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What do feminists want? One ludicrous misogynist has an explanation

Feminism, apparently
Feminism, apparently

Feminists! If you’ve been wondering why you’re a feminist and what you believe, I’ve got some great news for you. A dude in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit has the answer, and will be happy to explain you to you. It involves grunting.

534543543543 3 points 23 hours ago They want to come into a male space, grunt, point to their vagina, and have the entire conversation be about them and include them. They somehow think this is different than every other woman. It's becoming increasingly apparent that women did not evolve critical thinking or abstraction, likely due to the incredible biological tole of having to bring a child to bear (not that this has any relevance to the life of a feminist). AWALT (to the feminists in this thread, who do not deserve individual recognition): Tits or get the fuck out. The quota on bloody cum rags is full, and we don't give a shit about what you're lying about now. When all you do is lie, we learn to stop taking you seriously. Go get dicked on tinder and pretend your life has meaning. No one gives a shit what a woman thinks. Women are inferior to men and you feminists proved that to everyone. Thank you. No. Thank you.

No, thank you!

EDITED TO ADD: There’s PROOF of this whole grunting thing. I found a super-seekrit training video in which a woman teaches other women to grunt!

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Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
4 years ago

@ Handsome Jack, my google said Montana does local tax too. That’s all I know.

@ Dalilama,
When I picture Nosferatu / Dracula / Lestat in the New World, I like to think they would adapt to local pest and vermin availability. Rats, roaches; or seagulls, possums, geckoes, mynah birds, ibises, feral ex pets. They are ancient bloodsucking douches, but not necessarily food snobs.

TreePerson
TreePerson
4 years ago

As a penis having person I fully support uterus having people having access to tax free (or even -gasp- socialized) menstrual hygiene products.

Also taking your baby to be approved/blessed by a bear sounds like a druid or pagan thing.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

I do believe that the always charming Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree (love the nym — so seasonal! so festive!) gets sexually aroused by the idea of menstrual blood.

And that’s why he’s here.

A therapist clued me in to this phenomenon. And a quick Google search reveals something called “blood hounds.” (Okay, that therapist didn’t mention that these guys had a name.)

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Weird Eddie
I’m so sorry to hear that you and your son are both encountering issues at work.

We’re going to all need to stay strong in the coming months because Trump.

Hang in there.

I hope that a solution to these work difficulties reveals itself.

Valkyrine
Valkyrine
4 years ago

Now that we are on the menstrual cycle here, does anyone happen to know that gif where there’s a clip from some horror game and the player sees “Help me” written on the wall in blood and a trail of it leading to a bathroom, so once you start moving again, the subtitles say “Hold up, girl! I’m gonna get you a tampon” or something to that effect…?

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
4 years ago

Not quite on the subject of menstruation but on lady parts. Apologies if it’s a bit TMI. Since there are many older wiser women here I was wondering if you could help me. I got a flyer through the door from the NHS telling me I should be getting a cervical smear soon. Gulp. I’ve never had one before. Also never had sex or used a sex toy or even worn a tampon – literally nada has been in my love tunnel before. Add that to the fact that I’m really very personal and don’t like to be touched in any way except for the occasional hug and I’m kind of freaking out over here to the point of tears in my eyes. Maybe I’m overreacting, maybe I’m not.

I know I have to get it done, especially since the NHS is set to go into meltdown sometime soon so I better do it before the storm hits the health care system. But I really really really would avoid this forever if I could.

Please do tell me what to expect, what to ask for to make it easier and how to get through it with minimal panic. Thanks.

jefrir
jefrir
4 years ago

Sunnysombrera, if you’ve never had sex you probably don’t need a smear test – your level of risk is much lower. However, if you do want to get it done for peace of mind, there are some details about what to expect here
It’s a bit uncomfortable, but shouldn’t be any worse than that. It’s probably worth letting the nurse know that you’ve not been penetrated before – they have different size speculums (the tool they put inside you) and a smaller one may be more appropriate. There isn’t much touching – the nurse will ask you to take off your trousers and underwear and lie on a bed with your knees up, will insert the speculum and take a quick swab. It takes a few minutes, and staff doing it are well used to people being nervous or embarrassed.

