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Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

The only thing is that with a Republican majority in House and Senate if Clinton wins we’re likely to get another Obama presidency; that is, they will likely block and slow down anything Clinton wants to get done, but hopefully in 2018, people will get their heads outta their asses and actually vote for shit that matters.

Midterm elections matter. You here that my little chickadees that can’t vote yet? 2018. Mark the date.

And remember to vote in your local elections. Those elections will effect you a lot.

Also, I just wanna say, all the propositions I voted on went well. Weed legalization, cigarette tax, better bilingual education–it’s going well.

Weird (and stunned) Eddie
Weird (and stunned) Eddie
8 years ago

[CW: burning irony]

I click Scildfreja’s link to Keith Olberman’s “The Closer” for today, first I get the ubiquitous YooToob Ad… for “The Urban Carry G2; concealed carry holster”… (gotta get me one o’ THEM)… with the following “tag” line:

Americans have never faced a threat quite like the one we do today

Oh, Mr. GunGrabScare… you have NO FUCKING IDEA….

Cynical Optimist
Cynical Optimist
8 years ago

Petty venting ahoy…

I can’t believe how many people I’ve had to call out for denying Trump’s racism. And I thought these were good people. I was friends with them FFS.

I know this is absurdly petty in comparison to the problems other people here have, but seeing willful ignorance offline is new for my sheltered self.

Luxbelitx
8 years ago

Thank you, thank you all. It helped me so much to know I could count on you.

Gf is awake now, we’re talking and she’s even making the occasional joke. Goddess I could cry with joy.

I send my love and solidarity to all. We’re all in this together and that’s how we’re getting through.

Take care of yourselves, take care of others. Those are the important things right now.

Also this.

rugbyyogi
8 years ago

preuxfox – being different, even being afraid, makes you a target now, makes us all targets. You are brave by being yourself. Your life can be your activism so long as you go forward despite the fear and stand by the person who is also afraid. And where you find the chance to be active, take it. But you don’t have to do it all the time.

rugbyyogi
8 years ago

@cynicaloptimist

they have to maintain that cognitive dissonance to allow themselves to support him

Maybe that’s a little bit hopeful, for if they have to deny who he is – then there is a sense of shame.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

In Seattle they’re planning a Black Lives Matter Not Black Friday event. I’ve never been shopping on black Friday, but I’m considering going to this.

Cynical Optimist
Cynical Optimist
8 years ago

@rugbyyogi

They didn’t fight me on it after I repeated what Trump said, but I don’t know if that means anything.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
8 years ago

@Cynical
I know what you mean. The entire night I had to play professor to my ignorant roommate. I fucking hate Devil’s Advocates when frankly he should get the point by now, that I know more about how fucking terrible this is and he should shut the fuck up with many times I shut down his naive ass views.

“Two wings of the same bird.” What a perfect sentiment for those who want to carry a toxic bag. “We’re all a little bigoted like Avenue Q said.” Avenue Q doesn’t openly advocate gay conversion therapy. “No one said Trump was racist until he ran.” Parker boys, tenants and more links to shut him up. “This is what the people wanted” This was what the uneducated and educated bigoted white men wanted, a damn fascist.

I try not to sound elitist but frankly, in this case between naive ignorance and hateful ignorance I don’t know which I hate more.

Leo
Leo
8 years ago

Do you think it is cognitive dissonance, in general I mean rather than this specific instance? I used to think that, I don’t any more, I think it’s deliberate, a tactic – ranging from just maintaining wilful ignorance, to lying (they know it makes them sound bad to admit to being racist), to outright gaslighting attempt. They just do it too often, and Trump pulled the same thing watching the debates, and for all it comes across as unpolished, even makes them look ignorant, it’s actually very effective (…can’t beat a pigeon at chess). The fact I’ve seen them understand perfectly when it suits them, even trying to use progressive concepts against us, suggests they do in fact get it, they just pretend not to.

I just think their tactics mirror abusive dynamics too closely for it to be an accident.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Be angry and use it for determination. I left these on Facebook.

 

I had no idea so many of my fellow Americans were so comfortable with a racist, sexist, molesting, lying, con artist sack of crap.
 
I’ve not once seen anyone close to me offer a remotely good reason to vote for Trump. Either Trump was worse on whatever measure they were whining about, or no one could link to any information that supported what they whining about. I guess a lot of people really respond to someone who talks big and tough but has nothing. His buisness record alone is enough for me to rule them suicidal.

I have lost a lot of respect for a lot of people over this election season. When I see someone try to claim values that support for Trump obviously shows to be a lie I will rub it in. I will not forget.

***

I spend a lot of time holding myself back. Maybe it does not seem like that, but I do. That has to change. I don’t come to Facebook much because I don’t like seeing people I care about believe, think and act on such dysfunctional things divorced from reality. I just watched some of those people vote for a candidate that seems to go against what they portrayed themselves as believing in.

