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Alt-Righters respond to debate with rape jokes, conspiracy theories, intimations of violence

Winning!
Winning!

In the real world that you and I live in, the general consensus is that Hillary Clinton won last night’s debate. In the world inhabited by the alt-right and its fellow travelers, Trump crushed the evil Hillary even though she had help from a secret video screen hidden in plain sight on her lectern, possibly installed by George Soros himself.

Here, highlights from the Twitter feeds of some of the better-known alt-right Trump fans (and their fellow travelers).

First, some dispatches from alternate universes:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/788992551650889729

https://twitter.com/ReactionaryTree/status/789059736922648576

https://twitter.com/ConCanadian/status/789136577586876416

https://twitter.com/WhiteGenociders/status/788934321189126144

Some Red Pillers hailed Trump for allegedly being a psychopath:

https://twitter.com/Empireanalysis/status/788998872060297216

There were, of course, an assortment of conspiracy theories:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/788967788253581312

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/788924320886185985

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/789083009265700865

Couldn’t possibly be light reflecting off of the polished wood of the lectern. Must be Hillary using her SECRET DEBATE LIFELINE.

Some tried to gin up new fake controversies, like Hillary’s allegedly TREASONOUS revelation that America’s nuclear response time is … very short!

https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU7/status/789126925809688579

https://twitter.com/sbeckwilliams/status/789115842332073984

https://twitter.com/altrightwarfare/status/789141517378158592

TREASON! It’s not as if this was already widely known or anything oh wait never mind.

The lovely Matt Forney weighed in:

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/788924608640589824

Dude, in that pic Trump’s teeth are exactly the same shade of brown. Because the picture is dark and the colors are off. In most pics, her teeth look fine (as do Trump’s).

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/788930922448031745

Er, what? Metamucil is a fiber supplement. What relation it has to napping I have no idea.

Also, she doesn’t look tired. Just tired of Trump’s bullshit.

https://twitter.com/basedmattforney/status/788932118801940480

But of course. How could Matt possibly discuss the debate without making at least one rape joke.

Some alt-right Trump superfans were thinking beyond the election itself:

https://twitter.com/DrDavidDuke/status/788936357234126848

https://twitter.com/thebasedviking/status/789116096670490624

Er, land?

https://twitter.com/ReactionaryTree/status/787544349064175616

https://twitter.com/DonaldjBismarck/status/788947850948284416

And finally, a thought from the biggest idiot of the bunch:

The debate was RIGGED, I tells ya. Rigged!

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Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@Bina, wrt to that ricky hashtag, you’re quite right

Bina
4 years ago

@Mish, thanks. I thought he sounded familiar. (They all sound alike, i.e. AWFUL, so that kind of stands to reason.)

kale
kale
4 years ago

Im not excited about Hilary. The main thing I hate is that both Bill Clinton, who will be given power if she wins, and Trump are rapists & creeps.

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

I was not excited about Clinton until recently. She has won me over bigly. It’s her wonkiness, her just incredible level of competence, her choice of advisors, and the cat gifs. But mostly the first three.

Example: The recent email leaks include one of her staffers trying to stick O’Malley for pledging decarbonization by 2050. Podesta quickly replies that O’Malley is promising something only slightly beyond what’s absolutely necessary (refers to 80% by then to avoid 2C, which is the number given by the IPCC).

Podesta is going to get a top position, so the fact he has the facts at his fingertips like this speaks well for our upcoming batch of ruling lizards.

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

Oh, and another thing going for Clinton. She didn’t sugar-coat the abortion question, discuss religious people’s hurt feelings, and use euphemism after euphemism. She just laid out a case for why abortion must be legal.

JoeB
JoeB
4 years ago

I didn’t expect much from the charity dinner/roast they were both speaking at tonight, they both have plenty have plenty of experience talking to a room full of rich people. HOWEVER!

Trump bombed, was repeatedly booed, quite possibly wrote his own material or at least was deeply involved in it.

