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Anisky, that’s awful! I can’t pretend to understand what you’re going through, but please don’t kill yourself! I hope and believe that things can get better for you.
Anisky, drop him an email and I’m sure he’ll give it to you. I work at home now because my depression makes working outside the home impossible. I can also possibly give you some leads to get your med costs reduced and give you some tips on getting through the nightmare of social services.
I can’t promise you incredible wealth, but I manage enough to pay my bills and occasionally indulge my hobbies.
I am so disappointed in my country. I am angry at the people who decided to vote ‘their conscience’ and go 3rd party, I hope their conscience is happy when they see what Trump has in store. His plan to fix our infrastructure? Privatize it all. He will first reward himself, then he will reward his ‘friends’ (how much richer do the 1% need to be? how much more can the republicans screw us over? we’re about to find out.) and then he’ll turn his attention to the ‘revenge list’. There are leaders in other countries who have been waiting for an opportunity like this (Putin, for one…) and see Trump as a ‘useful idiot’.
I am not afraid for myself, and I am not afraid of President Trump – I am afraid for what this will ultimately cost American men and women of color, our Muslim Americans, our LGBTQ Americans, and the hard-won progress that we’ve been making despite the endless fights to stop us by angry white men. We cannot give up and roll over, we will stand our ground and they will have to pry the rights we have fought for and the progress we have made from our cold dead hands. Trump may be president but we don’t have to let the hate and oppression actually win.
@Anisky
Please don’t do anything to hurt yourself. Simply existing and getting some enjoyment out of your life can be a big “fuck you” to the fascists. Remember that there are people who love you and you’re worth something.
Lots of people went to top schools and did well but don’t have a full time job with benefits. Just focus on surviving for now. There are usually options you’re not aware of, and therapists don’t know everything.
@Anisky, as somebody who has also struggled with suicidal ideation, please just wait. Call the number Dalillama posted, and wait. The world is a shitheap right now, but I still have faith that, eventually, better angels will prevail. We can, and will, make the world a better place. And for the moment, we just need to look for the joy in it. Because despite the election of Trump, despite Brexit, despite everything, there is joy in it.
@Anisky
Please, please don’t hurt yourself. You are valued and you are important, and the world would be a poorer place without you, whether you realize it or not.
I suffer from anxiety and depression, too, though in a less severe form. I know it’s not much, but if you ever need to talk, I want to listen.
Also, where is the “off” button on this damn text-riddled computer screen separating us so I can reach out and give you a big hug?
@littletaeo
This feels appropriate:
http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/362/3627313/3071362-7998395212-63995.jpg
Like, what even the hell? Why do privileged people have this incessant need to identify with villains? The Joker, Littlefinger, and their ilk are evil characters who do awful things to “shake things up”. You cannot pretend to be a decent person if you make choices that could very well mean life or death (mostly for people who aren’t you) just for shits and giggles.
@Cleverforagirl
How do I get him to give me your email?
Anisky, send him an email through the site, he should be able to give it to you, if that doesn’t work I’ll post a temp email so I can give you my real email that way.
I feel sick. All my mammotheer friends stay safe tonight and for the next few days.
I know they are different systems, but there are things you can learn from places like Australia, things you can do for the long haul. When you are ready to think about it and if it’s safe. For now, look after yourselves, all of you.
I’m sorry if this comes across wrong, I desperately wish there was something I could do.
So I woke up this morning…
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Will the great Cthulhu rise now, or the good time sloth go viral*?
* Reference to to comicbook series “Memetic”
For anyone who this might help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp6ueTYd2bE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwL7xUC6LqQ
If anyone needs me to be an email go-between (or just needs a friend), my spam trap email address is spam trap email @ gmail.com (but without the spaces.) If David’s asleep I’m happy to help.
@Anisky:
If you need to talk to someone, please don’t hesitate to make me that someone. I went through a period in my twenties during which I could have written exactly what you just wrote, and reading that brought the memory of the pain back.
All my love and all my support.
ANISKY: Please ride this out. Remember you can’t trust your brain right now. That voice telling you everything is dark and will never get better? It’s lying. It’s a lying liar who lies. It’s only strength is it’s ability to co-opt your thoughts and feelings and make it’s pronouncements very, very, very believable. I don’t know your situation but I have experienced distorted perception and feeling one way when the truth is another. Please trust me. It’s actually, literally, objectively not over.
We don’t know yet what will happen to health insurance (Trump can’t actually do half of what he claims, and oh there will be marches), and even then there may be people or clinics who can help you. Don’t let Trump be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Remember that probably a majority of people were voting against Clinton, not for Trump, and even those who did vote for him didn’t all do it out of bigotry. Perhaps you need a break from exposing yourself to the hateful underbelly out there? Too much exposure to sites like this can warp your estimate of the average person (yes, even if Trump got elected). I had a nice chat in the voting line with a conservative old white guy who was equally dismayed at the polarization and lack of moderation.
