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“Red Pill” director Cassie Jaye hits a new low with her appearance on a white supremacist podcast

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Odd couple: Matt Forney and Cassie Jaye

Filmmaker Cassie Jaye seems to have developed a weird affinity for bigots.

First, she cozied up to some of the most hateful figures in the Men’s Rights movement during the filming of her documentary The Red Pill.

Then, when her funding for the film ran out, she happily accepted financial assistance not only from the actual subjects of the film but also from a motley assortment of far-right ideologues — among them a notorious quasi-journalist who was famously tossed off of Twitter after his fans barraged Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones with racist abuse, and a delusional Trump superfan who literally believes he gave Hillary Clinton the flu with his mind. (After a big donation to Jaye, he got himself an associate producer credit on her film.)

Now she’s trying her best to drum up interest in her film, which has barely drawn any notice at all outside the overlapping spheres of alt-right lady haters and MRAs since it premiered at a New York theater earlier this month.

While The Red Pill got a glowing, if rambling, “review” from new pal/volunteer fundraiser Milo Yiannopoulos at Breitbart, and a somewhat less-enthusiastic thumbs-up from Cathy Young at the right-wing internet tabloid Heat Street, the two real film reviewers who’ve bothered to give it a look have panned it.

Katie Walsh at the Los Angeles Times took issue with the film’s “uncritical, lopsided” argument, complaining that Jaye “twists herself in knots to justify the movement’s misogynist rhetoric.” The Village Voice’s Alan Scherstuhl dismissed Jaye as an inept “propagandist” and warned potential viewers that, as the headline to his piece put it, “You Can’t Unsee ‘The Red Pill,’ the Documentary About a Filmmaker Who Learns to Love MRAs.” (His review of what he described as an “agonizing” film caused much wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst the MRA crowd.)

With little hope of attracting positive attention from film critics, and apparently desperate for any publicity she could get, Jaye agreed to appear on the podcast of an internet-famous bigot who has been described by one critic, not without reason, as “THE MOST WARPED USELESS PEICE OF SH*T THAT I HAVE EVER HAD THE DISPLEASURE TO ENCOUNTER [on the] INTERNET OR ELSEWHERE.”

I am talking, of course, about the rape-excusing, abuse-encouraginglady-hating, gay-baiting white supremacist Matt Forney — he’s the one on the left in the photo below.

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/787198238575120384

She didn’t just give Forney a couple of minutes of her time; she sat down with him for roughly three-quarters of an hour for his podcast “This Alt-Right Life.” It’s a singularly unedifying discussion. At one point she mentions that she used to get into arguments with her boyfriend every month about nothing, something she now jokingly blames not on PMS but on her (former) feminism.

Badump-tsssh!

She also expressed sympathy when Forney mentioned that he himself had been the victim of a “false” rape accusation. (Imagine that, the author of a blog post titled “Why Girls Rarely Mean No When They Say No” being accused of rape!)

Not that long ago, Jaye was by all appearances a staunch opponent of pretty much everything Forney and his alt-right pals stand for.

In 2012, she released a documentary titled “The Right to Love,” which, according to its description on IMDb, is the portrait of a “Californian married gay couple and their two adopted children,” fighting against the forces of “discrimination, ignorance and hate” who would deny them their right to marry and raise children.

Now she’s appearing on the podcast of a guy who is a virtual embodiment of this ignorance and hate.

It’s not as if evidence of Forney’s despicable views is hard to find, and not just in the WHTM archives. The name of his podcast contains the phrase “alt-right.” In the list of “popular posts” highlighted in the sidebar of his blog one finds such lovely titles as “How to Crush a Girl’s Self-Esteem” and “Why Fat Girls Don’t Deserve to Be Loved.” (Neither title is meant ironically.)

And then there is the endless stream of racist, misogynist and homophobic abuse that is his Twitter account. Some highlights from the last several days:

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/790064680907792386

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/790364983171354625

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/790367816360857601

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/790050589598162944

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/789976518596362240

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/789633067791122432

That last tweet — a reference to Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet’s practice of murdering people by throwing them from helicopters — is technically a death threat, aimed at a National Review writer who has gotten many such threats from Forney’s colleagues in the alt-right, including photoshopped images of his 7-year-old daughter being gassed in a Nazi death camp.