Clinton did very well, got some good jabs in at various people and even one at herself clearly not have written her own jokes.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

I’m excited because I’ve been following her career since the mid ’90s. It’s a fascinating thing to study from a feminist point of view – by this point, she’s probably more qualified than the 43 previous presidents combined, and yet half the damn country would still rather vote for a racist, incestuous, paedophilic, treasonous rapist and conman for no other reason than “Penis good, vagina bad*.” She’s worked her ass off twice as hard as any man for half the recognition (and ten times the moronic conspiracy theories) for over thirty years, and when she finally smashes the ultimate glass ceiling, I’ll cheer like a drunken soccer hooligan. No joke, I’ve already ordered the American flag party hats and blowers.

*Obviously, not all men have penises and not all women have vaginas, but we’re talking about a Trump voter’s POV here.

Nidi
Nidi
4 years ago

I started out the election disliking Clinton for her reputation as a DINO-esque centrist. But my disposition towards Hillary has greatly improved over the course of her campaign – particularly from her debate performances. I like her stances on social issues and domestic policy. Establishing a very positive relationship with Bernie post-nomination helped a great deal.

I still harbor a great deal of skepticism regarding her foreign policy: I’m not fond of her belligerent, overly-eager track record when it comes to military intervention.

I’m wary of her fiscal policy due to her history as a centrist and too-close-for-comfort relationship with Wall Street. But I do like the plans she’s currently pitching for tax reform; I’m holding out hope that she delivers on them.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

apologies for all the posts, but this is so brilliant – a Mexican architectural firm asked interns to design a possible wall for closing the border:

The hot-pink design, inspired by the buildings of a Pritzker Prize-winning Mexican architect, will “allow the public to imagine the policy proposal in all of its gorgeous perversity”

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‘ALL OF ITS GORGEOUS PERVERSITY’ AHAHAHAHAHAHA

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
4 years ago

Nthing Nidi’s response. At this point for me is waiting and seeing if she’ll deliver on her statements rather than revert to her old points pre dem nomination.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
4 years ago

Well if you want to see a pissed off Trump, here’s a gif.

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Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

@Handsome “Punkle Stan” Jack
That trailer landed in my inbox this morning – it’s indeed very very pretty. No idea about anything else yet, but it looks amazing 🙂

Same here, but there’s speculation it might be about a young John Marston running with the gang. Kinda wouldn’t mind some young Landon Ricketts though.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

I don’t really buy into the idea that Hillary is so uniquely qualified and experienced. There have been plenty of former Presidents with massive experience and great qualifications. However, she’s definitely a cut above average (and a world above Trump).

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Echoing Nidi and OoglyBoggles, I’ve gotten kind of excited about Hillary lately. (Thank you, Bernie Sanders, for pushing her to the left.)

She does seem to have some good domestic policies now.

But she’s still a hawk and a friend of Wall Street.

My hope is that she will remain amenable to being pushed leftward. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren seem to have good relationships with her. Fingers crossed.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Like other women I’ve read about, I found Trump’s performance in debate number 2 alarming in a personal way.

The looming over Hillary.

The angry, threatening facial expressions.

The stalking.

The chair humping!

Some members of my family made me all too familiar with this behavior.

I was triggered.

And in a way it was positive. I saw it. The nation saw it. People are talking about it. So I may have been triggered, but Mister Trump can’t gaslight me.

(Good grief, humping a chair — in front of the world! And if it wasn’t humping, why did it look like humping!)

Isn’t that the ancient aphorism about Caesar’s wife — not only does she have to be above humping a chair, she has to appear to be above humping a chair? Something like that.

***

@OoglyBoggles
That gif of angry Donald Trump — I wonder if that’s how he looked that time he tore out Ivana’s hair and raped her. The next morning, he asked her coldly, “Does it hurt?”

Chaos-Engineer
Chaos-Engineer
4 years ago

Wait, is the picture of Hillary with a gun supposed to be *negative*? It’s not even an ugly caricature; it looks more bad-ass than anything.

My interpretation is that a gang of bored right-wing hooligans has decided to attack the peaceful worshipers at the neighborhood mosque. And it’s just their bad luck that they picked the day when Hillary Clinton was coming by to meet with local community leaders.

I would *totally* see the movie that this is a poster for!!!

the_real_Nick
the_real_Nick
4 years ago

@Imaginary Petal

I don’t really buy into the idea that Hillary is so uniquely qualified and experienced. There have been plenty of former Presidents with massive experience and great qualifications

I’m very curious about those candidates. I honestly can’t think of any with a resume like Clinton’s except for George H.W. Bush.