Sea Wolf
Sea Wolf
4 years ago

Wow. The bitterness and projection in the OP is breathtaking, and not in a good way.

Also, it never ceases to amaze me how these MGTOW guys get so riled-up, yet women are the “emotional” ones. I’m reminded of a blog post (to any trolls, I know it isn’t peer-reviewed, but I think the point is valuable), which says that when men are frustrated or angry, whatever comes out of their mouths is treated as logic.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

Personally, I find it hilarious that people think fetuses ought to be given proper burials.

It’s not “hilarious”, Miggy. It’s another way to restrict access to medical procedures for people who have uteruses. Are you at all aware of how expensive funerals are? And that’s on top of some women needing to travel really far just to get to a clinic because they keep passing unnecessary regulations to force those clinics to shut down. Plus the mandatory waiting period in Texas means they already have to get funds for a hotel and to take time off work on top of the travel cost and cost of the procedure. That was already difficult to manage but you add in a funeral, which I just checked the average in Texas is around $10,000. That’s way more than most people can afford, and certainly less than most people can raise before hitting 12 weeks to get the safest abortion procedure available. That’s, of course, assuming it’s an unwanted pregnancy. For sudden complications during a wanted pregnancy that create the need for an immediate abortion, the family is now stuck with a lot of extra expense on top of their mourning.

@sunnysombrera
TMI right back at you: I hate being touched for the most part (my husband is the exception). I don’t even like hugs from most people. That said, I don’t really mind the regular cervix screenings and even if you’re not sexually active you can have abnormal cell growth, so it’s good to get it done.

You should let the doctor know it’s your first time. They will tell you everything they are about to do before they do it. They have a device called a speculum that they put some lubricant on and then insert. My doctor always warms it up a little first under the tap. It can sometimes pinch, and if that happens just let them know and they’ll adjust it. It’s not terribly comfortable but it doesn’t hurt. They’ll scrape some cells off the cervix. I have a very sensitive cervix, so I feel a little bit of pain when they do that and I spot a little, but I understand for most people there’s no pain or blood for that part.

They’ll probably check your labia for lumps as well. This is similar to a breast exam, if you’ve had those – they just walk their fingers across the tissue and apply gentle pressure. They tell you what they’re about to do before they do it.

The other exam they’ll probably do is to feel your ovaries. This is done by applying a lot of pressure to your abdomen and feeling around. It’s uncomfortable as well but not painful.

Hope that helps.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@sunnysombrera

I don’t have a vagina or cervix so obviously I don’t have any first hand experience of this procedure. I just wanted to say that women in my vicinity have had some spotting after a cervical smear. From what I understand that’s not entirely unusual and not dangerous. I was gonna say the thing about different size speculums, but others have said it already.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
4 years ago

@Handsome Jack

Apologies. Looks like that’s another thing I’ll be doing once I’m dragged back to one of two houses. (Also playing BL2 for my younger sister.)

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

I was going for “Migging Around The Xmas Tree” but David doesn’t even fucking read my posts anymore, he just deletes my stuff the second he sees my name.

“Ever since I’ve been banned, it’s like I can’t even post around here anymore. GOD.”

You know, Miggz, I would expect a crusader for liberty like yourself would have more respect for Dave’s private property (this blog) and his freedom to restrict access to it. Your inconsistency is shocking. Just shocking.

Bina
4 years ago

@Miggy the Moron:

Let me just tell all of you something; my tax dollars are NOT going to cover your tampons. It’s not happening, not here. Maybe you can pull that shit in Sweden or Iceland, but in a country that recognizes the masculines virtues of individualism, and understands that private property is the foundation of liberty?

You really don’t understand the whole issue of tampon taxes at all, do you? For that matter, you also don’t understand a whole lot of OTHER basic economic facts. Here, lemme break it down for you:

1. Nobody is asking you, personally, to pay for their tampons with your own taxes. They’re actually asking that sales taxes be removed from tampons (and pads) because they’re not a luxury item, they’re a necessity. One that every cis-woman (and quite a few trans-men) need, on average, for one week out of every month if they’re not going to bleed all over their clothes. And, shockingly, this process doesn’t even stop when someone becomes homeless. That’s right, impoverished people get periods, and can’t control when they get them, either! They have to be damn near starving, or deeply stressed and traumatized for their period to actually STOP. Meaning, again: Tampons are not a luxury, but a necessity. Even if you’re doing without a roof over your head, you will still need something to mop up that monthly flow.

