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Trump fans spam Buzzfeed’s “Share Your Trump Story” page with rape jokes, Pepe references

That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore

With more and more women stepping forward with stories of being sexually harassed and/or assaulted by Donald Trump, Buzzfeed has set up an email address (and a Google Doc form) to make it easy for anyone with a “Trump story” of their own to contact Buzzfeed’s reporters.

Naturally, because this is the crappiest election year ever, Alt-Right Trump fans and other in Trump’s vast if unofficial shitposter army are spamming the form with rape jokes and Pepe references, and gleefully posting screenshots of the, er, hilarity on Twitter. Because what’s more funny than a presidential candidate facing numerous all-too-believable accusations from women who say that he actually has done to them the terrible things he’s regularly bragged about doing to women?

https://twitter.com/G_Germanicus/status/786611830932340740

https://twitter.com/MrJohnQZombie/status/786616227619758080

I found all of these Tweets on Matt Forney’s Twitter feed; I’m sure there are many more out there of equal hilarity.

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Julia
Julia
4 years ago

I often wonder how morally bankrupt and full of self-loathing you have to be to consider this kind of shit FUNNY.

JoeB
JoeB
4 years ago

Obviously asking the internet for feedback is a bad idea (see:HitlerDidNothingWrongMountainDew) but the deplorables live up to it so well.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
4 years ago

Drumpf has been upping the paranoid conspiracy language in his speeches over the last few days, which makes it a lot more likely that one – or many, many more than one – of his rabid fans will actually attack Drumpf’s perceived enemies when he goes down in flames on Nov. 8.

I really hope I’m wrong about that.

Please let me be wrong.

Weird (and just about drained) Eddie
Weird (and just about drained) Eddie
4 years ago

when he goes down in flames on Nov. 8

I’m actually more worried about what they’re going to do ON Nov. 8….

Weird (and just about drained) Eddie
Weird (and just about drained) Eddie
4 years ago

New York Times “declines to retract”

In a letter to Trump attorney Marc E. Kasowitz sent Thursday, New York Times general counsel David McCraw wrote, of the request that the Times retract the story, “We decline to do so.”

McCraw then laid into Kasowitz and his client, writing, “The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a ‘piece of ass.’ Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.”

WELLLLL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zatar
Zatar
4 years ago

So there big plan to make Trump look good is to show that his supporters are a bunch of liars going out of there way to stop rape victims from getting there story’s heard? Yeah you tell me how that works out for you guys.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
4 years ago

@Wierd Eddie – I want to give Mr. McCraw a standing ovation. 🙂

Nidi
Nidi
4 years ago

@Zatar This particular breed of meme-spouting online Trump support is a special case. They’re only Trump supporters by opportunity. On a more fundamental level, they’re simply trolls. They don’t care whether or not Donald wins, they just want to offend as many people and be as much of a collective asshole as they can, and Trump’s campaign turned out to be the perfect vehicle to utilize towards that end during this election cycle.

Once the election is over, (most) of them will discard their red caps and continue their harassment elsewhere. When the rat’s nest gets destroyed, the rats flee in all directions.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

Welp…

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I think if Donald Trump is going to threaten to sue anyone, it should be his supporters. They’re damaging his campaign far more than any media outlet ever could.

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

I’m trying to figure out what these assholes find funny in this. At first I thought they were trying to make some ludicrous point about the credibility of the many women who have come forward, but now I’m thinking, no. What’s mockable to them, here, is the idea that these women’s stories are worth paying attention to. I don’t think they’re saying “that didn’t happen,” I think they’re saying “who cares if that happened? It’s not like it’s a bad thing.”

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

Regarding the Trump lawsuit threat: I would like to remind all and sundry that one of the earliest things Trump said in the campaign (back in the pre-nomination days) is that he would change the law to make it easier for public figures to sue:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866

Weird (and just about drained) Eddie
Weird (and just about drained) Eddie
4 years ago

@ Viscaria

Exactly. For these people, indeed, seemingly for ALL his supporters, the appeal of Trump is the “return to 1958” when only cis-het white men mattered at all.

Bina
4 years ago

This shit’s so funny, I forgot to laugh.

No, seriously, though…I’ve gotten more chuckles out of watching paint dry.

