and prosperity under the benevolent despotism of The Donald, but to the complete economic collapse he thinks will follow Trump’s swearing-in.
“I predict that we will experience a major crash, far worse than 2008, which will start sometime in mid to late 2017,” regular RoK contributor and self-proclaimed masculinity expert Jon Anthony writes. (Archive here.)
Oh, don’t worry; it won’t be Trump’s fault.
This will … of course, be blamed on Trump’s presidency, but the deplorables will know better: this has been due to the meddling of the central bankers.
Ah yes, the CENTRAL *wink wink* BANKERS *wink wink*.
But even though the collapse will be the fault of these meddling kids bankers, it’s actually going to be pretty great.
[T]ensions will reach an all time high as degenerates don’t receive their welfare checks, and as home owners default on their loans. Expect rioting in a large number of American cities. The suburbs will be relatively protected, but anywhere with a large lower class population will be decimated (think Black Lives Matter, but on a much larger scale).
You may be wondering why all this is supposed to be good. Give him a second; he’s getting to it.
This will likely force Trump to reluctantly call in Marshall Law, which in turn will create even higher tensions.
Ah, good old Marshall Law! I think he used to patrol the streets of Dodge City with Marshall Dillon.
Expect to see elements of the patriarchy re-emerge on a local level.
Ohhhh, I think I see where this is going.
The men in various neighborhoods and families will bond together to ration out food, water, and protection. The women will be tasked with homely duties, as it will be deemed too dangerous to walk the streets alone.
I think I might have heard this little fantasy before. More than once. More than twice.
Although this may sound terrible, it’s actually a good thing. It will start to bring back the patriarchy on a very fundamental, grass-roots level—in our own neighborhoods. This is the catalyst that we will need to bring about the return of a traditional society, living in accordance with nature’s biological laws.
THANKS, TRUMP!
After this, it’s only a hop, skip and a jump to a return to the gold standard, the “final death” of the mainstream media, and, oh yeah, “a new era for America, similar to the transition between the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire.”
And then, well, it’s pretty much the Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
As the patriarchy has now been brought back on a local level, Trump has eliminated political correctness with the help of others like Breitbart, Milo Yiannopoulos, and ROK, and the MSM has lost all credibility, expect local men to start taking back their school systems as well.
The economic crisis will have made it abundantly clear that we need to teach men survival skills, and this will fall into the hands of local men. Expect home schooling to become more and more common, until eventually, private schools start popping up everywhere taking advantage of this new anti-Leftist sentiment.
The same bonds that men formed with their neighbors and tribal members during the economic crisis will now be used to create communities where children play, learn, and grow together. This will start to form a sort of crude educational system on a very local level, which emphasizes the importance of men being able to protect their families, self-reliance, real world skills, and independent thought.
So what will this exciting new sort of crude educational system have to offer the youth of America? Anthony expects “[m]ale/female segregation for at least part of the school day,” the encouragement of “Femininity … in women, and primal masculinity … in men.”
And, oh yeah: “More recess, especially for boys.”
MORE RECESS FOR BOYS!!
IN YOUR FACE, STINKY GIRLS!!11
THANKS, TRUMP!!!
AND SOCIAL COLLAPSE!
And after all this, patriarchy will finally be triumphant ALL ACROSS AMERICA!
As patriarchy becomes more and more popular on a local level, it will begin to foster an entire culture based around the values that made America so successful in the past. …
I believe that a large economic crisis which forces men to band together and form civilized tribes will bring about a severe blow to the establishment. … In other words, the local patriarchy which this severe economic crisis in 2017 will have created, will begin a grass-roots transition into being a full blown cultural shift all throughout America.
IN YOUR FACE, LADIES AND NOT-VERY-MASCULINE MEN!!1!
That which happens out of natural biological tendencies is always far more powerful than an attempt to control them, due to the natural resistance effect. When you align your cause with what is natural (as the manosphere has), there is an inherent power within it due to its truthfulness, that cannot be stopped.
THANKS MOTHER NATURE OH WAIT I MEAN FATHER NATURE!!!11!
I guess we all better start stocking up on beans. And testosterone. Beans and testosterone, two great tastes that taste great together.
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thisthisthisthisthis
This could very well be the biggest sadness in these manly men’s lives….
Re: the traditional Inuit diet.
Berries and mushrooms are in short supply for 11 months of the year: the traditional Inuit diet was mostly animal. The reason it worked is that a lot of meat and fish is eaten raw, and there is enough vitamin C in uncooked meat to prevent scurvy. All those poor explorers who died of scurvy were too “civilized” to eat raw meat.