Aunt Podger
Aunt Podger
4 years ago

“Alt-Righters respond to debate with rape jokes, conspiracy theories, intimations of violence.”

Shocked. I’m shocked.

One day, I would really like to see “Alt-Righters respond to [anything. A freaking sandwich recipe] with grace, poise, logic, and constructive good humor.” I bet Mr. Futrelle would be happy to write that headline… if he could find a relevant topic. Oh well. Maybe in another 160 days or so.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@the real Nick
Taft was Vice Pres, an ambassador, Secretary of War, and Chief Justice

Jefferson held almost every damn office he was eligible for under 3 regimes

Van Buren was a judge, state Senator, state Attorney General, US Senator, Governor, Secretary of State, ambassador, and Vice President. Clinton has been 2 of those things (3 kinda)

If you wanna get more modern, then Herbert Walker is our most qualified since the last realignment with Clinton tying or coming in a close 2nd. All time, she’s on the low end

Besides, of the 4 Presidents mentioned in this post, only 1 of em was any good at it. Qualifications and credentials matter, but it’s not everything 🙂

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
4 years ago

So apparently there’s a new wing of the manosphere: Calvinist “complementarians”. These are the people who don’t like the implicit egalitarianism of mainstream evangelical churches; they think evangelical churches are “feminized and sissified”, and they would rather worship a Jesus who saved us with his “sanctified testosterone”. Some of them are starting fight clubs in church.

And at least one of them is honest that yes, the reason he’s not voting for Hillary is because she’s a woman. He doesn’t even try to hide behind policy arguments.

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2016/10/17/how-men-like-john-piper-and-dave-daubenmire-will-kill-complementarianism/

You might want to add The Wartburg Watch to your blogroll. That’s where you go for the scoop on these guys.

There’s definitely a parallel between these guys and the alt-right. They’ve even been infiltrating and taking over existing churches, which is a bit of a Trump/Bannon entryist tactic.

With PUAs, MRAs, MGTOWs, and now CCs, that makes four….

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
4 years ago

Oh and there’s also a fringe element within this new Calvinist movement that also endorses racial segregation (the so-called “Kinists”) or at the very least romanticizes the Confederacy. So yeah; alt-Calvinist is a very good descriptor for these folks.

eli
eli
4 years ago

@Axe

Wasn’t Taft Supreme Court Justice after his term as president?

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

Just dropped by to say I’m still alive…oh, and to echo Nidi’s sentiments about Hillary. Also, any Tweeters on here? Check out the hashtag #TrumpBookReport…trust me, it’s freaking hilarious!

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@eli
You’re right! Leading me astray again, school! One of those things you remember so specifically, ya never think to double check. Thanks for the correction, buddy 😀

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@Kat, whenever you mention your family, I want to find you and hug you or give you a big roll of bubble wrap <3

@VioletBeauregarde – well shit, there goes my afternoon. I was trying to choose a favourite from #trumpbookreport but just kept reading. Bestest ever.

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
4 years ago

By the way, I actually wrote two posts above (about the Calvinist manosphere) but the first is still awaiting moderation. In case any of you saw only the second and wondered why the heck I was talking about Calvinism.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

I want to try some of my own, but meanwhile here’s some good ones:

12 years. You were a slave for 12 years and in all that time, you did nothing. You did… NOTHING. For 12 years, folks!

The Hunger Games are rigged, folks. Everyone knows Katniss won because she played the woman card. Nasty woman. Very rigged

damn you, Violet! *shakes fist, goes back to Twitter*

eta @Hu’s on First: saw both of yours; disturbing, tremendously disturbing stuff. Oh halp.

Nequam
Nequam
4 years ago

On a completely irrelevant note: anyone else watch that new Rocky Horror Picture Show on Fox?

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

@Mish: *evil chuckle*

Note to self: Don’t trust any gum Mish gives to me.

Here are a few derived from the book which has my namesake:

“That Veruca was a nasty girl…she clearly had blood coming out of her where-ever”

“Wonka had some good ideas but mine are so much better…for starters, I’d build a YUGE wall and the Oompa Loompas would pay for it”

“That Charlie kid? Way too soft! What was Wonka thinking in giving him a factory? Think he could last a week against the competition? Sad!”