Must have been the fumes.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

(Not a great clip, it’s a bit artifact’ey and cuts off at the end. Still.)

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I would like to remind all and sundry that one of the earliest things Trump said in the campaign (back in the pre-nomination days) is that he would change the law to make it easier for public figures to sue:

Make America great again … by removing one the most fundamental rights. This really does highlight the difference between freeze peach and free speech. Fans of the former just want the people who criticize them for being assholes silenced. They don’t care about the freedom of speech or press at.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

@Nidi

Bullshit. They’re sincere white male supremacists hiding behind a thin veneer of “Just kidding,” and brushing them off as “Trolls” for the past eight years is exactly what’s allowed them to slowly take over our online and political discourses in the first place. Trump panders to their wants and goals, not the other way around.

Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

Eh I expect this from people who literally believe thinking that wishing something hard enough makes it real. Ironic worship like all “ironic” actions turns sincere faster than it takes for eggs to go bad. They don’t really care about empathy, because that would mean addressing their complexes about superiority/inferiority. How much would I bet that most of them would justify it to some friends with “got bullied and rejected?” Not worth it, usually because no one would bet otherwise.

But more importantly, it shows exactly why these people will never have the clout to ever take over the White House, they just simply lack the ability to appeal to anyone outside their fringe hate groups when the chips are down.

@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Yea, 100% this. Decades of GOP propaganda has lead to this. There is no “irony” here, just pure spite for other people that aren’t white supremacists. I refuse the “boys will be boys” argument for cases like these.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
4 years ago

It says much about Trump that he doesn’t condemn these supporters.

Speaking of Trump fans, Vox Day decided to make his own Wikipedia, Infogalactic (“the planetary knowledge core!”), because Wikipedia is “too biased” (read: doesn’t support him). Thrill to articles lifted entirely from Wikipedia! Thrill to Vox’s article on himself, copied from the Wikipedia with minor additions! At least the Castalia House article is original, but only because Wikipedia doesn’t consider Castalia House notable enough for its own article. Be sure to check out the Alt-Right article, again copied but with Vox’s own opinions (Alt-White! Alt-West!) on it inserted. Favorite quote so far:

There is little evidence that Donald Trump has courted the Alt-Right, however, there is strong support for the 2016 presidential campaign by Donald Trump among the Alt-Right.

Ya
Ya
4 years ago

Zatar… Their/They’re/There

Know the difference.

Pretty pathetic to try to insult anyone if you can’t even speak your own language properly.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Regarding the Trump lawsuit threat: I would like to remind all and sundry that one of the earliest things Trump said in the campaign (back in the pre-nomination days) is that he would change the law to make it easier for public figures to sue:

To do that, Trump would have to literally change the Constitution.

I say this not to dismiss his threat as empty, although it certainly is. I say it to point out how little Trump knows about/likes the Constitution that his supporters claim to adore so hard. The reason it’s hard for public figures to sue for libel isn’t that there is some statute out there that forbids it. It’s because the Constitution has this thing called the First Amendment, which has this thing called freedom of the press in it.

Trump likes to shit on the Constitution at every opportunity. The people who endorse him are at least okay with that, and his fans actively lap that up. So much for the sacredness of the document!

Sarah
Sarah
4 years ago

I feel for the poor Buzzfeed intern who has to wade through all this shit. No seriously, if I had the wherewithall I’d send them some chocolate or something.

Also, it seems to me that the Buzzfeed PTB have legitimate cause to complain to the Twitter PTB about this asshole Matt Forney’s behavior, and to demand that he be permabanned.

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Ya:

Are you sincerely trying to tell me you couldn’t glean the intent of what Zatar was saying?

I’ve reposted it with some minor editing.

So their big plan to make Trump look good is to show that his supporters are a bunch of liars going out of their way to stop rape victims from getting their stories heard? Yeah, you tell me how that works out for you guys.

Is this easier to understand, now?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Zatar… Their/They’re/There

Know the difference.

Pretty pathetic to try to insult anyone if you can’t even speak your own language properly.

Critiquing someone’s grammar is definitely the best way to discuss a concept. That gets way down into the meat of things and doesn’t dance around the surface at all.