And no, holding your legs together won’t stop it. All that does is (barely) conceal the stains on one’s clothes.

And yes, socialism would be a good idea. From each according to their means, to each according to their need. It’s a helluva lot more balanced than anything capitalism and its fairy tales of Invisible Hands could ever come up with!

2. Spare us the “masculine virtues” crap. You bozos faint at the mere mention of blood (which is only one component of menstrual fluid; there are others, including shed endometrial tissue). The tampon tax is nothing but a taboo imposed upon a normal life process by squeamish ruling-class cis-men who don’t understand even the most basic menstrual biology. Or to put it another way: Your masculine ignorance is not a virtue.

3. Private property isn’t the foundation of liberty, but of slavery. Remember all those Africans who got dragged across the Atlantic ocean in chains? They were private property, too. And women? Yeah. By using their menstruation (and taxes on it) to control them, you’re rendering women of all colors slaves. Idiot hypocrite libertarians, get a clue. Your “liberty” is bought and paid for by the enslavement of at least half the human race…MORE than half, if you factor in non-white people. You’re a bunch of spoiled whiny brats, and you really don’t like having reality intrude on your little beer party, but it’s going to keep doing so as long as there are people getting periods!

4. Why all the hate for Sweden and Iceland? They’re populated by the descendants of actual Vikings, who are a lot more complex than you knuckle-draggers think. They are are cool countries. Cooler by far than yours, and I’m not talking about the physical climate, either. They managed to abolish slavery without a civil war, and no Jim Crow or KKK in the wake of it, either. (It kind of helps that their slaves were white foreigners, not African.) And above all, they did it without any cockamamie flibbertigibbertarian ideology. Women are a lot freer there than they are where YOU live. You jealous? Or are you just mad because none of those lovely, free, fair-complected Viking-descended women want to hop in the sack with YOU? So you have to punish them by pretending that their periods are somehow a luxury that they can control? Yeah, that’s it, innit. As usual, it boils down to you idiots being utterly repulsive to women, so you double down on your stoopidz in an effort to “punish” them.

You really are one helluva sad sack, Miggy. See ya, wouldn’t wanna BE ya!

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

pahaahaahaahaa

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oh, wow. Oh, wow. Welcome back!

“I’m not payin a tax because you ladies can’t hold it!”

aahaahaahaahaa

ahaha, oh gosh, oh wow. Whew! I needed that. Thank you!

I don’t even have to call you a misogynist or a sexist or whatever on this one! By the numbers:

1) Combine a horrible lack of understanding of a woman’s biology with an internal assertion of correctness and cognitive superiority (Bake 329 years). The results are magical.

2a) Conflate “Women talk about their biology in a place” with “Women won’t ever stop talking about their grody women things everywhere”.

2b) The reason you think “females everywhere always talkin bout their sin caves” is because issues that affect women are ignored if we don’t speak up. Combine this with 2a, in that men perceive women to be waaaay more talkative and argumentative then they actually are. (I have the scientific study on this one if you want it)

3) The whole “free bleeding” thing was a 4chan attempt to mock feminists. That’s why we assumed you voted for Trump, you’ve already proven yourself to be a sucker.

4) My favourite is the “I’m not paying for your gross blood sponges you vampires!”. It’s ridiculous, self-contradictory and wrong in so many wonderful ways.

4a) No one wants to tax you in order to pay for monthly subsidized hygiene products for all the gross slimy ladies. That’s not a thing.

4b) The goal is to remove the tax from hygiene products. You know, getting rid of a tax! Small government! Hands off our money! Rabble-rabble-conservative-values! Why aren’t you in favour of that?

4c) More an aside, this one – turns out that “make work programs” are what pulled North America out of the Great Depression! And have a proven track record of actually working! And we’ve got rigorous science to prove it! In the same way that we can show that the trickle-down Reganomics methods are complete bullshit!

