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What do feminists want? One ludicrous misogynist has an explanation

Feminism, apparently
Feminism, apparently

Feminists! If you’ve been wondering why you’re a feminist and what you believe, I’ve got some great news for you. A dude in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit has the answer, and will be happy to explain you to you. It involves grunting.

534543543543 3 points 23 hours ago They want to come into a male space, grunt, point to their vagina, and have the entire conversation be about them and include them. They somehow think this is different than every other woman. It's becoming increasingly apparent that women did not evolve critical thinking or abstraction, likely due to the incredible biological tole of having to bring a child to bear (not that this has any relevance to the life of a feminist). AWALT (to the feminists in this thread, who do not deserve individual recognition): Tits or get the fuck out. The quota on bloody cum rags is full, and we don't give a shit about what you're lying about now. When all you do is lie, we learn to stop taking you seriously. Go get dicked on tinder and pretend your life has meaning. No one gives a shit what a woman thinks. Women are inferior to men and you feminists proved that to everyone. Thank you. No. Thank you.

No, thank you!

EDITED TO ADD: There’s PROOF of this whole grunting thing. I found a super-seekrit training video in which a woman teaches other women to grunt!

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Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
8 years ago

@Handsome Jack

Sorry if I’m seeming a bit one-track here–the concept is just too good not to improve upon. I’ll need to learn how to bleedin’ draw Claptrap, though.

-realizes accidental relevance two seconds later-

In other news, I dropped three bucks on nine packs of roast beef ramen. It’s the best.

Miggy the Towman
Miggy the Towman
8 years ago

@Scildfreja

No, there is currently no evidence to my knowledge that make-work programs are actually good for the economy. When you create these jobs, what you do is you take money away from others in the form of taxes in order to create these jobs. The money that you take from people in order to create these jobs is money that could have been spent actually stimulating the economy through purchases made on goods and services in the private sector. Ever read Hazlitt?

People complain about Amity Shales’ work because she “arbitrarily” leaves out govt. jobs in her work, but people need to explain why it is that govt. jobs should actually count as real jobs in the economy.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

Sorry if I’m seeming a bit one-track here–the concept is just too good not to improve upon. I’ll need to learn how to bleedin’ draw Claptrap, though.

He’s pretty much just a tapered cube but I say there’s no harm learning to draw something by tracing it first. Find a few pictures and trace over him a few times and you’ll get the hang of it.

(Also, I don’t mind you being one-tracked. I’m one-tracked too a lot. I wanna do a stupid comic or a gif of Bill playing the piano and then Claptrap coming in with the dubstep. It would be great, if I knew how to draw.)

In other news, I dropped three bucks on nine packs of roast beef ramen. It’s the best.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mctyxwHfGI1rghkxeo5_250.gif

(Now I want ramen.)

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Alright Miggy. You have not had the courage to respond to us in a form that clearly responds to things that people are actually saying, or contains things that can be connected to reality. It’s all emotion and empty characterization. I’m a basic aggressive impulsive male like yourself and I find the way you choose to express it very unimpressive.

This is an experimental general approach for presenting the structure of the feeling and content of text. I need some data so I guess you are worth an experimental dissection. Feel free to ask me any questions. I am making arguments about you after all.

Here is your original comment with each conceptual chunk isolated and transformed to what it is absent feeling. Feelings are ok, but they must be connected to something solid and approachable. This is your reputation. You should care about this shit.Each item in brackets is a thing that should be unpacked by you into something else. They are arguments wrapped in feelings that have no reason or logic. Insults and characterizations absent characteristics as opinion.

It’s because [demonic crocodile shepherds] like you can’t just keep it to yourselves, you have to [hatch plots in snake dens] like WHTM to [take it to the streets] so the rest of us have to hear you [moan about your engorged jungle gutters].

New version. Things in bold are replacements absent combinations of disgust and anger that is secondary to fear.

It’s because bad people like you can’t stop communicating, you have to plan to do something in a place like WHTM to go do things so the rest of us have to hear you talk about biological, medical, and cultural things related to menstruation.

This was in response to ComeOnIrene saying,

Remember that time a MGTOW came barging into a WHTM thread on an article about menstruation, and threw a tantrum because we were talking about menstruation? But it’s feminists who make it all about them?