Cerberus
Cerberus
4 years ago

@Nidi

Ugh, I’m so tired of this argument. That these are just “harmless” trolls who don’t really believe this when again and again they’ve revealed that yeah, they really do believe marginalized people are awful, they are sincere in their beliefs in white nationalism, and they tend to be exactly the people you would expect to be posting this shit in earnest.

“They were just trolling” is a giant dodge that has never been a crock of shit and a way for those engaging in casual terrorism of those who are not cis white straight men to deny the consequences of their intentional actions to drive away everyone not like them.

And it should have died years ago, but especially should die in an election year where the king of these “trolls” is hired on as the election manager of a major party candidate and their actions have real election consequences.

This is the worst side of America, with a voice and access to the internet. And they are repeating all their tried and true KKK and homophobic posse tricks now through the medium of the internet.

And if we don’t take it seriously, as the terrorism it is intended to be, these dregs of society will continue to drag us down into the swamp and terrorize all those who are marginalized.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

I thought nahum galdemez was going to say Donald Trump had refused to pay Pepe for the wiring project. Now that I would believe.

Erin
Erin
4 years ago

That is exactly what I thought too Buttercup.

Leo Lee
Leo Lee
4 years ago

All these stupid fuckers in the comments.

They’re making fun of it because these claims are asinine. Buzzfeed purposely making some fill in the blank for people to “share their stories” is asinine.

Not to mention how far they’re reaching to imply violence will happen on November 8th. If I remember correctly that only significantly happened with Obama supporters last two elections.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

It is hilarious to me that so many right wingers clutch their pearls over pretty mundane pop lyrics but excuse Trump’s far more heinous words as just locker room talk, bragging, boys will be boys, no big deal.

This hurts us all
This hurts us all
4 years ago

Actually you’re all wrong. We’re offended at the hypocrisy shown by everyone who supports Hillary by instantly giving unquestioned credit to last minute claims with specious credibility, when they’ve essentially ignored the whitewashing Hillary herself has done to Bill Clinton’ victims.

Put another way, there’s as much evidence against Bill Clinton as there is Bill Cosby, and I’m fairly certain you all have a pretty strong opinion about Bill Cosby. Either be consistent in your outrage or expect the rest of us to not take you seriously.

AthVeg34F
AthVeg34F
4 years ago

Proving *yet again* that false rape reports come from juvenile, woman-hating jerks.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Actually you’re all wrong. We’re offended at the hypocrisy shown by everyone who supports Hillary

How does sending horrible rape jokes to Buzzfeed serve to point the “hypocrisy” of Clinton supporters?

How does this so-called hypocrisy excuse Trump’s behavior? Why are we supposed to ignore the accusations against Trump but hold the accusations against Bill Clinton against Hillary Clinton? You do know that Bill Clinton is not the one running, right?

Speaking of hypocrisy, Trump supporters have been absolutely reveling in his misogyny and saying misogynistic things themselves throughout this whole election. It’s a little late in the game to switch to a tactic of concern trolling about Hillary Clinton supposedly not caring about rape victims. Do you really expect us to buy this?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

*cracks knuckles*
@AskMeAboutMyWeiner
Hi Mark, get a new schtick

@Lint Licker
Saying asinine a coupla times ain’t impressive

@Everybody Hurts
‘Last minute claims with specious credibility’ vs ‘Bill Clinton’s victims’. Hmm… Methinks there’s a political aspect in Hurts’ estimations

ETA
@AthVeg34F
Ya called it!

Laugher at Bigots
Laugher at Bigots
4 years ago

Hillary is not responsible for her husband’s crimes. That’s ridiculous.

James Russler
James Russler
4 years ago

Trump has clearly demonstrated a problematic pattern of objectifying women. That is NOT okay but his supporters DON’T even care. They probably like it in fact!

Hillary is not responsible for her husband’s rapes. Also it’s crude and callous to make fun of rape victims in this manner. Rape isn’t funny, okay people? It’s 2016, almost 2017. I thought we were beyond this as a society.

Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

@This hurts us all
Those with glass houses
Should not cry hypocrisy
With rape jokes on hand.

Kay Blame Bill
But not the one running,
Much Hypocrisy.

Trump fans revel
In misogyny and hate,
Their raison d’être.