Ah, Miggs. Never change.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

@sunnysombrera

Others have covered most of the basics, but I wanted to mention that only a poor practitioner will send you immediately to the exam room and ask you to take off your clothes. Best (and most common) practice is to sit you down in an office first to have a discussion with you about your medical and sexual history, and your expectations for future children. This is your opportunity to mention that this is your first Pap smear and that you’ve never had anything in there before. You should also tell the practitioner that you are nervous about it so that they can act appropriately with you.

If you don’t feel comfortable with the person doing the exam, you can always ask for someone different. I’ve also been asked if it’s okay for a student to be present during the exam as a learning experience. You can say no to this and nobody will think poorly of you. I also cried after my first one. I’m not going to say that’s typical, but if it happens to you, don’t feel abnormal.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

It’s not atypical to cry or feel uncomfortable about the experience, if anecdotes are anything to go by.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

Apologies

I spent a good 15 minutes on that first doodle. A quarter of an hour. You better. /s

TreePerson
TreePerson
4 years ago

@Bina
Didn’t Vikings treat rape as a violent crime against the woman at the same time Europe was treating it as a property crime against her husband/father to whom damages would be paid?

Ledasmom
Ledasmom
4 years ago

sunnysombrera: Having a friend in the room with you might help. Agreed, though, that if you’ve never been sexually active you might not need the smear – ask your doctor. If you have friends you can talk about such things with, you can ask them if they know a particularly good doctor for making the whole thing less uncomfortable.
The lubricant from the speculum tends to make things a bit messy; you might want to take a pad to put in your pants afterwards. And go have a coffee or do something else fun after, too.

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

WHAT DID I DO lol

“engorged jungle gutters” “flooded floozy tunnels”

It’s like Christmas came early!

Because I did in fact know that it was a tax on the purchase, but I can guarantee you that eventually, women will want them to be subsidized not by the invisible hand, but by the machinations of top-down statist bureaucracy and legalized theft. You would probably all have tampons distributed by a central planning council which would time its distributions around your cycles.

And the tampons will be delivered by elves riding unicorns.

And, ummm, why do right wingers try to portray countries like Iceland and Norway as terrible, terrible places when they regular show up in top ten of ‘quality of life’ lists? Kind of reminds me of Bill O’Reilly claiming that the Netherlands is a crimeridden hellhole.

This gif is for you, Miggs.

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The Adjunct
The Adjunct
4 years ago

I think miggs listens to too much Mark Levin.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

LindsayIrene, if that doesn’t get rid of him, nothing will!

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
4 years ago

@Miggs,

Could you possibly stop having erections? Like, use your willpower and clench some muscle or something, so you won’t ever have an erection again? For the rest of your life?

Because that’s pretty much what you’re asking those of us with vaginas to do. You’re asking us to arrest an unavoidable biological process through sheer willpower. Do you understand why that’s not possible?

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
4 years ago

@sunnysombrera
People have covered the advice pretty well, and I especially agree with discussing it with a physician. However, I don’t know if this will make it better or worse, because I don’t know you (or anything about what helps you prepare for uncomfortable experiences), but I remember getting my first smear when I was still a virgin, and I think saying it doesn’t hurt at all might be overselling it a little. It never hurt after I’d become sexually active, but saying it won’t hurt when you’re a virgin might be a little like telling your kids that shots don’t hurt. For me, it was definitely not excruciating or unbearable, but I’d describe it as a little bit painful, not merely uncomfortable. And this was just my experience, so maybe it’s not representative. Anyway, if you get one, I really hope this may help you prepare yourself for it mentally rather than making it more frightening. 🙁

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
4 years ago

Thanks everyone for your words so far.

@Belladonna
Ehhh now might be a good time to bring up that when I once went for some radiology to check for ovarian cysts a few years ago the radiologist advised against doing an intrusive scan since I was a virgin. I don’t know if that means I’ll have trouble with the smear (hymen and all, and no I’ve never been horse riding lol) but then a small brush is a lot different to shoving a tube shaped camera up there…?

