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Mr. Smallestpenisever the MGTOW demands: SHOW ME THE EFFORT CHICKENS!

An Effort Chicken hard at work
An Effort Chicken hard at work

There are many things I’m thankful for, on this day after Thanksgiving, one of them being those misogynistic dinglebats who make my job easy by coming to this blog and dropping huge textwalls of WTF-ery in the comments here.

Yesterday, one such fellow, calling himself Smallestpenisever, deposited an amazing, angry, incoherent, and defiantly unproofread rant in the comments to one of my posts on MGTOWs from earlier this week. I only now forced myself to read the whole thing, and it’s really too good not to share with the world.

Mr. Smallestpenis begins by quoting a passage from a commenter here who had taken aim at those “whiny white men” who long to return to some imaginary misogynist golden age in which women were little more than submissive slaves to men.

“’Tiny whiny white men’????,” Mr. Smallestpenis quotes indignantly, and inaccurately, adding the word “tiny” to the quote for no apparent reason — perhaps it reminds him of his smallestpenisever?

How come men never assign feminists to any human race.Only feminist can be so aggressive.

Apparently calling whiny men whiny is such a crime against humanity that feminists have to be read out of the human race.

So when you state men f.. d up relations between women and men so what is your point???They went with naked bodies on the streets protest against women’s oppression?haha.

CHECKMATE, FEMINSITS!

Every time Mgtow asks a feminist on date “do you consider yourself and independent woman”… she replies “Well,yes”….He replies”then you pair 50% as you want equality.lol.

CHAEKMATE, FEMINESTS!

Yes.you feminists do follow own agenda only when suits you.You claim to be always opressed and not treated equally but when yoh gonto some bars and clubs its always “leadies night drinks half price” or any women’s health related problems have about 8x more support from government then men have.

Owh, yeas, et’s Leadies’ Nieght

Annd tha fealing’s reaight

You want earn same money men earn but you prefer a coffee and shopping every weekend and less hours ag work complaining about “wage gap”.

Er, the wage gap is about women being paid less for the same or comparable work. Feminists aren’t demanding that women be paid more for working less. Even if they do enjoy the apparently intolerable luxuries of coffee and weekends off.

Ok so how many of you are electricians,plumbers,car mechanics,protect own country from terrorists???YOU state tk be equal so go and show the effort chickens.

SHOW ME THE EFFORT CHICKENS!

Still women complain about being depressed and down wben men’s happienes go up.How long will you kidd yourself??

You should probably ask this guy:

Captain Kidd has the answers
Captain Kidd has the answers

Ahh.I forgot its about feelkng factor..”I want to be treated like a princess and control sex life with my man dosing it carefully checking if he took rubbish bags out”. You claim to be independent but when it comes to moveing the house or changing a flatten tire you suddenly ask for men’s help??Haha…..wow.

Pretty much every time I have moved I have asked for help from women — and gotten it. And after several truly hellish moves I started hiring movers. Because furniture and boxes of books are heavy and moving is hard.

Using your male friends for tasks when you live as single parent not wanting anything from man?It must be double standard policy(quite popular in 3rd wave).

Being a single parent is tough. I imagine that single mothers ask female friends for favors more often than they ask men, if only because the women are far less likely to be creepy dudes who think that doing a woman a favor entitles them to sex.

Also, though this may come as a shock to Mr. Tinywhinypenis, sometimes people ask single parents for favors.

In fact, people ask other people for favors all the time. And they pay people with specialized skills and/or equipment to do work that they aren’t able to do (or do as well) themselves. Because we live in a society, and that’s how societies work.

Worry not,more and more men are going mgtow and they dk not need babysitting.

Weird, because MGTOWs tend to sound a lot like toddlers having tantrums.

And one more thing at the end.I am healthy,never been adopted not abused kn childchood,

Er, being adopted isn’t some sort of moral failing; neither is being a survivor of abuse.

I do not have problems with errection and I am not sad.

Erectile dysfunction isn’t a moral failing either. And jeez, dude, you’re the one who brought up the whole penis thing.

I don’t know about you being “sad” — also not a moral failing — but you do seem just a tad angry.

I have to mention that otherwise you start making comments by suspecting what could happened to me.Remember Mgtow is not a movent,its way of life.Feminism.became like religion.Feminist always state”everyone should be a feminist”,”If you are not feminist you are against us” Bezzzt thing feminist claim for equality for hoth genders whole name stands for “femine”….Do not tell me that I did not caught you on lie again.

