So the alt-right now has a semi-official logo, introduced to the world by Richard Spencer, the guy who came up with the term in the first place, at a weird press-conference/debutante ball for the Nazi-based movement in Washington DC on Friday.
Here it is:
Spencer, who designed the logo himself, “said it had a young, futuristic look, in contrast to the flags and eagles that adorn the logos of the past,” according to Mother Jones.
But one aspect of the logo unintentionally recalls a rather memorable bit of white supremacist branding from years past — the infamous KKK hood. So I’ve taken the liberty of photoshopping-up what I think is a far more honest logo, which you can see at the top of the post.
It’s hard to overstate just how weird the press conference seems to have been. Its location was secret, so reporters had to go to another location first to learn where it really was — a technique popularized by raves in the late 80s and 90s.
“Reporters covering the event were instructed to go to the entrance of the Old Ebbitt Grill, near the White House,” Mother Jones notes.
There, they would encounter a man in a charcoal suit and brown tie who would reveal the new location of the conference.
During the press conference itself, Spencer proudly declared that the alt-right was free of “cucks,” and waxed poetic about what the world might be like if people like him ran it.
“If the alt-right were in power, we would all have arrived here via magnetic levitation trains,” he told the crowd, according to Mother Jones.
We would have passed by great forests and beautiful images of blond women in a wheat field with their hands, running them through the wheat.
Keep dreaming, dude.
But feel free to use my improved logo!
I really wonder if there is a scientific reason why bigots are so bad at graphic design.
This looks like a mountain, and then two other mountains turned on their side.
Is it supposed to be floating in space? That’s dumb.
@authorial
Authoritarian mindset does not like other thoughts and therefore won’t express as many ideas?
The right hand image reminds me of how you fold cloth diapers.
The whole graphic looks like diaper folding ideographs.
Appropriate.
@aA (teehee)
I’d posit that it’s got to do with empathy. They, being hateful assholes, have pretty atrophied empathic faculties. But the heart of design is the instantaneous exchange of ideas and feelings between artist and viewer. A designer is meant to know their audience just as well as themself. Except self awareness/reflection is also a rarity in that crowd. They only know what they think is cool, and they don’t much know or care what anyone else thinks. It’s not entirely wrong to do art that way, but they’re not likely to engage anyone. I mean, when their ideas are as hideous as their art, what else do they have?
Axe’s explanation makes a lot of sense to me. There seems to be a pattern with that specific overly egotistical mindset and a lack of any creativity.
Besides there’s a pretty distinct pattern of shitty people making shitty art. Not to Godwin, but think Hitler to begin with…
It just looks like toilet paper to me.
The other meaning of ‘hands’, as in people who do manual labor, gives that quote an even more sinister undertone.
So, they can’t crank out thumbnails for shit. This really does look like a first draft, like they thought about it for a little while, then said, “That’s good, I’ll draw it!”
Hm yeah, I thought about that too. A lack of self-awareness and inability to accept criticism and other points of view make for bad artists. You need to be critical of what you’re doing. “Does this look right? Is this engaging work? Is it meaningful?” I have trouble doing that sometimes, but it has more to do with a couple comorbid mental disorders (ADHD and rejection sensitivity syndrome) rather than my personality.
If these people actually started thinking critically about who they are and what they’ve done, even if they just started thinking about their art that way, they might actually grow as people and stop being such shitheads.
But that almost never happens.
@throwaway
*grimaces intensely*
@aA
‘Is this even readable to anyone not already inside my own head?’ 🙂
Well, sir, there’s nothing on earth
Like a genuine,
Bona fide,
Electrified,
Six-car
Monorail! …
What’d I say?
Monorail!
What’s it called?
Monorail!
That’s right! Monorail!
I hear those things are awfully loud…
It glides as softly as a cloud.
Is there a chance the track could bend?
Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
What about us brain-dead slobs?
You’ll all be given cushy jobs.
Were you sent here by the devil?
No, good sir, I’m on the level.
The ring came off my pudding can.
Take my pen knife, my good man.
I swear it’s Springfield’s only choice…
Throw up your hands and raise your voice!
Monorail!
What’s it called?
Monorail!
Once again…
Monorail!
But Main Street’s still all cracked and broken…
Sorry, Mom, the mob has spoken!
Monorail!
Monorail!
Monorail!
Monorail!
Mono… D’oh!
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Find: Monorail Replace: Maglev
Okay, after I read the comments, I realized that the graphic is an “A” and an “R.”
Of course, a neo-Nazi would laugh and laugh and laugh at how stupid I am.
Here’s the thing, alt-right: A logo should be instantly understood by everybody older than — I dunno — five? Somewhere around that age.
So you fascists are just not getting your message across. Try harder.
I wonder – Do feminists hate men as much as much as blacks hate whites, Asians and Hispanics? Isn’t feminism really the KKK of entitled and privileged gynocentrists?
Feminsm: Women don’t have the freedom to not be a part of it and men don’t have the freedom to be against it. Where have I heard that before? Didn’t this line of entitled, narcissistic, psychopathic thinking emerge somewhere in early 1930s Germany? Hmmm.
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Oh my. Well, I guess this ain’t so surprising! Hi Mark!
You want to do this again, Mark? Last time I actually engaged with you, you had a fit, melted down, and abandoned thread. You want do do that again? Cause I can read you like a book. You want to do that? Or would you rather I leave you be to bubble away in your hate for awhile yet?
