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MGTOW: Keep women out of combat because they’re easily captured while on their periods

Women having their periods are easy to locate due to white shorts, big smiles
Women having their periods are easy to locate due to white shorts, big smiles

If a recent conversation on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit is any indication, MGTOWs remain baffled by and terrified of the human vagina.

In the midst of one of that subreddit’s typically dreadful discussions, the subject of women in the military comes up. One Reddit MGTOW lets it be known that he “f**king hope[s] women get drafted some day.”

One of his comrades steps in to MGTOWsplain just why he thinks that would be a bad, bad thing:
Some_one498 1 point 13 hours ago I hope they don't. Women would just get in the way which would cause more casualties. A woman wouldn't be able to carry a dying member away from danger. Depending on where they are their monthly cycles would cause the enemy to be able to catch them easier. So many reasons for women not to be in combat roles. It just doesn't make sense

So … how would that work, exactly?

Either Some_one498 thinks that

  1. Our enemies have secret squads of vagina-sniffing dogs that can detect the scent of menstrual blood from miles away, or
  2. Women are so incapacitated by the monthly visit from Aunt Flo that they’ll just lie there and let enemy soldiers capture them

I made Some_one498’s quote into a meme using a still from the Goldie Hawn comedy Private Benjamin, but somehow I don’t think it’s going to catch on.

private-benjamin_phixr

tl;dr: Vaginas are scary!

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chesselwitt
chesselwitt
8 years ago

I love this thread. I don’t tend to use euphemisms, but “cheering for ‘Bama” is my new favorite.

@Viscaria
To be clear, though, I was actually making an Anchorman reference with the whole bears thing. I have no idea if it’s actually true or not XD.

I read that line in Brick’s voice when I saw it.

@Penny Psmith
I’m quite lucky in that I don’t really have PMS;

Me too. I’m sympathetic to those that do, but I don’t understand it. I get a little gassy but that’s it.

My period, on the other hand, sucks. If I could spend the entire time with a hot water bottle on my abdomen I would. I just mainline ibuprofen. I also have heavy first few days plus a minor bleeding disorder which means I can bleed through an Always Infinity Overnight in 2 hours. It’s loads of fun.

@Kat
I did find out, however, that sleeping with the light on can make the time between your periods shorter. I had gotten down to 23 days between my periods (it should be 28 to 35, as I recall), when a friend told me about the connection.

@Rhuu
I don’t typically get bad cramps or anything, but my period lasts for about a week and comes between 23 and maaaybe 27 or so days? Like, it’s a bit frustrating that it just isn’t regular. i don’t have any reason to go in bc, but if it could be either regular or non-existant, i would be super happy!

I also have a 23-27 day cycle, but I don’t sleep with the light on so I can’t blame that. It’s always been that way. Not knowing when exactly it’s going to show up is annoying but I also don’t have any other reason to go on birth control and me remembering to take a pill every day, much less at the same time, is almost non-existent.

@Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Also, I read ZinkieJink’s comment in a Deep-South-white-suit-and-hat-fire-and-brimstone voice. It was so fun I did it again ?

Holy crap, that made it 1000% better! Perfect.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@Auntie

I am dressed in a manner that would not be out-of-place on Margaret Dumont in an office-based Marx Brothers comedy, complete with pearls

Ha cha cha cha! 😀

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

Re: cycle length, mine is 25 days +/- 5 days. 20 and 30 day cycles are rare, but I can never predict when they’ll come with that kind of range and none of the trackers I’ve tried have predicted it with any accuracy. Actually they always predict the exact mean of the data I’ve provided which is not helpful. I’m tempted to write my own that actually looks at deviations.

(((Hambeast))) Now With Extra Parentheses
(((Hambeast))) Now With Extra Parentheses
8 years ago

Shaenon said (way back on page 1)

I’m not amused at all by their insistence on pretending that servicewomen don’t exist at all. It’s disgusting to treat the women who defend them with such contempt.

