With all the terrible things going on in the world today, it’s nice to be reminded that some things remain unchanged even in Trump’s brave new America.
The Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, I am happy to report, remains a small oasis of stability in a rapidly changing world. Reddit’s MGTOWs are the same creepy weirdos they’ve always been.
Today, for example, the regulars in the MGTOW subreddit are waxing indignant about a young woman who had the temerity to take a butt-selfie in her bathroom while carrying a baby in a baby sling. As bathroom butt-selfies go, it’s pretty tame; she’s wearing underwear, and it’s not even particularly scanty. And the baby clearly has no idea what’s going on.
But the MGTOWs manage to work themselves into a frenzy nonetheless. Not so much about her butt or even the baby but about her UNFORGIVABLE FAILURE TO PUT THE TOILET PAPER ROLL IN THE TOILET PAPER DISPENSER.
![skeletonized 12 points 7 hours ago This is an epidemic I have not yet been to a girl's place and found the spring loaded stick adorned with the roll. THEY EVEN DO IT WITH PAPER TOWEL DISPENSERS IN THE KITCHEN They wont but the roll onto a stick that gives you leverage to rip off a square. They subconsciously wont put the stick (penis) through the cardboard tube (vagina) I'm convinced this is Freudian. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]Tyler_Gatsby 11 points 11 hours ago I don't think women do that anymore- put toilet paper on the dispenser. They'll set it everywhere they can sit it except there. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]PipBoyTInkerer 15 points 11 hours ago BUT MEN SHOULD PUT THE TOILET SEAT DOWN, AMIRITE GRRLS?](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/tp22.png?ssl=1)
I dunno, dudes. It could be that the loose-toilet-paper-roll gals of the world know that if they put rolls in the dispenser, this will happen:
Or this:
Or possibly this:
I mean, it’s cute and all, but these little monsters can rapidly deplete even the most substantial hoard of toilet paper.
Back on Reddit, meanwhile, other MGTOW subreddit regulars are working themselves into a lather over the smudges on butt-selfie-gal’s mirror.
![rat-biker 4 points 5 hours ago She's taking the pic into a pretty dirty mirror. Notice smudges center right side. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]vanets 1 point 2 hours ago Chad and Tyrone's seed](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/smudge.png?ssl=1)
Chad and Tyrone, that is really very impolite. I expect more from you, Chad and Tyrone!
The giant rolls we use in my house at the moment won’t fit in the dispenser when they’re new, so they stay on the counter until they’ve been sufficiently reduced in size. As for the over/under question I believe in over, simply for aesthetic reasons. There are normally no animals around for it to be an issue.
My bathroom doesn’t actually have a toilet paper dispenser so we store our toilet paper on one of the shelves of the shelving unit in our bathroom. This is slightly annoying because I am clumsy enough to occasionally drop the entire roll of toilet paper (this always happens to me when the roll is mostly full) into the toilet when trying to use the toilet paper. However, this is not annoying enough to me to actually buy a toilet paper dispenser
@belladonna
I actually didn’t realize that guys didn’t wipe themselves after peeing until my male roommate started routinely forgetting to flush the toilet (this annoys me more than not having a toilet paper dispenser)
Manospherians accuse us of complaining about utterly trifling matters, and then they do things like this.
@ sparkalipoo
The current boyfriend used to not flush after peeing, especially at night, because it saved water and he didn’t want to wake people. After the third time being told if he didn’t want to disturb people he’d learn to use his indoor voice and being environmentally friendly entails taking showers less than a bloody hour long and quite fucking frankly I will go and start stabbing penguins myself if it means my bathroom won’t smell of piss all the time, he finally stopped. There are few things I do not compromise on. The pleasantness of my bathroom is one of them.
And obviously I would never actually harm a penguin, they’re fucking adorable.
I’ve had to live with yellow/mellow from my partner. In montreal, which has a huge ducking river all around us. I couldn’t change this behavior, it was too engrained in her from childhood growing up with a shitty well that couldn’t quite provide enough water.
When I go visit her in Iqaluit I’ll be more tolerant. There, there’s no water and sewer pipes, because you can’t use pipes to move water when the average temperature is below freezing!
So they have trucks deliver water and (hopefully different) trucks picking up the sewage.
Hello.
Hell, i understand better the expression “the devil is in the details”, now. The glass is never half full for them, it is always half empty because women never fill it enough ! Being so dedicated to find something to blame on the women, even on stuff as phony as a selfy, is both stunning and ludicrous, in my opinion.
