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Wait, so you’re telling me the term “lügenpresse” has something to do with Nazis?

It does have a faint Nazi ring to it, huh?
It does have a faint Nazi ring to it, huh?

PR can be a touchy issue for the alt-right. Some who’ve joined up with (or at least glommed onto) the euphemistically named movement have cried foul at the Nazi salutes at the recent National Policy Institute conference — on the grounds that they might cause some outsiders to think that their obsessively anti-Semitic, white supremacist movement had something to do with the Nazis.

Similarly, some worry that the alt-right’s embrace of the German term “lügenpresse” (lying press) might also draw Nazi comparisons, just because the term was really, really, really popular with, you know, the Literal Nazis.

As one self-described shitlord asked plaintively on Twitter yesterday:

https://twitter.com/Limsky420/status/803258552332611584

After several minutes of exhaustive research on the subject, which consisted of looking through a couple hundred of the most recent Tweets using the word, I have concluded that the sort of people who like to use the word “lugenpresse,” well, let’s just say that it wouldn’t be too hard to detect a certain Nazi-ness about them, even if they never ever uttered this particular word in public.

I mean, seriously:

https://twitter.com/tdltdltdltdltdl/status/803397446134923264

https://twitter.com/SwampDrainr/status/803378565312114688

https://twitter.com/sir_croak/status/803281958587482112

https://twitter.com/AltReich1488/status/803047442841096192

https://twitter.com/GreatArtiste45/status/802919793116352512

https://twitter.com/bat_shitlord/status/802828261206163456

https://twitter.com/MengerianKnight/status/802739175174737920

https://twitter.com/WallWatcher1983/status/802237437946855424

https://twitter.com/ShadowWar_1/status/802193707781025793

https://twitter.com/Mundilfury/status/801801289831223298

https://twitter.com/whiteamerican11/status/801524521358544896

https://twitter.com/attentionmustbe/status/801605161374203904

https://twitter.com/WallWatcher1983/status/801230704218664961

Oh wait, I’m being told that “lügenpresse” has nothing whatsoever to do with the Nazis.

https://twitter.com/ChristiEquites/status/802459233589424128

Oops! My bad.

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“We’re not using a Nazi term! We’re just using a term that existed before them that they used a lot in their propaganda so we can use it a lot in our propaganda!”

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 years ago

Jews shouldn’t be allowed to hold positions in American media. Not anti-semitism, just common sense.

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Paul Beaulieu
7 years ago

No doubt this is all meant ironically too, isn’t that right, Richard Spencer?

And I love Facta Non Verba’s logic, which is that any concept, expression or symbol that was not literally invented by the Nazis can in no way be associated with them.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I like how the guy with the white power cross as an avatar is getting defensive about being called a Nazi. Next we’re going to hear about how you can’t call racist people who are into swastikas Nazis because they’re not the ones who invented the symbol.

The Thousand Cock Stare
The Thousand Cock Stare
7 years ago

I’m oddly amused by literal Nazis getting all offended when people point out that they’re acting like Nazis.

Kevin
Kevin
7 years ago

Nazis daring to stick their heads above the parapet ? Time to break out the .303 and the battle bowler before they internalize we’re on to them…

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

@TTCS “OH NOES!! OUR PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY R GONE!!!”

For a minuscule amount of ‘plausible’. 😛

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

They do realise that the media’s on their side, right?

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
7 years ago

so sick of these guys

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
7 years ago

I gotta name for the Far-Right media outlets! – LOOGIEPRESS!

….Cuz FOX “News”, Breitbart, Conservapedia, etc. make me wanna SPIT!

Take that, Trumpsters!

Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
7 years ago

They do realise that the media’s on their side, right?

Not quite. The “movement” isn’t organized or solidified, so everyone and everything is “other” at this point. The business plan right now is to build as much fear into the base as possible. Until the press is under the immediate and direct control of the Party, it is still the enemy.

An-n-n-n-n-d it’s looking less like The Cheeto is gonna turn out to be that new Fuhrer… Elaine Chao has been tapped for Transportation Secretary. Not only a PoC, but married to the consummate “Washington insider”, Mitch McConnell.

Now, I’m not thinking The Cheeto’s going to be taking the side of truth and justice, no way… but after having picked Priebus as Chief of Staff, and now THIS… well, the True and Up (alt-) Right have gotta be concerned about the direction their god-king is going.

brian
brian
7 years ago

wait, there are “black pills” now too? i can’t keep track of all these different colored pills!

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
7 years ago

@Brian

I think it’s a parody, given that it advocates non-Alphas simply removing themselves from the equation (if memory serves)

@SpukiKitty

I concur!

In unrelated news, I tried doing egg ramen again. Some of the white got scattered, but it’s properly poached now!

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

Until the press is under the immediate and direct control of the Party, it is still the enemy.

But even if “The media doesn’t care about anything but ratings and’ll happily destroy the world for one extra Nielsen point” isn’t enough for them, half of it already is under their control. Murdoch’s been famously pro-Nazi since the original Hitler.

Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
7 years ago

@ LindsayIrene…

Whoooo is that in the gif????

I thought first, Marlon Brando from “On the Waterfront”, no…
Dennis Hopper from “He’s Alive”… no…

so, help me out, toss me a bone… ???

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@Eddie
Newman? Can’t tell what in, but it looks like Newman…

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago



In reply to Scildfreja, not Axe. 🙂

Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
7 years ago

@SFHC

Thus the distinction between the “lugenpresse” and the “real” press… aka “LOOGIEPRESS”

Thanx, SpukiKitty, you have coined a WORD!!!

Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
7 years ago

@Axe

I think too much chin for Newman

🙁

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
7 years ago

@Eddie & Axe

Google says Brando.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
7 years ago

@ Weird

It is young Brando, but I don’t know what film it’s from.

(Going OT, he’s mentioned–and pictured–in this interesting essay on shirtless male celebrities of the last hundred years.)

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

OP of gif says it’s Marlon Brando doing a screen test (doesn’t say for what)

http://giphy.com/gifs/maudit-maudit-marlon-brando-i-like-blinks-iKjTQZRDor0ac

Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
Weird (yeah, it CAN happen here) Eddie
7 years ago

@Axe, SFHC

Wow… Brando audition for Rebel Without a Cause!!

Fer real!

ETA: @Fishy, too

Ain’t Google wunnerful?

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
7 years ago

@Weird Eddie

*bows to your superior Google-fu* 🙂

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 years ago

Jews shouldn’t be allowed to hold positions in American media. Not anti-semitism, just common sense.

He is calling for the institutionalized barring of Jewish people from certain positions in society. Codified, official discrimination on the basis of Jewish ethnicity/religion. I cannot imagine what definition of anti-Semitism he is using where that does not apply.

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