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The Alt-Right has a new plan to take over the culture … by appropriating the “corporate symbols of the left” and — get this! — subverting them. And then, like, pasting them on buildings and stuff. Because no one has ever thought of THAT before!
In a recent blog post, the pickup-artist-turned-white-supremacist-Trump-superfan “Heartiste” proudly posts a photo of one such subversion: street posters that have transformed the Apple logo, “an iconic image of globohomo shitlibbery,” into “a pro-Trumpening war banner” by turning the standard bite from the apple into a Trump silhouette.
Aw, it’s cute — they think they’re Banksy!
Heartiste then posts his own contribution to the “existential war for the soul of Western Man.”
If you’ve ever wondered if it was possible to screw up in Photoshop if all you’re doing is posting words onto a plain white background, it turns out the answer is “yes.”
Here’s a slightly more clever use of the Adidas brand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNua1lFDuDI
Oh I don’t think that heartiste is a “bad” person. It is just that I disagree with it very much.
And I’m not trying to prove anything. Except that maybe our opponents are not evil. They are humans and just have self centred ideas sometimes.
And I do hope that heartiste can have a true loving partner. Even if “it” is a bit of a dick.
Hello.
and
Nobody is striken by this two statements in a sentence implying the first about the second ? Next, are they going to say that Tom Ford is clearly a feminist company as seen per its adds, and that Nike has promoted the positive discrimination by allowing asian children to fashion shoes ?
Have a nice day.
@Pol
Don’t call people “it”, fuckhead.
Poor heartiste. Got called “it”… Are you serious Imaginary Petal?
Well, better “it” than “fuckhead” I suppose.
Geez, chillax mate. We are all friends here.
That was an odd comment from Pol. Pol has posted here before in good faith, so it’s sort of an astounding misstep. I almost wonder if Pol was trying to go off the common manosphere logic that feminists ‘just need to get laid’. In any case, bad taste.
@pol: try not to get defensive. You posted something that seemed funny to you, but was triggering for various people here (and even privileged people like me can see the problem with it). I know it’s really tough to not get defensive when your comments are being criticized, but it’s extremely educational to take them to heart.
Teel deer: ‘an error does not become a mistake unless it is not corrected’-Timothy Zahn
@dust bunny, occasional reader – Yeah, “corporate symbols of the left” is a bit silly.
Well, Thinkly Different! 😛
@faeriesoph – About Pound: that’s a fair point, and the fact that he was a white, English-speaking American probably had a lot to do with the compromise. I can’t imagine that happening had he been ethnically Japanese or even Italian. Still, many people at the time denounced the idea that pro-Axis speech on an obscure radio program = treason. (I guess from a contemporary perspective hate speech would be a better charge, but that category didn’t exist yet in law.)
Dunning-Kruger is fun. These bozos are about to find out what aggressive defense of a trademark looks like.
@Pol
I know one person who actually uses it/its pronouns. However, if it is not explicitly the pronoun someone requests, using it/its pronouns in reference to a person is a massive dick move, as it’s usually applied to objects and not humans.
You’re going to hit clay soon if you keep digging down.
Hi Joekster,
I certainly was not saying that feminists need to get laid. That would be foolish and untrue of me to say. I most certainly do not think any such thing.
Although to be honest, I don’t see how you could come to that impression of me from what I have said.
Nevertheless, it seems like a few people were a bit peed off by me and so I will take your criticism into account.
And also, goodnight all. ?
….Welp.
Let’s get a better topic rolling. Anyone else got a dry mouth?
@pol: i’m not quite understanding how you want to simultaneously remind the commentariat that our opponents are people, but are then also using a pronoun which in English strips away the idea of a person being a person.
Use ‘they’ if you don’t know the gender of someone, until you ask or they tell you their pronouns. In this case, as the person in question is a prominent part of the manosphere, we can assume that the pronouns they use are ‘he’. Heartiste might be trans (we wouldn’t know until he mentioned something) but currently it is a good bet that he uses ‘he’.
Re: posting under a different nym – here is how that will go. You will once again gain the benefit of the doubt. Then, if you say something pretty shitty that says that women are responsible for this awful behaviour (if only some one would fuck him regularily, he wouldn’t be such an ass!) And also say that women have the cure to all this shitty behaviour (just sleep with him and he will change!) People will call you out on it.
Doesn’t matter the nym, always. I read your comment and went ‘wait, who said that?’ Then scrolled up to see it was you.
