Leave it to the deep thinkers of the Men Going Their Own Way community to ask the tough questions that no one else dares to ask.
For example: In the future, when men are reduced to 5 percent of the population and forced to flee to Mars or Venus, will the sentient robots ally themselves with men or with women?
In the MGTOW subreddit, an aspiring futurist calling himself FalloutFan2 laments what he sees as the inevitable rise of a gynocentric dystopia in which men are more or less bred out of existence, except for a tiny minority that the women keep around for sperm and giggles.
“It’s sad how everything in modern society is already gearing towards a female-only future,” FalloutFan2 notes wistfully.
I think there will come a point where all men rebel against the system and form their own colony on Mars or Venus or whatever, where we’ll bring some female sex-bots for entertainment.
It’s rare that I find myself agreeing with anything I read on the MGTOW subreddit, but if you guys want to go start a MGTOW colony on Venus I will not only support you but help you pack.
Of course the women will just keep using their dildos because they are emotionless beings who care little for actual interaction, whether it be sentient robot or human.
I have to admit that “women are emotionless automatons who prefer dildos to robots because they don’t like talking to people” is a stereotype I have not encountered before.
Do you think the sentient robots will ally themselves with mankind and not womankind?
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I think that due to their advanced intelligence they will not see a possible future where they could be on equal footing with women (due to the female’s natural inclination to boss everyone around), so they’ll settle for a society where they are equal to men.
I’m pretty sure sentient robot ladies would kick you guys to the curb as quickly as actual human females. Especially since two sentences ago the only sentient robots you were interested in were of the sexy sex slave variety.
Of course, if we do all end up on Mars, women will just eventually send nukes to destroy the colony regardless, out of bitter spite (if they figure out how to press the correct buttons that is, but typically some beta male nuclear scientist would have left blatant instructions beforehand that even a toddler would understand).
Ha ha ladies can’t even nuclear holocaust men right!
Women just can’t handle the fact that men just want to be happy.
Well that’s a bit of an ironic statement to find on the MGTOW subreddit, to put it mildly. I can’t think of a group of men less interested in being happy, or more inclined to wallow in their own bitterness, than MGTOWs.
They can’t comprehend that men are satisfied with an existence of philosophical stoicism, and not artificially superimposing different contrived existentialisms on reality. Either no one but them can be allowed to be happy, or no one period.
Unfortunately, due to this reason I don’t see any possible way it could work out. Women will just kill themselves off once all the men are gone anyway, cuz there’ll be no one to listen to their nagging bullshit.
Better get yourself an agent quick, FalloutFan2, because this sounds like the greatest science fiction novel never written!
pot meet kettle. Unless copypasting MGTOW screeds onto feminist blogs counts as “actual interaction”
No idea how ‘blogs’ autocorrected to ‘boys’…
Also: imagine the self-loathing it takes to assume that even sexbots that they design for themselves to be everything to them that real women can’t be will still find them repugnant and want to destroy them.
I think whatever sounds like a fine place, fellas. Sorry I won’t be coming with you, but I’m all for you “going your own way”. Far, far away.
However, I’m curious about how this would actually work. Remember, these fellows are going to be in open rebellion against “the system”. Yet given actual climactic conditions on Mars, not to mention Venus (!) or…whatever…a space colony on one of these places isn’t exactly something you’re going to be able to throw together in a few space craft and set up like tents once you reach the destination. It’s not like getting in your car and going on the lam to Mexico.
I also like how he adds “and we’ll bring some sexbots along for entertainment”. Anyone who was stupid enough to think they could throw together a colony on Mars without relying on the Earth authorities for some kind of logistical support would not have to worry about lack of sexual satisfaction for very long. Nor would they need to worry themselves about those “scorned women” sending nukes after them.
It’s been a while since I studied the Stoics, but I don’t recall whingeing about how other people “won’t let them be happy” being a part of the philosophy of Stoicism.
@Paul Beaulieu:
IKR? Stoicism is all about developing tranquility by identifying those parts of life you have no control over and training yourself not to worry about them. If MGTOWs truly believed their bizarre doctrine that women are the root of all evil and that this is a condition of the world, what are they doing dwelling on it? Isn’t that what “going your own way” is supposed to entail?!
