The debate is here! (Well, as I write this, almost here.) And I am practically jumping out of my own skin. How about you all? Discuss.
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The debate is here! (Well, as I write this, almost here.) And I am practically jumping out of my own skin. How about you all? Discuss.
Nonononononononono! He did not win this. He did not tie this. Can I just fling that fuckin audience into space? Just cos you’re sitting in the grownup seats don’t mean you ain’t fuckin toddlers! He’s them, they’re him, fuck off!
A smart (and smartly dressed, yowza!) woman with 33 years in the public eye and an extra decade in public service laying out a forward looking vision for my country does not lose a debate to the nadir of Murica, the (thanks Quentin) Tyranny of Evil Men. A boorish, entitled, gaslighting, narcissist, apologist slime who can’t answer a simple question. Any simple question! He knows about nothing and cares about even less. And why? Cos he managed to keep his mouth shut for 2 minutes at a time? Cos he didn’t start masturbating on stage to his daughter or grab hold of his opponents genitals? He managed not to use a slur for 90min? How does that win!? I hate my country sometimes
Either way, this cinched it. I’m voting early. I need to get it over and done. Besides, this might make the poll watcher brigade extra eager. Not gonna catch my black ass on the 8th, fuckers!
Well if there is one thing I know for sure, when Trump is going down, he’s taking as many as he can. More viciousness and open threats, more blatant calls for violence, you know a very very bad place. It won’t last long.
I don’t know why I keep watching the debates because everyone I just want someone silence trump so I can listen to Hillary’s policy proposals
@sparkalipoo
I do it to see whatever form of viciousness is now displayed. Well the biggest mistake Clinton did was to engage him, there’s nothing to be gained there other than insults, threats and purestrain brain sludge.
The thing that makes me sad is that I know that the things I see that i know are lies and are false, other people are on board and think Trump is the truth teller.
UGH!!!! It makes me so mad!!
I didn’t feel up to watching the debate tonight (will catch the Majority Report version later) but I keep seeing gifs where Trump is creepily hovering right behind Clinton? Such a fucking creepy man.
booburry, he did that a lot…
Just kind of looms up behind her…
@Oogly
Precise! He gives her nothing, but she feeds into his wheelhouse. Trump will always win a pissing match. He’s actually pretty good at it. “You’d be in jail” was such a good line, and his delivery was razor sharp. @PoM’s absolutely right. Wonk is Clinton’s ballgame. By ‘going low’, she basically loaded the bases for him. Defeat (or a tie or whatever the buzz is at this particular moment) from the jaws of brutal victory…
@Booburry
If he can’t physically attack her on live TV, he’s gonna try and make her feel like he might
@WWTH
What the hell kind of scoring system are they using? AFAICT, the winner of a debate is generally considered to be the one who backs up their position with the most facts and evidence. In practice, this means that in any debate involving a Republican, the Republican loses a priori, of course, since they never have any facts at all to back up their position, but the point remains.
Skiriki, hope your kitty gets better soon!
CNN snap poll of debate watchers has hillary winning 57% to 34%.
@David
Watch as /pol/ stuffs the ballots.
@David Futrelle
Is it true? Dare I breathe again?
Instant post-debate polls are pretty garbage. The classic example of this is Gore/Bush in 2000, where Gore won the post-debate polls only to see Bush surge ahead in opinion polling over the next week. It doesn’t help that most of these polls are online and easily gamed, which 4Chan has taken full advantage of.
Having said that, Clinton handily won the credible post-debate polls during the first debate, and later polls confirmed a significant but smaller shift. This time around, two credible post-debate polls give her the win, though the margins seem lower than before. As a gut check, the betting markets have been pretty stable throughout the debate, with Trump rising slightly but being unable to make up for his Friday/Saturday losses.
My guess? The polls will dip against Trump over the next week by a percentage point or two, which everyone will pin on the debates (when in reality #TrumpTape is to blame, as it hasn’t had time to influence the polls), then stabilize due to the influence of this debate.
If this song makes it onto iTunes, we should totally launch a campaign to get it to the #1 spot!
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/785308308840312832
Unrelated to the debates, but heartbreaking.
The media pulled this dopey “Candidate X won the first debate, therefore Candidate Y could eat a baby onstage and still win the second, ALL HAIL THE HORSE RACE” crap with Obama too. Seems like nobody’s falling for it this time, though.
@Scildfreja
I can’t believe they are going to go ahead with the pipeline. Are there any other legal actions they can take I wonder?
I’m trying to remember what debate Romney’s binders full of women occurred in.
Omg, that anthem is epic, Hu!!
The second, “Town Hall” one, IIRC.
ETA: just checked; yep. The second one.
You guys should seriously check out John Oliver tonight. He had his most glorious beat down of Trump yet.
John Oliver’s show was great tonight!
So I already called with a text group with my mom and a few of her friends, next week will have an SNL skit with Alec Baldwin creepily following Kate McKinnon around on stage
Found Trump’s sulky pacing around the stage like a spoiled adolescent bizarre. And it was tempting skip over his segments cause cringe and he usually says nothing new anyway , but the gloating over not paying personal tax to the federal government really got me.
So my last post probably didn’t make grammatical sense. I am not saying I am currently drunk but I am not denying that I am drunk.