“Violet? She gained a massive amount of weight…it was a problem”

“Augustus…there’s a person who likes to eat. There are some people, like me and like him that eat too much when under stress”

“Say what you want about Mike, but that kid sticks to his guns! He is most likely to make America great again.”

This is one derived from A Whole New World:

“Street rat?! Why doesn’t little punk just get a job, I bet he’s really a jihadist…and his mom? She is no beauty even though she tries to act queenly. Bunch of losers!”

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

@Mish: What’s your Twitter handle?

guest
guest
4 years ago

Twitter tells me the thing on Hillary’s podium is a vanity light–which makes sense if you look at the side-by-side pictures; Donald has a shadow under his chin and Hillary doesn’t. I don’t know if having one is a matter of personal preference or a masculine/feminine thing (i.e. men with wrinkles and shadows look older and ‘more serious’).

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@Violet,

it’s @MishMei
I don’t tweet, myself – I just follow, like, and lurk.

I love those Charlie book reports 🙂 . You still owe me an afternoon, though!

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

I’d give you one but it ate mine up too…I was merely spreading the virus

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
4 years ago

Trump has really built a base out of the more conspiratorial fraction.

It’s also entirely possible that his weaknesses and proclivities (especially the racist crap) have led him into the clutches of a bunch of obsessed weirdos. Being so self-centred and oblivious, he couldn’t even tell if he was being manipulated.

http://video.gq.com/watch/the-closer-with-keith-olbermann-maybe-trump-is-really-a-victim-in-all-this?c=series

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
4 years ago

Nidi

I like her stances on social issues and domestic policy. Establishing a very positive relationship with Bernie post-nomination helped a great deal.
I still harbor a great deal of skepticism regarding her foreign policy: I’m not fond of her belligerent, overly-eager track record when it comes to military intervention.

I’ve actually been digging and delving into her issues page – I’ve even read several of The Briefing links on some of the specific policy pages. All pretty good. You can sort of track her long-term commitments to women and children’s welfare, health and education. You can also see her determination to get the various things that she proposed as senator 10+ years ago but which failed to proceed to legislation done as president.

As far as her “belligerence” goes, you have to remember what happened internationally during the 90s while Bill was president. Bosnia. Rwanda. The UN, the whole international community and, from Hillary’s perspective, the US in particular, failed to act in time to prevent truly horrendous genocide and ethnic cleansing. (For those too young to remember, in Rwanda they killed almost a million people in 100 days.) That had a big impact on her according to someone I read the other day. No one can say that quicker action on the USA’s part back then could or would have made a lot of difference. But it’s easy to see how someone in her position would want to avoid that helplessly-standing-by feeling in the future.

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
4 years ago

Oh wow. This is fantastic.

I just went over to watch Rachel Maddow’s latest show and she has a clip of a former SC justice talking about America’s democratic processes.

Watch it.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/perils-of-eroded-civic-knowledge-forewarned-790540867791

BaronJenks
BaronJenks
4 years ago

@ Chaos-Engineer too right!

I’m picturing a film where Bill has been kidnapped by international arms dealers to try to blackmail her, and she thinks there’s a mole in the Secret Service so can’t go to them for help, so she goes on a brutal, no-holds-barred rescue mission, and ends up in a fist fight with the head of the gang on top of a building and punches him backwards over the edge and lands in a dumpster and she says something like “Time to take out the trash” and then her and Bill kiss in the rain.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Nick

Yeah, what Axe said.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
4 years ago

Thanks for the detailed response, Alan.

I didn’t actually know about nuclear missile submarines. Big boys, fancy toys, it seems.

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
4 years ago

@ Chaos-Engineer, Baron Jenks, I too would consider a ticket to that blockbuster to be money well spent.

If I could expand your proposed plot a little though, Baron Jenks:
See since the kidnapping, Hillary’s chums have been suggesting to her that her spouse is a cheating lying scumbag and she should maybe grasp this opportunity to get him out of her life with clean hands and public sympathy by just letting things take their course.
Of course, she says “Hell, no!” and rescues him.