Honestly, Mark, this isn’t healthy for you. Let go of your anger, it’s blinded you.
Does MarkyMark hate feminists as much as they hate black people?
Do they feel revulsion deep down when they speak of the KKK in a negative sense in order to assert a connection with feminism?
Can questions possibly get more rhetorical?
MarkyMarkism: attempt to reassign peoples feelings about things they hate by implying threats to named undefined subjective positive things, and unnamed defined negative things, by way of an asserted contrast between perceived socially opposite groups and mirrored relationships with the positive thing.
There is a formula to bullshit that sounds profound but is totally meaningless aside from the manipulation via feelings associated with objects. It’s the same class of BS that Trump uses but from a different chapter with more convoluted applications.
@MarkyMarkedMarksMarkeseMarkeley
Feminism Good!
No Feminism is Bad!
Make up your mind.
I feel like I’m running out of ways to describe his patterns in haiku.
Gah I messed up the last line I should have said “Make up your mind dude” or “Make a decision” Which one shall you pick?” or “Can’t have both at once.” Or something better.
I don’t think anybody else has pointed this out, so: The whole “Magic trains” nonsense is a dog whistle for Hitler as well as Ayn Rand. They don’t realise that “At least he made the trains run on time” is supposed to be a joke about how there’s nothing good to say about that waste of eukaryotes, not praise for his supposed leadership qualities.
You think so? I’ve always interpreted it as expressing the essential fascism of the suburban middle-class grumbler – that, sure, Hitler was The Enemy and thus Wrong, but maybe it would all be worth it if he could make their morning commute that bit more efficient.
(He actually couldn’t, of course, but, hey, conservatism does not run on facts.)
authorialAlchemy
Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, but the nazis had some pretty iconic design work.
Their modern would-be imitators lot spend far too much time in their own little echo chambers, and don’t really have a good handle on their own lack of taste, talent or understanding of the rest of humanity. Heil Dunning-Kruger.
Hi Mark!
Dear MarkyMark,
If you dislike something, the first question is to ask yourself why, and the second question is to ask other people why. An honest person will always try to gather as much information as possible about everything, including their own motivations.
The most important thing about this is to keep things as emotionally neutral as possible, because humans are very bad at reasoning when emotion gets involved. To this end, it’s useful to divorce ideas from the symbols and people associated with them. For example, the Soviets were enthusiastic supporters of universal literacy. I am not a fan of the Soviet Union and yet, when this idea is disassociated from them and examined by itself, I can see that it’s a good idea.
The opposite of this is to attempt to create associations between things where none exist. For example, in this thread you have tried to create an association between feminism and the KKK, and then a little later between feminism and the NSDAP. On the surface, this looks silly: it emotionally clouds the issue and makes it harder to resolve.
I’m going to take a guess here, based on your previous positions: you’re doing this not to persuade us, but because you’re afraid of being persuaded by us. You’re calling feminists Nazis and KKKers in an attempt to remind yourself that they’re evil, and so to prevent yourself from listening to us.
But you can’t stop us, MarkyMark. The longer you stay and the more feminists you meet, the more you’ll find yourself agreeing with us despite your best efforts. And when you’ve already used Nazi comparisons, where are you going to go from there? Feminism is going to worm its way into your brain, MarkyMark, whether you like it or not. Like the sexy, sexy butt of Ned Flanders.
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Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all
Nothing at all
Nothing at all
@MarkyMark
Where do you get your information that “feminists hate men” and “blacks hate whites . . .”? Why would you attempt to quantify a fictional hatred? What purpose would that serve? Do you think feminists hate men because you can’t convince a woman to have sex with you?
In what way are feminists members of the KKK? What’s the difference between “entitled” and “privileged”? What is it that we feel entitled to? What is this privilege that we have? Do you feel that feminists are acting like the KKK, not to mention acting as though we are entitled and privileged, because you can’t convince a woman — no woman, under any circumstances — to have sex with you?
What is the definition of “gynocentrists”? Do you think that because we focus on ourselves instead of your sexual urges that we are gynocentrists?
No woman or man is forced to be a feminist. Here’s proof: You, MarkyMark, have the freedom to be against it and you are exercising that freedom.
Isn’t it true that you make untrue allegations about feminists because you can’t get a woman to have sex with you? And isn’t it true that you blame us because, at least in your fantasy, without feminism women would have so few choices that one of them would have to have sex with you?
Isn’t it true that you see yourself as a victim of Nazis because you have no idea how to get a woman to have sex with you? And to soothe your wounded pride you come here to hurl vague, baseless accusations at feminists?
Oh please. Don’t try to convince us you’re a thinker. You don’t think — you just react. You can’t get a woman to have sex with you, so you lash out at us.
I have dark brown hair and green eyes. Does this mean I don’t get a wheat field to frolick in? 🙁
Wasn’t it Mussolini who was supposed to have made the trains run on time? I don’t know about Italian trains (I can’t remember, in my limited experience, one way or the other), but Japanese trains absolutely run on time. If the train is supposed to arrive at 10:43, the irritated muttering starts all up and down the platform if the little number ticks over to 10:44.
What’s with this obsession with wheat fields? Everything in my upbringing tells me it should be oat fields all the way.
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On topic of MarkyMark, is it bad that I replace most of those screeds with repetitions of marklar? I just find them more entertaining that way.