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Mr. Smallestpenisever the MGTOW demands: SHOW ME THE EFFORT CHICKENS!

An Effort Chicken hard at work
An Effort Chicken hard at work

There are many things I’m thankful for, on this day after Thanksgiving, one of them being those misogynistic dinglebats who make my job easy by coming to this blog and dropping huge textwalls of WTF-ery in the comments here.

Yesterday, one such fellow, calling himself Smallestpenisever, deposited an amazing, angry, incoherent, and defiantly unproofread rant in the comments to one of my posts on MGTOWs from earlier this week. I only now forced myself to read the whole thing, and it’s really too good not to share with the world.

Mr. Smallestpenis begins by quoting a passage from a commenter here who had taken aim at those “whiny white men” who long to return to some imaginary misogynist golden age in which women were little more than submissive slaves to men.

“’Tiny whiny white men’????,” Mr. Smallestpenis quotes indignantly, and inaccurately, adding the word “tiny” to the quote for no apparent reason — perhaps it reminds him of his smallestpenisever?

How come men never assign feminists to any human race.Only feminist can be so aggressive.

Apparently calling whiny men whiny is such a crime against humanity that feminists have to be read out of the human race.

So when you state men f.. d up relations between women and men so what is your point???They went with naked bodies on the streets protest against women’s oppression?haha.

CHECKMATE, FEMINSITS!

Every time Mgtow asks a feminist on date “do you consider yourself and independent woman”… she replies “Well,yes”….He replies”then you pair 50% as you want equality.lol.

CHAEKMATE, FEMINESTS!

Yes.you feminists do follow own agenda only when suits you.You claim to be always opressed and not treated equally but when yoh gonto some bars and clubs its always “leadies night drinks half price” or any women’s health related problems have about 8x more support from government then men have.

Owh, yeas, et’s Leadies’ Nieght

Annd tha fealing’s reaight

You want earn same money men earn but you prefer a coffee and shopping every weekend and less hours ag work complaining about “wage gap”.

Er, the wage gap is about women being paid less for the same or comparable work. Feminists aren’t demanding that women be paid more for working less. Even if they do enjoy the apparently intolerable luxuries of coffee and weekends off.

Ok so how many of you are electricians,plumbers,car mechanics,protect own country from terrorists???YOU state tk be equal so go and show the effort chickens.

SHOW ME THE EFFORT CHICKENS!

Still women complain about being depressed and down wben men’s happienes go up.How long will you kidd yourself??

You should probably ask this guy:

Captain Kidd has the answers
Captain Kidd has the answers

Ahh.I forgot its about feelkng factor..”I want to be treated like a princess and control sex life with my man dosing it carefully checking if he took rubbish bags out”. You claim to be independent but when it comes to moveing the house or changing a flatten tire you suddenly ask for men’s help??Haha…..wow.

Pretty much every time I have moved I have asked for help from women — and gotten it. And after several truly hellish moves I started hiring movers. Because furniture and boxes of books are heavy and moving is hard.

Using your male friends for tasks when you live as single parent not wanting anything from man?It must be double standard policy(quite popular in 3rd wave).

Being a single parent is tough. I imagine that single mothers ask female friends for favors more often than they ask men, if only because the women are far less likely to be creepy dudes who think that doing a woman a favor entitles them to sex.

Also, though this may come as a shock to Mr. Tinywhinypenis, sometimes people ask single parents for favors.

In fact, people ask other people for favors all the time. And they pay people with specialized skills and/or equipment to do work that they aren’t able to do (or do as well) themselves. Because we live in a society, and that’s how societies work.

Worry not,more and more men are going mgtow and they dk not need babysitting.

Weird, because MGTOWs tend to sound a lot like toddlers having tantrums.

And one more thing at the end.I am healthy,never been adopted not abused kn childchood,

Er, being adopted isn’t some sort of moral failing; neither is being a survivor of abuse.

I do not have problems with errection and I am not sad.

Erectile dysfunction isn’t a moral failing either. And jeez, dude, you’re the one who brought up the whole penis thing.

I don’t know about you being “sad” — also not a moral failing — but you do seem just a tad angry.

I have to mention that otherwise you start making comments by suspecting what could happened to me.Remember Mgtow is not a movent,its way of life.Feminism.became like religion.Feminist always state”everyone should be a feminist”,”If you are not feminist you are against us” Bezzzt thing feminist claim for equality for hoth genders whole name stands for “femine”….Do not tell me that I did not caught you on lie again.

I’m going to let someone else handle the reply to this last mess of text because I’ve reached my limit here, and, hey, there’s nothing wrong with asking other people for the occasional favor.