As a cis woman veteran of the USAF, I find it hard to take these guys seriously. It’s all too clueless to not to be amused by.

Menzers seem to think that after Basic Training and tech school, you get thrown out into military life and that’s it, you have to survive on the aforementioned training and your wits. Nothing could be further from the truth!

There’s a LOT of training involved in military life, all the time. In any given year, I had to go through First Aid, CPR, and Buddy Training at a minimum. Before transfer overseas, we had to qualify on M-16s and .38 handguns, which also meant more training. While overseas, those of us in office jobs had to be trained in “war skill” jobs, gas mask training (with tear gas) and participate in base-wide exercises. That training was quarterly, at minimum and we had base-wide exercises twice yearly. My war skill job was Disaster Preparedness and we did our own Broken Arrow exercises in addition to the base-wide ones. I got to train in search and recovery, hazardous material handling, personnel decontamination (radiation), and NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) defense.

I did all these things while sometimes menstruating, too! Lawks!

I’m now post-menopausal, but I can share some amusing menopause stories, if there’s a period related comment slowdown.

sillybill
sillybill
8 years ago

jorge, – ‘the purpose of this blog is…’

I’ll go for number 3 – mocking the mra “movement”. I think everyone is doing a hell of a good job of it.

kat – oh come on now, plants are not injured. I have a friend who used to use sponges, she would rinse them out into her watering can and sprinkle it on her houseplants.

I was at an antiwar rally once (we’ve been in Iraq how long?) and the cops were being their usual brand of asshole – we were all hanging out in the paddy wagon and one of the women pulled out her cup and dumped the blood out all over the floor. When they pulled us out to book us they flipped out a little bit – “who’s bleeding, who’s cut?” I don’t think they ever figured it out.

I got kicked in the balls playing soccer in high school once, it hurt like hell but I got over it in an hour or so – the girl who kicked me though was apologizing for months. It would be nice if they were retractable.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@sillybill

It would be nice if they were retractable

Except when one of em decides to just hide away where it no longer belongs. Like fuckin landing gear, these things sometimes. Super uncomfortable, and they really don’t fit very well up in there. Do I leave it in, do I nudge it out? Not a frequent occurrence, but it’s no fun all the same

It’s not as bad as accidentally sitting on em tho, so, on 2nd thought, voluntary retraction sounds like a great idea…

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
8 years ago

Monzach:

My personal favorite euphemism for periods has to be “communists have stormed the Winter Palace”. It’s descriptive and has a historical reference built right into it.

“White Guard(TM) menstrual pads for when you don’t want the Red to show. The choice of Miss Finland 1918 – now available with right wing only!”

(Finnish civil war reference. The anti-communist White Guards are called literally that in English, or “protection collectives” in Finnish. Finland’s map image is conventionally seen as a silhouette of young woman, where the skirt hem (southern part) was briefly taken over by communists. Literal bloodshed ensued.)

Aunt Podger
Aunt Podger
8 years ago

@Arctic Ape: I. Love. That.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Arctic Ape

They sound revolutionary; especially for the independent woman.

(I’ve got my coat)

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
8 years ago

Anti-revolutionary actually, but that “independent woman” thing was right on mark considering Finland’s history with Russia/USSR.

Schnookums Von Fancypants, Social Justice Wario
Schnookums Von Fancypants, Social Justice Wario
8 years ago

I’m totally psyched to try out one of Jinkies arguments. I’m going to go up to a group of people who’re talking about something I don’t like and scream “You have no right to have me as an audience to your depravity!”

And then I’m going to stand there, just glaring at them.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
8 years ago

@Scildfreja Unnýðnes

SLOW MOTION KITCHEN FLOOD:
http://cg-fluids.com/portfolio/realflow-slow-motion-flood/

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ Arctic Ape

Yeah. I should have said ‘almost revolutionary’. I was trying to work in something about stopping the bloodshed, but arguably of course that might not be the correct claim (my Russian and Finnish friends have varied opinions on that)

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
8 years ago

Not to prevent bloodshed but to keep the red from showing.

