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Andrea “JudgyBitch” Hardie weighs the pros and cons of hating Jews

Andrea Hardie: Not quite a Nazi
Andrea Hardie: Not quite a full-on Nazi

Andrea “JudgyBitch” Hardie, the Canadian Trump superfan and racist crossbow-fetishist, has been flirting with the alt-right for some time now. But she’s apparently still a bit confused about what exactly the alt-right is.

In the midst of an otherwise uninteresting review of Mike Cernovich’s documentary Silenced on her JudgyBitch blog, Hardie confesses:

I’m a little perplexed by the anti-Semitism of much of the alt right.

She’s shocked — shocked! — to find Nazism going on in the Nazi club.

And she’s not quite sure if she herself should tick off the “I hate Jews” box in her metaphoric application to join said Nazi club.

I can’t figure out if this is justified or not. I understand  the Jews have been kicked out of virtually every society in which they have ever gained influence, but this is hardly compelling evidence for the global Jewish conspiracy theory that seems to captivate so many.

Hardie — also known by her pen name Janet Bloomfield — seems to have accidentally stumbled on a truth here: The fact that some people hate Jews doesn’t actually prove that they’re evil puppetmasters who run the world. Much as the hate the Klan feels for black people doesn’t actually make black people worth less than them.

But Hardie is apparently still holding out hope that someone will provide her with INCONTROVERTIBLE EVIDENCE that Jews are indeed the monsters of Nazi mythology.

I am admittedly woefully ignorant on this topic. I understand that many powerful Jewish interests back the idea of a global government, which will be entirely impossible as long as European cultures have anything to say about it, but men like [Alan] Dershowitz and [David] Horowitz [both of whom appear in Silenced] appear to be pushing back against the global government with as much energy as the rest of the alt right. So I don’t know what the fuck is going on.

Allow me, Andrea, to hazard a guess at to what’s going on. You really, really want to become one of the cool kids and join the alt right. But that small part of you that is still human recognizes that Jews are also human, and that a life as a literal Nazi, despite all those hilarious Holocaust jokes and Happy Merchant memes, might be beneath even you.

Hope that helps!

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Dalillama, Effort Chicken
Dalillama, Effort Chicken
7 years ago

@Jack

That sound incredibly restricting and unfun and the exact opposite of what tabletop should be.

There’s a particular kind of gamer who talks incessantly about ‘historical accuracy’, ‘realism,’ and, among the more articulate, ‘simulationism’. They then make homebrew systems to fix this, set in an ahistorical mishmash of Northern European cultures ca AD 500 -AD1400. These inevitably display a proliferation of poorly thought out tables that remove most or all agency from PCs, and a considerable increase in misogyny relative to whatever existing games they focus their complaints on. A significant increase in racism is common, but not universal. A tabletop forum I’m part of had one around for years who spent every thread he participated in talking about his homebrew that was so much more realistic and simulationist than the flagship game of the company that hosts the forum. Eventually enough people complained that he got cautioned, and ultimately banned. (It’s not that talking about other games isn’t allowed, he was just being a real ass about it.)

occasional reader
occasional reader
7 years ago

Hello.

> Nequam
What ? A game that force you to have such delightful details as the diameter of your anus (randomly determined, of course) ? How could it possibly be wrong ?

> Handsome “Punkle Stan” Jack
In fact, it is less tabletop than binbottom games. It is the kind of games that some media are grateful and eager to use to point TTRPG gamers as horrible-terrible-satanists-who-worship-evil-think-evil-do-evil-by-sacrificing-stuff(chicken/dog/cat/obiwenkenobi)-in-dimligthed-basement-where-they-are-also-doing-orgies-and-chant-heathen-songs(because they are of course both satanists and heathens. Logic !)

Have a nice day.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@Dalillama:
I know exactly the sort of people you mean and… argh. The only defence is to not have them in your game.

Kat
Kat
7 years ago

@LUNA

I NEVER BELIEVE IN LOVE SPELL TO BRING EX BACK BUT MY FRIEND ADVICE ME TO TAKE A TRY ON IT THAT HIGH PRIEST TOKUBO HAVE HELPED HER BEFORE

Have you read nothing I’ve written? Why would I want to bring any of my effin’ exes back?!

You and your friend high priest Tokubo need to learn to read the room better.

Kat
Kat
7 years ago

@LUNA

MY DEAR FRIEND YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE IS REAL AND GENUINE. HIGH PRIST TOKUBO IS A MAN YOU CAN TRUST WITH ALL YOUR LIFE. ONE THING YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT IN LIFE THERE IS NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, WHAT MATTER IS YOUR DETERMINATION AND BELIEVE.