If you’re using
Bill to help dismiss rape,
You’re worse than I thought.

Jokey poetry aside, time for walls of text that you won’t bother to read, because that would destroy your strawman belief that feminists only care about victims of rape when it suits them, look in the mirror.

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/

The audio on these tapes is difficult to understand, but Clinton can be heard describing the case as “terrible.” She did audibly laugh or chuckle at points, not about “knowing that the defendant was guilty” or “getting a guilty guy off” (which makes little sense, given that the defendant pled guilty) but rather while musing about how elements of the case that might ordinarily have supported the prosecution worked in the defendant’s favor (i.e., observing that the defendant’s passing a polygraph test had “forever destroyed her faith” in that technology):

Finally, Hillary didn’t “free” the defendant in the case. Instead, the prosecuting attorney agreed to a plea deal involving a lesser charge that carried a five-year sentence, of which the judge suspended four years and allowed two months credit of time already served towards the remaining year:

Additionally, according to Newsday it was the complainant and her mother who pushed the state to make a quick plea deal rather than have the former go through the ordeal of a court trial, with the mother actively interfering in the investigation to bring about that result:

The victim says it was her mother, who had recently been abandoned by her husband, who pushed for a quick plea deal to avoid the humiliation of having her daughter testify in open court. The mother, who died several years ago, was so eager to end the ordeal she coached her daughter’s statements and interrupted interviews with police, Sgt. Dale Gibson [the department’s lead investigator] recalls.

“We both wanted it to be over with,” the victim told Newsday. “They kept asking me the same questions over and over. I was crying all the time.”

Even now, that outcome is not unusual for violent criminal charges: 2014 statistics show that 97% of criminal cases (including rape) are resolved by plea bargain, and only 3% go to trial. The ratio of plea bargains to trials was similar in 1970 [PDF].

Additionally, that 1975 criminal case came before the widespread adoptions of rape shield laws that now protect rape victims in court from some forms of questioning. A case brought in 1975 would have been subject to much weaker legal protection for the accuser than today.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/09/497291071/a-brief-history-of-juanita-broaddrick-the-woman-accusing-bill-clinton-of-rape

CNN reported that during a campaign stop in New Hampshire in Dec. 2015, a woman asked Clinton what she would say to Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones. Clinton responded, “Well, I would say that everyone should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/turning_bill_clinton_into_bill_cosby_sorry_conservatives_theres_a_massive_difference_between_their_sex_abuse_allegations/

Either way, the equation of the Clinton accusations and the Cosby accusations simply doesn’t pass the smell test. Cosby has been accused by more than 50 women of sexual assault or attempted sexual assault, and there’s no reason to think anyone would lie about it. Clinton, in contrast, has been accused of sexual harassment by Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey, and the only substantive accusation of rape, made by Juanita Broaddrick, was thoroughly investigated in the ’90s. There simply is no evidence, one way or another, to tell if this was a sincere accusation or yet another incident of a wild-eyed Clinton hater with a grudge telling tall tales of murder and mayhem coming from those dastardly and satanic Clintons. Not all rape allegations are the same. And it’s not feminists who are suggesting they should be treated that way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/lifestyle/bill-cosby-women-accusers/

Is this enough damned data for you? Is this enough to make you say “you’re right, why the hell am I making Hillary responsible for what her husband possibly did?”

Podkayne Lives (Hairless Marsupial Gutter Nun)
Podkayne Lives (Hairless Marsupial Gutter Nun)
4 years ago

And apparently Hillary can’t condemn Trump’s comments because she likes Beyonce.

If Trump had told the world that when a lady fucks his ass good he takes her to Red Lobster, I would think this was way TMI for a politician, and also that Red Lobster is kind of cheap for a man with that much money (I think that applies to Beyonce too), but I would not take it as a description of sexual assault.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Podkayne

Red Lobster is kind of cheap for a man with that much money (I think that applies to Beyonce too)

Whoa there, hol up. Them cheddar biscuits tho? Those are godlike 😀

Besides, it’s not just Red Lobster. She buys clothes too!
“Yep, I put it on him, it ain’t nothing that I can’t do
Yep, I buy my own. If he deserve it buy his shit too
All up in the store, shorty, tricking if I want to
All up in the store, shorty, fly as we want to”
-Beyonce, Countdown

I mean, it’s less weird than furniture…

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
4 years ago

Whoa there, hol up. Them cheddar biscuits tho? Those are godlike

Yeeeeessssssssssssssss.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@This hurts us all:
Let’s go through that first paragraph a line at a time. I wanted to do both paragraphs but wow, there’s a lot to unpack here.

