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Confused MRAs charge conspiracy after Village Voice pans “agonizing” Red Pill documentary

This fictional character from The Office probably wouldn't like the film either
This fictional character probably wouldn’t like the film either

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The reviews are in! Well, technically speaking, a review is in.

The Village Voice’s Alan Scherstuhl has posted his review of Cassie Jaye’s The Red Pill, her totally objective documentary about the Men’s Rights Movement that was funded in part by some of the people featured in it and that will be opening in theaters a theater Friday

Let’s just say he didn’t like it:

[F]or two agonizing hours, Jaye tumbles slowly down America’s stupidest rabbit hole, discovering that Men’s Rights Activists are actually just dudes who have been dicked over by a culture that punishes masculinity. …

Jaye acknowledges in the opening and closing minutes that MRAs sometimes spew nasty garbage online, but she never presses them on this in her many interviews. Instead, she lets them moan about how hard it is to be a dude in 2016, endorsing their anecdotal complaints about unfair family courts, incidents of men being tricked into being fathers and — I didn’t quite follow this one — one father’s conviction that the women who had custody of his son were systematically trying to make the boy fat.

One can only assume that they are fattening him up before they EAT HIM.

Confused MRAs, apparently unable to understand how anyone could possibly hate a film they’re pretty sure they’re going to just love, have responded to Scherstuhl’s review by crying “conspiracy.”

In a comment on the Village Voice, MRA David King (presumably the same David King who is the “Chief Information Officer” for A Voice for Men) suggests that “[s]omething definitely stinks, and it’s not the film under review.”

He submits these, er, facts to a candid world:

• September 29, Cassie Jaye tweeted “Events surrounding The Red Pill documentary are getting curiouser and curiouser”, the same day Scherstuhl tweeted that he’d “agreed to review” TRP, the same day Scherstuhl invited a well-known anti-male MRA antagonist to DM him via Twitter.

Just FYI, the “well-known anti-male MRA antagonist” in question is apparently little old me, though I’m pretty sure I am not actually anti-male. I didn’t DM Scherstuhl, though I think I retweeted a couple of his Tweets. 

King continues:

• October 4, HP and Village Voice publish this hit piece using present-tense language (“this movie is playing in two American theaters”) strongly implying that the author has seen a film which doesn’t debut for another 3 days on October 7,

HOW ON EARTH DID A FILM REVIEWER SEE A FILM BEFORE IT WAS EVEN OUT oh wait that’s how film reviewing works.

• so Scherstuhl has not seen it at a theatre and cannot have seen it anywhere else unless either a) invited to by CJ (in which case HP and Village Voice, at which Scherstuhl is an editor, have violated the embargo such previews usually carry) or b) he has acquired a copy illegally.

Since both HP and VV have published this review already, since embargoes on unreleased films are the norm, and barring decent evidence of mismanagement on the part of CJ and her team, that rather heavily points at the latter. Whichever the case, violation of contract (best case) or breaking the law (worst case) doesn’t look good for either HP or Village Voice.

Yes, because films are NEVER reviewed before they hit theaters oh wait.

• If the author has not seen it, then he’s lying through his teeth both in the article’s content and about its provenance. He misrepresents the review as being based on an alleged viewing post public release but, owing to an editorial screw-up, the copy got released days before it should have been, proving that his article is a premeditated and contrived attack motivated by political animus.

• There are numerous tells in the language used in this article that strongly hint at an agenda and a prior conclusion (read: closed mind) so it almost doesn’t matter whether Scherstuhl did see it or not because the actual content of the film would make no difference to the content of the article.

King blathers on for a while along these lines, and even mentions me by name once! It’s good to be noticed.

Meanwhile, on Twitter, the lovable Dan Perrins seems to suggest that I might have actually paid Scherstuhl for his review.

Apparently Dan lives in an alternate universe in which men are oppressed and I am filthy rich.