So come on, effort chickens, help a fella out.

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joekster (Bearded Beta)
joekster (Bearded Beta)
4 years ago

I don’t have a lot of time to post, so I’ll just say this (apologies if I offend anyone):

Atom Ant seems to have a lot in common with a younger version of me: shy, not talkative, not terribly interested in romance, knows he’s a man interested in having sex with women, etc.+

The difference seems to be that I grew up firmly believing that a relationship is a prerequisite to sex*. When I was younger, I realized that I wasn’t interested enough in sex to put the work into a relationship, and I accepted that as a fair trade. Therefore, I was never particularly bitter about being celibate** (although I did get occasionally irritated when friends and family would try to hook me up with random women***).

Atom Ant seems to believe that a relationship of some sort is not a necessary prerequisite for sex, and he seems to be irritated that the women he tries to date disagree with that. Is that a fair assessment?

+The whole ‘shy, not very talkative’ bit caused significant professional difficulties, as you may imagine 🙂

*Oddly enough, no one stressed that that relationship had to be marriage. It was always stressed as more important that the two partners know each other, have talked about various important things (like what you’re going to do if the woman gets pregnant and the like), and that both individuals are interested in sex with the other.

**I didn’t loose my virginity until I was 24.

***My mother always said that ‘I just hadn’t met the right woman’. Funny thing is, I think she was right: when I met the woman who is currently my wife, all that relationship stuff that had seemed like such a hassle suddenly didn’t seem like such a big deal anymore.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

Wait…was I called a victim and told to leave the hypothetical partner who won’t take the trash out that was introduced by the mgtow complaining that women don’t sleep with him for reasons he doesn’t think are good enough?

*head tilt*

Ooooookay.

I keep snickering at, “I’m not getting laid as easily I did a decade ago.”

What!?! No? Who ever heard of such a phenomenon?

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

@Imperator Kahlo
Aw shucks, thank you for that.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
4 years ago

(apologies if I offend anyone)

Why don’t you just not say offensive things in the first place?

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
4 years ago

Everyone has different offensive threshold levels.

I once offended my hair dresser by saying the word dildo. She finished blow drying me in huffy silence, shooting me angry looks in the mirror. It was SUPER awkward.

Thank god I never brought up vibrating rubber tentacles , she probably would have ripped my hair out.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

BoinkBoink:

My MIL worships at Our Lady Of The Perpetually Offended. I understand completely.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
4 years ago

@PeeVee,

You should totally invite me to your family reunions.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/03e7db084bf0fa3ebdb93a1725520902/tumblr_mxz6feUpM91s2wio8o1_400.gif

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Damn, I love that gif.

(And it would make these family reunions infinitely more tolerable. For me, anyway.)

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Crooked Nasty Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Crooked Nasty Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

Aaaaand I got Bingo!

Also, that ridiculous generalization that women work less reminds me of this jokey saying “Of course women work less, we get it right the first time!”

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

I was out having The Most Disappointing Day Ever, so I missed our guests. @Atom Ant, you are experiencing selection bias in your extrapolations, you should fix that! @mrweepenis, learn paragraphs and pacing! They are crucial for communicating ideas!

Yesterday was dumb, you guys. Drive an hour to meet someone for a thing he invited me to, and has reminded me repeatedly about. He was a no-show and called an hour after he was supposed to be there to apologize – he had work come up and forgot to tell me. Went home, showered, changed, prepared for a new meeting with other friends, a roleplaying thing. I buy some snacks and lemonade and treats for everyone like I do and get back on the road. As I’m driving in I get a call saying that he had cancelled. Of course, I’m already mostly there, too (At least there were a few others there for that)

This whole week I might as well call the Week of Abandonment. Blegh. Im’a hide in my bed today and glare hate-beams out my eyes at the phone.

And there’s my complaint of the day! \o/

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BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
4 years ago

@Scildfreja Unnýðnes

I’m so sorry. That’s sounds SUPER frustrating.

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/ftpuploads/bloguploads/0413/epic-hugs-friends-adventure-time.gif

@PeeVee

I am available! Just pay me in alcohol and cookies and I can be bought for any occasion you need. ^_^

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

@Scildfreja Unnýðnes, that stinks! (I hate when that happens!) 😳

@BoinkBoink, I’ll let you know!

The burning question I need answered…

What kind of cookies?

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Crooked Nasty Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Crooked Nasty Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

@Scildfreja Unnýđnes: I’m very sorry about that! That would piss me off too.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
4 years ago

Anything without caramel or raspberries.

