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Open Thread: Donald Trump brags, on tape, about sexually assaulting women

Big mouth strikes again
Big mouth strikes again

So Trump’s been caught on video bragging about grabbing unsuspecting women “by the p***y.”

Watch the video in this tweet and throw up in your mouth a little:

Yes, this is horrible Trump revelation number two billion and seven, but this one looks like this could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, and Republicans are scrambling to condemn his comments and distance themselves from their nominee.

I don’t have much to add here but I think some of you probably do.

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Fiona McCool
Fiona McCool
8 years ago

Hi folks. I’ve been reading WHTM for a while now but this is my first comment. I’ve read the policy but please let me know if I do anything wrong.

I’ve been wanting to ask if anyone has had a similar experience to me and I figured this might be an appropriate thread. I have recently discovered that a friend of mine is a Trump fan and a Milo fan, based on Facebook likes and comments that I am certain are not sarcasm/a Poe. I was really shocked by this as I used to be quite close to this friend, but in recent years we haven’t seen much of each other as he moved interstate. Now I’m actually not sure if I want to continue to be his friend or not. I feel like if I saw him again I’d just be reminded of Milo and Trump and be sickened by the whole thing.

Has anyone here made the decision to end a friendship because of something like this? I would like to hear your stories.

Thanks in advance. In my time zone it is bedtime so I will read further posts tomorrow.

Kivutar
Kivutar
8 years ago

“At the dining room table” is usually an expression referring to a situation of increased civility. “Not at the dinner table, Billy,” etc. Corey Lewandowski doesn’t just fail to understand how the world works – he also fails to understand the English language.

zyvlyn
zyvlyn
8 years ago

I think the “dining room table” comment is supposed to counter the shock that people are experiencing due to his using dirty language.

As if that’s what this is all about… I don’t think his head could be any further up his ass.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

Awww, Chiomara, those are the cutest kitties in the entire world! I’m glad to see that you offered them your hand as a claw-sharpening device; that’s very selfless of you. I hope it didn’t hurt too much.

rugbyyogi
8 years ago

That baby/ cat video – totally uncool. Totally wrong.

That is a baby. I love cats, but when you are a parent your first responsibility is to the baby. Cats are just cats and so they don’t always understand when they’ve hurt you. The minute the baby started crying because the cat hurt him/her then the parent needed to put the camera down and step in. The way that cat went for that baby’s face is awful. It could have led to an eye scratch which could have led to permanent injury for that child. I don’t blame the cat, but I definitely do blame the parent – and if that is the cat’s usual behaviour then the cat has to go. Sorry cat, I know it’s not your fault, but babies first.

Bless my cat – she is not a tolerant cat, but she understood that when my son was a baby, he was a baby. She never accidentally hurt him. When he became a toddler and did all the things that toddlers do to mess with cats, she was tolerant. If I’d pulled her tail or rubbed her fur the wrong way, she’d have taken a plug out of me. She never did that to my boy. I have a picture of him waving a toothbrush in her face and her ears back, but she never swatted. If she had ever gone for my son when he was the age of the baby in the video, she would have been gone. Not that I would have sat back and let that happen.

As he became older and I could communicate with him, I taught him how to treat a cat. But sometimes it’s fun to mess with cats a little – as a bigger person, you play the game, you pay the penalty. He was about four before she ever went for him. But by then he was much bigger than her. And he was warned about both messing with the cat and about noticing her body language. She swatted him once and he learned his lesson and I told him straight up it was his own fault. We’ve had no problems since.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

On the one hand, given the context and the way he says it, I can believe it was only meant as hyperbole and that he doesn’t actually think it’s okay to, or make a habit of, greeting women by giving their crotches a handshake.

I think it’s worth reviewing what Trump actually said that he does. He said you can grab women by the crotch if you are a celebrity. He didn’t say he does it routinely, but he was certainly implying that he’s done it on occasion. The reports of him sexually assaulting women by feeling them up are completely credible. If it seems implausible that he does it all the time in lieu of a handshake, well, he wasn’t claiming that.

