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Hillary Clinton is pushing an insidious cat GIF agenda

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In a speech yesterday, Hillary Clinton admitted what many have long suspected: She is an advocate of cat GIFs.

After reciting a litany of the horrible things Trump has said, she declared that his divisive rhetoric

makes you want to turn off the news. It makes you want to unplug the internet. Or just look at cat GIFs. I get it… I’ve watched a lot of cats do a lot of weird and interesting things. But we have a job to do and it’ll be good for people and for cats.

My own research has confirmed that one can indeed find many GIFs online featuring cats doing “weird and interesting things.”

Here is some of what I have discovered:

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Feel free to share your own research in the comments below.

Or just us this as an OPEN THREAD to talk about whatever!

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Catalpa
Catalpa
3 years ago

@Luxbelitx,

I’m sorry that so many awful things are being done to women and girls in South America. I hope that your voices are heard and that change can be made!

Is there anything that those of us outside of South and Central America can do to help?

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

It’s been a while since I posted any cat photos, so here you go:

http://i.imgur.com/w7LE4Kd.jpg

I need to take an old backpack and stuff it with cotton so she can have her own bed and leave my backpack alone. 🙂

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

Catching up on the conversation a little… I can’t pretend to have great advice to share, but my heart definitely goes out to everyone getting through hard times.

@LG: Well done sticking to your guns and getting a safe space for yourself. I hope your gentleman friend gets the help he needs, but you’ve definitely gotta look after your safety first.

@Ooglyboggles: Naturally, I might be in completely the wrong ballpark, but my first idea would be suggesting to your dad something along the lines of “I appreciate your spoiling me, but how about we do something simple and relaxing to have some quality time together.” Grab some sandwiches and sit somewhere nice for a picnic, something like that.

Re: doges: I regard the political figure from a Mediterranean city-state as an entirely separate linguistic entity from the lovable canine trying to pronounce its own name.

Re: 30: Having turned 30 relatively recently, yeah, it was no big deal. Much less traumatic than the transition from early to mid 20s, for instance.

Luxbelitx
3 years ago

@Everyone

Thank you for your responses, I promise to keep spammi… uhm… updating you 😀

@Catalpa

There certainly is! (Sorry for the copy/paste, we’re overwhelmed here haha)

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numerobis
numerobis
3 years ago

Re: 30. For me, 32 was the hard one. What had I accomplished in my five bits of life? I was such a failure!

I got better.

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@Luxbelitx
Solidarity!

Re: Age
I have lots of feelings about age, for lots of reasons, many of which relate to my transition. I’m also noticing that I when I get injured, I stay that way a lot longer these days.

Re:my mother
She didn’t take it as badly as she could have, and we’re going with a combination of her buying stuff for me and financing some of my own purchases. She’s also doing a lot of passive aggressive cic bullshit, which I’m just putting up with because at least she’s trying.

I kind of understand her demand to have some input into what clothes she pays for, but at the same time, I don’t actually like her taste in clothes very much, and she’s not very good at listening to what I do want. And also just being kind of controlling, and it’s pissing me off. Particularly, she seems fixated for some reason on the idea that I need jeans and slacks.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Dali

She didn’t take it as badly as she could have

🙂

She’s also doing a lot of passive aggressive cic bullshit, which I’m just putting up with because at least she’s trying

http://cdn.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/giphy.gif
Can’t even imagine. Sending love <3 <3 <3

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Dali
My mother was the same way about buying clothes for me but because I’m fat (so it’s obviously not the same but still very emotionally damaging). I don’t go clothes shopping with her at all now. It’s been probably 20 years and it still hurts me to think about. All the cat gifs to you.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
3 years ago

@Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger:

Parliamentary system is wild, yo…

Well, yes. The most powerful person in the country is what in the U.S. would be the House Majority Leader, and the structural equivalent of the U.S. President (the Governor-General) has next to no actual power and rarely acts without the Prime Minister’s request.

Re: Voter Initiatives
While I live in Ontario now, I grew up in British Columbia. British Columbia politics has a long history of weirdness (one of the earliest politicians there officially changed his name to ‘Amor de Cosmos’), and it is one of the few jurisdictions in Canada to officially allow such voter initiatives.

This came up a few years ago when B.C. tried to transition to a ‘Harmonized Sales Tax’ at the same time as Ontario did. Fundamentally the HST means that the federal government is responsible for actually collecting both federal and provincial sales taxes, and then it remits the provincial portion back to the province; this is mostly the same as is already done for income taxes. From the province’s standpoint, this means accepting a slight delay in getting the money, but no longer needing to have their own collection and enforcement people.