I’m going to let someone else handle the reply to this last mess of text because I’ve reached my limit here, and, hey, there’s nothing wrong with asking other people for the occasional favor.

So come on, effort chickens, help a fella out.

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Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

Im looking now haha =)

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Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
7 years ago

@Lera

I was more concerned about my LGBTQA+ buddies getting shook up by that asshole. (Though I note that one of my buddies, whose parents think might be gay but is really asexual by his admission, finds him (and his apparent homespun “music”) to be hilarious.) I think I heard someone call that dude….Brother Jed or something?

Also:

…in a much more viscous way…

Hopefully it

stuck with ‘im

Lera
Lera
7 years ago

How do I create a profile pic and insert images into my post? Sorry if i have missed something here that tells me.

@Jack
The convo has disappeared. I’m really sorry, I must have deleted it out of spite after i blocked him. 🙁

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
7 years ago

@Lera

Profile pic: gravatar.

Insert images: post url to image on separate line, ending with file extension .jpg, .gif etc.

kupo
kupo
7 years ago

@Lera
Just go over to gravatar and sign up for an account using the same email address you use here. Or, if you already have an account, add the email address you’re using to it. It might take a few minutes and you’ll probably need to refresh the page, but that’s all there is to it.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

The convo has disappeared. I’m really sorry, I must have deleted it out of spite after i blocked him.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/44e572cfd139420aa807be71d99ae176/tumblr_ny2st1cM7a1ugm48zo1_250.gif

Well, that’s disappointing.

Oh, well, here’s Lobo in a suit to show there’s no hard feelings.

http://i.imgur.com/pZW0zAE.png

Lera
Lera
7 years ago

@Imaginary Petal
@kupo

Thanks for the help!

I was more concerned about my LGBTQA+ buddies getting shook up by that asshole. (Though I note that one of my buddies, whose parents think might be gay but is really asexual by his admission, finds him (and his apparent homespun “music”) to be hilarious.) I think I heard someone call that dude….Brother Jed or something?

Asexuality is probably the most misunderstood form of sexuality out there. Wherever i see it mentioned there’s always some asshole saying shit like “People claim theyre asexuality cos they cant get laid huhuhuhuh. Pisses me off because a lot of the time that person is a member of the LGBTQA+ community.

Also whats with these evangelicals appearing on college campuses of all places? Trying to indoctrinate the youth? It makes me sick and i never even went to college. (I dropped out of my high school because of the homophobic bullying, stalking and harassment I experienced daily. Sending me to an all-boys Catholic high school was one of the the worst decisions my parents ever made.

I became agoraphobic after i dropped out, and although I’ve been leaving the house for about a year now I’m still dealing with anxiety, depression and constant paranoia when around groups of guys).

@Jack
If i may ask what comic series is that from? The detail put into the pic is astounding.

Falconer
7 years ago

@PeeVee, he knows what the space bar is. He’s just decided to answer the question of “one space after a period, or two spaces” by going NONE. NONE SPACES. That period stole fizzy lifting drinks it gets NOTHING.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
7 years ago

@Lera

Last things first: I cannot directly see your situation, but I can understand how terribly it must suck. Unfortunately, a better world for us all will not come easily.

And for context, my roommate is also ace. So is one of my sisters. And a few of my friends back at high school (which I learned when attempting to get at propositioning them, awkwardly enough). Honestly, my ability to understand why some people understand that there are people out there that Do Not Want Sex is….in a tangential sense, similar to my inability to perfectly see your situation. Hard to see through the eyes of someone who’s been through much worse than I, and also hard to see through the eyes of an ignorant asswaffle. Obviously, the problem would be mutual no matter who I attempted to see through the eyes of. (And given my glasses, your/asswaffle’s view may just be fuzzy since I rarely clean these things.)

As for the “preacher”: Well, it is a red state I’m in, and there are Trumpets on my campus. And he might think he’s gathering wayward sheep from an errant flock or whatever. -shrug- Next time I see he’s there, I’m going to see if I can convince someone else from my dorm to make out with me in front of him or something like that.

Kat
Kat
7 years ago

”Smallestpenisever — what a braggart! I seriously doubt that this guy is so outstanding”.But that is only a speculation and will remain.So again feminist talk vs facts proven.