Denouement scene, after punching the chief baddie over the edge and into the dumpster, instead of ending with a kiss in the rain, she turns to Bill, says something like “you’re safe and you’re free now. When we get home… Pack your bags, because you are out of my life. Forever.”

That’s a movie I’d pay more than once to see. Especially if the end credits played over a montage of first female US president ‘divorce raping’ her husband, and the alt-right Manosphere not knowing who to side with. (Neatly setting up the scene for the sequel).

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

Oh Jesus, has anybody else seen this bit of hilarity? Even Trump’s donation ticker is fake.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@SFHC

That is amazing. Is there anything in the world this guy won’t fuck up?

I know it’s been mentioned in other threads that Trump’s campaign has been illegally asking for donations from UK politicians. Plenty of Swedish politicians in the European Parliament and elsewhere have also been targeted with pleas for donations.

It’s pretty incredible that his superfans still fall for the Crooked Hillary catch phrase, in light of all the blatantly illegal activities Trump is guilty of committing.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Mish

@Kat, whenever you mention your family, I want to find you and hug you or give you a big roll of bubble wrap <3

I appreciate the sentiment, Mish. Hugs and bubble wrap are always welcome!

@Violet B
Welcome back!

@BaronJenks
Kickass plot. And then kissing in the rain! Breakfast at Tiffany’s comes to mind — but your female lead is a bit more empowered than Holly Golightly.

(I adore Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Audrey Hepburn was so charming. But I’m still angry that her character put her cat out in the rain. Not to worry! That cat gets rescued. But I haven’t forgiven the movie maker. Not gonna.)

@Croquembouche of Patriarchy
Your female lead is even more empowered!

Nidi
Nidi
4 years ago

In case anyone has not seen it yet, y’all really need to check out Trump and Clinton’s speeches during the Al Smith charity dinner.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/21/al-smith-donald-trump-entire-speech-ac-sot.cnn

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/21/al-smith-clinton-entire-speech-ac-sot.cnn

Make sure to watch Trump first. I know it’s unpleasant, but power through it and it’ll make Clinton’s speech so much better.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

Good pitch, BaronJenks, but could Hillary have Elizabeth Warren as wisecracking sidekick? I’m looking for some Bechdel compliance here.

BaronJenks
BaronJenks
4 years ago

@Moggie – good plan! Warren as a wisecracking yet cynical associate, shooting look-outs one after another with a sniper rifle whilst Clinton breaks into the gang’s warehouse, making deadpan comments over the radio the whole time.

Regarding the Bechdel Test, we’ll going fully the other way. The only named male character will be Bill – all other men in the film will be anonymous waiters, secretaries or bar workers. Maybe we’ll have one young male sex worker fall in love with Clinton, just to show to the audience that she’s still got it.

Weird (and wishing the election were today) Eddie
Weird (and wishing the election were today) Eddie
4 years ago

all the blatantly illegal activities Trump is guilty of committing.

@ Kat

This is a staple of the ignorant right (hmmm… can I coin a new term for them: “igno-right”…?) that “we know it’s technically illegal, but we have to do it, it’s the only way to save the country from liberals/globaliss/race mixers or name that threat”

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
4 years ago

BaronJenks:

What about the gangsters; will they be women too?

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

As many mistakes as the Trump campaign has made in the general, I think him saying he might refuse to concede will end up proving to be the worst. With Trump already being down in the polls before the final debate, having the media put all its focus on whether or not he’s going to be a sore loser is not a good look for him. It’s kind of hard to imagine that the people who are somehow still undecided will want to vote for someone who’s cast in the ungracious loser role before all the votes are even cast.

I’ve also noticed lately that we’ve stopped getting the Bernie or busters who plan to vote Jill Stein in here. I haven’t seen it much elsewhere either. Did a lot of them finally get that Trump is so awful you simply cannot claim equivalency between the two?

Weird (and wishing the election were today) Eddie
Weird (and wishing the election were today) Eddie
4 years ago

With PUAs, MRAs, MGTOWs, and now CCs, that makes four

… (forgive me Lord Disney of Kiddiecartoon, I cannot help myself… )

Oh, my, but I feel a SONG comin’ on….

“PUA, MRA, MGTOW… Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse… forever let us gripe, complain and whine… (whine, whine, whine!)”