Bleh (>_<)

Rhuu
Rhuu
4 years ago

@Scildfreja Unnýđnes: i feel your pain! I have one rp group that insists on coordinating everything on gchat or hangouts or whatever. Which no one told me about? So they were all “this is canceled” and everyone but me knew. So there i am, at a restaurant having just ordered take out so i wouldn’t be late, with my bag full of dice and a head full of dreams, when i get a text. “We’re not playing tonight, didn’t you know?”

So now i have to eat this take out by myself on a park bench. :C

Or that time they changed the day and NO ONE TOLD ME and i was working like 14 hour days. “Where are you?” I am asked.

“I am an hour away by transit and i am working until AT LEAST 9, so i guess play without me.”

…. i’m so sorry you didn’t get to do the things you planned on, it’s so disappointing.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

<3 everybody. Thanks for the support! We're running into the same problem, @Rhuu, in that communication is terrible. Unfortunately, the gamemaster's the one who's a social luddite and doesn't communicate – no texting, no social media of any sort. I can occasionally get ahold of him on steam, otherwise it's a call to a landline – he doesn't have a cell. He waits to the last minute to cancel, and if he does he just calls the host, and then the host tries to get ahold of everyone else. It's super awkward and annoying – if it's your game, you have a responsibility to let everyone know! People have lives!

Grumble gromble. I'm gonna start bringing a board game or two, I think.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I guess Atom really is going to stick to the flounce. I guess we’ll never get to know the name of the non-misogynistic MGTOW site.

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Lera
Lera
4 years ago

“My phone has a case with a flap that gets in the way of pics/filming, and I am very reluctant to remove my case due to fear of breakaMy phone has a case with a flap that gets in the way of pics/filming, and I am very reluctant to remove my case due to fear of breakage. But I’ll see what I can do.”

Yeah me too, I was mugged a week ago and my phone was stolen I’m suuuuper protective of my new one, and I’m reluctant to take it outside (which defeats the purpose of a ‘mobile’ phone but whatevs). I’d say don’t do it if there’s any chance that your phone could break in the process.

I’ve seen pro-Trump posters, lazy vandalization of pro-Hillary chalk drawings (the “N’T” being scratched out of “PRO-BLACK ISN’T ANTI-WHITE”) and one (white) dude wearing several Trump shirts over a period of several days (ironically in the class of a professor who immigrated from [a country classable as Middle-Eastern withheld for his privacy]). (Cannot determine sexuality of dude.)

Ugh I bet they see themselves as enlightened revolutionaries here to save the white ‘race’ from extinction or something. What a bunch of losers. I feel sorry for the professor, hope that was the only attention seeking prick he has to put up with on a daily basis.

Not much talk though. I even saw an older (white) dude holding up a #NotMyPresident sign in the same zone That Asshole frequents. (I told him A. he’s not alone and B. my experience with That Asshole, saying sign dude is better than That Asshole.)

Good on him, we need more white people to denounce and protest Trump, since it was racist white folks who got the monster elected in the first place.

I have not yet witnessed an active something I can conclusively identify as Trumpet asshattery. If this changes, I have a loud mouth, girth, and pepper gel around my neck at all times while out.

Haha just be careful around trumpers, they’re super macho meatheads after all. I’m completely for watching out for and reporting any hate motivated verbal or physical assaults though, a number of schools in the US are having a problem with that sort of thing, although for colleges/universities im not completely sure.

Moocow
4 years ago

Too bad, and he didn’t respond to anything I wrote, which I’ll take as a compliment ;D.

@Scildfreja Unnýðnes

Wow. Between this and your Thursday experience holy crap you deserve so much better! Many hugs, sucks to have friend bail or make you feel uncomfortable.

At least you can roleplay My Little Pony here!

http://iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de/mlp/gif/32374__safe_pinkie-pie_fluttershy_animated_gummy.gif

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

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Thank you! I’m gonna, like, eat cookies and play a single player video game today or something. I think that sounds nice.

And they never reply to anything interesting – they always glean out the most inane nonsense to reply to and ignore the actual core of the discussion. All flash, no substance. Sigh.

Dalillama, Effort Chicken
Dalillama, Effort Chicken
4 years ago

@Scildfreja
Ugh. all the *hugs*.Pretty much all of my ‘tabletop’ gaming is online these days, for reasons basically like that. And they still get canceled unexpectedly, but at least it happens when I’m home in my underwear.

Moocow
4 years ago

@Scildfreja

That sounds great! I’ve been doing the same after I picked up some games on Black Friday (Currently thoroughly enjoying the “war stories” of Battlefield 1. It feels so genuine, not heroic and glamorous; doesn’t shy away from depicting the ugly destruction of war. Every time I crash a tank through a building I’m in awe of the awesome realism but also acutely aware of the sheer destruction I’m causing.)