So B.C. was halfway through transitioning to this when ex-Premier Bill Vander Zalm (only the second person in Canadian political history to be actively thrown out by his own party) started rabble-rousing and convincing people that their taxes were going to go up as a result of this, and managed to successfully lead a public referendum go get the changes reversed. So now B.C. is exactly where they were before, minus the expenses of running the referendum and having to reorganize their tax departments twice.

On the other side, Ontario completed its transition to the HST, the previous PST-specific exemptions were kept in the HST, and things have for the most part gone on just as before.

So, yeah, public voter initiatives are a horrible way to make policy, because the public can often be swayed far too easily by short-term fear-mongering.

(I see from the Wikipedia page that Vander Zalm is also now a chemtrails truther. I wish I could say I were surprised. This is a man who, before he was elected, had a political cartoon done of a cartoonist at his easel praying ‘And I’m sure all of us cartoonists down here would be ever so grateful if you’d let Vander Zalm win’…)

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Jenora
Totes interesting!
And I’m glad we have a President. Paul Ryan in charge of the country? Haha, no…

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@Axecalibur:
It would have meant having Nancy “Badass of the Century” Pelosi in charge of the country. That would have been nice, especially for the people of Iraq. Paul Ryan and John “The Orange Overlord” Boehner are probably too high a price to pay though.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@EJ

Paul Ryan and John “The Orange Overlord” Boehner are probably too high a price to pay though

And Denny Hastert and Newt Gingrich (speakers) or Tom Delay and Dick Armey (maj leaders). Not worth 🙁

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

I take my dad clothes shopping with me. He doesn’t give me shit for shopping for shirts in the men’s section, and he at least tries to call me by my real name, all in contrast to my mother.

Viscaria
Viscaria
3 years ago

@PoM, congratulations on your promotion!

Speaking of British Columbia (@Jenora mentioned the province, so this totally counts as a speaking of which), has anyone heard of the #RenameBC project, as proposed by Lawrence Paul Yuxweluptun, an artist of Coast Salish and Okanagan descent, and presented by the Museum of Anthropology? Yuxweluptun points out that the name is a direct reference to the colonization of unceded First Nations land, and that it should be changed.

They’re taking submissions from the public. I hope that they have someone filtering out the inevitable deluge of racist ones.

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@Axe, Kupo
Thanks

@PoM
I don’t really see shopping with my dad happening; he’s much more the sort of person who’d just give me some money and tell me to find my own damn clothes. And given that it practically takes physical violence to get him to wear anything besides white t-shirts, battered khakis or sweatpants, and a layer or two of flannel shirt in the cold, I can’t say that he’d be wrong to do so.

@Jenora Feuer
Eugh, voter initiatives about taxes. Prop 13 in California and Measure 47 in Oregon both put a (very low) hard limit on property taxes, and more to the point on property tax increases, with the upshot being that many properties in California are still being taxed based on their 1980s value, and in Oregon their 1990s values, despite the ecnomic changes that have happened since then, to the great detriment of both states’ ability to maintain appropriate infrastructure.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Halp! My boss keeps changing the conversation to how he thinks everyone needs to be logical about the whole Trump vs. Clinton thing and how we can’t really know if Trump assaulted those women anyway so it doesn’t really matter.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Mish
I don’t feel like that explains the problem well enough, tbh. He’s a stubborn one, and he thinks he’s objective so you really have to spell out what he’s communicating to women when he says shit like this.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@kupo, yeah I know – I was being facetious 🙂
First Dog usually preaches to the choir, but he does it so adorably. Just thought it might make you smile. Sorry!

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@Kupo

Halp! My boss keeps changing the conversation to how he thinks everyone needs to be logical about the whole Trump vs. Clinton thing

And I absolutely agree. There’s really no option at all; unfond as I am of her politics, Clinton is a literally infinitely better candidate than Trump by absolutely any evidence based judgement. That’s totally unrelated to him being a multiple rapist. Even if we totally ignore his criminal acts, he is anti-qualified. He doesn’t merely lack expertise on relevant topics, he actively shuns it. What few solid policy proposals he’s shat out range from ludicrous to disastrous to both at once (he wants us back on a gold standad ffs! The man has literally zero clue)

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Mish
Gotcha! I would actually share it with him because humor actually would be an effective way to get him to listen but it would have to break it down a lot further.