You literally answered “someone entered out personal space and felt strongly about discussion of menstruation” with “I see people I assume are female planning to do things about menstruation”. So fucking what? Why the fuck should I care? Keep in mind that I like tearing apart communications like yours. Just as much as you appear to like to tell people with vaginas to shut up and stop doing things related to their vaginas. None of us has an obligation to shut up because you say so.

One moment, people like you are talking about the [‘liberatory’ power of uncontrolled vaginal bleeding], the next moment you’re [demanding that we trash da Vinci and replace him with Rorschach blood splatters so frenetic and degenerate in design that even Pollock would look tasteful by comparison].

One moment, people like you are talking about good things related to menstruation, the next moment you’re taking something away from me.

Not so impressive looking now are you? What the fuck are they taking away from you that I should care about? Remember, your response determines not only how I respond to people like you on the internet. It determines how I respond to you in meat space public. Just how good do you really look when I make demands for reasonable information? You look like shit.

[Life doesn’t consist entirely of the depraved, monthly machinations of your flooded floozy tunnels] and I find it almost risible that [feminist-controlled academia] and [symbols of white-male fiefdom like Beyonce] have convinced you otherwise.

Other things exist besides parts of society connected menstruation and I find it almost risible that academics interested in sex, gender and equality , and a feminist black person with a vagina have convinced you otherwise.

I have this powerful urge to use words related to mental diagnoses and breaks with reality. But people worried about ablism are right, I have an obligation to assume you are quite sane and normal (I hope you see the benefit). So, how on earth do feminist people in academia and a black person with a vagina who is feminist convince anyone that there is nothing in reality but menstruation? Let alone convince us.

You have no right to [clog the drains of public discourse] with your incessant [buzzing about crimson panties and Aunt Flo] or whatever else you crapular nub biters have [pounding at the front doors of your uneventful minds].

This is your first reference to the legal realms. So far you do nothing but use insults and tell people to stop talking about things, without showing why anyone should want them to stop beyond the fact that you are angry and disgusted in combination. This is your symbol that you appeal to, rights.

You have no right to public display of menstruation related communication or whatever else you people are thinking of doing.

Rights? Are you fucking kidding me? They so clearly have the right to be doing what they are doing that all you can have is ridiculous claims connected to nothing but anger and disgust. This is basic speech of one human to another among other humans. All you have is the hope that you are surrounded by enough other people with literally no good reason to be disgusted and angered by public discussion of menstruation. I bet you want to de facto limit the freedom of others to say lots of other things that do nothing to you but make you feel something you don’t like.

Sad little sputtering human, your days of being able to control people you have no right to control are numbered.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

but people need to explain why it is that govt. jobs should actually count as real jobs in the economy.

They do? Since you’re the one who’s asserting that they aren’t real, why don’t you prove they aren’t?

Go on. Explain why performing a job in exchange for money and then spending that money in the economy is not a real job in the economy?

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
8 years ago

Um, I’m pretty sure Brony meant to reply to Miggy, not the totally wonderful and amazing Mish!

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Welcome MrsObedMarsh!

I’m sure Miggy boy will answer your question in a reasonable and coherent fashion any moment!

LindsayIrene
8 years ago

@sunnysombrera

radiologist advised against doing an intrusive scan since I was a virgin

I wonder if it would have been anything like a vaginal ultrasound? I had one a few months ago, and they don’t just put the probe in, they move it around in all directions. At one point I had to push down on part of my abdomen so they could get a good look at my left ovary. I am nowhere close to being a virgin and it was still uncomfortable.

@ miggs

the money that you take from people in order to create these jobs is money that could have been spent actually stimulating the economy

Um, so what do you think the people with the tax-created jobs do with their paychecks? Burn them? Put them in their hats and call it macaroni? They spend that money. You want to know one reason why the food stamps program exists? That reason would be that the program is good for the food production part of the economy.

Rich people tend to dump their money in off-shore banks, where it does nothing for the economy. Money is like manure. You have to spread it around for it to do any good.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Moving on to Miggy’s second comment,

It’s amazing that so [many of you seem to think] that [an otherwise airtight argument] is somehow [undermined by the simple fact that it contains a misspelled word], as though correct thinking proceeds from correct spelling.

It’s amazing that people I won’t point out think that an argument I wont link, quote and explain is somehow worth avoiding, as though correct thinking proceeds from correct spelling.

Literal community name-calling.