Actually you’re all wrong. We’re offended

Firstly, you use “you” and “we” without explicitly stating who they are.

Secondly, even if we take the principle of charity, then we have to read this as you separating the world into two halves, those who vote for Clinton and those who do not, and ascribing a single unified opinion to each group.

This is probably less true during this election than almost any other. Some people who support Trump are neoconfederates; others are the most loyal remnants of the establishment, or the burgeoning alt-Right, or just people who are so misogynistic that they’ve stopped voting Democrat because they can’t bring themselves to vote for a woman. There are also Greens, Libertarians, McMullin supporters, that weird old guy who refuses to vote for any of them because they’re all white devils… these are not a homogenous group, and you cannot assume a position as a spokesman for all of them without at least some polling data.[1]

Thirdly, if we do not take the principle of charity then this gets to be an even more dislikeable position. What you’re doing here is suggesting that everyone is unified in opposition to the people you’re speaking to right now, and that WHTM readers stand in isolation. This is a very common emotional abuse technique, in which one preys on the human desire to conform to the group. It’s also an utterly reprehensible thing to do.

at the hypocrisy shown by everyone who supports Hillary

Again, this is not the case. A large number of people who have decided to vote for Clinton are open about the fact that they hate her, but hate Trump even more. Even among people who don’t hate Clinton, many have serious misgivings about one or another aspect of her behaviour, but are adult enough to weigh it against the other aspects and judge her by the balance.

Some Clinton supporters, for example, dislike how close she is to the finance industry. Others (including myself) dislike how close she has been to the military. Some definitely feel that her husband is a creep who has troubling attitudes towards women. Some feel that Sanders would have been better. However, the majority of them agree that in the balance she’s unmistakeably the right person for the job.

Many people who’ve declared that they will vote for Clinton are Republicans or former Republicans. Several of them are currently in elected office with Rs after their names. These are people who have no love for either Clinton, and who would have voted against them in the nineties, but have now come around.

In short, “everyone who supports Clinton” is a very large group with diverse positions; and to accuse them all of hypocrisy is a large step which requires commensurate evidence. [2]

by instantly

Bill Clinton’s troubling behaviour towards women, and the one claim of rape that actually surfaced, came out in the nineties. A child who was born at the time would be old enough to vote. We have all had a very long time to consider this. If this is your definition of “instantly”, you need a better clock.

giving unquestioned credit

Nobody’s giving unquestioned credit to anything: we are weighing it in the balance of what else is known. If Trump were well known as a respectful man who keeps his hands to himself, we would have laughed this off. However, he is known as the cardinal opposite of that, and so we are judging the claims in that light.

If you’re into science, this is known as the Bayesian approach. That term is sadly frequently misused by some parts of the interwubz, but it’s useful here in its original context.

to last minute claims

Trump’s attitudes towards women are anything but last minute. This is not new news. Everyone has had the opportunity to know about it for ages, if they chose to.

with specious credibility

The court system doesn’t think that the claims against Trump are specious; which is why he will be standing in the defendant’s dock later this year, even if he wins the election. When one considers how difficult it is to get a rape charge to court, it becomes clear that this is the opposite of specious credibility.

when they’ve essentially ignored the whitewashing Hillary herself has done to Bill Clinton’ [sic] victims.

Firstly, on a point of grammar, one cannot whitewash victims. Well, one can but it would mean that one is making them out to be even more innocent in the hopes of presenting the crime as worse. I think you mean the opposite of this.

Secondly, did you miss the part where Clinton and Lewinsky embraced on stage?

Clinton has done the exact opposite of whitewashing her husband’s misdeeds: she’s been admirably open about everything. What she has done is show adulthood and maturity[3] about it, and chosen to not hide the problematic issues while still remaining married to the man she loves.