Also, the Stoics were big on not wallowing in negative emotions. They realised that humans suffer from them as a matter of course but they urged people not to dwell on them, to move on. The MGTOW habit of congregating on Internet forums nursing each others’ grievances like a bunch of people with toothache huddled around poking their inflamed gums is about as diametrically opposed to Stoicism as one can get…
Ah, look at me, trying to apply logic and reason to these guys and their twisted “philosophy”. It’s a game of pigeon chess for sure.
Roughly summarized as:
“waaaaahhhhhhhh!!!! You’ll miss me when I gone!!!”
Definitely got your priorities straight there, bro.
This is a new level of petty. They’re robots! Why would they care about your sexist bullshit, migtoes? They’re above this. You’ll be lucky they don’t try to wipe us out or use us as living batteries. That would be the worst case scenario. Maybe they’ll be quite reasonable and understanding. Whatever AI awakening scenario i can think of, this shit isn’t even a factor.
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants:
QFT.
Still, I guess we have to give them points for novelty: isn’t their usual complaint that women are inscrutable, hormonal, emotional monsters who say they’re fine when they’re not and then they cry and why can’t they be rational and agree with me and my friends on the Internet who’ve demonstrated from first principles that Libertarianism is the only logical economic model it’s so unfair?
@Cat Mara: Yeah, I thought the general consensus over in the manosphere was that women are too emotional to do anything on their own, too. Now we’re like robots, only worse? Somehow?
Just…
http://www.fredandlorisnyder.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/hamster.jpg
Yeah?
(CW: the following comment contains sarcasm)
I gotta ask… I been reading David’s ‘blog for a few months, n I really hate to be so credulous, especially among (virtual) friends, but I gotta ask…. David, ARE YOU MAKING THIS S**T UP??? No one thinks like this… it’s just not possible to be so self-absorbed, so disconnected from reality and so freakin “sexually entitled”…
…
is it??
I’m very happy to see an article picture I actually recognize. It’s Magnus Robot Fighter from Gold Key Comics!
Which is far cooler than the loser FalloutFan2, who I’m ashamed to share a common interest with.
@Frigid Virgin
Shorter MRA: “Menz are better than FEEEEEMALES because they’ll hold conversations at their mechatronic Fleshlights”
If I may toot my own trumpet for a moment: one of the last times that whole “soon we’ll have teh sexb0ts and then you’ll be sorry!” MRA/ MGTOW meme came up, I started thinking about the idea of a sexbot and the potential unintended consequences of such a thing (assuming there’s even any other kind of consequence that could possibly follow from creating them), so I wrote this. Share and enjoy. Or not; it’s kind of depressing. ?
@P.I.:
It’s actually from Magnus: Robot Fighter – which has to be the best title of a comicbook title next to Turok: Dinosaur Hunter.
@ Nick name Nick
Wow, there’s a blast from the past!!
“… squeeeeeeeeeee!!!!”
I would happily help these gentlemen get into space if they wanted to. That’s partly because I would help anyone get to space, and partly because space is probably the best place for them.
I can’t help with a Mars colony though. That’s a little too expensive. Let me know how it goes, and best of luck!
@Jesalin
I guess you could say they’re all “B” Ark…
… And no bite.
@Cat Mara,
http://rebloggingdonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/shocked-cat-211212.jpg
(just read your little creation you linked to)
I especially liked the ‘crazy companion lady’ 😀
@Axe,
MGTOWs probably do try to copypaste their screeds onto actual feminist boys, to be fair. I have a feminist boy upstairs somewhere – I’ll go ask if anyone’s tried to paste a screed on him lately.
@Mish
Hanging around with the wrong crowd, eh? Go to him. He needs you more than ever in this difficult time *nods solemnly*
Actually, he hasn’t been watching enough. The “No Ma’am” club was a joke and meant to poke fun at idiots like Al Bundy. Unfortunately, real world idiots didn’t get the joke and thought “No Ma’am” was something to aspire to.
They even did an episode where Al’s favorite TV show, “Psycho Dad”, was threatened with a boycott and Al wrote in to the star of the show to support him, because Psycho Dad was his hero. The star responded by saying no one was supposed to consider Psycho Dad a hero and since some people do, the actor was no longer comfortable doing the show and quit.
Whiny, self-indulgent Stoicism.
Unoriginal.
Again, watching too much Married With Children as actual satire is lost on some people.
@Cat Mara – I like it. Could be the basis for an interesting short story.