Anyway I’ll mention everything to the doctor. Thanks guys. Female biology is a bitch, huh. :-/

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
4 years ago

@Handsome Jack

Sorry if I’m seeming a bit one-track here–the concept is just too good not to improve upon. I’ll need to learn how to bleedin’ draw Claptrap, though.

-realizes accidental relevance two seconds later-

In other news, I dropped three bucks on nine packs of roast beef ramen. It’s the best.

Miggy the Towman
Miggy the Towman
4 years ago

@Scildfreja

No, there is currently no evidence to my knowledge that make-work programs are actually good for the economy. When you create these jobs, what you do is you take money away from others in the form of taxes in order to create these jobs. The money that you take from people in order to create these jobs is money that could have been spent actually stimulating the economy through purchases made on goods and services in the private sector. Ever read Hazlitt?

People complain about Amity Shales’ work because she “arbitrarily” leaves out govt. jobs in her work, but people need to explain why it is that govt. jobs should actually count as real jobs in the economy.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

Sorry if I’m seeming a bit one-track here–the concept is just too good not to improve upon. I’ll need to learn how to bleedin’ draw Claptrap, though.

He’s pretty much just a tapered cube but I say there’s no harm learning to draw something by tracing it first. Find a few pictures and trace over him a few times and you’ll get the hang of it.

(Also, I don’t mind you being one-tracked. I’m one-tracked too a lot. I wanna do a stupid comic or a gif of Bill playing the piano and then Claptrap coming in with the dubstep. It would be great, if I knew how to draw.)

In other news, I dropped three bucks on nine packs of roast beef ramen. It’s the best.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mctyxwHfGI1rghkxeo5_250.gif

(Now I want ramen.)

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Alright Miggy. You have not had the courage to respond to us in a form that clearly responds to things that people are actually saying, or contains things that can be connected to reality. It’s all emotion and empty characterization. I’m a basic aggressive impulsive male like yourself and I find the way you choose to express it very unimpressive.

This is an experimental general approach for presenting the structure of the feeling and content of text. I need some data so I guess you are worth an experimental dissection. Feel free to ask me any questions. I am making arguments about you after all.

Here is your original comment with each conceptual chunk isolated and transformed to what it is absent feeling. Feelings are ok, but they must be connected to something solid and approachable. This is your reputation. You should care about this shit.Each item in brackets is a thing that should be unpacked by you into something else. They are arguments wrapped in feelings that have no reason or logic. Insults and characterizations absent characteristics as opinion.

It’s because [demonic crocodile shepherds] like you can’t just keep it to yourselves, you have to [hatch plots in snake dens] like WHTM to [take it to the streets] so the rest of us have to hear you [moan about your engorged jungle gutters].

New version. Things in bold are replacements absent combinations of disgust and anger that is secondary to fear.

It’s because bad people like you can’t stop communicating, you have to plan to do something in a place like WHTM to go do things so the rest of us have to hear you talk about biological, medical, and cultural things related to menstruation.

This was in response to ComeOnIrene saying,

Remember that time a MGTOW came barging into a WHTM thread on an article about menstruation, and threw a tantrum because we were talking about menstruation? But it’s feminists who make it all about them?

You literally answered “someone entered out personal space and felt strongly about discussion of menstruation” with “I see people I assume are female planning to do things about menstruation”. So fucking what? Why the fuck should I care? Keep in mind that I like tearing apart communications like yours. Just as much as you appear to like to tell people with vaginas to shut up and stop doing things related to their vaginas. None of us has an obligation to shut up because you say so.

One moment, people like you are talking about the [‘liberatory’ power of uncontrolled vaginal bleeding], the next moment you’re [demanding that we trash da Vinci and replace him with Rorschach blood splatters so frenetic and degenerate in design that even Pollock would look tasteful by comparison].

One moment, people like you are talking about good things related to menstruation, the next moment you’re taking something away from me.

Not so impressive looking now are you? What the fuck are they taking away from you that I should care about? Remember, your response determines not only how I respond to people like you on the internet. It determines how I respond to you in meat space public. Just how good do you really look when I make demands for reasonable information? You look like shit.