There’s good in this world, and it’s worth fighting for! And by that I mean you. Your life and future well-being are worth fighting for.
BTW, you’re using something your therapist said to confirm a Despair-bias. That’s that evil despair voice again.
It’s not true that you can’t get a full time job with a 2 year gap. What the **** is even that? I just got through a mock interview/employment help event recently, and I had similar concerns. They told me all you have to do is explain it. You can say “I had health problems, now that I’m doing better I want to get back in full time” or whatever. They don’t disqualify you just because there’s a gap. You’re not even unemployed! You’re good. Therapists aren’t gods who know everything. Successful nonprofit managers and business leaders know a bit more about hiring.
For right now you might have to just go through motions and not feel anything good. But just hang on, please. You’ve made it this far. There have been times when I didn’t know how I could move forward or things could ever get better, but I did and they did. But it only happens if you brace yourself and hang in there. Bless you
I am expecting a package and didn’t check the mail today. I thought, “Well at least if it’s there it’s ONE good thing I can show for today.” Plus I wanted to do something normal. Not rational, I know, but it was something. I drive to the mailbox, realize… doh, I’d grabbed TWO car keys and not the mail keys. I’m so in shock and disoriented I didn’t even notice, even though the lanyard for the mail is completely different and it’s obvious (or should have been obvious.) So I just drove back. Idk what to do to not feel bad about tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_u9Hc0Yg1o
Lurker. For whoever needs it.
Today the forces of enlightenment and progress have taken a blow but this a Dunkirk not Waterloo and we must turn it around the next four years will be a trial but progress can only be hobbled not stopped
It’s really hard to say whether Herr Drumpf bears any particular disdain for minorities (probably not), but whether he “means it” or not, he courted the worst elements, is now beholden to them and a lot of people will be justifiably scared. It’s really quite hard to imagine this, living here, even our center-right government (ugh) is fairly liberal as far as minority rights are concerned.
Anisky and ej I just sent an email to ej with my info.
@littletaeo
Right there with you. I was at work a few hours ago and was making the same types of mistakes myself. Thankfully I got out of there before the announcement was made. Now, I might just go back in a couple of hours simply to stay busy and occupy my mind with something constructive. Then again, maybe not. I work with a bunch of Republicans, they’re bad enough on normal days but I’ll bet they’re going to be insufferable for at least the next few.
Hey, all. Don’t know what to say, but I got to say something. We have people here who are giving up on life and believe me I understand. I can’t, tho. I walked out of the school my freshman year in high school with a small number of others to support the Moratorium protest against the war in Vietnam. That was 1969, I was 13. It was fucking hard, and afterwards it was fucking bad. Scary bad, for the rest of high school. I’ve been fighting beside you people and people like you for social justice ever since, and, yeah, most of the time I feel like we’ve been losing. Maybe we have. I don’t want to fucking do it any more. I don’t want to fucking do it any more. But I have a black granddaughter who is 13 and a black grandson who is 6 months old. I HAVE to keep trying. WE HAVE TO KEEP TRYING.
Anisky, I hope you’re still here. We need you. We need each other. Even if each other is all we have, WE DO HAVE EACH OTHER. These things change, they get better, because people like you keep speaking up. Maybe now we go into the night, but LET US NOT FUCKING GO QUIETLY.
@Anisky
My email is my nym at gmx.us. I don’t know how much longer I’ll be awake tonight, but if you need an ear, a message there will reach me soon.
@Bryce
How do you fucking figure that? Seriously, do not pull this shit tonight.
Trump won. No one who matters thinks women matter. I officially quit feminism. We can’t win. It’s over. Progress is dead. We have nowhere to go but down. The sooner we accept that, the sooner we can accept our inevitable fate of being cooking, cleaning, birthing blow job machines. It’s OVER.
@Anisky
Delurking to say please keep fighting. We all need each other right now. I have been where you are, and I know how hard it is but things can get better.
Also, it is no true that you can’t get a full time job. I had a 2+ year period with no work and now I have a full time job, it is possible. And if you can work part time, you can use that on your resume too and get back to full time.
To everyone, stay safe.
/Relurking and virtual cuddles from my cats to anyone who wants them
Maybe Trump will end up being like Evan Mecham. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has skeletons in his closet that result in criminal charges being filed against him. If so we’d end up with Pence as president. But anyone who’s above a certain age and survived Bush should be able to survive a Bush clone like Pence, too.
FOR FUCK’S SAKE, were you WATCHING?????? If he had ANYTHING ELSE IN HIS CAMPAIGN besides disdain for everyone who isn’t white, cis, het male christian, I MISSED IT.
edit… Hell, he had nothing but disdain for people who ARE white, cis, het male christian