It’s good to know that Men’s Rights Activists are taking on the issues that truly matter the most to men — like fictional princesses cucking “nice guys” in the plumbing business.
I found the meme above on A Voice for Men’s Facebook page, with this explanation:
Mario learns a hard lesson for white knighting and the Princess just learns…a hard lesson. This one is for fun.
But some of the commenters there had a hard time finding the humor in it.
Keep fighting the good fight against completely imaginary problems, MRAs. Excelsior!
Well, to be fair, we do know for a fact that boobs exist. (CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS !)
In fact, I’m converting right now.
ETA : @Alan
Is it weird that I actually, somehow, feel sorry for Vivian James ?
Kidnap is spelled wrong…
But are you sure we have the “right” to boob worship since those don’t exist? I think we need someone in here to confirm that “rights” exist at the same time as boobs
@ sinkable john
No, a surfeit of empathy is a good thing.
There is a theory that anthropomorphising ‘non living’ things especially computers (and presumably by extension fictional characters) is to be encouraged as it promotes better behaviour in the real world. People who don’t say please and thank you to machines end up not saying it to people.
But no doubt Scildfreja could enlighten us on that.
@ Alan Robertshaw
We’d BETTER say “please” and “thank you” to the computers… when they take over the world, they’ll remember who was nice to them… and who WASN’T!!!
@WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
We’ll hafta pray in secret, hide our faith. Travel to a new land on distant shores to escape the tyranny of Milk Dud’s robot kings. There we be free to worship as pleases Katie of Mastos, our Lady and Mistress. Upon this suggestively shaped rock, shall our church be built!
@John
Yeah, Viv is a cutie. Pretty cool design, ya know? She deserves a real story and characterization and whatnot. Unfortunately, she’s stuck with gamebro erofic. Yuck…
Given that it’s canon that Peach can fly and light things on fire with her mind, I think there’s no way around the fact that she and Bowser are having a consensual relationship. They must both really be into kidnapping play.
It’s Mario who’s the asshole ruining things for everyone.
Scildfreja, thanks!
@Alan
Okay that definitely makes sense to me. I experience it as I write, when I deal with this strange burden of knowing I am responsible for what happens to the fictional characters I create.
@Weird Eddie
Morpheus’ Gamble ?
@Axe
That color scheme though. The hair’s fine (totally not a sucker for redheads, nah) but the clothes ? Nope nope nope.
Peach/Bowser is a popular pairing in Mario fanfiction, usually with Mario depicted as either villainous or misguided for trying to “rescue” Peach from their mixed-species relationship. Now that I’ve revealed I know that, I’ll show myself out.
@Axe
Alright I’m in, so long as there are plenty of seagulls to eat on these distant shores. That way we can all live to 329
(I know, beating nearly dead horses but all that was *way* too funny to stop)
I @ weird eddie
Shit! Computers are all about memory. And they can run SQL databases so they won’t even have to check that list twice. You’re right. Excuse me, I have an IPad to apologise to. (It’s probably really hard not to move the display just as I click on a link; I should have understood that)
@ sinkable john
Hey, I rocked that jumper!
In the boob worshipping cult, is the deity a pair of boobs or is it Tyrion Lannister?
I once met a woman who said that she felt lonely and unable to talk to men until she encountered Vivian James. Blown away by the male support for Ms James, she said that she tried to model her behaviour on her.
It’s the saddest thing I have ever heard.
@John
You’re among friends *whispers ‘one of us’ repeatedly*
Best part! It’s anti stylish, ‘fuck off, I do what I want’ wear. But it’s not edgy and dark. She just loves that sweater. None of it really goes together, and she’s proud of it. You fuckin go, grrl! Preferably on some adventures. Maybe a vidya related mystery? Add a diverse cast of younguns, and that’s SJW, game nerd Scooby Doo. Well, I’m officially amped!
Also, just socks – shoes = win!
@WTF
No seagulls. Only mammals, I’m afraid ?
@EJ
Excuse me, I need to pick my heart up off the floor…
I had to google Vivian, sorry. So, (according to a post in “Vice”…) anti-feminist gamers create a character who is kinda feminist for a pro-feminist game creation group. The character becomes a kinda icon for female gamers so to redeem themselves, the anti-feminist gamers hafta demean the character while taking credit for creating her…. Is that kinda right? ‘Scuse me while I go untie my brain, it’s gone all “Gordian Knot”
Well, damn. And here’s me having just gone back to blonde.
