One of the many strange things about Breitbart’s alleged “tech editor” Milo Yiannopoulos is how much he cares about convincing people he doesn’t care.
The self-described “provocateur” even dressed up as a literal clown for his recent profile in Out Magazine.
You’ve no doubt heard about the Out piece already; it’s been a teensy bit controversial. But what you probably didn’t know is that Salon sent a camera crew to his photoshoot with photographer Jill Greenberg. And that along with the camera crew they sent writer (and friend of We Hunted the Mammoth) Amanda Marcotte.
“Perhaps I got a bit caught up in his self-mythologizing,” she writes in her account of what followed, “which is why I thought he would have some fun answering provocative questions while he was getting his picture taken.”
Turns out Milo did not have much fun with her questions:
I never did get good answers to my questions, though I did learn that Yiannopoulos likes to reduce feminism to “angry lesbians” supposedly tricking naive young women into getting too fat to get boyfriends.
But I did learn one important fact: Milo Yiannopoulos is not playing around. He is utterly sincere about his far right views.
He is sincere enough that he lectured me for about 15 minutes, and got so caught up in the moment that he seemingly forgot that he was half-naked while wearing a wig and make-up. He was sincere enough to get genuinely wound up during this time.
Ultimately, he was having so little fun with her questions that he — perhaps channeling his idol Donald Trump — threw a fit and demanded she leave the premises.
He was so sincere that, when the Salon team shut off the cameras in order to move into another vantage point, he demanded that I leave the room, refused to answer any more questions, and called me a “bitch.”
The best part of all this? You can watch some of these testy exchanges on video over on Salon. There are two different versions of the video posted there; the one at the top has more Milo in it.
Turns out Milo is not so much a sad clown as a mad clown.
@Axecalibur,
Nothing personal, but I have noticed that you come across as a very annoying policeman on this forum.
I think that most of your posts are bullshit.
I stand by my opinion, you have yours.
Have a nice day, bye bye…
One thing I’ve learned from my POC friends – white gay men who are attracted to GMOC are just as likely to be racist garbage people as the white gay men who are NOT so attracted.
Milo Yiannopolous certainly demonstrates this.
@Hambeast
I don’t talk about gay man in particular. I don’t believe that gay men want to be women.
I also don’t believe that misogynyst men want to be women.
But I believe that there is a correlation between very misogynyst feminine men and the desire to be a woman.
Hey, Kafka! What about my very polite and not at all police-like response to your post? Are you one of those commenters who only respond to men?
Milo actually already has whined about the pushback he’s had from the gay community, claiming that as a gay male he’s “not allowed” to be a right-winger.
Oops! Kafka, your response got crossed with my second one. Apologies.
Okay. I don’t get what the difference is here. What’s the correlation?
Thus Spake ZaraRichard Roller:
Oh boy, THIS argument again.
I’m not “in charge” of what gay men “are allowed to say.” I didn’t say Out shouldn’t be “allowed” to run an article publically ego-massaging Milo, playing up his dubious political influence and airbrushing away his harmful behavior. (“Allowed” by whom, anyway? Do you think I have an Opinion Suppression Cyberninja Squad on speed-dial?) Nobody is demanding Milo “toe the line” on any political position.
What I did was [b]criticize[/b] Out Magazine running an uncritical puff piece, which is a bad idea because Milo has previously shown himself to be racist, misogynist, and transphobic — his entire career is built on cuddling up to the alt-right’s ugly beliefs. I [b]criticized[/b] it as part of a larger trend in which allegedly pro-LGBT organizations only really care about the G, and are happy to throw the L, B, and [i]especially[/i] the T under the bus. I said it was a bad idea and Out should have thought better of it. I’m allowed to be [b]critical[/b] of the actions and opinions of others.
As you put it: It’s called free speech, bro.
@Hambeast,
Could you be more specific, the difference between what?
Richard Roller, sweetie, if an LGBT publication prints an article denigrating LGBT people, what would you call it?
