Alt-Rightists are boycotting Star Wars Rogue One for its alleged “Anti-White Social Engineering”

@PI: I bow to your superior misandering.

I hear you about Skyrim. I sat down last night after everything, after the kids were asleep, the dishwasher was running, the toys were picked up and the cat pan scooped, thinking finally, finally I could get back to the Big MT like I wanted to all day.

And I had to restart my computer twice and “verify data integrity” like five times before NV would even start.

When it comes to media, I can’t empathize nearly as well with male characters. Just can’t. I guess my misandry runs deep :p

Ain’t it interesting how Roy Fokker says that Darth Vader was a “father figure” though? So telling! Darth is the biological father to Luke and Leia, but isn’t actually their father figure. Luke’s father figure is his uncle (and, at least in a literary sense, Obi Wan). Leia’s father figure is the King of Alderaan.

If Vader is the “father figure” of the movie, it means that father figures are supposed to be distant, threatening, manipulative, abusive, and demanding complete obedience. Vader only approaches being an actual father figure at the very end, salvaging some small scrap of love for his children as he realizes what a monster he’s become. He dies so that he can have a moment as a real father, and in doing so he ceases to be Darth Vader entirely.

The only moment Darth Vader is an actual ‘father figure’ is the moment when he rejects the evil of the Empire entirely! When he shows compassion and love! So, yeah, Alt-Right dood, when the guy is saying that the Empire is a white supremascist fascist state, and you reply by saying how unfair it is to paint Vader as evil, you’re sorta own-goaling there. (Not to mention, completely misunderstanding the movies)

I’m not actually a huge Star Wars fan at all, and even I know this stuff. Why don’t you, Mr they’re-stealing-our-media?

Oh, and Jim, you pretty clearly have no idea how much work goes into journalism or nonfiction writing. For every word posted there’s, like, ten written, and a hundred read. And 500mL of caffeine, usually. David is a research bulldozer for the volume of work he writes. One a day is incredible.

By reference, Stephen King has said that you can write a book in a few months if you put in a half hour of writing a day. He doesn’t mention the hours of research, experimentation, design and examination that goes on outside of that half hour.

Please the only reason studios make movies is to make money. The only reason these films have female leads is they’v realized women have money to spend to & don’t just want rom coms and as a bonus a lot of men (ie the secure ones) go & see them too so the studio makes more money.

Having spoken to someone who works way down the totem pole in the merchandising side of the film industry her theory is they market to women now a days as they’ve realized that women buy more merchandising & offer more merchandising opportunities.

Look at all the clothing likes at Torrid & Hot Topic tied to films, heck everything from make up lines to underwear is being made for women tied to geeky movies & computer games now a days.

Also for the most part women decide which toys get bought for the kids, so if you want to sell your themed lego sets & mini figs you better have a good range of characters now a days if you want to sell them.

As an anecdotal side note too, most of my male friends don’t pay to go see movies anyway they download the pirated versions. Why would movie studios make films for people that aren’t willing to pay for them.

@Wwaxwork — at least in theory the toy companies are making a wide range of toys to sell. I remember for the longest time, reports were there were few or no Rey toys to be had.

@ Scildfreja:

If Vader is the “father figure” of the movie, it means that father figures are supposed to be distant, threatening, manipulative, abusive, and demanding complete obedience.

Yup, that’s the igno-right’s philosophy. I’m saying this without a HINT of sarcasm, you hit the nail right on the head

I remember a Mammoth post a while back which linked to some manurespherians who were bragging about their respect for Saudi Arabian cultural norms towards women and girls, and bragging about how they browbeat their daughters into developing this way.

I dug the film reels out of the back room
And threw ’em on the silver screen
But there was something wrong in the movie theater
Wasn’t a soul to be seen

Stepped out of the booth and into the lobby
Darndest thing I ever saw
Buncha white men makin’ quite a din
Rantin’ ’bout some old and ornery law

Now, it may not have been the best place for sellin’ tickets
To films with such a sight to see
But the bystanders were munchin’ away on their popcorn
And that’s not complimentary

So the rest of the films of the day were marked out
And everyone gathered ’round
With their Cokes and their candy boxes, nachos and popcorn
To see the biggest dimwits in the town

Well, they kept on rantin’ and hootin’ and hollerin’
For the better part of that Sunday
And the passerby threw out a line every now and then
To rile them up, ’twas just a game to play

Eventually the dolts of the day got to their point
Somethin’ about the color of skin
Sayin’ somethin’ about the quality of a person
[spoken] And I tried to say something about it just being melanin.