@Dali
He seems to think taxes are the only thing anyone should vote on because he goes back to that every single time (I believe I mentioned before how he actually compared raiding taxes to taking rights away). He’s actually said he is voting for Clinton but he’s apparently very bitter about it and very bitter that people are so upset over what is, to him, “just politics.”

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
3 years ago

Life would be so much easier if I were a Republican.

Professor: You never handed in your paper.
Petal: Can we focus on the issues?

Otter: You ate the last cupcake!
Petal: No. I didn’t.

Boss: You were late to work yesterday.
Petal: So was your husband!

Doctor: And what’s your height?
Petal: I’ve been hearing a lot of 5’9, 5’10, 5’11. A lot of people say it’s 6’1, it could be as high as 6’4. So it’s at least 6’1, but frankly I think it’s probably 6’4.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

Oops. *raising, but I kind of like raiding.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Petal,
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ETA: no idea why they’ve put a hyphen in gold star, but I’m supposed to be working so no time to make my own for you 🙂

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@kupo

He seems to think taxes are the only thing anyone should vote on because he goes back to that every single time

Then he’s thrown logic straight out the window, I’m afraid. Unfortunately, he’s got his head way too far up his ass to be convinced of that; I genuinely don’t know how to get through to people like him

Diptych
Diptych
3 years ago

How does that even work? The populace can’t be trusted with any political decisions… except the collection of revenue that is the absolute foundation of any and all other government activity?

Catalpa
Catalpa
3 years ago

^It’s because taxes are the only way that a government actually interacts with its citizens, of course! Governments just take money away from hardworking men who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, and then waste the money on useless things like welfare or laws (and occasionally on good things like the military, but that almost never happens.) Governments are functionally useless! All the infrastructure that society relies upon just HAPPENS, without any need for installation or maintenance or funds. Roads are just rocks in the ground, and you have to PAY for water and electricity, so that doesn’t count. Garbage pickup is gross, so it doesn’t matter how that works. So long as it’s not in one’s backyard, they won’t care. And stormwater just drains away from their homes and businesses all by itself, without any infrastructure in place to manage it and prevent flooding.

The only thing holding back (white, non-poor) men is the government, taking their money for all this useless shit! That’s why the most important issue is taxes, because it’s the only thing that actually affects them anyone!

/sarcasm

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

Oh no! What ever will the alt-right do now that their beloved frog has turned against them, claiming that they forced him to be a symbol of hatred?!

Pepe the Frog creator launches campaign to free meme from Trump supporters

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pepe-the-frog-donald-trump-presidential-election-meme-hillary-clinton-tweets-a7366291.html

Kat
Kat
3 years ago

@Imaginary Petal

Life would be so much easier if I were a Republican.

Professor: You never handed in your paper.
Petal: Can we focus on the issues?

Yeah, must be nice to take no responsibility for yourself.

Which is what they always say the left does. Project much, Republicanz?

Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
3 years ago

This just popped up in my newsfeed:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/why-we-need-to-plan-for-a-future-without-jobs/ar-AAj3zz4?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Some of you may find it interesting. I suspect that those who would are already familiar with everything in the article, but…

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Thanks, it was a good read. I’ve been saying for years now that the 40 hour work is becoming obsolete and we need to do something about it. The wealthy are happy to shut their eyes and allow and encourage people to scapegoat immigrants, feminism, welfare users etc. But they need a stable society to safely retain their wealth, so ultimately clinging to the status quo is a losing strategy.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
3 years ago

@Wwth
And the conservative commenters didn’t even read it with common comments of muh commies and muh government takin muh money and “protestant work ethic is the default I’m totally not ethnocentric.” The Prosperity Gospel is the biggest non religion in the US and honestly the most problematic.

Yeah keep parroting that, I’m sure the elite Protestant bishops and those with the money and political power over the US will surely grant you rewards for your loyalty.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

And the article isn’t even saying people shouldn’t work! Just that the economy and how we compensate work and how we think of work is going to have to change along with technology. The 40 work week becoming obsolete =/= everyone sits around eating bonbons!

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

The 40 work week becoming obsolete =/= everyone sits around eating bonbons!

Sadface.

But if all the men aren’t working 40-hour shifts down the mines, where will people get their bonbons?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

But if all the men aren’t working 40-hour shifts down the mines, where will people get their bonbons?