@WWTH
“This dude just bailed you out”
-comedian Steve Hofstetter to a heckler when a worse heckler says some shit
@Kafka
That is exactly personal. You’re making an assessment of my actions and character. That’s what personal means
Quick question, is my policing annoying or me in general. Your statement was a bit ambiguous
Cmon, most!? A third tops…
I wasn’t expecting you to change your mind, let alone based on what i said. And, other than ‘this sounds like nonsense’, I didn’t put forward an opinion
Aight, I guess…
BTW: this is the person what said that ladies being misogynist is totes worse than when guys do it. Also that slaves are plenty to blame for maintaining their enslavement. I report, you decide…
@Kafka, while I understand your sentiments, you’re also throwing a whole lot of good people under the bus there. You’re saying “gay men who want to be women all have complexes and hate women!” This stomps all over people who are trans, and people who have legitimate psychological issues (and, shock of shocks, aren’t raging misogynists).
Milo’s a jerk, and you don’t need more than that. Hypothesizing about “effeminate gay men” and how they secretly want to be women and are raging misogynists is unbased, unfounded, and hurtful to a lot of good people.
And Axe might get pretty passionate and defensive sometimes, but he doesn’t throw entire demographics under the bus intentionally like that.
Just, think about it, okay? No hard feels. Give it some thought and time.
@RichardRoller
You defend a man
Who violates twitter’s laws
With distilled hate speech.
@Richard Roller
http://orig05.deviantart.net/81b6/f/2016/158/d/8/fluttershy_is_sceptical_by_tardifice-da5b20k.png
You smell like Mick Dash.
Pocket Nerd said it (in a post that’s migrating to the bottom of the page). Criticism ain’t silencing. And there’s lots about Milo to criticize. Or should we just shut up and close our eyes when we see something that we think’s wrong? Tell me how much goodness that tactic has won in the past.
Thus Spake Zarafeartheminotaur:
Oh gods. How did I not see that? Now I feel stupid for taking him seriously enough to respond.
Milo should bear in mind the story of Ernst Röhm. Except Mr Röhm was no clown. You may or may not be kidding. But the people you support are not.
Also, apparently I can’t remember the difference between BBcode tags and HTML tags. Sorry!
Shades of the women in the MGTOW scene. An excellent shield until the crickets start up and there’s no one else around to turn on…
**Unless you’re disagreeing with mine or an opinion I agree with. Then you don’t count, especially if you’re not a cishet white dude, but if you are, then you’re a beta mangina cuck.
You forgot something. ;3
@Richard Roller
That’s all you’ve got? You let us down. And now it seems you gave us up.
.@Scildfreja
I am sorry but I have never said that.
I have said that I believe (my personal opinion) that feminine misogynist men have a desire to be women. They haven’t been born female, and this is why they take their frustrations out on the female sex, by degarding /labeling women as biologicaly inferior (again, my personal opinion, based on encounters with such men)…
@ pocketnerd
Don’t worry, I’ve only just clicked that ‘Mick Dash’ in Scildfreja’s post is that guy who was posting before and not that horse.
Kafka – Okay, “what’s the difference?” is the wrong question, forget that. You said these two things:
Why do you think there’s a link here? What would the correlation be?
It just seems that you think that Milo wants to be a woman and I disagree.
I think he enjoys (for whatever reason, my thoughts on this are spurious at this point) feminine lifestyle trappings. I don’t think this means he wants to be a woman. He enjoys his male privilege too much to give it up and besides, he doesn’t have to because he can be an “effeminate gay man” if he wants that. Which is what he is doing.
Misogyny benefits men. Men are perfectly capable of being misogynists on that basis alone. It is bizarre to suggest that a given man, because of his sexual orientation and presentation, is a misogynist because he is actually a trans woman in denial/in the closet. More, given the prejudices against trans women, as well as gay men in general and “effeminate” gay men in particular, I actually think it’s dangerous and harmful.
Edit: Fixed ambiguous wording
@PI
I always forget that one! Can’t we just go back to the Right’s generic motto of “Free Speech = Free to agree with me”? I mean, why abandon a classic?!
I swear, these Dolt-Right kids these days.
Kafka – Viscaria said it much better than I did.