Okay, I was harsh and I apologize. The idea that nothing is impossible in life has got me thinking.

There’s this guy. I don’t want him near me, I want him far away. Do you think your friend high priest Tokubo could get rid of him? Don’t hurt him. Just transport him to a small, unpopulated island where he can grow his own food and stuff.

His name’s Donald. See what your friend can do. Thx.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@LUNA:

ONE THING YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT IN LIFE THERE IS NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, WHAT MATTER IS YOUR DETERMINATION AND BELIEVE.

Can Tokubo provide an analytic solution to the three-body problem? If so, I’m very interested. This suggests a glorious future of cooperation between scientists and magicians.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

It occurs to me that since we’re talking RPG-nerdery and also mocking LUNA and their magician friend, this gives me an opportunity to ask something that’s been bugging me for a while.

LUNA says that “I NEVER BELIEVE IN LOVE SPELL TO BRING EX BACK BUT MY FRIEND ADVICE ME TO TAKE A TRY ON IT THAT HIGH PRIEST TOKUBO HAVE HELPED HER BEFORE. I GAVE HIM A TRY AND TODAY MY EX IS BACK. MY DEAR FRIEND YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE IS REAL AND GENUINE.”

Assuming for a moment that LUNA is right, this means that Tokubo used mind control magic to cause LUNA’s ex to reverse a course of action which they had previously decided upon. Is it just me or is this a horrendously immoral use of magic? Most breakups are for good reasons, after all, and using magic to override that decision suggests that a person is being kept in a bad relationship.

More broadly, is there any moral use of mind control magic?

Kat
Kat
7 years ago

Assuming for a moment that LUNA is right, this means that Tokubo used mind control magic to cause LUNA’s ex to reverse a course of action which they had previously decided upon. Is it just me or is this a horrendously immoral use of magic?

It’s just you. I want this guy Donald gone. There’s nothing immoral about it. If Luna’s friend can get Donald to a balmy unpopulated island by hook or by crook, it’s all good.

More broadly, is there any moral use of mind control magic?

See above.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
7 years ago

@ EJ

More broadly, is there any moral use of mind control magic?

The whole ‘love spell’ thing is a hot topic in a lot of magic using communities. The general consensus is that any spells that try to manipulate people are unethical. That’s a morality thing rather than a magic thing though. (i.e. There are spells that could do that; but you shouldn’t use them).

So most love spells work along the lines of “help me meet someone whom I’ll get on with” or if you must insist on chasing a particular person then spells that will bring out the best in you so you may be more attractive to them. Heh, I suppose that’s the magical equivalent of ‘start lifting to attract women’.

But morality and magic is an interesting topic. Some traditions do have a sort of ‘built in’ ethical code. Ideas like magic rebounding on you (often with the effects multiplied). So doing magic to benefit others gets you good karma but using it for nefarious purposes will come back and bite you in the arse.

Other traditions just treat magic as a tool. So it’s like how you can use a hammer to build an orphanage or break into a house. There may be consequences but they’re not inherent to the actual tool use; they arise, if at all, from extraneous internal or external factors.

As to whether there’s any moral use of mind control magic; that’s just the same condundrum as the use of coercion generally.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
7 years ago

Granny Weatherwax would never use a love spell. Nanny Ogg, on the other hand … she’d make one of her famous dishes that get people very, um, hot. She has a much more flexible approach to these moral issues 😀

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
7 years ago

Don’t hurt him. Just transport him to a small, unpopulated island where he can grow his own food and stuff.

Real men can subsist entirely on seagulls.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
7 years ago

I dunno….It might work better if someone were to create a realistic simulation for Don, one where he can tweet all kinds of stuff without any of the problems and pressures but 100% more of those campaign thrills that come from seeing himself in the media (foreign and domestic!)….a few attractive, statuesque blondes to lure him there, and once he enters the door is locked, then another 6 or so layers of no-exit tech quickly put in place and it’s better if the whole thing is set up to be in a basement so the building above can be condemned and demolished with the lot declared too toxic for humans to ever EVER go near again – with a great big fence. A YUGE fence, the biggest most fence-y fence. With a moat occupied by sharks AND crocodiles (don’t ask, science can deliver?)

We can do this! Of course…we’ll still have the issue of the ALT-NAZIs to contend with…giant Florida-style sinkholes? Or a really jazzy promo campaign for a great fabulous life that awaits those with racial purity-protection on their minds in the exclusive “Sea Gull Shores” (sounds better than ‘that rock with sea gulls’)?

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
7 years ago

EJ:

Can Tokubo provide an analytic solution to the three-body problem?