Are these really the sorts of people Jaye wants to align herself with?

In his “review” of The Red Pill, Milo claimed, without evidence, that a virtual army of feminists was “scrambling to stop Cassie Jaye” and her film. In fact, feminists have mostly ignored The Red Pill. And the person who has done the most to damage Jaye’s credibility is, well, Jaye herself.

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Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@David Hamster
To nitpick, Palace Cinemas operates 13 theaters in Australia. They were convinced to pull TRP by just over 2000 petitioners. Here’s what you said was “not the case”:

In fact, feminists have mostly ignored The Red Pill

Being charitable, to disprove the above, either those 13 cinemas or those 2000 petitioners would hafta account for “most”. That is, in Australia, there’d hafta be no more than 25 theaters or 3999 feminists. In the whole country. Given neither of those is true, the statement stands. Feminists, as a group, have mostly ignored this movie

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
8 years ago

@ Fruitloopsie, Skiriki: thank you for kitty pics.

@ David Hamster:

Actually, this is not the case. Here is a petition that successfully persuaded a single small cinema group that screening of the Red Pill in their Australian cinemas would be commercially unprofitable.

FTFY.
The movie has not been banned here, don’t be so ridiculous as to suggest that a commercial organisation responding to customer feedback violates the free speech rights of movie makers.

ETA: Ninja’d by Axecalibur!

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

So, like. Between “Australia banned GTA,” “Australia uses the c-word, so it’s okay if I do too” and now “Australia banned TRP”… Does it not occur to them that actual Australians can debunk their crap just as fast as they can shart it, or do they think we don’t have Internet access down here, or what?

And if Hamster Dance doubts my credentials as a for-realsies Australian: This morning, a huntsman spider crawled into my bag to escape the Spring heat, and I spent a solid hour fawning over how small and fluffy he is. The defense rests.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

Also, dude, David is ferrets, not hamsters. Get it right.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Alan
Oscar is a beautiful boy. He looks a lot like my girl kitty — large, gray, fluffy, and differently abled.

She’s missing a leg.

And Oscar’s missing an eye. What happened? I have a feeling it was a fight — no wonder you hand over your wallet!

Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Kat

He’s from a shelter so not quite sure. But he’s clearly had an interesting past. He’s quite a friendly chap in a mildly disdainful way. He generally plays it cool though.

“Yeah, it’s piece of string. So?”

But every now and then he drops his guard and his inner kitty sneaks out.

“Well ok, I’ll chase this dot a for a while; but remember I’m only doing this for your benefit”

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

I know it’s not recommended (for safety reasons) to dress cats up in costumes for things like, well, Halloween….but ohmygod Oscar would make the best Pirate captain! Or a Bond villain!

I’ve been working on making my dog a tutu outfit so she can be a ballerina this year. Whether as a finished item it stays on very long has yet to be determined, but the mister and I have high hopes for it staying on her long enough to get photos and for a grand entrance at the party we’re attending!

yay i can post stuff
yay i can post stuff
8 years ago

@SFHC

Also, dude, David is ferrets, not hamsters. Get it right.

Wait, I thought he was cats?

Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ msexception

I know it’s not recommended (for safety reasons) to dress cats up in costumes for things like, well, Halloween….but ohmygod Oscar would make the best Pirate captain! Or a Bond villain!

Heh, I know it’s not quite what you meant but after an attempt to do exactly that for a Christmas card, well, let’s just say Oscar nearly wasn’t the only person missing an eye.

Safety reasons indeed.

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
8 years ago

Late after a good night’s rest.

@OoglyBoggles

Flower crowns are actually one of the cheapest things you can make to restore sanity in DS. You’ll make a lot of them….

@Scildfreja

this is basically Don’t Starve.

….What is? I don’t think that embedded right.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Alan
Well, Oscar is adorbs — in an impressive sort of way, of course.

