One of the many strange things about Breitbart’s alleged “tech editor” Milo Yiannopoulos is how much he cares about convincing people he doesn’t care.
The self-described “provocateur” even dressed up as a literal clown for his recent profile in Out Magazine.
You’ve no doubt heard about the Out piece already; it’s been a teensy bit controversial. But what you probably didn’t know is that Salon sent a camera crew to his photoshoot with photographer Jill Greenberg. And that along with the camera crew they sent writer (and friend of We Hunted the Mammoth) Amanda Marcotte.
“Perhaps I got a bit caught up in his self-mythologizing,” she writes in her account of what followed, “which is why I thought he would have some fun answering provocative questions while he was getting his picture taken.”
Turns out Milo did not have much fun with her questions:
I never did get good answers to my questions, though I did learn that Yiannopoulos likes to reduce feminism to “angry lesbians” supposedly tricking naive young women into getting too fat to get boyfriends.
But I did learn one important fact: Milo Yiannopoulos is not playing around. He is utterly sincere about his far right views.
He is sincere enough that he lectured me for about 15 minutes, and got so caught up in the moment that he seemingly forgot that he was half-naked while wearing a wig and make-up. He was sincere enough to get genuinely wound up during this time.
Ultimately, he was having so little fun with her questions that he — perhaps channeling his idol Donald Trump — threw a fit and demanded she leave the premises.
He was so sincere that, when the Salon team shut off the cameras in order to move into another vantage point, he demanded that I leave the room, refused to answer any more questions, and called me a “bitch.”
The best part of all this? You can watch some of these testy exchanges on video over on Salon. There are two different versions of the video posted there; the one at the top has more Milo in it.
Turns out Milo is not so much a sad clown as a mad clown.
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Embarrassed toddlers
how dose five guys burger and fries fit into GG?
@Fabe
It has to do with the original hashtag/conspiracy theory in which Zoe Quinn screwed some dudes in a Five Guys or something, idk, before that Baldwin that played in Firefly made Gamergate a thing.
@Fabe
Five Guys Burgers and Fries is the cutesy name for the “controversy” at the heart of Gamergate (I’m sure the restaurant loves that, if it even knows). You can read more about it here: http://gawker.com/what-is-gamergate-and-why-an-explainer-for-non-geeks-1642909080
@Jack & kupo
OK, thanks.
So a.) I’m super late, b.) I’m not a regular commenter (although I read the comments, but normally you guys are so great I feel rather superfluous) but in case anyone is still reading:
Misogynistic femme men are not that way because they are “jealous of women,” they are that way because they hate women and they have an opportunity to show it because they don’t even have a passing interest in having sex with women.
As a woman, dating a femme bi man, with many many femme queer male friends, trans friends, and who is not in the practise of spouting rampant homophobic transphobia/misogyny-apologism: I sincerely invite Kafka to fuck all the way off and stay there. And anyone who agreed with her, as well.
I love this blog and I love reading the comments, they make me feel better about things. This thread was borderline traumatising. David, I would implore you to ban Kafka, and/or maybe do a quick (like, 3 sentence) post on why that argument is bullshit/why transmisogyny in any form is never ok, if you can somehow find the time.
I’m going to go hug my fellow cool queers now.
Kafka, I’m putting you on moderation. If you want to post here you need to drop this shit, for various reasons the commenters here have already pointed out.
Welcome Headologist. I’m sorry this thread was shitty for you to read. I hope that it helped a little that people called it out. I hope you stick around for some of the more peaceful threads!
Holy shit there was a gator troll and I missed the party ! Feck. I missed it because I was busy gaming. Heh. But then the whole thread turned into a shit swamp, so I’m not sorry I missed that.
@PI
That was wonderful and perfect and a post of pure beauty. I don’t feel nearly as bad about missing the troll now. Everything I could’ve said and more, you said better. Thank you thank you thank you.
@Headologist
This right here. For what it’s worth, I personally think you just showed why you shouldn’t feel “superfluous” about commenting. I’m sorry this thread got so toxic and made you feel the way it did. You get all the hugs and some of my misandry pancakes.
Re : “He secretly wants to be a woman”. Yeah and I think you two secretly want to be trolls.
Seriously, attempting to justify (or explain, rationalize, whatever you’re calling it) Milo’s shittiness through transmisogynistic and internet-diagnostic-ey bullshit ? That woulda been fun from a troll. You aren’t trolls, so what the hell =|
Just take the hint when the entire commentariat tells you that you’re straying into bullshit territory, instead of standing your ground and “debating”.
@Headologist Seconding the welcome! When you’ve regained equilibrium please feel free to return. 🙂
General:
I’ve tried to comment on this thread a couple dozen times now, and not been able to because I being overwhelmed with tears. I meant to explain in more detail, but I just can’t, so the short is: fe,mme-butch is a spectrum of behaviour. It is totally unrelated to gender. There are femme trans men.femme cis men, butch trans womne, butch cis women, etc. etc. etc., and the someone’s place on that spectrum tells you absolutely NOTHING about their gender anymore than their sexual preference does.