I’ve had similar feelings towards friends. Always being the one trying to make plans and do stuff and not getting much help or enthusiasm from others. Kinda get that feeling that you’re not on the same wavelength.

Me: Let’s go to this new place that opened up!
Friend: For sure, I’ll hit you up this week
*2 weeks later*
Me: So, this week?
Friend: For sure, I’ll let you know
*2 weeks later*
Me: …

And that’s just for a meal. I can only imagine TableTop roleplaying takes way more coordination (never done it myself, despite being an avid lover of roleplay in video games!)

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
4 years ago

@Lera

re: phone

ahhhhh paranoia. I’ll probably get a third party to film.

re: dude and graffiti

I am unsure if the dude was also the vandal, and I never remembered him making much of a stink in-class aside from wearing the shirt. Still, side-eye is intense with this one.

re: be careful

I plan to be.

Bina
4 years ago

Oh wow, this thread done blowed up while I was away from it…

So, let me see if I can work up a response that sums up my feelings about what all I’ve read over the last 5 pages or so:

1. SmallestMindEver showed up and tried to impress with his intellect. Unfortunately, not many people care to try to tweeze a bit of sensical argumentation out of an incoherent, barely literate wall-o-text.

Personal conclusion: Incoherent troll is incoherent. Not worth engaging with.

2. MGHOWNotReallyGHOW shows up, tries unsuccessfully to convince us that he was a “sex-positive” feminist until meanie consent-talk feminists spoiled his game. Tries negging us with the “good luck” flounce when his stratagems and gambits all fail. Succeeds only in making me laugh. Srsly, Mr. Sex-Only-Wanter: Just use your dominant hand and an old sweatsock. Anything else obviously will only demand more maintenance and humanity than you are capable of giving. Also, newsflash: You argued here with any number of male feminists/allies. Feel silly yet? You should, because you ARE.

Personal conclusion: MGTOWNotReallyGTOW are just pickup artists manqués, who, like their PUA brethren, have trouble with the whole concept of women being people with wants, needs and personal preferences, and chafe at their own inability to meet any of those. But they’re still drippingly bitter about it, even as they try to convince us otherwise. Won’t work, dudes, we have a little feminist tool of analysis called READING COMPREHENSION. Bafflegab doesn’t work on us. We eat your kind for breakfast here. And you taste stale.

* * *

As to that non-misodgey MGTOW site he was referring to: I’m sure I’ve seen it. It’s called CoolStoryBro.com.

(Yes, I pulled that one out of my ass. It seems only fitting after all the MGTOWNotReallyGTOW shit…)

bearpelt
bearpelt
4 years ago

I realize that I’m a bit late to the party, but back on page 5 of the comments, “Atom Ant” wrote this interesting response.

http://i.imgur.com/CAfqzir.png

Especially this sentence: “Do I feel that I deserve it? Yes. Does that mean that I’m entitled to it? No.”

I have something special to share with everyone.

http://i.imgur.com/n6A0CwU.png

Let’s look a little closer.

http://i.imgur.com/IFK7s4c.png

Clooooserrrrr…

http://i.imgur.com/VkHIlRr.png

Would you look at that?

Rhuu
Rhuu
4 years ago

@bear pelt: *snerk*

@moocow: if you were interested, you could check out roll20. It’s an online system agnostic tool where you can play tabletop stuff, from any edition of d&d to pathfinder to whatever. There are forums where people post to get games together.

I didn’t get to play until a few years back, but ny 60$ investment into a players hand guide for 5e was probably some of the best money i ever spent.

I’ve also come to realise that one of my characters is most definitely ace, which is pretty hilarious to me. Didn’t intend it, but she’s reflecting my positive, friendly, and distracted aspects… As well as how untuned i can be to people’s motivations around me.

“What, you thought i was flirting? I was just trying to tell you about this really pretty stream we passed. Sorry?”

I would like another character to be very definitely trying to seduce all the ladies before her idiot brother can, but i’m not super out sooooo i’m nervous about that. But it might be a good way for me to feel a bit more comfortable thinking about that? Maybe?

My point is that i’m having a great time with the tabletop stuff, and i’m hoping to use it to maybe play with some scenarios i’m super uncomfortable with, to maybe make them less so.

There are many reasons to play! *is an enabler for thissssss*

(Plus you get to buy DICE and they are so pretty, i can’t wait for my polyhero wizard set!!!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/polyherodice/polyhero-dice-wizard-set)

@Scildfreja: ARGH! That can be so frustrating, because they are already doing all this work, and it’s so hard to ask them to do one more thing… But communicating plans is part of their job tooooooo.