But let’s not gloss what he did say that he does do routinely: kissing women without their consent. There are plenty of videos showing him doing that at celebrity events. The women put up with it because they have to put up with it lest they be labeled stuck-up c-nts, so he’s not wrong in what he describes. He’s not alone in this, either – a non-trivial number of famous men greet attractive women by smooching them. This is a national disgrace. That doesn’t meet the legal definition of sexual assault in any place I’ve checked, but it is a type of sexual assault.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

Yeah, can we please stop brushing what he says off as hyperbole? This man feels entitled to women’s bodies. He hates immigrants and refugees. We need to stop playing down his actual words as just his quirky personality. It’s not exaggeration. He really believes these things.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago

Sorry for the OT but I just had a major scare because of my mother’s terrible communication skills.

My dad just went in for surgery (kidney stones). This afternoon, I got a phone call from my dad’s phone. When I picked up, it was my mom on the other end. She said: “I’m at the hospital. The surgery did not go well.”

I was like, WHAT? Wait, what’s up? Then she said, “I’ll let you talk to your dad and he can explain.” She gave the phone to my dad, who sounded exactly like normal. He explained that they failed to remove the kidney stones, so he’s having another attempt at surgery in a few days.

Well, for a few seconds there I thought my dad had died. :/

Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
8 years ago

He’ll still have his dedicated base. This will probably just make them like him even more. He’s definitely losing the support of the rest of the US, thankfully.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

I’m hoping to see this drop down to single digits.

Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
Makroth - Agent of the Great Degeneracy
8 years ago

Can’t wait for this clueless blowhard asshole to lose. He should just drop out now and save us the headache.

In the meantime, here’s some kitties.

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And some talking doggos:

numerobis
numerobis
8 years ago

Imaginary Petal: oh dear!

I hope you didn’t have a literal heart attack.

numerobis
numerobis
8 years ago

Makroth: my fantasy is that Texas will vote blue this election. Already the fact it’s not dark red on the 538 map brings me comfort.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Makroth
It was never about his dedicated fans, anyway. Though it’s good that they’re vocal so we can avoid them. It’s more about the swing states and the people who typically vote republican but aren’t willing to vote for a man who brags about sexually assaulting women.

I wonder if Clinton has another October Surprise up her sleeve and if she does whether she’s calling it her Trump card. 😉

@Petal
My mother is also a terrible communicator so I feel you. Though she’s never done anything this bad.

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Let’s hope Putin isn’t planning an October surprise of his own, to get his boy back into the race.

bluecat
bluecat
8 years ago

@ IP – Ouch!!!

I hope blood pressure and heart beat are back to normal now.

And your Dad’s, and that he’s healing well.

[Not funny story at all: a relative of mine is a retired doctor. As a young man he witnessed a surgeon telling a patient’s husband that the experimental operation they’d carried out had gone wonderfully well. Splendidly – congratulations all around. No, they hadn’t managed to remove the tumour, and she was certainly going to die of it, but the main thing was that the operation had been a great success and they were the first hospital in the country ever to do it… Yeah. My relative is not the world’s best communicator, but he’s better than that.]

On the Trump tapes: is anyone surprised?

This is so entirely of a piece with everything the man says, the way he acts towards women – bullying, entitled, inappropriate…

What is interesting is whether any of the commentators who have been falling over themselves to excuse and enable his loathsome political career find this just one step too far even for them.

Of course, they could always blame Hillary or something – it’s not like they haven’t done that before.

Nequam
Nequam
8 years ago

Can’t wait for this clueless blowhard asshole to lose. He should just drop out now and save us the headache.

If he drops out the GOP will put their support behind Pence, who is equally vile (though in a American Taliban way) but is capable of passing for a civilized human being. I’m not sure I want that if there’s still enough #NeverHilary types out there.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

Oh, I’m sure Roger will be here shortly to tell us how Trump is still the “safer” bet and how Scott Adams is right to still support Trump.