But of course, not all meat is safe to eat raw. Walrus, like pork, often has trichinosis, for example. Fowl should generally be cooked.
(Of course now the Inuit diet is more affected by the policies of the grocery duopoly.)
All of which is to agree with those who point out that survival is a little more complicated than being a manly man.
@numerobis I hope you are enjoying your Iqaluit adventure. There’s nothing like being out under the northern lights and a full moon with your beloved, up at the top of the world.
Edit: I’m not sure about that liver thing. My understanding is it’s thrown away. There was a lot of trash talked about Inuit mid-century, how they could eat stuff only animals could eat – pretty much bullshit speculation. My dad was in that biz, dehumanizing Inuit by trying to establish they were actually built differently.
@miggy
Thanks for the laughs! I’m now off to find and photograph the puppy-eyed Succubi. My fellow monster hunters will be very impressed!
It’s well known that lifting allows men to convert testosterone into any necessary nutrient through a process known as Bro’-tosynthesis.
Horse riding is one thing I’m actually good at, and I used to be OK at archery as a kid, so count me in on any and all Amazon tribes. Plus everyone always tells me I look scary, which can only help chase away the resource-hoarding migtoes so we can get at their delicious seagulls.
@Sinkable
Yes, the beta male provider is the agent of patriarchy.
Many new mysoginits think that there is such a thing as the “alpha male provider”, they are totally wrong. There is no “alpha male provider” at all.
All providers are beta.
Donald Trump is beta, Brad Pitt is beta, David Beckam is beta, Bradley Cooper is beta (I feel sympathy and pity for this guy who seems pretty nice, he is going to have a rough time. I wish I am wrong)
@Kat
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@Weiwood and Christina
They THINK, they think a Mad Max scenario will be good for them. They think they can find a good submissive wifey in that scenario. Of course, they won´t.
The women they are going to meet are very tough women. Things are only to go worse for them.
The ideal scenario of the beta male provider is the 50s. It won´t happen.
And I am not gay. I am straight. I like tough girls and I am very submissive and obedient to them. 🙂
I can’t hunt, but I can spin, knit, and weave. I’m not a bad gardener and I used to be quite good on a horse, so count me in on the Amazon tribes, too.
One of my friends is an emergency doctor who’s been treating sick and injured people since she was a teen (as a volunteer EMT). I wonder who’s gonna have more people knocking on their door come the Apocalypse: her, or Miggs?
While we’re on the subject of survival things, what about in the case of a nuclear apocalypse? Where for instance would be furthest out of the blast radius of any big nuclear targets, or safest from a nuclear blast ? And what should I do following such an event?
I’m just genuinely curious from a hypothetical point of view
Yes to the adapted digestive systems. People assume every person has the same digestive system, but no. Part of the reason for the drunk Indian stereotype (besides racism) is that the Americas didn’t really have alcohol until the Europeans brought it and their bodies can’t process it as well. It’s also why Europeans are less lactose intolerant than Asians. They’ve been eating dairy longer. Japanese people digest seaweed better because it’s been a big part of their diet since forever. I would guess that Inuit people are better at digesting mostly fat and protein diets than the rest of us.
mary m
There’s something you could get started on right now if you’re in a town or suburb that’s already on http://www.ripenear.me/ . Finding a local wild apple/ mango/ blackberry supply or a patch of rosemary or oregano in a council or wasteland plot can be quite exciting. I haven’t actually used any of the public resources identified in my own area … yet. I’m more interested in the people selling organic eggs and unusual vegetables. (Once our two avocado trees start producing fruit, should be this year or next, I suspect we’ll be advertising regularly.)
What I can tell you is that once you’ve identified the tree-shrub-plant-patch that someone refers to at the nearby intersection of This Street and Thatway Avenue it gives you a whole new perspective on looking at your surroundings.
@ CPphazor
One of the joys about growing up in the 80s is that we got taught all about nuclear attack survival on TV.
miggy
Why would you unless you’d run out of anything better-easier to prepare and eat?
What _I_ would do would be to build a pigeon house, or maybe a dovecote if there was plenty of suitable food available for them. Take your pick. Though I might prefer something like this.
Build it with a sloping floor so that when manure drops it naturally, steadily moves to one side for collection and use in compost or liquid manures for vegetable and tree crops. Make access easy for regular collection of eggs as well as, occasionally, to collect birds to kill for eating. (And be sure to keep the feathers either for use in stuffing cushions or for enriching compost.)
You don’t have to feed pigeons apart from training purposes so they’re less trouble than chooks, ducks, geese. But you’d still want chooks and ducks at least for pest and weed control in your food gardens along with their manure to maintain fertility of soil that might be easily depleted if you’re not careful.
@Scildfreja: this is a bit offtopic, but since you mentioned that you can’t stand zombie apocalypse narratives because they’re a sanitised version of race/class warfare (not disagreeing, by the way), you might be interested in this series of posts: https://heterogenoustasks.wordpress.com/tag/a-year-without-zombies/
They are by an indie game writer and critic who, as an experiment, avoided all zombie-related media for a year, and his thoughts on zombie tropes and what they say about fiction and society. I really enjoyed it, fascinating stuff.
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as puns go, this one is bloody good really
@weirwoodtreehugger
You’ve kinda got this backwards… a natural tolerance to X encourages people to do X. You don’t generally build up that sort of natural tolerance in a population simply by spending a lot of time trying to do X.
There are genetic differences in ability to metabolise alcohol, but those don’t seem to be particularly prevalent in (American) Indians. There are genetic contributions towards the likelihood of developing alcoholism, but those markers don’t appear to be any more prevalent amongst Indians than Europeans.
Ultimately the issues with alcohol would seem to be cultural ones.
They’ve been eating dairy longer because of some handy mutations that mean that lactase production continues into adulthood. Mutation comes first, provides a non-trivial advantage to pastoralists and the like, then spreads and produces a tradition of eating mouldy cow squeezings. Not many people would start with those.
@mildlymagnificent
Dovecotes, while practical (I’ve never actually thought of them as a source of food; thanks for that!), are unfortunately off the table for the purposes of that particular discussion.
You see, the original comment thread that started this “manly men can survive on seagulls”… thing was a hypothetical situation where a migtow was stranded on a remote, uninhabited islet (Clipperton Island), with nothing around for miles but open sea, and nothing on the islet itself but thousands of seagulls.
Our intrepid migtow then proclaimed that he would subsist on nothing but the seagulls, which our equally-if-not-more intrepid commentariat immediately pointed out would more likely than not sicken him to the point of death quickly.
The migtow begged to disagree.
Oh, how he begged.
@Everyone
I come back after a few hours to check on my throwaway comment about seagulls, and I find…all of this.
I love you all. Truly.
Cheesemaking would be another good skill to know. Which requires knowing how to milk by hand, too.
Sadly, I think it’s because they’re apocalypse fetishists who think of “complete societal collapse” as the “natural” state, and of civilization at all as “unnatural” frippery twisting nature out of shape. And thus development is degeneracy, peace is genocide, etc
@Pie
Pardon my ignorance, but isn’t it a mix of both? Genetic mutations happen randomly in random people, but in a society where that mutation happens to be beneficial, the individual is more likely to thrive and therefore more likely to produce offspring, who have a higher likelihood of also having the beneficial gene (because they may inherit it) than the general population, a system which over time causes the gene to become prevalent in the society where it is useful.
For example, a baby born with the freak ability to tolerate dairy is born into a lactose-intolerant population which is farming cattle for meat. The baby is able to make use of a by-product of that which is useless to the rest of society, thereby giving it an edge over its fellows, to whom the by-product is useless. The baby therefore gets more food than its peers, is able to grow up bigger/stronger/more robust and is more likely to survive, say, famine because of this. If the trait is passed on to future offspring (which the adult is more likely to have because they are more likely to survive to become and adult, and more likely to be able to weather adverse circumstances one they get there), then the same will be true of the off-spring, until eventually the ability to consume milk and make use of that by-product is a standard throughout the population, and a baby born without that ability is more likely to die.
Conversely, a baby born with that same lactose-tolerant mutation in a a lactose-intolerant population that *doesn’t* farm cattle and therefore has no by-product for the baby to make use of, that baby and future offspring will have no edge over their peers and the trait is therefore likely to remain sporadic (and very likely completely unnoticed) throughout the population.
I can ride tolerably well, and I have access to horses – including draft horses. IF we can keep them in hay in the winters, which is a lot of work.
Am I going to have to get rid of a breast for this Amazonian club? Because I really would rather not.
I was a pistol target shooter in college so I can do that and maintain firearms – not as good with a bow, though.
I can crochet and can and cook. Hmm, I can sew.
I also have a witty sense of humor, if that helps me get a spot!
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@dreemr – isn’t that why oxen were used as draught animals so much, even after the invention of the yoke? Much easier to keep healthy over winter? You could feed them turnips and other fodder a horse wouldn’t thrive on.