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
4 years ago

@bearpelt

Pah! A thesaurus? No mere thesaurus can even hold a candle to my glorious manly stem, I mean STEM logic! It was probably written by virtue-signalling Essjew liberal pinko commies!

bearpelt
bearpelt
4 years ago

@Rhuu Thank you, thank you.

http://i.imgur.com/6PRdkTw.gif

@Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy

I HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT! My sinister feminist plans are RUINED!

http://i.imgur.com/UHoKDGN.gif

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

@bearpelt

Are you new here? Because I don’t think I’ve seen your name.

I like you already.

http://55.media.tumblr.com/a468608d0f331ee60cc0420bd77e8b00/tumblr_mh17wjf0Zw1rw1kqbo1_400.gif

bearpelt
bearpelt
4 years ago

@Handsome “Punkle Stan” Jack

http://i.imgur.com/6V504Mp.gif

D’awwww, thank you~
I’ve lurked for quite a while on WHTM but I think this IS my first time commenting here. I simply couldn’t pass up that opportunity.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

That’s a magnificent entry, bearpelt. Bravo.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

I’ve lurked for quite a while on WHTM but I think this IS my first time commenting here. I simply couldn’t pass up that opportunity.

Here’s hoping it’s one of many.

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bearpelt
bearpelt
4 years ago
Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Scildfreja
You’ve been having a rough time of it lately. I hope that the world starts turning your way soon.

@Lera

Yeah me too, I was mugged a week ago and my phone was stolen

I’m so sorry to hear that! That’s a scary experience. I hope that you’re able to recover from that trauma soon.

@bearpelt
Thank you for that journey into the Land of Synonyms.

I use a thesaurus often in my work. It’s endlessly fascinating (enchanting, alluring, captivating, riveting . . .).

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@joekster

Therefore, I was never particularly bitter about being celibate . . .

I never was either, although sometimes I was sad. You have to be pretty arrogant to think that you are owed a partner. And to think that the world owes you a partner that will make your friends envious? Mind-boggling.

. . . although I did get occasionally irritated when friends and family would try to hook me up with random women.

Yeah, sometimes I wondered whether my friends and family had actually met me.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ bearpelt and Kat

Why is there only one word for ‘thesaurus’?

StephToe
StephToe
4 years ago

@Kat snap.

I am single not by choice and have been so for years but was never bitter about it. It always seemed an odd thing to be bitter about – we aren’t entitled to partners after all!

The only thing annoying is the badgering I get about it from friends, family, hairdressers. I’m like “back off people, it’s not gonna happen!”

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@StephToe
Yeah, I hear you. No badgering, people!

@Alan
I suppose it’s because thesaurus is the one perfect word for “synonyms all in one handy place.”

Falconer
Falconer
4 years ago

Also, that ridiculous generalization that women work less reminds me of this jokey saying “Of course women work less, we get it right the first time!”

During the war — maybe I’ve told this one before — my paternal grandmother worked for a time repairing radios for the army. She got promoted to like, line manager and had to do QC for a group of workers, and she swore up and down that men just couldn’t do it right. She had to fix their repairs all the time.

The women on the line, however, got it done right the first time, more often than not.

Falconer
Falconer
4 years ago

A gnu poster and we haven’t dogpiled and driven them off yet? Unpossible! We are completely and totally unwelcoming of gnu folk. It Is Known.

(Heya and welcome, bearpelt! Welcome packages over on the right, if you still need one!)

Falconer
Falconer
4 years ago

AAAAUUUUGH I WANNA PLAY 5E SO BAAAAAAAAD

WHY DID I HAVE TO GO AND HAVE TWIIIIIIIIINS

*ahem*

Sorry about that.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

“Gnu” is one of my favouritest words.

Falconer
Falconer
4 years ago

Shorter Trump: “When we only count votes for me, I won unanimously!”

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

He fricking won and he’s still not happy.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

Nothing less than admiration or submission would make them happy.

Makroth
Makroth
4 years ago

@ Falconer

Whats your beef with gnus?

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Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

@bearpelt, you are my new favourite <3 Screencap wizardry is one of my favourite things.

And there is only one word for Thesaurus 'cause they all went extinct in the Cretaceous.

http://jaycwolfe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Thesaurus-Dinosaur.jpg

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
4 years ago

Ahhhhh, I love this comments section. 🙂

*dives in*

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Nothing less than admiration or submission would make them happy.

Never admired him, never will. Have never submitted to anyone, never will.

No matter how many simplistic tweets that asshole puts out.