(I’ll go to sleep now.)

EJ (The Orphic Lizard)

@Axe:

Except when one of em decides to just hide away where it no longer belongs.

I once had that happen to me during a presentation. It wasn’t that painful, but there was no way to gracefully remove it while I was standing there with Powerpoint slides up, so it was awkward as hell.

(That’s probably TMI.)

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
8 years ago

I can share some amusing menopause stories, if there’s a period related comment slowdown.

Looks like the flow just keeps on coming 🙂 (though the thread would only be the better for some menopause stories too. And of course the textually testicular tales.)

Blackrising
Blackrising
8 years ago

These guys really don’t get that ‘woman’ is not just a homogeneous mass, do they?

For every woman who cramps up during her period, there’s another who feels completely fine. I never had cramps in my life (but bloating, now and again), but in exchange I tend to bleed a lot.

And the only noticable change in mood I have? I get horny the week before my period hits. Like ‘next person coming around the corner gets climbed like a tree’ horny.

Say, would that be a plus in their book? Or just more proof of how all wimmenz are evil slutty cuckolding whores?

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
8 years ago

@Fishy Goat.

Or. OR.
https://youtu.be/HNnCL0q3EuI

(((Hambeast))) Now With Extra Parentheses
(((Hambeast))) Now With Extra Parentheses
8 years ago

Confession: My menopause stories are actually perimenopause stories. I was fortunate* to have simply stopped having periods. The only weird thing is that I got smelly armpits, like I did in puberty, which hasn’t gone away.

*I did take a supplement called Amberen for a couple of years (on and off) which I found helpful, but I don’t know that it was responsible for my never having any hot flashes. I do know that I had to halve the regular dosage, or I constantly felt pre-menstral.

Wanda
Wanda
8 years ago

Off topic perhaps, but I’m not sure any pad, no matter how magical, would make me feel comfortable enough to go hiking in super short khaki shorts. I understand the ad was probably from the 70s-early 80s, before tampons were a big thing and definitely before menstrual cups were a thing (they are wonderful), but that image made me cringe. I had to wear khakis for a summer job and when I was on the rag, it made me want to run to the bathroom every hour to check my butt. And that was just standing around. I didn’t have to hike up a mountain.

On a light day, though, it’d probably be fine. I still think tampon/pad commercials are weird, probably because they’re created by men who don’t actually understand periods. There have been some great ones, though. Like the one with the blue liquid and the one with the soundtrack from a Tribe Called Red. No surprise they were created by the same company.

JoshFreeua
JoshFreeua
8 years ago

On a prior topic, I’ve been kicked in the pink sporran before. It was unpleasant but it wasn’t as bad as I expected: a really bad migraine hurts worse and for longer.

For me it doesn’t hurt much immediatley, then a few minutes later I experience nearly debilitating aches that can stop me from doing much other than bending over and hoping it passes quickly. This can even happen pfrom a solid tap I just barely felt.

Josh
Josh
8 years ago

Seem to somehow fucked up my name in that last comment…

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@Blackrising

Say, would that be a plus in their book? Or just more proof of how all wimmenz are evil slutty cuckolding whores?

Yes ?

@Wanda

I still think tampon/pad commercials are weird, probably because they’re created by men who don’t actually understand periods

Not a menstrual ad, but ‘a woman’s V’? You serious? (sidebar: I actually really like this commercial. Stupid, but the MANtage gets me everytime ?)

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I just can’t handle the cup. Getting in it is fine. Getting it out is another story. The time I tried, there was some spillage. It looked like a scene from a horror movie in the bathroom by the time I finally fished it out.

Sorry for the TMI everyone, but I just wanted Miggs to read it. You know he’s still lurking and will sock again. And again. And again. And again.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@WWTH
I would totally get that smart cup that tracks your volume if my cervix weren’t so sensitive.