The benefit of being a socially impulsive person is that you can set a social tone. A lifetime of controlling intense things gives you knowledge about them. Enjoy the Trump victory party, it’s going to get a lot more unpleasant.

Republicans set their own social tone when it came to throwing a social tantrum and shutting down government processes that relied on a vote (budget, appointments…). The voting and approval process available to them was not good enough so they broke some unwritten social rules. It’s time to break some unwritten social rules of our own. This victory will cost you with every bigoted and xenophobic action that the Republicans and the Trump administration takes.

I’ve not seen any Trump supporter able to defend any specific argument beyond feeling and because the group says so. I will take full advantage of the fact that bigoted rumor-mongering is the way of things among Trump supporters.

If anyone feels the need to defriend me as a result I understand.

 We have work to. I’ve been isolating and processing long enough.

Sarah
Sarah
8 years ago

[CW: burning irony]

I click Scildfreja’s link to Keith Olberman’s “The Closer” for today, first I get the ubiquitous YooToob Ad… for “The Urban Carry G2; concealed carry holster”… (gotta get me one o’ THEM)… with the following “tag” line:

Americans have never faced a threat quite like the one we do today
Oh, Mr. GunGrabScare… you have NO FUCKING IDEA….

I laughed bitterly at the end of that video, where he usually says “watch this space” – this time it was “watch your backs.”

I hope that doesn’t mean he won’t be putting out any more commentary because I’d really missed hum after he got fired from MSNBC, but given the Orange One’s scary rhetoric about journalists and his past record of using the apparatus of power to go after those who oppose him, I suppose I couldn’t blame KO for leaving the country and/or going into hiding until 2020 or 2024.

Weird (and stunned) Eddie
Weird (and stunned) Eddie
8 years ago

@ Leo;

I think it’s deliberate, a tactic

It is. These people know what they’re doing. The Cheeto offered them something they’ve wanted since the Civil Rights Act… a chance to publicly abuse people who don’t look and act like them, and have it not only be socially acceptable, but be rewarded. Yeah, sure, they’d like them some economic advantage (on the side, of course), or maybe some other advantage, but the primary draw of The Cheeto is bigotry. They see it as a chance to “thumb their noses at Political Correctness” again. Howling Idiot Rush Limbaugh was commenting on the Harvard Soccer Team “scouting report” scandal, saying that treatment of women in that manner is “just human nature” and should be ok. THIS is what the Trumplings get with a President Cheeto.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
8 years ago

….I think I have an idea, at least for my campus. It will take work. It will take time. It will take getting OKs to stay out after curfew. It will take chalk.

But everything has to start somewhere.

Cynical Optimist
Cynical Optimist
8 years ago

@Troubelle

Nice to hear that you’ve found a cause to work towards.

Hambeast
Hambeast
8 years ago

Got Catbeast out of the emergency vet and back to his regular vet for the day at less than half the cost of just leaving him at the other place. At least that brought down my blood pressure a bit.

My head is always in a not-so-good-place when my kitty is ill; today it is pounding.

I will hide, cry, and whimper through the next few days and then I’ll be scanning for a group to join in opposition to this travesty. We’ll get by alright, the Beast family enjoys quite a lot of privilege which I hope to leverage in working to minimize damage to those with less of it.

Hugs for everyone who needs/wants them. Stay safe and care for yourselves.

Leo
Leo
8 years ago

Yeah, I think that’s it. I just read this tweet:
https://twitter.com/prachigu/status/796219846132436992
and this is coming from the *other* side. So gawd knows what the Trumplings are saying among themselves, when they think no women are listening.

Solidarity, sisters over in the US. I think you’re really going to have to stick together and challenge this very firmly, not letting them get away with it and showing we’re onto them, be brave but most importantly stay safe.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
8 years ago

@Cynical Optimist

My cause was clear. It’s the execution of the dissemination of information that’s the trick.

Cynical Optimist
Cynical Optimist
8 years ago

@Troubelle

I should have known that, really. Just my vocabulary failing again.

PreuxFox
PreuxFox
8 years ago

Also – thank you everyone who has had kind words for me today – you have helped, thank you.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
8 years ago

@Leo, that tweet made me nauseous. Brogressives are just as bad.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
8 years ago

@Cynical Optimist

It’s no trouble. I just like for people to be sure of things.

sparkalipoo
sparkalipoo
8 years ago

@Jesalin

Including people who claim that people who consider themselves tolerant must tolerate intolerance otherwise they are intolerant hypocrites.

Oh my god I hate that argument so much, like sometimes it’s’ only reasonable to get angry

Dalillama
Dalillama
8 years ago

@Commas
I meant to attribute that, but I was in a hurry and forgot. That’s from Eco’s Fourteen Ways of looking at a Blackshirt.