Fabe
Fabe
8 years ago

Oh, I’m sure Roger will be here shortly to tell us how Trump is still the “safer” bet and how Scott Adams is right to still support Trump.

I though Adams was supporting Clinton so he doesn’t get murdered by Her Supporters

Nick G
Nick G
8 years ago

I think the American people know exactly who Donald Trump is – Corey Lewandowski

Which is apparently false, since there’s shock and horror at this where there wasn’t before. – numerobis

No, Lewandowski is right: anyone who has been paying the slightest attention knew at some level that this is exactly how Trump talks about women in private. The difference – and why I think this makes a Trump victory almost impossible – is that no-one can now pretend they don’t know it. Hence, quite a number of prominent Republicans have already de-endorsed Trump andor called for him to withdraw his candidacy. Unless there’s actually a video out there of Clinton torturing kittens or eating a roast baby, I think he’s done for. Hopefully, he’ll pull a lot of the Republican congressional candidates down with him, as they fight over whether to stick with him.

Amnesia
Amnesia
8 years ago

After recently calling several people I know out for their ‘both sides are equally bad’ nonsense, this whole ‘surprise’ feels enormously vindicating. Just the other day, some were trying to tell me how “Hillary doesn’t care about anybody but herself” and that “People who actually work with Trump love him.”

Like, yeah, when you don’t take the concerns of people who aren’t white men seriously, you end up overlooking a lot. Don’t want to say I told them so, but, well, I told them so.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Fabe
Originally he said that, but recently he came out in support of Trump. His response to this recent video footage was basically that he still supports Trump. We’ve got a troll in another thread about Scott Adams who is defending him on the basis of his feelings alone and who doesn’t care about facts and thinks ignorance is a virtue. No, really.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

Trump has issued a statement that sounds exactly the kinda serial abuser he absolutely is. Here’s a breakdown. Just to be safe, TW: employment and subsequent rebuttal of abusive unpologies. Oh, and maybe don’t read the comments on the 1st link

Unrelated: is it an ironic coincidence or a clever subversion that Open Threads are the least open threads? Don’t know why it took so long for that to hit me…

Podkayne Lives (Hairless Marsupial Gutter Nun)
Podkayne Lives (Hairless Marsupial Gutter Nun)
8 years ago

But if this thing does go to trial, it would not be unmitigated good news for the left. Jeffrey Epstein, noted NYC procurer of girls for pedophiles, is involved. And from what I’ve read, Bill Clinton is also a buddy of Epstein’s. I’m not sure what the implications of that are but, you know, the truth could be really bad.

The Trump campaign has already tried on the ‘Bill is a friend of Epstein’s!’ routine. Yes, he was a prominent Democratic donor. I doubt it goes beyond that to a point of criminality as opposed to incredible tastelessness. If it does…well, let justice be done though the fucking heavens fall. I still have some illusions about Bill Clinton, but I can give them up if I have to.

Donald Trump on Epstein, before the charges were brought: “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

And then he had the nerve to try to use pictures of Bill Clinton with Epstein against the Clinton campaign. Jesus, what is in this man’s closet of skeletons I can’t even imagine.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
8 years ago

As if that’s what this is all about… I don’t think his head could be any further up his ass.

His head’s so far up his ass that he’s chewed through his tonsils.

Weird (not wired) Eddie
Weird (not wired) Eddie
8 years ago

As with all the repulsive shit he believes, there are still people who support him. There are the “it’s only bad because he said it out loud” Trumpf supporters, the “he didn’t mean it in a bad way” Trumpf supporters, the “they’re blowing this out of proportion/taking it out of context” Trumpf supporters, and the “F*** ’em, I AGREE with him” Trumpf supporters (which has got to be his largest demographic). If you disbelieve that women, non-whites, non-christians, EXIST ONLY for the benefit of white men, I don’t see how you can even stand him, let alone support him