Depends. Is this an issue relating to your love life?

(Sorry.)

Kevin
Kevin
7 years ago

Alan Robertshaw:

I can’t help equating ‘love spells’ with date r**e drugs – and being surprised J K Rowling used such a plot line when creating the back story of Voldemort’s parentage.

Falconer
7 years ago

Welp, I thought I was ready for the bulletin point rundown of “Fantasy Wargaming,” but boy. I was not ready for the end.

@EJ

More broadly, is there any moral use of mind control magic?

I’m not sure. About the only case I can come up with right off the top of my head is using charm spells to avoid a fight, e.g., the party doesn’t want to tackle this ogre, so they cast charm person and talk their way around him. Otherwise, it’s how Dracula gets into the boudoir or the party gets into the mansion, government building, or other place where they’re not allowed.

Stronger stuff, like domination, quickly gets into flat-out villain territory. One illustration for domination in one of the psionics books depicts a mind flayer who has both dominated and collared an adventurer.

On the other hand, the most common gameplay in D&D is combat, which is hardly an undertaking likely to consider the autonomy of the opponent.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
7 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen

Besides being an anthromorphic sexy fox lady, with an outfit that calls back to the old pulp scifi covers and everything.

You might be interested in looking up Richard Bartrop; he’s a Canadian artist who does both fox ladies and a lot of pulp-SF style art. Not sure he’s done jetpack vixens before, but has done vixen nose art and B-movie space suits.

Falconer
7 years ago

Did someone mention … seagulls?

https://youtu.be/U9t-slLl30E

Dex
Dex
7 years ago

@leftwingfox

I personally am not worried about Leitch’s candidacy. Her negatives are climbing quickly and she’s basically at her ceiling in terms of inner party support. The only way she comes out of the Leadership Convention is the utter collapse and scandal of all the current big names.

If you want, contact Mark Ruzylo, who is running the #notmyMP campaign in your riding. Leitch is an Albertan who was dropped in by Harper in 2011 to hold the riding. A strong effort to undermine her already tenuous support always helps. Would be party leaders who lose their own ridings tend to have it count against them.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
7 years ago

“Sea Gull shores…No lefty-PC-SJWs, our shores our rules”?

And yes. Sea gulls – on the supper table of every manly man. And the breakfast table, lunch table, also brunch and afternoon tea. They’ll want to get a cookbook together, it’s important to know all the ways one can prepare sea gull for eating…them eating the birds not the…ok well I think the point has been made. In a roundabout way. Sort of.

Sea Gulls – stop it now!?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

@William Butthurt Yeats

Unrelated to anything, but I love your username. Poetry + Puns = Yes.

Kevin
Kevin
7 years ago

Gulls are a protected species in my neck of the woods – and the size of pterodactyls.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

@Dalillama

It’s funny when people say misogyny and racism are “historically accurate” on such levels as that game has, but they weren’t. They weren’t at all. I’m pretty sure the people who claim those games are historically accurate just want to play games in which they can be assholes to people they don’t like without consequences.

I mean, I read that link and it has a “lust” stat and a suggestion to play a “brazen harlot”–it’s not made to be historically accurate but to satisfy the fantasies of white men.

Tovius
Tovius
7 years ago

@Kat @ LUNA

Be sure Donald takes his friend Mike with him. Always nice to have a buddy with you on a deserted island.

Dalillama, Effort Chicken
Dalillama, Effort Chicken
7 years ago

@Jack
Apparently that one was put together by a group of Cambridge undergrads in the late 70s. Which explains a lot, actually. The guiding light, such as it is, of the project died a few years later, which is probably why it hasn’t got as much exposure as terrible games whose creators are still vociferously defending their garbage on the internet.

It’s funny when people say misogyny and racism are “historically accurate” on such levels as that game has, but they weren’t. They weren’t at all. I’m pretty sure the people who claim those games are historically accurate just want to play games in which they can be assholes to people they don’t like without consequences.

In most cases, they want being an asshole to people they don’t like actually encoded in the rules, whereby such people get actual different intrinsic traits and attributes. Which, in most mainstream games, it is not. There’s often plenty of unconscious bigotry in the illustrations and flavortext, but rarely in the actual rules. Hence the asshole brigade insisting on making their own games.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

Apparently that one was put together by a group of Cambridge undergrads in the late 70s.

That DOES explains things.

In most cases, they want being an asshole to people they don’t like actually encoded in the rules, whereby such people get actual different intrinsic traits and attributes.

God forbid people they don’t like can actually be useful or intrinsic or complex in a game they like, as if it was real life. It invalidates their hate and may make them actually sympathize with those gross women and minorities.