Let me get this straight, smallestpenisever: You believe that you have proved that you have the smallest penis ever.

But you have done no such thing.

And I stand by my opinion: I don’t think that you have the smallest penis in the history of men.

I’m sure that someone does. I don’t think it’s you.

Moocow
Moocow
7 years ago

@Handsome Jack & @WWTH

Glad that what I’m saying is rooted in fact. I wouldn’t have it any other way!

Oh yeah and btw, WWTH, I checked out that southern strategy (I saw your reply but I didn’t feel like necroing that thread) and found a video transcript, definitely made my eyes widen. Thanks for sharing that

@PluckyGirlZoologist

I get lost in which threads have which conversations and I forget who said it (I think Visceria) but it was something along the lines of

“Love at first site just says ‘all I care about is your looks and nothing else'” except more cleverly worded.

Rhuu
Rhuu
7 years ago

@Falconer

That period stole fizzy lifting drinks it gets NOTHING.

I needed to bring this quote some more visibility, because I was actually laughing out loud to myself here.

LindsayIrene
7 years ago

“I’m not interested in dating so I don’t date but I like sex and sex is easy to get but there’s not enough sex and it’s all women’s fault.”

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Lera
Lera
7 years ago

And for context, my roommate is also ace. So is one of my sisters. And a few of my friends back at high school (which I learned when attempting to get at propositioning them, awkwardly enough). Honestly, my ability to understand why some people understand that there are people out there that Do Not Want Sex is….in a tangential sense, similar to my inability to perfectly see your situation. Hard to see through the eyes of someone who’s been through much worse than I, and also hard to see through the eyes of an ignorant asswaffle. Obviously, the problem would be mutual no matter who I attempted to see through the eyes of. (And given my glasses, your/asswaffle’s view may just be fuzzy since I rarely clean these things.)

I completely understand, it is difficult to see through the eyes of someone who’s had such a different experience than I. There was an asexual guy in my high school who i became friends with who had parents who were completely understanding and empathetic to his sexuality. The fact that his parents lovedand understood him that much provoked some real envy in me at the time, although i feel pretty guilty about it now due to how difficult life was for him too at school. Word happened to get around that he was asexual and the cruel bigoted fucks also made his life hell.

As for the “preacher”: Well, it is a red state I’m in, and there are Trumpets on my campus. And he might think he’s gathering wayward sheep from an errant flock or whatever. -shrug- Next time I see he’s there, I’m going to see if I can convince someone else from my dorm to make out with me in front of him or something like that

That would be awesome. Please film it so I can see his reaction. Are the trumpets a threat to anyone on campus, and do they all happen to be straight white males? Im not sure i could keep my mouth shut if i saw some entitled shit bragging about how Trump won and how hes gonna build a wall etc.
Over here in Britain that would be classed as hate speech and the student would face punishment.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

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So, I’ll try to avoid repeating points here that other commenters have made (and made better than I could), but I did want to address some points that I saw in Atom’s post.

Atom Ant | November 26, 2016 at 1:40 pm
Hello, everyone! I’m a MGTOW. Wait, wait, please put your pitchforks down…

Pull yourself off that cross, boo-boo. Self-martyrdom is a bad first impression.

The MGTOW that was quoted in the main article…well, let’s be honest. In terms of schadenfreude, he’s sort of low-hanging fruit, isn’t he? The online world is full of poor representatives of various groups, movements, ideologies, and what have you. It’s easy to find caricatures to make fun of.

Don’t you love it when they start with a semi-fallacy?

I mean, this is borderline No True Scotsman.

However, I’m going to be charitable. ‘Tis the season and all that. So, Atom, care to provide another example of a non-sexist MGTOW? Just one is all I’d need.

If you truly want to know what you’re dealing with, however, it’s better to find a more credible example. That’s where I come in!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vampirediaries/images/6/6b/This_gonna_be_good.gif

I mean, it’s not like David’s been cataloguing MGTOW posts for literal years or anything! I mean, we totally need some dude to ‘splain MGTOWs to us widdle wimmens. [/sarcasm]

I’ve never been a relationship guy. Actually, for that matter, I’ve never been a people person. I’ve never had any interest in dating, and though I tried a few relationships when I was younger, they didn’t work out. Granted, I wasn’t really invested in them. I do like sex, however, so there’s that.