My cat is from a shelter too, so we don’t know for sure what happened to her right rear leg. But she was born in 2000, and I know that there was a new, problematic rabies shot at that time. The right rear leg is where that shot is given, and a certain percentage of cats became paralyzed in that leg after that shot. So there’s a cohort of feline millenials stumping around.

She does okay, though. She can jump up on the bed, although it’s more of a grab with the claws and pull the body up kind of move, rather than a smooth, graceful leap.

numerobis
numerobis
8 years ago

apologizes by rubbing her head against me, hugs and ‘boops’ me without me telling her, she’s really nice

Awwww. Mine needed to learn it.

I didn’t train them not to tear my pants to shreds when they sit in my lap and knead, but such is the price of cuteness. (I did convince them that getting a manicure is not the worst thing in the world, but sometimes claws get sharp overnight.)

Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Kat

I wholeheartedly approve of rescuing animals from shelters. I’m usually quite laissez-faire, but I would ban pet shops and breeders, at least until all shelter animals had a home.

It’s always amazing to see how animals overcome adversity. I like the cut of your kitty’s gib. And who needs graceful? My general attitude to all things is it’s about getting the job done, not how you look doing it.

Weird (tired of the right-wing-nuts) Eddie
Weird (tired of the right-wing-nuts) Eddie
8 years ago

@ SFHC;

This morning, a huntsman spider crawled into my bag to escape the Spring heat, and I spent a solid hour fawning over how small and fluffy he is.

You bad…!!!! YOU… R… BAAADDDDD!!!!

O_o

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

I love spider too. I hesitated to became a biologist specialized in spiders.

Then again, one can make me flee in abject terror with slightly modly bread, so it’s one fear exchanged for another.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
8 years ago

@ yay i can post stuff

Wait, I thought he was cats?

You are technically not wrong. I do believe the most widely accepted theory is – or at least at one point was – that David Futrelle is, in fact, a bunch of ferrets dressed up as a bunch of cats dressed up as David Futrelle.

I can’t remember on what evidence this theory was based, or how the idea was conceived in the first place, but other than that, it makes perfect sense.

Simon Hales
8 years ago

@Turan

Jaye apparently throwing out everything for which she once stood, and getting nothing in return but a little attention from human garbage, reminds me of the moment in A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS in which Thomas More learns that his chief accuser has been given a government post in Wales: “For Wales? Why, Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?”

Hey, Wales is the only part of the world worth having 🙂

Olive O'Sudden
Olive O'Sudden
8 years ago

What I don’t get is why Forney seems to favour pictures of himself taken from angles that highlight the truly weird shape of his skull. He looks like a Star Trek alien.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Olive O’Sudden

Trust me, we don’t want to revisit the question, Is it cricket to critique an MRA asshole’s looks?

No, no, no.

Cutting to the chase: On WHTM, it is not.

That said, it can be a challenge not to criticize everything about these individuals.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Alan

I wholeheartedly approve of rescuing animals from shelters. I’m usually quite laissez-faire, but I would ban pet shops and breeders, at least until all shelter animals had a home.

Yes!

It’s always amazing to see how animals overcome adversity. I like the cut of your kitty’s gib. And who needs graceful? My general attitude to all things is it’s about getting the job done, not how you look doing it.

She’s an extremely courageous little girl. And she might not be graceful but she’s inordinately fluffy.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

Most of our kitties have been shelter kitties, except for the ones who walked up to our front door in need of a good home, or the litter brothers who were born to a friend’s cat. Their mom was a recently adopted stray who turned out to be (as we half-joked) an unwed teenage mother, and she was due to be spayed the week our friend discovered she was pregnant.

Simon Hales
8 years ago

@Alan

The famous case of the translator and the automatic “Out Of Office” email reply 🙂

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm

Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Vicky P

I’m probably peaching to the converted here; you’ll no doubt know all about how interacting with animals speeds and enhances recovery (and is just beneficial anyway).

Interestingly it doesn’t seem to be a placebo effect; cuddly toys etc don’t produce the same results.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3408111/

(Hope your recovery is speeding along btw)

ETA: @ Simon – Yup 🙂

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent
8 years ago

As a related aside, there’s a new cat walking around our campus. A tan tabby-topped fellow.

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