About men pissing wrongly because of bad aiming, we have an old little catch phrase taught when we are youngs, which is “Pisse droit, pisse mou, mais pisse dans le trou”. If we translate it texto, it says “Pee straight, pee soft, but pee in the hole”. If we try to make some kind of equivalent to keep a rhymy sound, maybe something like “Pee soft, pee strong, but control your dong.” would make it ?
Have a nice day.
@Mish
Some FMA always brightens my day! 😀 This is one of my favorite fanarts:
@Belladona
So many of these inequalities come back to the same problem. Male = default. I started noticing over the past year or so how many commercials assume a male audience. Car commercials especially. I can only think of two that even bothered to entertain the notion that women buy cars. And one was a mini-van with the driver being a mom doing mom things.
Also, I’m not well versed in military lingo, What’s MOS mean?
I confess I have my TP roll on the counter… in the master bathroom that only I use. I find it at least as convenient to use that way as when it’s on the dispenser. My bathroom, my rules.
In the bathroom that gets used by guests, though, I’m more conventional and always keep the roll refreshed and on the dispenser.
It’s almost like it doesn’t have to be an issue of gender, laziness, stupidity, or morality. As if people are allowed to set up their house however makes sense for them. Imagine that!
@skeletonized
When you’re not around, those women put the “stick” in — never through! — the “cardboard tube.” Sometimes they do it all day long.
But they’re adamant that you can’t put your penis in their vaginas.
And even if you learned to punctuate, I don’t think you’d stand a chance with women. Any woman. Ever.
I had a boyfriend — a grown-up man with a career — who would come over to my house (shared with housemates) and spend the night. In the middle of the night, he’d get up and urinate and leave the seat up. It was very annoying for my housemate (who also owned the house!).
I reminded him many times about this problem, but it kept reoccurring.
Then one morning my housemate/landlady told me that he had peed all over the seat in the middle of the night. She hadn’t turned the light on and had found out by sitting down in pee!
Not only that, I went to a party at his office one time, and another guest who worked in the building approached me and said that someone was using the bathroom on the second floor (where his office was) and not putting the seat down. Hmmm. I wonder why she told me this?!
As pathetic as it might seem, this extreme behavior is all about power and control. (I don’t mean that every guy who forgets to put the lid down is trying to manipulate others. But this guy was.)
I finally kicked his ass to the curb.
PS: Even that behavior isn’t as bad as what a friend told me about her boyfriend, another grown-up man with a career. He insisted on peeing in the bathroom sink! She begged him not to. His teenage daughter begged him not to. Nope. He had to exert power and control by peeing in the sink.
@Moocow,
Is that from deviant art, or somewhere else? It’s adorable <3
Kat
Eeewwww!!!! O.O Some men would do anything to get that little bit of power, even something as petty (and gross) as peeing in the bathroon sink. WHY?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!
I don’t understand why it would appeal to someone to pee in the sink in the first place.
@WWTH
Only thing I can think of is, ‘I’m a man you can’t tell me what to do!’. Apparently in this case ‘man’ and ‘toddler’ are interchangeable.
Yes, I’m convinced that peeing in the sink was all about that particular guy’s power and control over his environment, including his girlfriend and his daughter.
And that’s abuse.
As pathetic as it is, some people will use pretty much anything to exert power and control over others.
Why go to that length to exert power and control? Because that’s what abusers value. Not love, not equality, not intimacy — power and control. It makes them feel big and strong.
WWTH
Oh, I know this one!
Two possibilities: one, you are living alone in a chambre de bonne at the time, and the shared-between-20-or-so-people loo is a looooong way away at the end of the third corridor and those corridors are cold and dark at night.
Or two: you’re an arse, and just like pissing people off because you can.
So women don’t put toilet paper on the holder because it reminds them of icky peens but then they contend that we are also fucking “alphas” all the time.
How does that work in their heads? We hate sex with peen havers but have it all the time and both are bad?
Whatever.
The toilet in the ladies at work wasn’t working the other day, so I used the guys. Wow. It was nasty. The old dried piss smell was so bad that I tried to hold my breath the entire time. I feel sorry for men who don’t wee all over public restrooms, but have to share them with men who do.
Mine is on a roll holder in my bathroom (my cats grew out of their paper shredding phase), but not in my kids’ bathroom because they aren’t about to refill a holder anyway and I pick my battles. I’m just happy that they hit the water for the most part, flush, wash their hands and turn off the lights. That’s a lot for kids to remember. The paper can sit on the tank. I don’t care.
Oddly enough, random dude’s peens don’t have anything to do with it.