@pol: I was wondering if you were trying to mock the manosphere meme by turning it around on one of their chief proponents, which would have been funny, if in poor taste. Obviously not.
@troubelle: medical or psychological?
@pol
1) Re: “happier of they find a decent girlfriend”
Think of it like an order of operations issue. To find a decent girlfriend and be happy they need to be a decent human being with respect to women.
2) You might as well abandon that “chillax” approach right now. That that runs straight into the problem of people getting dismissed due to tone, a very common thing that happens to women. As a result this site tends to critisize criticism of tone.
There is tone and substance and if you can’t see the latter through the former not only will you not do well here, that is a legitimate weakness all by itself.
@Joekster
Medical, I suppose, given that I also happen to have contracted a rogue rhinovirus, and the weather is in flux right now.
And, somehow, not even remotely surprised. By any of it…
@Pol
Shartiste has no love to give. He talks about women like he’s tinkering with toys. And any love he would receive would just wash off of him. How familiar are you with him? Any woman should stay away from him. Any sentient being should stay away from him. Non-sentient ones too, just to be safe.
@joekster
Nah, Pol is an old gotcha troll.
@occasional reader
No idea really, but I think it’s because Adidas shoes were associated with high-profile black athletes. 25 years ago. Coming soon on RoK: a rant against these kids and their baggy pants.
@Viscaria: My uncle posted this thing to Facebook recently from someone else about how they’re banning baggy pants in some areas of the US, actually.
He’s in support of it, because my uncle is racist as hell, though not nearly to the level of the alt-right and the nazis.
@Pol
Way to miss the point, fuckhead.
Generic insults aren’t remotely the same thing as dehumanizing and transphobic language. Stop tone trolling or you might find yourself banned sooner than you expected.
Who wants to bet that Pol will come back with a different name, say the same shit and get called out again?
This is something people do from time to time. They convince themselves that they get called out because we’re meanies and want to pick on them not because they said something problematic. So they start again with a sock and lo and behold, they get the same results.
To Heartiste and other Alt-Right people, the “left” includes anyone with broadly liberal opinions about social and cultural issues. That feeds into the “radical Leftist socialists/communists secretly control everything” trope.
Wait, what? Pol, you’ve been coming here awhile. I don’t care what your opinions are on what we’re saying, you should at least have an inkling of what will and won’t fly here. Changing your name won’t fix any of that if you plan on saying the same sorts of things, it’s not a case of people just holding a grudge against you. The grudge is against your ideas.
re: “Corporate symbols of the left”
Like most fascists, everything they don’t like gets sort of jumbled together in a web of conspiracy. Leftists are also globalists, you see – they want to crush traditional indigenous populations and sew everything together into one massive international bureaucracy. Because them leftists sure love their bloated inefficiencies, I guess?
They also are corporatists, and are responsible for fiat currency, for the destruction of the middle class, and for the corruption of free government with corporate money, turning it into that bloated bureaucracy, for, uh, reasons? I guess?
It’s a weird through-the-looking-glass experience, no doubt about it. “Left” pretty much means “Anything that I disagree with” to them, I think. Which is how you can have a boardroom of “Leftist” billionaires that are ordering the crushing of dissidents in African holdings, sending bribes to the government to get lower taxes, and destroying the last remaining wildernesses on the planet, all while laughing and patting themselves on the back.
It’s sad, really, because in the end we both think that those rich fat cats are the bad guys. For some reason the alt-right doesn’t want to realize that we oppose those plunderous assholes with our every breath, because then they might have to work with us to beat them. Better to blame the left as a willing accomplice to their rise instead of owning up to the fact that it’s traditional conservative right-wing thinking that led to their rise.
I dunno, this is all pretty rambly and vague in my head right now – still ill over here – but I’m pretty confident that their use of “left” isn’t anything remotely close to ours.
@Pol
Dude, c’mon.
(also thanks to JoeB for showing me there’s an A.D.I.D.A.S. song other than the Korn one)
@Paradoxy
I wish a muthafucka would…
@WWTH
Pol has a rather… distinctive style:
says something problematic
is aghast at the reaction
digs hole
lashes out
faux civility
“good night” and disappear
Shouldn’t be too hard to notice the return
We should ban all passé fashion trends! Down with pageboy hats! Yeah, I said it! Bell bottoms? More like bell bottom… of the trash heap!