[Life doesn’t consist entirely of the depraved, monthly machinations of your flooded floozy tunnels] and I find it almost risible that [feminist-controlled academia] and [symbols of white-male fiefdom like Beyonce] have convinced you otherwise.

Other things exist besides parts of society connected menstruation and I find it almost risible that academics interested in sex, gender and equality , and a feminist black person with a vagina have convinced you otherwise.

I have this powerful urge to use words related to mental diagnoses and breaks with reality. But people worried about ablism are right, I have an obligation to assume you are quite sane and normal (I hope you see the benefit). So, how on earth do feminist people in academia and a black person with a vagina who is feminist convince anyone that there is nothing in reality but menstruation? Let alone convince us.

You have no right to [clog the drains of public discourse] with your incessant [buzzing about crimson panties and Aunt Flo] or whatever else you crapular nub biters have [pounding at the front doors of your uneventful minds].

This is your first reference to the legal realms. So far you do nothing but use insults and tell people to stop talking about things, without showing why anyone should want them to stop beyond the fact that you are angry and disgusted in combination. This is your symbol that you appeal to, rights.

You have no right to public display of menstruation related communication or whatever else you people are thinking of doing.

Rights? Are you fucking kidding me? They so clearly have the right to be doing what they are doing that all you can have is ridiculous claims connected to nothing but anger and disgust. This is basic speech of one human to another among other humans. All you have is the hope that you are surrounded by enough other people with literally no good reason to be disgusted and angered by public discussion of menstruation. I bet you want to de facto limit the freedom of others to say lots of other things that do nothing to you but make you feel something you don’t like.

Sad little sputtering human, your days of being able to control people you have no right to control are numbered.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

but people need to explain why it is that govt. jobs should actually count as real jobs in the economy.

They do? Since you’re the one who’s asserting that they aren’t real, why don’t you prove they aren’t?

Go on. Explain why performing a job in exchange for money and then spending that money in the economy is not a real job in the economy?

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
4 years ago

Um, I’m pretty sure Brony meant to reply to Miggy, not the totally wonderful and amazing Mish!

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Welcome MrsObedMarsh!

I’m sure Miggy boy will answer your question in a reasonable and coherent fashion any moment!

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

@sunnysombrera

radiologist advised against doing an intrusive scan since I was a virgin

I wonder if it would have been anything like a vaginal ultrasound? I had one a few months ago, and they don’t just put the probe in, they move it around in all directions. At one point I had to push down on part of my abdomen so they could get a good look at my left ovary. I am nowhere close to being a virgin and it was still uncomfortable.

@ miggs

the money that you take from people in order to create these jobs is money that could have been spent actually stimulating the economy

Um, so what do you think the people with the tax-created jobs do with their paychecks? Burn them? Put them in their hats and call it macaroni? They spend that money. You want to know one reason why the food stamps program exists? That reason would be that the program is good for the food production part of the economy.

Rich people tend to dump their money in off-shore banks, where it does nothing for the economy. Money is like manure. You have to spread it around for it to do any good.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Moving on to Miggy’s second comment,

It’s amazing that so [many of you seem to think] that [an otherwise airtight argument] is somehow [undermined by the simple fact that it contains a misspelled word], as though correct thinking proceeds from correct spelling.

It’s amazing that people I won’t point out think that an argument I wont link, quote and explain is somehow worth avoiding, as though correct thinking proceeds from correct spelling.

Literal community name-calling.

You go on now, [prove everything he said in his post] with your [stupid mind games], your [caterwauling nymph snark], your [impudent desire to make every medium of communication] resemble [the ivory tower academies] you and your kind [coalesce around], with your [“citations needed!!!”] like this man is [writing a term paper for you paper-shuffling theory-congested scribblers.]

You go on now, do things I don’t specify with your social manipulation I won’t cite and explain, your visual non-literal noises, your prevention of my communication resembles educational institutions you and your kind like to be at, with your requests for the parts of reality connected to my unsupported insulting characterizations like this man is required to do something I will say is unreasonable without saying why.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Fucking typos! I got hung up on the M’s…

I’m sorry Mish! David can you correct? That should be Miggy and not Mish in my text-wall. I would be very grateful.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
4 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger:

Thank you! I also look forward to his response.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Crap, and the comment after that (Mish to Miggy replacement). I am prone to repetitive typos.