Blonde women with wheat running through their hands will pick the bonbons from the fields, the way God intended, while men race by in their high-tech maglev trains.

Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
3 years ago

@WWTH: you’re welcome. I sort of wonder if we might be coming closer to some society where people are allowed to do whatever work they find fulfilling, but I’m very much afraid it won’t happen without a century or two of global meltdown.

@OoglyBoggles: Excellent point on the comments. I try to avoid them if possible.

@EJ: One thing Oogly said that you might be able to help me with: what is the relationship between ‘protestant work ethic’ and the ‘prosperity Gospel’?*

* I’m asking you because you’ve mentioned being raised in the Calvinist tradition on other threads, and as I recall, ‘protestant work ethic’ was once ‘puritan work ethic’, so you may have fuller knowledge of it than I would.

Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
3 years ago

@IP: I just read the above page of comments, and you’re post about ‘I wish I was a Republican’ was awesome. Thank you.

Boo
Boo
3 years ago

@LG,

I don’t know about how to help, but for understanding purposes, there are a few things to realize about child sexual abuse dynamics.

People often say that abusers know to target the most vulnerable children. This is true, but it’s not because they have some kind of detection ability. What they do is scattershot groom all the children they engineer access to, and back away from those that threaten resistance.

Then they simultaneously spoil and abuse their chosen targets, leading to a jealous/uneasy feeling in the other children, even if they are unaware of the specifics of the abuse, because they see the “favouritism” (yes those are scare quotes)

So even the ones not targeted become part of a dysfunctional family of sorts, resentful or confused or just hurt.

I think he *should* get individual therapy with you being separated, so he can get on with working through his issues, every day he doesn’t delay is another day he gets back for *his* life.

It’s great you’re getting on with your life and independence, and make sure to only give what you *can* (says someone who burned out on giving too much to others myself)

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

Mom has come and gone, leaving me with several new sweater dresses and considerable annoyance. As predicted, she still consistently failed to address or refer to me correctly, while simultaneously gender policing like hell. A very stressful visit altogether, but at least I have something warmer to wear in the coming season.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
3 years ago

@Dalillama
Well if it makes you feel any better the sweaters won’t judge you.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@Joekster:
I was raised in the Reform church, yes, but neither of those terms is something I was raised to believe in. What follows, therefore, is my best understanding of them from without rather than from within.

Kootiepatra would be a better person to ask.

The Protestant Work Ethic is best understood as an anti-Catholic slur which is used to suggest that Catholics (who are predominantly from poorer parts of Europe and, in America, from less privileged groups) are poor because they’re lazy. If only they worked as hard as Protestants, goes the reasoning, they would be as wealthy as them. In this respect it’s not dissimilar to the old “black people aren’t disadvantaged, just lazy” canard. It’s a fairy tale that a privileged group tells itself to justify its own privilege.

In South Africa we didn’t really have Catholics, so this wasn’t really a thing. Lots of Calvinists do believe in it elsewhere, however. As always, religion is a very local thing.

By contrast, the Prosperity Gospel is something believed in principally by Charismatic Christians. It says that God will reward the faithful with material gains in this life; indeed, that a lack of material well-being must indicate a lack of faith. If this feels to you like victim-blaming, or feels like it’s set up to let wealthy ministers justify their opulent lifestyles, then you’re not entirely wrong.

One must understand, however, that the Prosperity Gospel comes from a Christian tradition in which believers are encouraged to switch churches and ministers until they find one that they like. As such a sort of Darwinian pressure can be said to exist, in which churches tailor their sermons and messages to coincide with what people want to hear. If you have a choice between hearing about a God who will reward you with bliss in the afterlife, and a God who will reward you in this life with a flatscreen TV, and you pick the latter along with enough co-believers, then a sect will form and you’ll find a minister to preach that to you.

I’m not going to bash this too much, partly because it’s many people’s sincerely-held belief, but mainly because it’s a belief that’s strongly coded Black where I come from, and I don’t want to be the White guy attacking Black stuff. However, I will point out that it’s basically anathema to Calvinism as I was brought up to understand it.

Calvinists believe in a God who is a) unpredictable and b) not swayed by the actions of His believers. One of the absolute core beliefs of Calvinism is that you cannot bribe God, nor sway Him from His predetermined course of action. This belief grew up as a reaction to medieval Catholic corruption and the sale of indulgences, which requires its marks to believe that one can in fact bribe God, but also makes things like the Prosperity Gospel very difficult to incorporate theologically.