(As an aside, this is probably an interesting point: people often accuse Clinton of being an emotionless robot, but she gets viciously attacked for those precisely those situations in which she shows emotional responses. It’s almost as if she’s wrong in whatever she does.)

* * *

Wow, that was the IKEA of statements. It bulks so small and yet when you unpack it, it’s huge.

* * *

[1] Which you do not have.

[2] Which you do not have.

[3] Which you do not have.

Banananana dakry
Banananana dakry
4 years ago

Cheddar biscuuuuiiiiits… *droools*

That, and for anyone who’s ever been to a Brazilian style churrascaria– oh god, what are those cheesy biscuits they have there MADE of? Part crack? Oh holy shit, you could eat a whole meal of them and dammit now I want some… *sobs*

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

McCraw then laid into Kasowitz and his client, writing, “The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a ‘piece of ass.’ Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.”

http://desunhospital.com/backend/en/uploads/images/BURNS%20UNIT.jpg

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

I get the feeling Trump supporters have just been trolled by Buzzfeed, who now get to run a story about how Trump supporters are terrible people who think rape is funny. Well done, everybody!

FoxKit
FoxKit
4 years ago

Actually you’re all wrong. We’re offended at the hypocrisy shown by everyone who supports Hillary by instantly giving unquestioned credit to last minute claims with specious credibility, when they’ve essentially ignored the whitewashing Hillary herself has done to Bill Clinton’ victims.

Put another way, there’s as much evidence against Bill Clinton as there is Bill Cosby, and I’m fairly certain you all have a pretty strong opinion about Bill Cosby. Either be consistent in your outrage or expect the rest of us to not take you seriously.

Gosh you’re right, I definitely won’t be voting for Bill Clinton this election, then!

Tizio
Tizio
4 years ago

I want to applaud Ej (The Orphic Lizard) for dismantling that bullshit.
But I’m also kinda-not-really-that-much disappointed that I’ve missed the brief appearance of the Mark Sockpuppet Mark IXVII.

Seven of Mine
Seven of Mine
4 years ago

This business of Hillary “whitewashing” Bill’s victims is BS. There’s no question she didn’t respond particularly gracefully but I’m not sure why you would expect her to. Several of his accusers have made very nebulous claims of intimidation and it appears that Hillary at least went along with the hiring of a private investigator to discredit Gennifer Flowers. There’s a blurb from the diary of someone mentioning that Hillary called Monica Lewinski a “narcissistic looney-toon” but that was a private conversation and, again, most people wouldn’t be any more gracious in the same situation. Broadrick claims Hillary said “thanks for everything you’ve done for Bill” soon after the incident and took that to mean that Hillary somehow knew about the rape and was threatening her to keep her silent.

Whereas Trump is ACTUALLY. PUBLICLY. threatening to sue people.

Also finding it quite interesting that Hurt finds the accusations against Trump to not be credible but uncritically refers to Bill Clinton’s accusers as his victims. This, of course, despite the fact that the claims of Trumps accusers are entirely consistent with Trump’s own description of his behavior toward women.

Zatar
Zatar
4 years ago

Ya:
You have an actual defense of what the Trump supporters are doing? Because I’m not seeing how “you used the wrong spelling for this word” refutes anything I said. Its pretty pathetic to take a fairly minor spelling mistake and use pointing out that mistake as the entire substance of your argument.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Wow! These alt-right tweeters should be stand-up comics. Or writers for SNL. Hilarious!

They remind me of how my brothers (two of them nine years older than me and one of them five years older than me) used to mock me for being a girl.

When I would say something, they would repeat it in a falsetto.

Whatever opinion I had was stupid.

Not only that, I was fat and ugly.

See? Hilarious!

Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
Joekster-betas bearded, sheeple shamed, dragons derailed. Reasonable rates.
4 years ago

@Kat: That’s terrible. Even for children.

I think this might be the basic disconnect I have with many feminists: I was raised in a household where my sister and I were listened to and respected equally, and we were both taught that this is how people should interact with each other. The more of these threads I read, the more obvious it is to me that our experience is in no way universal.

That’s…

Depressing.

Hugs (if wanted) to anyone who has ever been ignored because of gender, race, orientation, or anything else you have no control over.

Sorry if this is off-topic.
Carry on.