@Headologist
Welcome in. Thank you for saying some of what I’d have said if I’d been able to muster the spoons.
@Virgin Mary
What the FUCK ‘comrade’?
Hugs, Dalilama. You are among people who love you.
@Dali
What EJ said. All the hugs and pancakes, and also the phrase “muster the spoons” makes me weirdly happy and I learned it thanks to you.
I’m sorry. I think Headologist is right in her reading. Milo really does hate women. I do however think Milo is a very unusual place with all his hangups from his patriarchalist belief system and his being put on a pedestal by his supporters, being cheered on for whatever he has to say, no matter how repugnant. Most folk don’t air their dirty washing in public. What stuff applies to Milo by no means applies to everybody else.
I suppose now is as good a time as ever for me to return from lurking again and from my self imposed exile.
Happy I missed the first argument. Sad I missed the second.
I agree with Paradoxical compleatly that GG killed our current chance to have gaming taken seriously as an art form which breaks my heart because there is so much good out in the feild right now. For ever call of Duty: This Time You Wear Hats Edition there is a Life is Strange or Massive Chalice or hell even Borderlands 2. But all of that is getting ignored because some entitled brats are throwing a tantrum.
The irony/hpocracy of it all is just kind of depressing. Especially the …
Rick Roller: Non-Platforming is a source of censorship.
But also
Rick Roller: Wait no! You can’t use MY platform! I made it with all my blood sweat and tears. Stop suppressing my freedom of speech!
Now I’m understanding just how unfair people are being. I mean, how dare we take a multi-billion dollar industry that is by now interwoven in the fabric of our culture to the point where huge swathes of people have played a video game and try to influence it in any way possible? Don’t you understand? You’re taking away their SAFE SPACE! If white cishet men can’t be allowed to essentially own a huge chunk of culture then
The Terrorists Wintheir suffering has been for naught! For Naught I tell you!Only doing this for fun because my definition of gamer is “A person who plays games”, but as far as geek cred…Atari 2600…heck, we had an Odyssey 2 even! I have a shelf full of video game systems, 3 of which I personally modded (And swapping out a hard drive on an original Xbox is no treat, let me tell you.) Hell, I even owned a Neo Geo Pocket Color. And yet I never thought “Well, my mom only plays hidden object games, therefore she is not a TWUE GAMAH!”
Damn, and I thought my Atari Lynx gave me serious gamer cred. (I’ll never forgive my sister for breaking it.)
I haven’t played a computer game in decades, however I did spend plenty of time in the 80s sitting down with a magazine called ‘Computer & Video Games’* typing in BASIC line by line so that eventually (after another few hours debugging) I could play a game that involved hitting the space bar when a cowboy slid drinks down a bar (it was actually more fun than I’m making it sound).
That must get me a few ‘gamer’ points surely?
(* Did exactly what it says on the tin, as we say here)
@Alan
I made a cupcake slide across the screen in BASIC. It was kind of impressive for a 10-year-old. 🙂
You’re not a real gamer unless you still own a Pong console, and played games on your Commie 64 that you typed into the computer in BASIC and saved on a tape drive.
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HAH HAH me too! Although I don’t remember the name of the mag and it might have been a different one. We also had a book with BASIC games in it. My dad would sit next to me reading out the code while I typed it in. The most fun* part was debugging afterward.
*not actually fun
Never did any real programming on the C64, although I did, through trial and error, figure out how Telengard randomly generated stats and reprogrammed the game to give me much better stats then was possible.
@ kupo & POM
To think, kids today will never have the satisfaction of finally spotting where you’d made a typo in a GOSUB loop.
(Thats real blood sweat and tears for gaming)
POM:
Maybe it was the same book I had:
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Typing in games from a book really taught you patience!
I used to make text based adventures in BASIC as a kid on a Commodore Vic 20, then later graduated to an Amstrad 464. I used to love those days. I could never really get the hang of programming on a ZX Spectrum, because I liked to actually type stuff in instead in the one key commands. I would have probably been pretty good at programming if I was allowed to stick to it. I was in the Brethren church and they disapproved of me doing technical work, because not only was it ‘worldly’, it was only for men. My father was in the electronics industry and it was OK for him, but not me. Most Brethren do not even approve of Internet or mobile phones as they see Satan as the ‘prince of the power of the air’. I did C&G certificates in IT and in Electronics, and they were always disapproving of it, as it didn’t prepare me to be a wife and a mother. Well, guess what? I’m still not a wife and a mother. I got very depressed and actually gave up doing a lot of my electronics and IT stuff because of them. I hate the influence they had over my life. Nowadays, I do not play games or program.
Sliding back in to say thanks for the welcome, and extra thanks for the pancakes.