Thanks for pointing that out Belladonna “Toxic Hag”.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
4 years ago

I also look forward to Migg’s explanation of how humans can live on sunlight alone and how food is just a make-work project for farmers, butchers, grocers, truckers, cooks, waiters, etc. to cater to greedy hedonist eaters.

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
4 years ago

@Brony
Nah, I’m sure everyone, and probably even Miggy, had it figured out, anyway. And I enjoyed your deconstruction. 😉

Miggy won’t get this, though:

It’s amazing that people I won’t point out think that an argument I wont link, quote and explain is somehow worth avoiding, as though correct thinking proceeds from correct spelling.

Dumb asses never understand that we revert to mocking their typos mostly only when their supposedly “correct” thinking is so completely idiotic that it doesn’t deserve a response.

Silver Miggs: Just hear those MGTOW singling, no comingling, too
Silver Miggs: Just hear those MGTOW singling, no comingling, too
4 years ago

@ComeOnIrene and WWTH

Government institutions have a vested interest in defending their existence by any means necessary, even when it is demonstrably the case that some of them are inefficient or do more harm than good. The people who work at these institutions are concerned with maximizing their profit and minimizing the work they need to do to obtain this profit; they will often tax and tax and tax some more in order to line their pockets, while continuing to produce inefficient goods and services (govt. run schools, for example, receive tons of money, but cannot seem to use it responsibly and our children are often poorly-educated as a result – the high-school I attended as a kid has tons of shitty books, sub-par teachers, and stupid kids, but continues to blow every dime on the football team or the fine-arts center).

Because there is no competition when it comes to govt. provided services, like there is for services provided in the private sector, there’s no impetus for government run institutions to provide quality services, and there’s no impersonal market mechanism which can adequately determine what their pay should be, hence why they continue to demand pay raises in the form of higher taxes, but yet cannot provide services that are commensurate with the amount of money that they receive. Govt. institutions will always demand more for less, and the lack of competition makes it possible – survival of the institution and the money it provides for its workers is more important than the actual ability of the institution to perform its duties.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Miggy’s third comment. I’m going to try to come up with a system for describing the kinds of social manipulations that are present in each bracketed part in future comments. I mention it in case anyone want’s to try it themselves. I consider troll slaying a community project.

You’re always asking for things for yourselves, but trying to prevent men from [having anything exclusive]. You [all but arm yourselves] and [take on the YMCA with battering-rams] in order to [gain entry into a male establishment], but you expect [women-only scholarships, grants], and [trophies] in the form of affirmative action policies.

You’re always asking for things for yourselves, but trying to prevent men from preventing women from participating in something. You do things to the YMCA that I respond to by mentioning weapons even though there are no weapons involved, and I mention battering rams attacking the YMCA in order to show that I feel like physically attacking/preventing women from using the YMCA would be an equivalent response, but you expect social and institutional support in dealing with sexism and misogyny, and other things I think you don’t deserve in the form of affirmative action policies.

[Everything is about your pussies with you all], it’s as though the [absence of anything there] makes you [want to fill up your innate sense of emptiness] by [claiming everything you come across as your own], even if [you had nothing to do with its existence.]

The vagina content of your public communications is excessive. The opposite of penis makes you want to respond to not-penis related feelings by including not-penises in places I might encounter them, even if people with not-penises did not build it.

[You think nothing exists if you can’t see it, smell it, or experience it in some way]; when [you exit a room, the containments of that room may as well be nonexistent to you until you reenter it]. You [think everything is just an extension of your body or mind in some way], so naturally you think that [the merely possessing vaginas suffices to get you everything you want in life, from food, to housing, to marriage and children], it all comes back fool-[circle to your pussy-induced feelings of incompleteness].

You think some things are not real; I’m pretending you forget what is in rooms instead of describing what people are doing to the YMCA. You think things that are related to bodies and brains are relevant, so naturally you think that not-penis suffices to get you discussion of preventing things related to not-penis, it all comes back fool-having not-penis makes you feel things about having a not-penis and society.