You go on now, [prove everything he said in his post] with your [stupid mind games], your [caterwauling nymph snark], your [impudent desire to make every medium of communication] resemble [the ivory tower academies] you and your kind [coalesce around], with your [“citations needed!!!”] like this man is [writing a term paper for you paper-shuffling theory-congested scribblers.]

You go on now, do things I don’t specify with your social manipulation I won’t cite and explain, your visual non-literal noises, your prevention of my communication resembles educational institutions you and your kind like to be at, with your requests for the parts of reality connected to my unsupported insulting characterizations like this man is required to do something I will say is unreasonable without saying why.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Fucking typos! I got hung up on the M’s…

I’m sorry Mish! David can you correct? That should be Miggy and not Mish in my text-wall. I would be very grateful.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
8 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger:

Thank you! I also look forward to his response.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Crap, and the comment after that (Mish to Miggy replacement). I am prone to repetitive typos.

Thanks for pointing that out Belladonna “Toxic Hag”.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
8 years ago

I also look forward to Migg’s explanation of how humans can live on sunlight alone and how food is just a make-work project for farmers, butchers, grocers, truckers, cooks, waiters, etc. to cater to greedy hedonist eaters.

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
8 years ago

@Brony
Nah, I’m sure everyone, and probably even Miggy, had it figured out, anyway. And I enjoyed your deconstruction. 😉

Miggy won’t get this, though:

It’s amazing that people I won’t point out think that an argument I wont link, quote and explain is somehow worth avoiding, as though correct thinking proceeds from correct spelling.

Dumb asses never understand that we revert to mocking their typos mostly only when their supposedly “correct” thinking is so completely idiotic that it doesn’t deserve a response.

Silver Miggs: Just hear those MGTOW singling, no comingling, too
Silver Miggs: Just hear those MGTOW singling, no comingling, too
8 years ago

@ComeOnIrene and WWTH

Government institutions have a vested interest in defending their existence by any means necessary, even when it is demonstrably the case that some of them are inefficient or do more harm than good. The people who work at these institutions are concerned with maximizing their profit and minimizing the work they need to do to obtain this profit; they will often tax and tax and tax some more in order to line their pockets, while continuing to produce inefficient goods and services (govt. run schools, for example, receive tons of money, but cannot seem to use it responsibly and our children are often poorly-educated as a result – the high-school I attended as a kid has tons of shitty books, sub-par teachers, and stupid kids, but continues to blow every dime on the football team or the fine-arts center).

Because there is no competition when it comes to govt. provided services, like there is for services provided in the private sector, there’s no impetus for government run institutions to provide quality services, and there’s no impersonal market mechanism which can adequately determine what their pay should be, hence why they continue to demand pay raises in the form of higher taxes, but yet cannot provide services that are commensurate with the amount of money that they receive. Govt. institutions will always demand more for less, and the lack of competition makes it possible – survival of the institution and the money it provides for its workers is more important than the actual ability of the institution to perform its duties.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Miggy’s third comment. I’m going to try to come up with a system for describing the kinds of social manipulations that are present in each bracketed part in future comments. I mention it in case anyone want’s to try it themselves. I consider troll slaying a community project.

You’re always asking for things for yourselves, but trying to prevent men from [having anything exclusive]. You [all but arm yourselves] and [take on the YMCA with battering-rams] in order to [gain entry into a male establishment], but you expect [women-only scholarships, grants], and [trophies] in the form of affirmative action policies.

You’re always asking for things for yourselves, but trying to prevent men from preventing women from participating in something. You do things to the YMCA that I respond to by mentioning weapons even though there are no weapons involved, and I mention battering rams attacking the YMCA in order to show that I feel like physically attacking/preventing women from using the YMCA would be an equivalent response, but you expect social and institutional support in dealing with sexism and misogyny, and other things I think you don’t deserve in the form of affirmative action policies.

[Everything is about your pussies with you all], it’s as though the [absence of anything there] makes you [want to fill up your innate sense of emptiness] by [claiming everything you come across as your own], even if [you had nothing to do with its existence.]

The vagina content of your public communications is excessive. The opposite of penis makes you want to respond to not-penis related feelings by including not-penises in places I might encounter them, even if people with not-penises did not build it.

[You think nothing exists if you can’t see it, smell it, or experience it in some way]; when [you exit a room, the containments of that room may as well be nonexistent to you until you reenter it]. You [think everything is just an extension of your body or mind in some way], so naturally you think that [the merely possessing vaginas suffices to get you everything you want in life, from food, to housing, to marriage and children], it all comes back fool-[circle to your pussy-induced feelings of incompleteness].