And that’s a perfectly valid way to feel. Relationships aren’t for everyone, and, quite frankly, I’m sick of the idea that I need to be in one or get married because I’m female-presenting. It’s pretty gross.

However, that’s not what MGTOWs are about. They’re not about “just not being in relationships and rejecting the idea that people need to be in them to be happy”, they’re about blaming women (and their lack of willingness to fuck MGTOWs) for their unhappiness and all their problems.

I mean, you can try to ‘splain that away all you want, Atom, but you’re just one anecdote on a blog of data to the contrary.

I actually described myself as a feminist, because I liked the idea of doing away with rigid gender roles and expectations. I also liked that (certain types of) feminism were sex-positive. I am Pro-Sexual-Revolution for both selfish and altruistic reasons. My attitude was (and is) “Let’s change things however we want, have fun, and have lots of sex!”

So, you’re not a feminist and you never really were dude. Quite frankly, you were a dude who was trying to use feminism to get laid.

And I personally can’t stand dudes like that. They’re scummy as fuck. And no, you don’t get brownie points for being honest about it. You were scummy.

I didn’t enjoy my experience with relationships, and I’ve never seen any relationships that looked appealing to me. Overall, I keep to myself, and I try to think about this stuff as little as possible. But I’m fascinated by the MGTOW phenomenon–I thought that I was the only guy struggling with these issues–and I found this blog while I was researching it.

Perhaps you should have read some more of this blog and what we have to say about “the MGTOW phenomenon” before you commented in favor of it?

David’s been cataloguing the Manosphere for years now (I think it’s about six, correct me if I’m wrong David), so perhaps you’d do well to read what he writes on the subject before forming an opinion on whether or not you’re a part of their group. I’ll link the category here for you again in case you missed it.

And before you go “But I’m not sexist! I just agree with their ideas about relationships!” allow me to posit the following scenario:

Let’s say you like watching satellite TV, and you find yourself wanting to get HBO for some reason. So, you call your cable provider, and you say “Hey, I want to add HBO to my package.”

“Sure thing, Mr. Ant!” The customer service person says. “However, we only offer HBO in a package with Cinemax at the moment. Will that be alright?”

Now, let’s say you don’t really care about Cinemax. You don’t want to watch any of their shows. But you really want HBO. So, you agree, and you sign up for their package deal.

So, the question now is this: Are you a subscriber to Cinemax in this situation?

You could say “No, of course not, I’m only subscribed to HBO.” but here’s the deal: You’re still paying for Cinemax. It’s on your bill, you can watch it whenever you’d like, therefore you have access to it. In other words, you were okay with the idea of getting Cinemax, as long as it lead to the outcome of HBO.

So, what does this scenario have to do with MGTOWs?

If you’re describing yourself as an MGTOW, and you say you agree with their way of thinking, then you’ve branded yourself as, at best, A Person Who is Okay with Sexism, or at worst A Sexist Person.

That says a lot about you as a person. None of it is good I’m afraid.

(If you’d like to read more about The Cinemax Theory of Bigotry, here’s the original article by John Scalzi about it. It’s originally about Trump and racism, but I find it also fits here quite nicely.)

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Falconer, lol. That’s why I suspect it’s my little friend from the other site.

I’m serious when I say they can be the same person…they write identically.
Same over-inflated sense of intelligence, too.

Wonder what stole his enter key?

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
7 years ago

@Lera, re: preacher dude

My phone has a case with a flap that gets in the way of pics/filming, and I am very reluctant to remove my case due to fear of breakage. But I’ll see what I can do.

I’ve seen pro-Trump posters, lazy vandalization of pro-Hillary chalk drawings (the “N’T” being scratched out of “PRO-BLACK ISN’T ANTI-WHITE”), and one (white) dude wearing several Trump shirts over a period of several days (ironically in the class of a professor who immigrated from [a country classable as Middle-Eastern withheld for his privacy]). (Cannot determine sexuality of dude.) Not much talk though. I even saw an older (white) dude holding up a #NotMyPresident sign in the same zone That Asshole frequents. (I told him A. he’s not alone and B. my experience with That Asshole, saying sign dude is better than That Asshole.) I have not yet witnessed an active something I can conclusively identify as Trumpet asshattery. If this changes, I have a loud mouth, girth, and pepper gel around my neck at all times while out.