Phryne: Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite (also cats)
Phryne: Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite (also cats)
4 years ago

@sunnysombrera, when I’ve had cervical smears, it felt like pressure. Also, seconding the suggestion of a trusted friend, so that you have something else to focus on. Failing that, a book or headphones could help, too.

“caterwauling nymph snark” is awesome, though obviously not in the way Miggy intends it. I must find a way to use it. Perhaps a band name?

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
4 years ago

In recognition (I won’t say honour) of Miggy’s fondness for naming himself after Christmas carols, let’s rewrite some to make fun of misogynists!

Joy to the world! the Mig-tau’s* come.
Let Earth receive her king!
Let ev’ry heart prepare him room,
And heav’n and nature sing,
And heav’n and nature sing,
And heav’n, and heav’n, and nature sing.

(*I spelled MGTOW phonetically. That verse didn’t require much alteration, because that’s really how they think of themselves.)

Rejoice, rejoice! when Roosh V reigns
And feminists submit!!
For all shall blow him, none complain
Nor put up with his shit,
Nor put up with his shit,
Nor put, nor put up with his shit.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I find it bizarre that Miggs is using the YMCA as his example of evil marauding feeemaales. Women have been using the YMCA for a long time. I misandered by swimming at my local YMCA way back in the 80s. Men are also allowed at the YWCA so it’s not even a double standard. Wouldn’t it be more current to claim that gaming or atheism are supposed to be male safe spaces?

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
4 years ago

Those “nor”s should be “and”s. I had it right the first time.

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

@ Laugher at Bigots

Joy to the world, the Mi-iGTOWs
Fiiiiinally weeeeent their own waaaaay!

(A girl can dream.)

Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
Belladonna "Toxic Hag"
4 years ago

@wwth

Women have been using the YMCA for a long time. I misandered by swimming at my local YMCA way back in the 80s. Men are also allowed at the YWCA so it’s not even a double standard. Wouldn’t it be more current to claim that gaming or atheism are supposed to be male safe spaces?

I don’t know. I’ve been misandering by gaming since the 70s, myself. And in the 90s, when I told gamer friends that I appreciated X-Com for giving me women soldiers and wished Doom had an option for playing as a woman, no one’s head exploded or anything!

I suspect MGTOWs of revisionist history where women didn’t used to be in spaces where they actually have been since well before most Miggies were born. Shocking, I know.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

When you create these jobs, what you do is you take money away from others in the form of taxes in order to create these jobs. The money that you take from people in order to create these jobs is money that could have been spent actually stimulating the economy through purchases made on goods and services in the private sector.

That’s literally how all jobs work. The money that Walmart spends on labor is money that could have gone straight into the Walton family’s pockets, to be spent on whatever you think the Waltons buy. The money that Goldman Sachs spends on labor is money that could have gone into the pockets of the corp’s shareholders to purchase whatever.

Your argument is so breathtakingly stupid that it’s clear you have no useful opinions on this topic.

I Saw Three Men Go Their Own Way
I Saw Three Men Go Their Own Way
4 years ago

@PoM

That’s literally how all jobs work.

No, it isn’t. In the private sector, you have a choice of where you spend your money. When it comes to the public sector, the money is pretty much forcibly-extracted from you in the form of taxation, regardless of whether or not you approve of the way that your money is being handled. The private sector can create jobs that earn their existence through providing consumers with actual goods and services that they want, aka voting with your wallet. There’s no competition when it comes to public sector jobs and services, and you’re forced to pay for them whether you want to or not – you can’t take your business elsewhere, either, since paying for these services is non-negotiable. The lack of competition for goods and services provided by the public sector results in high-prices for services which might be subpar, seeing as people who get shitty services can’t just take their business elsewhere.

“Your argument is so breathtakingly stupid that it’s clear you have no useful opinions on this topic.”

Holding your nose up at people with ideas you don’t understand is such a default position for you, I’d bet you could tell Thales a thing or two about falling into holes.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Belladonna,

Yeah, we all know women have always gamed but the manosphere seems to think it’s a new thing women just discovered 5 years ago.