@WWTH
I think Dionysus might object to some johnny-come-lately claiming that title, and a little research reveals that the Zulu goddess Mbaba Mwana Waresa probably beats him out, on account of having the tits personally (she is the goddess of, among other things, fertility and beer)
@EJ
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@WWTH
Both.
@Alan, Axe
Nothing wrong with the jumper, but the green/purple color scheme is meant to be reminiscent of a 4chan rape joke meme. It’s referred to as “Piccolo dick” if you want to look it up, but honestly you’re probably better off taking my word for it and not wasting your time and braincells on that.
The idea is that after seeing the meme enough, you can’t dissociate the colors from it and get triggered everytime. Or something. So yeah, even the visual design is fucked up.
@EJ
Where’s the option to clear the brain cache again ?
@ sinkable john
So to demonstrate they’re not misogynists they create a female character that’s deliberately designed to induce PTSD in rape survivors?
You know I wish that GG chap hadn’t been banned. I genuinely would be fascinated to hear how they rationalise that.
@Gaters (via John)
Piccolo is a loving father figure to a mixed race boy who isn’t his. He’s made mistakes, but he’s making up for them 1 day at a time. Also, he’s a badass, asexual, fighter for peace. Piccolo (probably) doesn’t even have a dick, you fake geek boy assnuggets. And he definitely doesn’t belong to you
She flies Piccolo’s colors, cos he’s awesome. That’s my headcanon, and they can’t take it from me
Not really. VJ was never meant to be a feminist character by the GG’s who created her. She was meant to be a shield. GG is built on misogyny, and after a while the media noticed that. VJ was intended to counter the accusation of GG misogyny. “Look, we can’t be misogynist, we have a female character who supports us!”
She was also used as a weapon sometimes, because VJ doesn’t complain about video games being problematic shit sometimes, she just plays the games she likes and doesn’t play the games she doesn’t like. This was intended to model the behavior the GG’s wanted real life women to display: just sit down and be quiet, ladies! Only men are allowed to talk about games being good or bad!
4chan being 4chan, it took a hot minute for VJ to be drawn into porn. VJ also wears purple and green to evoke the “daily dose,” a 4chan rape meme, so there’s also that.
I don’t actually agree that she’s a “cool” character. Her character is to chide real women for daring to speak in public, and to shield misogynists from accusations of misogyny. I know that some non-GG women have tried to claim the character, but I don’t agree with that either. She’s a 4chan creation and a pretty toxic one.
One bespoke ramble, then!
Frankly, that comes part-and-parcel with how our brains generate behaviour. Any display of empathy reinforces the state. Like everything it seems, it’s based mostly on habit. Exercise your empathy muscles and you’ll find that you can empathize with the toaster in the morning.
I imagine that computers and other complex systems with varying modes of interaction are especially prone to this because our brain models computer behaviour much the same way we model human behaviour – we have underlying stereotypes which we use to predict future outcomes. Reacting to a computer and reacting to a human aren’t entirely the same, but they use the same cognitive machinery. Our future-prediction brainmeats are the same for humans and computers, after all.
We’re all animists at heart – everything has a spirit. That’s just how brains work. I’ve been trying to learn to embrace that!
Thanx, Policy. So, basically created for the purpose of being demeaned. How surprising….
@Dalillama
Is this close enough ? ’cause I like my religion with guitars.
@Alan
Y’know, it actually rekindles my faith in humanity somehow. Since there appears to be no limit to how low someone can go, surely there mustn’t be an upper one either, right ?
…Right ?
@Axe, PoM
I agree that there’s not much to redeem about VJ, from the start. But since I’m completely DB-illiterate, I’m glad you cleared the Piccolo part and explained why their claiming is so wrong.
As an aside, I’m glad there’s so many SJW writers (that includes me !) and designers and everything-ers. Gonna be hard for asshats to claim our stuff. That’s a nice perk.
One of the things I do find interesting about Vivian James is that she never seems to be happy or having fun in the pics drawn of her by channers. Disregarding the porn, she always looks disapproving and even angry. Even when she’s depicted playing video games, which is supposedly her passion, she looks like she’s having the opposite of fun.
I don’t know if this was a conscious decision on the part of the channer artists, or if they just unconsciously can’t conceive of a gamer who isn’t angry all the time.