You think some things are not real; I’m pretending you forget what is in rooms instead of describing what people are doing to the YMCA. You think things that are related to bodies and brains are relevant, so naturally you think that not-penis suffices to get you discussion of preventing things related to not-penis, it all comes back fool-having not-penis makes you feel things about having a not-penis and society.

Phryne: Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite (also cats)
Phryne: Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite (also cats)
8 years ago

@sunnysombrera, when I’ve had cervical smears, it felt like pressure. Also, seconding the suggestion of a trusted friend, so that you have something else to focus on. Failing that, a book or headphones could help, too.

“caterwauling nymph snark” is awesome, though obviously not in the way Miggy intends it. I must find a way to use it. Perhaps a band name?

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy

In recognition (I won’t say honour) of Miggy’s fondness for naming himself after Christmas carols, let’s rewrite some to make fun of misogynists!

Joy to the world! the Mig-tau’s* come.
Let Earth receive her king!
Let ev’ry heart prepare him room,
And heav’n and nature sing,
And heav’n and nature sing,
And heav’n, and heav’n, and nature sing.

(*I spelled MGTOW phonetically. That verse didn’t require much alteration, because that’s really how they think of themselves.)

Rejoice, rejoice! when Roosh V reigns
And feminists submit!!
For all shall blow him, none complain
Nor put up with his shit,
Nor put up with his shit,
Nor put, nor put up with his shit.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I find it bizarre that Miggs is using the YMCA as his example of evil marauding feeemaales. Women have been using the YMCA for a long time. I misandered by swimming at my local YMCA way back in the 80s. Men are also allowed at the YWCA so it’s not even a double standard. Wouldn’t it be more current to claim that gaming or atheism are supposed to be male safe spaces?

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy

Those “nor”s should be “and”s. I had it right the first time.

LindsayIrene
8 years ago

@ Laugher at Bigots

Joy to the world, the Mi-iGTOWs
Fiiiiinally weeeeent their own waaaaay!

(A girl can dream.)

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
8 years ago

@wwth

Women have been using the YMCA for a long time. I misandered by swimming at my local YMCA way back in the 80s. Men are also allowed at the YWCA so it’s not even a double standard. Wouldn’t it be more current to claim that gaming or atheism are supposed to be male safe spaces?

I don’t know. I’ve been misandering by gaming since the 70s, myself. And in the 90s, when I told gamer friends that I appreciated X-Com for giving me women soldiers and wished Doom had an option for playing as a woman, no one’s head exploded or anything!

I suspect MGTOWs of revisionist history where women didn’t used to be in spaces where they actually have been since well before most Miggies were born. Shocking, I know.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

When you create these jobs, what you do is you take money away from others in the form of taxes in order to create these jobs. The money that you take from people in order to create these jobs is money that could have been spent actually stimulating the economy through purchases made on goods and services in the private sector.

That’s literally how all jobs work. The money that Walmart spends on labor is money that could have gone straight into the Walton family’s pockets, to be spent on whatever you think the Waltons buy. The money that Goldman Sachs spends on labor is money that could have gone into the pockets of the corp’s shareholders to purchase whatever.

Your argument is so breathtakingly stupid that it’s clear you have no useful opinions on this topic.

I Saw Three Men Go Their Own Way
I Saw Three Men Go Their Own Way
8 years ago

@PoM

That’s literally how all jobs work.

No, it isn’t. In the private sector, you have a choice of where you spend your money. When it comes to the public sector, the money is pretty much forcibly-extracted from you in the form of taxation, regardless of whether or not you approve of the way that your money is being handled. The private sector can create jobs that earn their existence through providing consumers with actual goods and services that they want, aka voting with your wallet. There’s no competition when it comes to public sector jobs and services, and you’re forced to pay for them whether you want to or not – you can’t take your business elsewhere, either, since paying for these services is non-negotiable. The lack of competition for goods and services provided by the public sector results in high-prices for services which might be subpar, seeing as people who get shitty services can’t just take their business elsewhere.

“Your argument is so breathtakingly stupid that it’s clear you have no useful opinions on this topic.”

Holding your nose up at people with ideas you don’t understand is such a default position for you, I’d bet you could tell Thales a thing or two about falling into holes.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Belladonna,

Yeah, we all know women have always gamed but the manosphere seems to think it’s a new thing women just discovered 5 years ago.