Needless to say, they started goin’ after my jug’lar
Somethin’ about a cabal of “S-juice”
And I told the head [spoken] “Sweetheart, I get you’re trying to make a point”
[belted]”But I don’t quite get your methods of verbal abuse!”

I sure didn’t then, and I still don’t now, but I can say they each deserve
A golden star emblazoned with “you tried”
They went on and on with stranger terms that I still couldn’t translate
And my manager looked like he would rather die

Eventually, she called the cops to herd them out of the joint
But they said that “it’s all just in good fun”
So I offered to do the job myself, but she was quite a skeptic
And I just told her “don’t you worry, hun”

Within the next ten minutes I’d entered the crowd, and things were surely gettin’ loud
But airhorns tend to serve that purpose well
I danced between the rantin’ folks, and all the while I’m screamin’
Like a feral cat comin’ straight outta the bowels of Hell

Well, not two minutes later, the men decided that it wasn’t worth bein’ deafened
By this plump lil’ gal tearin’ them up, up, up, up
So they stormed out grumblin’ through the gates of the ol’ theater
Leavin’ nothing but the wrapper to two peanut butter cups

So I cleaned right up and tossed that in the bin, and I think it would be a sin
Not to mention that passerby were gapin’ at me
So I gave a wave, said “I’m okay, just took care of this in my own way”
“Sometimes you have to believe what ya see!”

Shorter Alt-Reich:

@Dan Kasteray, I’ll meet your Harriet Tubman and raise you a Clara Barton, who used to have to wring blood out of her heavy skirts to assist on Civil War battlefields.

Women who have deliberately stayed out of danger have generally done so on order to care for others. And of course, women who have deliberately tried to go into dangerous situations in order to help, have often been prevented from doing so. Ms. Tubman and Ms. Barton, among many others, defied convention and the law.

Troubelle, you just KEEP GOING!!!

I’m “social media inept”, so I can’t do it, but somebody needs to post Troubelle’s stuff on the ‘net.

What would be the social media equivalent of “spray painting on a wall” for all to see??? We need our OWN “Simon Jester”!!!!

Seriously, (maybe I’ve just read too much Sci-Fi…) at some point, Social Conscience is going to go viral and take back the Internet from the igno-right and from the Alternate Reality Industry…. Maybe we start here???

@Weird Eddie

I’m half-considering learning how to play a banjo, guitar, mandolin, fiddle, or string base, finding other people to cover the other bases, and forming a left-leaning bluegrass band. If not, well….I can solo, I suppose. (Coincidentally, the president of my university plays banjo really well….)

I’m not sure what the exact equivalent of an online graffiti wall would be. But….there are real walls. And there’s spray paint, and posters and improvised glue.

@NicolaLuna:

What is virtue signalling? Do I want to know?

As I understand it, it’s not that the filmmakers honestly want to put Felicity Jones in the lead of Rogue One, for example, but they do it anyway so they get praise and ups and possibly women will sleep with them.

I’d always thought it was supposed to be a samurai helmet:

http://casiberia.com/img/prod/ah2314_2.jpg

@NicolaLuna, Falconer’s got it, but the word’s got some history to it at this point. “Virtue Signalling” is a real thing, discussed in political science and social psychology. It’s when people advocate good things in order to gain social standing, not to actually do good things – the foundation example is a person who advocates recycling, but isn’t actually doing any recycling themselves. It’s a real phenomenon that can crop up all over the place.

MRA’s latched onto the concept, likely because it was tied it to “soccer moms” and “helicopter parenting” and “keepin’ up with the Joneses”. They started using it a couple of years ago as a synonym for “white knight,” probably because they thought it made them sound smarter. They figure that Social Justice Warriors aren’t actually interested in social justice at all, that we just want to feel and be perceived as superior for caring about something that we don’t actually care about.

So yeah, it’s just the old standard “you’re just doing it for attention, you don’t actually care about anyone but yourself” that was the original definition of SJW. (I stand by my belief that “SJW” now means “normal moderate beliefs”)

H. Bomberguy did a great video on it a few months ago, it’s pretty fun: