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I gotta skip the misogyny/alt-right crap today. So here’s a question for you all: what are you reading?

I’ll start: in addition to reading way too many news stories about Donald Trump, I’ve been reading about meditation. Here are a couple of books I especially like:

Mindfulness in Plain English, by Henepola Gunaratana  (An older version is available for free online!)

The Mind Illuminated, by Culadasa (John Yates). Website here.

How about you?

As an added bonus, here are some words of wisdom from my unconscious mind:

It didn’t make any more sense in the dream than it does in the real world.

And a Pledge Drive capybara reading a goddamn book!

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Weird (not wired) Eddie
Weird (not wired) Eddie
8 years ago

@ Kat

Here’s my question: Who leaked this story?

Was it Donald J. Trump — because it makes for good reality TV?

meh… I read See Yen Nen’s analysis of that (didn’t read the sub head “Giuliani thinks Trump is a genius”)… somebody on the Trumpf side of the fence is saying this proves the media are part of the Clinton camp and the “globalists” camp. Just one more example of the World Conspiracy which is sweeping the poor endangered White Folk into the dustpan to be taken out with the rubbish. I hate winter… I never thought I’d ever wish this hard for mid-November to come! 🙁 🙂

sunnysombrera
8 years ago

I’m not reading anything fictional since I have an oddly hard time getting into novels these days. Not like when I was an kid at all, I read SO much stuff. However I have begun taking German lessons at the local Adult Education centre (yay!) so I will soon be buying resource materials to help me progress. Wünderbar!

On an unrelated note, I have a question to ask the community: should I play Overwatch? I’m really tempted however I have never played a modern FPS before, let alone an MMO one. I also only have a laptop so if I can’t manage the specs, I’ll just have to pass.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@sunnysombrera

However I have begun taking German lessons at the local Adult Education centre (yay!) so I will soon be buying resource materials to help me progress. Wünderbar!

Awesome! You’ll do great. Just don’t get too happy with the umlauts ?

Margie Chadwick
Margie Chadwick
8 years ago

I am just beginning to read “Shrill” by Lindy West. Any fans of hers here?

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Awesome! You’ll do great. Just don’t get too happy with the umlauts

What do you have against metal?

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@Moggie
Honestly, anytime I see ‘metal umlauts’ I die a little inside. That’s not how you spell that word, jackass! Except Motörhead. At least that’s phonetically correct. Mötley Crüe can go fuck itself tho…

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

Axe, what do you have against Spın̈al Tap? Are you against metal, or in favour of the long-term survival of drummers, or something?

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
8 years ago

Kinda OT but the streamer I mentioned yesterday would piss off so many MGTOW/MRA types and I love that. They give advice to the party (“B side, watch out for the dash. Back to unmarked…”) plays a huge variety of games, has their own life and friends, drinks and smokes and makes filthy jokes, and is generally fun to follow, even when feeling down. And the keyword is “fun”, given how many GGers and their ilk seem to be virulently opposed to fun and instead focus all their energy on making other people miserable as they are.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago

@Axe

Remember when Jay-Z used to have an umlaut over the y?

Naira
Naira
8 years ago

I decided to pick up Travels with Charley by John Steinbeck. It is one of those stories that I hear a lot about, so I figure it is time to read it and be able to talk to all the people who reference it.

I’m on something of a cycle: something random, something non-fiction, something Steinbeck.

I just finished The Year of the Flood by Margaret Atwood and Everyman’s Talmud, so back to Steinbeck.

Victoria
Victoria
8 years ago

The Autobiography of Malcolm X. I love the way he framed things, he was going into some of the details of things like subtle bias and non-hateful prejudice before the academic vocabulary was completely established (at least, that’s what it seems like, I might be wrong). It’s actually interesting how critical he was of himself, of all people.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@EJ
Tap gets a pass. Obviously 🙂

@Petal

Remember when Jay-Z used to have an umlaut over the y?

Jason Derülo…

Valentine
Valentine
8 years ago

I read master and margarira. But my favourite book is Idiot by Dototevsky.

Weatherwax
Weatherwax
8 years ago

@ Latte Cat

I’m also a very fast reader and have considered it a plus when reading fiction, because I can go back and reread almost immediately and get different things.

As I get older, I recognise that means I’m not getting everything on the first read, and I’m enjoying books that are written in a way that forces me to slow down. Books written in dialect force me to slow down to spoken word speed and I loved Wolf Hall partly because it also slowed me down. If you haven’t read it, Mantel doesn’t use speech marks and only says he (or she) said. In a discussion involving more than two men, you have to slow to a crawl to work who is saying what.

In my twenties, I suspect I might have hurled it aside in frustration (although I hope not), but I enjoyed the discipline of reading more slowly and it’s one of my favourite books – not just because of this writing style!

I still read very quickly, but I now appreciate that doing it means I have a different experience from a slow reader, and i might be missing out. In no way judging, just my experience.

NB Less aware of it with the sequel. I would be interested to know her writing choices with this.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Valentine
I had to give up on Idiot about halfway through because it was really dense and difficult for me to read (I read super slow and if there’s too much going on even slower). I’m still sad about that because I hear such good things.

Weird (not wired) Eddie
Weird (not wired) Eddie
8 years ago

Reeding?? Oh, I guess this a thread on what we’re reading 😉 I’m re-reading a couple older books, “In Search of Ancient Ireland” and ” How the Irish Saved Civilization”, trying to find some long-forgotten Viking references which I was reminded of in one of the other threads. (Dalillama and Scildafreja) First time thru I’m reading “Lone Survivor: How We Became the Only Humans on Earth”. Paleoanthropology… I have an overactive nerd gene….

epitome of incomprehensibility

@EJ (The Other One) – from 2 pages ago – what do I think The Glass Bead Game is about? It’s about too many things! I will be long-winded and not give you a clear answer!

I didn’t read it as an allegory, though there are historical jokes and references. The book openly compares Castalia with monastic communities and classical universities (which might explain why the Castalia hierarchy is all men… still not the best excuse, IMO). I guessed that Plinio Designori was named after Pliny the Elder. (Why, though?) In any case it seems very distant from things that were happening at the time, such as WW2, though Knecht worries that Castalia could be easily destroyed by a coming war.

I guess I’d put it in the category of philosophical SF, neither utopia nor dystopia. One of the main problems with the Castalian hierarchy and the Glass Bead Game, in my view, is that they’re all based on past art/creativity, but making new art is frowned on. That would seem to lead to the system’s decline, war or no war. I also think Hesse is making fun of scholarship in general, though he seems fascinated by its possibilities.

(Side note: I’ve read a bit about Hesse’s book Siddhartha, enough to know he was interested in Buddhism, though not uncritically – so for him impermanence might not be such a sad/preventable thing.)

At the same time, Knecht’s individualism is also made fun of a bit…

– SPOILER ALERT –

…since the moment he Goes His Own Way, as it were, he dies – drowns after diving into cold water, trying to catch up with his student. His self-determination can’t overcome physical weakness; he doesn’t get to live out his dream of being a simple teacher; but he does leave behind his student and the “biography”.

I have a pet theory that Tito Designori is the narrator. YMMV, as TV Tropes would say.

Gah, that was long winded and I didn’t give you a clear answer. Ask an Eng Lit graduate a simple question…

Dalillama
8 years ago

A couple of the books people have mentioned have reminded me of The Watchmaker of Filigree Street, a romance set in Victorian London with a hint of sci fi and a large dose of homosexuality.

authorialAlchemy
authorialAlchemy
8 years ago

Well, I BOUGHT Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud and I will start reading it soon. I still pick up an obscure sci-fi I bought that I still haven’t gotten through because it’s emotionally hard to read.

Itsabeast
Itsabeast
8 years ago

I’m reading Snow Crash, an early 90’s cyberpunk/cyberpunk parody that is a weird combination of serious and silly, and very entertaining.

Also How to Get it On, 8th Edition.

@Fabe
Shadowrun was one of the first RPG’s I played, and I’ve had a lot of fun playing it. I don’t play it anymore, though, because I discovered Cyberpunk (Cyberpunk 2020 in particular). I was skeptical at first–with Shadowrun I could have the cyberpunk stuff and also elves and dwarves and magic. I soon realized breadth is sometimes antithetical to depth.

@Podkayne
So you’re liking Dark Forest? I might check it out. I wasn’t going to because the second two Southern Reach novels made me leery of sequels.

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@epitome of incomprehensibility:
That’s very interesting, thank you. I’m always fascinated in seeing different people’s takes on novels, especially if they know more about it than I do. Literature is one of these things that, if I lived my life again like some sort of Harry August, I could easily spend a lifetime on.

When I read Glass Bead Game, I understood it as being a satire on European civilisation – that Hesse thought it had gotten so obsessed with hierarchy and with its past glories that there was increasingly little life within it. I have no idea how orthodox this view is.

I’m interested by your placing the novel within the science fiction genre – is that commonly accepted? Do we know if contemporary or later science fiction writers read or were influenced by it?

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HERE BE SPOILERS – YE BE WARNED

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I’m fascinated by your comment about Going His Own Way and then dying because he’s too weak – I hadn’t thought of it that way but it really makes sense. To me it was a profoundly Christian moment: one must leave this frail, sinful flesh behind in order to progress to a better world.

Dalillama
8 years ago

@itsabeast
If you like Snow Crash, you should give The Diamond Age a try.

MPG
MPG
8 years ago

Victor Hugo’s Notre-Dame de Paris is enthralling me at the moment. As someone whose main exposure to the story had previously only been the Disney movie, and knowing how that version greatly lightened the tone, I went in expecting a serious and weighty read, but I’m finding myself surprised by the wit and humanity in Hugo’s writing.

The lengthy discourses on Parisian architectural history are a little wearying – I tend to get bored very quickly if an author decides to filibuster and find myself flipping ahead to get things moving again – but I enjoyed them here, mostly for Hugo’s excellent descriptiveness.

Kootiepatra
8 years ago

@sunnysombrera – I play almost no FPS games, but I get a kick out of Overwatch. I really, really like games that have a cooperative play aspect, and this scratches that itch for me.

It’s most fun if you have friends who play with you, but I usually end up playing solo and have a pretty decent time. It’s a bit of a toss-up as to whether or not you’ll end up being teamed up with nice people (as with any online multiplayer), but I’ve yet to get stuck in a game with a straight-up abusive player. I like it.

@Margie Chadwick – I literally just got done ordering Shrill for my Kindle. I’ve followed Lindy West off and on for years, and I’ve loved the excerpts of her book that she’s shared, so I’m pretty stoked to finally get to dig in on it.

On topic, I’ve mostly been reading blogs. I love good novels–I’m just bad at making time to read them. But I’m currently slowly working through The Human Division by John Scalzi.

In the to-read category, like I said, I just sent Lindy West’s Shrill to my Kindle. I also just ordered a paperback copy of The Way We Never Were by Stephanie Coontz–a book that has been on my “must check it out” list for a while. Apparently she dispels the imaginary nostalgia about how idyllic family life was in the Leave-It-to-Beaver era, so it’s very much piqued my interest.