Speaking of films, here is a short documentary about a capybara who jumps into a pool and plays with a pool noodle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291Bry2FlsU

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Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Wow, I didn’t know running a feminist blog was so lucrative David! Katie surely smiles upon Her Favored Beta Males.

And to think, you might have been sent to the bon bon mines instead!

snork maiden
8 years ago

Ah yes, nothing will convince the world that MRAs are decent upstanding fellows who never harass people they disagree with online, than having a load of them brigading an unfavourable review of a film about them.

Judas Peckerwood
8 years ago

I’m envisioning an international MRA film festival featuring The Red Pill, The Sarkeesian Effect, that amazing Alt-Right Dogs trailer and other masterpieces of the genre.

It would be huge, the very best film festival ever!

magnesium
magnesium
8 years ago

and — I didn’t quite follow this one — one father’s conviction that the women who had custody of his son were systematically trying to make the boy fat.

Okay, now I kind of want to see this just to hear about the dastardly feminist child-fattening plot.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Aw. I should have waited instead of mocking the MRA reactions in the other thread. Oh well. I’ll just copy paste it here if no one minds.

And the MRA comments are pretty hilarious. Although they mostly come from some fellow named Gary Costanza

Please oh please let the author get divorced and lose his kids, or maybe he’s the type who hates kids, that’s why he makes fun of Dad’s who love their kids. Antidote for male feminism = family court.

Since MRAs think that paying alimony or child support or not having primary custody of the kids after a divorce is the male equivalent of rape, then wouldn’t this be kind of like a feminist telling another woman she hopes she gets raped? Not only do MRAs fail at being a social justice movement as a social justice movement would be commonly defined, they fail at being a social justice movement by their own definition!

You should also apologize for: belittling men’s problems, writing a hit piece with no substance, and taking the bait of a know-nothing bigot and child-porn lover David Futrelle.
Here are more men’s issues in case the author, in a rush to judgement, didn’t have time to research: male genital mutilation, gynocentrism in family court, male-only draft and selective service, reproductive rights. Remember, these aren’t social or cultural issues, although they may be, THEY ARE THE LAWs OF THE LAND. Unequal laws of the land. Do your research.

Bwhahahahaha!!!!

How did the author see the film, as it’s not played anywhere yet?? Has he really seen it?? It premieres Oct. 7, today is the 4th. Has this pre-written hit piece been published early by mistake??

Apparently MRAs don’t understand the concept of the press getting to see screenings of movies before they’re released to the general public so they can write reviews that coincide with the release date. Has Gary ever read anything that isn’t MRA blogs?

Is this really going to be the MRA talking point? How could a reviewer have possibly seen a movie before it’s released to the public? Really guys? I don’t think you’ve thought this one through. At all.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I found photographic evidence of the child fattening plot

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The witch has hit the wall and is totally unfuckable. Plus she has a cat. Obviously she’s a feminist!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

One can only assume that they are fattening him up before they EAT HIM.

The worst thing in the feminist run family court system is when you’re forced to buy your ex wife a gingerbread house.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

There was actually a tumblr post where someone wondered why fairy tale witches fattened kids up before eating them.

The answer is simple: Those kids are going over a low flame for long hours at a time, in a cauldron (or a slow cooker for the modern witch who doesn’t like cauldron maintenance). That fat’s gonna melt into the meat and make ’em nice and tender.

You can’t do that to the lean ones, nope. They’ll only dry out and get tough, and that’s not good eatin’.

And a low-protein, high sugar and carb diet gives the meat a great flavor.

Speaking of, I have broth in the kitchen I just made with little fatty meat bits, a mirepoix, seasonings, and some dried shitake mushrooms . : 9

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

Heh, guess we all like that fairy tale; although we only have the kids word for it as to what actually happened.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

Heh, guess we all like that fairy tale; although we only have the kids word for it as to what actually happened.

“Yeah she tried to eat us so we killed her. Forensics? Nah, had to burn all the evidence in an oven. Sorry about that.”