Falconer
7 years ago

@Rhuu, @PeeVee, your laughter brings me life. LIFE.

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PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

Falconer, laughter is life! ?

Atom Ant
Atom Ant
7 years ago

@kupo

“What do you mean when you ssy you’re a MGTOW?”

Basically, I’ve chosen to avoid serious relationships, and not to have children, either. (I made this choice long before I ever heard of MGTOW.) Also, I choose not to financially contribute to women in any way, aside from the unavoidable (tax-related stuff, and no, I’m not complaining about taxes). And while I always found men unpleasant to be around, I’m starting to feel that way about women, as well.

Are a lot of MGTOW men sexist? Yes, absolutely. Most? Yeah, you could probably argue that, though we’re talking about the most vocal ones–the ones that post on blogs and forums and the like. Many men who have never heard of the term are MGTOW. I’ve met some of them, and from what I could tell, they didn’t seem sexist to me. Unfortunately, too many MGTOW men allow themselves to be consumed by anger, and get too caught up in all this stuff. I try to avoid it as much as I can, because there’s no point in getting worked up over it.

My issue is…I don’t really fit anywhere else. In terms of my experiences, I fit more with them. In terms of my politics, I fit more with you. I’m sort of a man without a tribe, right now. And, good lord, there I go being a martyr again! Little did I know that the right of being a martyr was reserved for…uh…well, some list of groups, with the list not having been given to me.

Also, I’m not claiming to be a feminist MGTOW; I’m saying that I used to identify myself as a feminist, and no longer do. Ironically, when I was younger, multiple women told me that I was the most feminist guy they knew. Now, though, it’s men that tell me that I need to be more pro-women, and women telling me that I need to stop giving cover to feminists. It’s weird, the pendulum has really swung in the last decade or so.

@weirwoodtreehugger

Yeah, you’re kind of rude, and I’m not gonna waste my time with that. Great name, though!

To clarify my comment on casual sex: I believe that it’s still relatively easy to get, compared to other eras in recent American history…but I believe that it’s getting more difficult. I think that the ’00s were better in this area than our current decade. And, while I’m successful with women (compared to other guys in my situation, at least), I feel that I should be even more successful…but there’s no point in arguing with you guys about that.

@ Paradoxical Intention

“If you’re describing yourself as an MGTOW, and you say you agree with their way of thinking, then you’ve branded yourself as, at best, A Person Who is Okay with Sexism, or at worst A Sexist Person.”

If I’m sexist, you’ve defined it down so much as to render it a meaningless label. And that label must include a significant percentage of women, as well. It’s one thing to accuse men of being sexist, but accusing women is going to be a harder task, IMHO. It’s going to sound like you’re simply using that term against any women that disagree with you. But, please, go with that! I’m sure that “You’re horrible people, now shut up and support us!” will be a winning strategy for you, among both men and women.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
7 years ago

@Atom:

What do you hope to achieve by posting here?

LindsayIrene
7 years ago

while I’m successful with women (compared to other guys in my situation, at least), I feel that I should be even more successful…but there’s no point in arguing with you guys about that.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-15478-Nathan-Fillion-speechless-gif-TeGC.gif

Here. I will throw all the pussy at you that you feel you deserve.

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weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

PeeVee,

Clearly it’s to confirm his bias. Women are evil bitches. So he comes on a site that mocks misogyny, defends a notoriously misogynistic group, complains about how all the icky fatties have the unmitigated gall to have standards on who they’ll date/sleep with, and makes a veiled threat about how men will hurt or kill women for not fucking them and that’ll be all women’s fault. When this for some mysterious reason is not well received and we’re less than polite to him, he gets the confirmation he seeks. Women are bitches!

Same as any other anti-feminist troll that comes here.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
7 years ago

@Ray Pym (it’s funny to me)

I choose not to financially contribute to women in any way

If I’m sexist, you’ve defined it down so much as to render it a meaningless label

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Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
7 years ago

I miss Mr chickenlittle. Even though he only came by that once, I keep hoping he’ll come back.

Where is he right now, do you think? On a date with a feminist? Measuring a shopping centre’s boutiques with his tape measure? Refusing to take out the rubbish?

I pine to hear more from him.

Atom ant does not compete with him.

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