That isn’t to say that people haven’t done it, of course. Christianity leaves itself very open to being interpreted to justify what the interpreter was going to do anyway.

Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
3 years ago

@Dalilama: that sounds frustrating. I don’t have any real advice, just sympathy to offer.

@EJ: Thanks for chiming in. I’d always wondered if ‘protestant work ethic’ was meant as a form of Catholic shaming. I didn’t know that the prosperity gospel was ‘coded black’ in South Africa. In the US, it seems to be largely Caucasian, although it doesn’t really pay to generalize anything over here.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@Dali
Ooh! Love sweater dresses. That is, I would rather eat one than wear one, but they’re cute 😀

she still consistently failed to address or refer to me correctly

TFW somebody get they fuckery pointed out, get in a mood about it, and then go right on doing that same shit

simultaneously gender policing like hell

This face right here actually:
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Lotsa Hearts!

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Bacon | October 15, 2016 at 4:10 am
Urgh. Mild derail but can I just say how much I hate the “Hillary’s husband is terrible so she is terrible” narrative.

When I hear that, I usually respond with “Well, I won’t vote for Bill Clinton then.”

Just as a subtle reminder of who’s actually running.

kupo | October 17, 2016 at 9:54 am
@Dali
My mother was the same way about buying clothes for me but because I’m fat (so it’s obviously not the same but still very emotionally damaging). I don’t go clothes shopping with her at all now. It’s been probably 20 years and it still hurts me to think about. All the cat gifs to you.

My mom was the same too. It’s gotten to the point where I get really nervous and paranoid when I go clothes shopping, even by myself. I can’t handle not finding anything in my size, and then all the fat-shaming comes flooding back. I don’t like going clothes shopping with her, or anyone else in my family for that matter. (Not for all the same reasons though. One of my aunts is awfully picky about everything, and while she and one of my uncles have pretty good taste, they’d still never buy me anything I’d actually like to wear on a regular basis.)

What makes it worse is when my mom tells me she’s losing weight, and I’m not in a position (financially or otherwise) to do the same thing, and it’s like she’s making subtle jabs at me to do the same.

Or when my grandma saw me have a bowl of pudding (that she made, by the way) after dinner (my only meal that day, and for a few days before as well), she told me that I was “gaining weight” and I needed to stop eating so much.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@Dalillama, kupo, Paradoxy:

This cat thinks you’re awesome regardless of what anyone says about you:
http://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2013-10/enhanced/webdr05/15/9/anigif_enhanced-buzz-26358-1381845043-13.gif

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@EJ (TOL)

One must understand, however, that the Prosperity Gospel comes from a Christian tradition in which believers are encouraged to switch churches and ministers until they find one that they
like.
…That isn’t to say that people haven’t done it, of course. Christianity leaves itself very open to being interpreted to justify what the interpreter was going to do anyway.

I find that both of these are common in most religions (the second one’s common to all of the AFAICT), which is the sort of thing that honestly leaves me with great difficulty accepting the sincerity of people’s religious beliefs, tbh. Or, frankly, care how sincere they are or aren’t. The real question is if they’re fucking other people over with their beliefs (hint: the Prosperity Gospel invariably does). Usually, the answer to that one is yes.

I’m not going to bash this too much, partly because it’s many people’s sincerely-held belief,

So what? Loads of sincerely-held beliefs are total bullshit and/or actively harmful, and the sincerity of the believer doesn’t change that one iota. Plenty of people sincerely believe that I’m an abomination unto god who deserves to be killed painfully, and I’m gonna bash those beliefs right and left.

@Kupo, Paradoxy
*hugs* and sympathies.

@Axe
Check your email 🙂 <3

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@Dalillama:

So what? Loads of sincerely-held beliefs are total bullshit and/or actively harmful, and the sincerity of the believer doesn’t change that one iota. Plenty of people sincerely believe that I’m an abomination unto god who deserves to be killed painfully, and I’m gonna bash those beliefs right and left.

For sure, nobody should go around preaching hatred against trans people, gay people or any other disadvantaged group. I totally agree with that, and if anyone says that my friend Dali is an abomination then they are no friend of mine.

At the same time, I’m trying to back away from the style of atheism which mocks people merely for having a belief in the supernatural, and focus on the style of atheism which concentrates on opposing harmful actions. Hence, if someone happens to quietly sit at home and pray for a new widescreen television, they’re not hurting anyone and I don’t want them to feel that I am no friend of theirs.