@Redsilkphoenix, @Mish, @Moocow
I cannot WAIT!! My son and I re-watched Brotherhood about a year ago and I am just giddy over this new live-action film. I really really hope it will at least come to Fargo because I’d like to see it on the big screen if at all possible.
It just looks so effin’ cool.
There was a nightclub of dubious repute that we used to frequent. It was taken over by new management. They decided to try and class the place up a bit. So no more “10 pence a pint night” (or as the police used to call it “10 pence a fight night”). They spent a lot of money on new decor and that extended to the bathrooms. Gone was the old metal trough to be replaced with gleaming marble. Flashy hand lotions instead of the big tub of Swarfega. Unfortunately they also had the bright idea of installing an ornamental pond in there; complete with fish.
What were they thinking? The poor things would have stood a better chance as fairground prizes.
Moocow – MOS translated to Air Force lingo is AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code) and designates your job (infantry, jet engine repair, personnel office, medical technician, telecommunications, etc.)
In the AF, if you work in an admin job, you also get trained in a “war skill” AFSC for purposes of, well, war and also to participate in base-wide exercises. I would assume that this happens in the Army, too. Maybe Belladonna can confirm.
@Belladonna,
I HAVE CRACKED THE CODE
MGTOWs are not G’ing T O W at all.
I know, it’s a shocking conclusion, and highly contentious. I have a pretty high burden of proof here.
It’s a synonym for incel, or “involuntarily celibate”. There’s no distinguishing difference in behaviour. The only thing I can see is that the ‘incel’ guys are owning the fact that they aren’t getting laid but want to, whereas the MGTOWs are all “fine, be that way! I don’t want you stinky ladies anyways! I’m gonna go my own way!” Otherwise, same damn thing.
Every time I go into the bathroom after the kids have peed, and view the devastation, I think of that sentence from Bill Bryson’s A Walk In The Woods: “If the stains were anything to go by, a previous user had not so much suffered from incontinence as rejoiced in it.”
Only a MGTOW would notice that the toilet paper has been cucked.
This piss discussion has now gotten the opening song from Shameless stuck in my head.
@dreemur
I’m super excited!! I cannot get enough FMA, and I’m super glad they’re trying to stick to the original source material as much as possible. Also very curious on how they’ll do some of the more gruesome scenes or the homonculi in general
@Mish
I forget where I found it the first time. I have a folder on my computer dedicated to crossover fanart. I love thinking about how different characters from different fictional universes would interact! Here’s another, featuring Okami and Avatar:
http://img04.deviantart.net/2940/i/2012/122/d/d/avatar_okami__meditation_interrupted_by_ellie_underhill-d4ybqc3.jpg
Sorry for the doublepost, just realized I missed @Hambeast’s reply:
I see, so it’s like some sort of career specialization. Ok, then yeah, that definitely should be a greater determinant than gender.
@Kat
“Why go to that length to exert power and control? Because thats what abusers value. Not love, not equality, not intimacy power and control. It makes them feel big and strong.”
“Sink pissing” goes far beyond abusers. Any man who has been brought up to “wear the pants”, and “be their own man” will do it until he questions his beliefs. These attitudes are directly antagonistic to attitudes of equality and cooperation, since no-one can “wear the pants”, or “be his own man”, in situations where everyone cooperates and shares. (This isn’t even getting into how much phrases such as “wear the pants” are inherently shaming, because they imply that any man that isn’t in control, isn’t really a man.)
Going on a bit of a rant-
Uncooperative attitudes may be most obvious in guys that play “king of the castle”, but they also play out in guys who act subservient to girls. (“I’m a jerk if I don’t want to do what she says, so I will treat her like a queen.”) Both types of guys always eventually turn to passive aggressive shit, because both types see relationships as power struggles, and all humans, no matter how “nice”, have an inherent dislike of feeling subservient. So they play petty and passive aggressive games because realize that it’s harder for a girl to leave a guy for “petty” differences.
And yes, I do think that pissing in the sink is beyond “petty”, but it’s also possibly “nuts”** enough that the guy will get away with it. Because women making what are viewed as “crazy”** allegations are automatically viewed as being petty and vengeful. (Ie. “He’s too nice to do that.”)
**Save the lecture, I’m referring to society’s ableism here, not my own. If you think there’s any other way I could put it, you probably don’t understand my point.
***As a side-side rant, I’ve actually heard other feminists make arguments against promoting “empowerment”, because poor people, and stuff. How cluelessly misguided. Power is something EVERYONE has, yes some have more than others, but just about everyone has *some*. Empowerment isn’t just in gaining more power, but in recognizing the power that’s already there- and not giving it away!