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

— one father’s conviction that the women who had custody of his son were systematically trying to make the boy fat.

Let me guess:

1) This man’s son is fat, or what he perceives as fat;

2) he wants to starve the kid, or punish him for eating, or do some of the many other terrible things people do to their children when they feel their kids’ body types are embarrassing to them as parents;

3) the kid’s guardians aren’t allowing him to do this; therefore

4) they are deliberately making the kid fat to punish his father for being A Man. Misandry!

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

What’s that? After The Sarkeesian Effect turned out to be a shitty scammy half-assed bucket of lulz, and the Honey Badgers’ lawsuit also turned out to be a shitty scammy half-assed bucket of lulz, this turned out to be a shitty scammy half-assed bucket of lulz as well?!

http://i.imgur.com/R6Jfdch.gif

I’m just. So shocked.

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Paradoxy, you’d want to keep some of the kids thin, for making child jerky. That’s good when you don’t have refrigeration, and, let’s face it, a gingerbread house is probably off the grid.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

How horrible and tragic that such an epic film is being characterized as … horrible.

(My brain hurts now.)

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Ok, that’s one more thing to add to the long list of “things MRAs don’t understand”.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago

– lives with cats, rolling in dough through maintaining a blog, controls the entire media through bribery
– beta male

PICK ONE, MRAS

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

Ooh, the comments are gold

Paul Elam IS an asshole, but the MRM has been around for decades, and only gotten notice very recently thanks for the aforementioned asshole. Other than being an asshole, there’s really no way to bring public attention to these issues

Keep going. Find the connection. There’s a breakthrough in there somewhere…

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Moggie | October 4, 2016 at 1:50 pm
Paradoxy, you’d want to keep some of the kids thin, for making child jerky. That’s good when you don’t have refrigeration, and, let’s face it, a gingerbread house is probably off the grid.

That’s also a good suggestion! I could also jar/can the leftover child stew. And I don’t think it’d be too much trouble to get my beta male orbiters to buy me some decent pyrex containers and/or mason jars.

I mean, they’ll do anything as long as I lead them on with friendship the promise of sex, right?

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Spare a thought for us beta male orbiters who don’t care for sex. I’m just hoping for protection when the male genocide goes down.

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

Guys, we all know that Entertainment Weekly and Roger Ebert are the only movie oracles approved by the Board of Sibylline Art Critics. You can see where they became confused, and, I mean, every person with an opinion and a tarot deck thinks they can review a movie before it’s out. How can you trust any reviewer if they aren’t certified?

dreemr
dreemr
8 years ago

I’m actually kind of dumbfounded by how ignorant of the review process these boys are. AFAIK, the only time there’s an embargo on publishing a review of an upcoming film is if the distributor knows it’s so awful that the only way they can make some money from it is to spring it on the public with no advance notice.

Myriad
Myriad
8 years ago

I know we joke a lot around here about MRAs seeing the world through a reality distortion field but just wow. Do those guys not know how anything works?

Handsome "Punkle Stan" Jack

I know we joke a lot around here about MRAs seeing the world through a reality distortion field but just wow. Do those guys not know how anything works?

http://66.media.tumblr.com/ad3bd86111084fcdae8748f2f6757db9/tumblr_n0lz0uVGyQ1so2163o2_500.gif

No.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

dreemr,

The press screeners for the first four episodes of season 5 of Game of Thrones got leaked all over the internet. For season 6, HBO didn’t give any media members screeners. So there are other reasons reviewers might not get to view something in advance. But GoT is the most pirated show in the world and one of the best rated shows on cable, certainly highest rated on premium cable. The Red Pill doc is definitely not important to keep secret. Honestly, MRAs should be happy there’s even enough interest in the film to have it reviewed!

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

I’m sure these guys spoke out against the pre-release trashing of such movies as Mad Max: Fury Road, Ghostbusters, and Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

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