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New conspiracy theory: #HillarysBodyDouble is a plot to make Trump supporters look bad

I'm going to take a wild guess and say the real Hillary is ... the one that looks like her? (Click on pic for source)
I’m going to take a wild guess and say the real Hillary is … the one that looks like her? (Click on pic for source.)

So, you’ve heard about the Hillary Body Double thing, right?

If not, basically what happened is that some nitwit Trump supporters noticed that Hillary Clinton looked a bit thinner than usual at a photo-op yesterday several hours after she so famously fainted at the 9/11 memorial.

They concluded, naturally, that this was a counterfeit Hillary who just happens to look exactly like Hillary, but with different earrings and a somewhat smaller butt than they remember. And so the hashtag #HillarysBodyDouble started trending earlier today.

https://twitter.com/AltRight_News/status/775346651133276160

It didn’t take long before some of the slightly-more-reality-based members of Trump’s fanbase noticed that a lot of people were, well, kind of making fun of the hashtag. Like so:

https://twitter.com/JustinTaylorBE/status/775344725976952832

And so a new conspiracy theory was born, claiming that the Hillary body double conspiracy theory was itself a conspiracy — a “false flag” by evil leftists to make alt-rightists and other Trump fans look ridiculous. 

This new improved conspiracy theory is being promulgated by such icons of credibility as …

This dude who works for Alex Jones:

This alt-rightist:

https://twitter.com/AltRightToday/status/775312789267152896

Whoever this is:

This line of argument might be a teensy bit more persuasive had there not been quite so many obviously sincere alt-rightists and Trump fans — all with long histories of pro-Trump tweets, many with thousands if not tens of thousands of followers — declaring that the real Hillary had been replaced by a fake. Seriously, click through to any of these accounts and tell me that they’re “false flags.”

https://twitter.com/MissLizzyNJ/status/775298815289163776

https://twitter.com/nia4_trump/status/775404778264391680

https://twitter.com/trump2016fan/status/775311119485243393

https://twitter.com/ImagineAnna/status/775450722850770944

https://twitter.com/Billhic02785574/status/775304315300962304

https://twitter.com/SouthLoneStar/status/775404319315197952

Yes, DeplorableCherokee dude, the fact that her hair is parted on the other side, assuming one of the pics isn’t accidentally reversed, clearly proves that this ISN’T HILLARY!!!111!

https://twitter.com/jwd1967/status/775334420790247424

Yes, Jesus dude, the fact that she was wearing different earrings surely proves that she has been replaced by a WHOLE OTHER PERSON!

Meanwhile, others in the Trump camp, while not quite willing to endorse the conspiracy theory outright, were certainly willing enough to indulge those who had, by “asking questions” about, for example, the fact that Hillary wasn’t completely surrounded by secret service officers while leaving her daughter’s apartment yesterday.

https://twitter.com/Ricky_Vaughn99/status/775343783709855744

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/775356978482679808

JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!

Our old friend Theodore Beale (“Vox Day”) declared in a blog post today that

I’m not saying that the latest “Hillary Clinton” appearance was a body double, but something looks a bit different about the miraculously recovered version. …
To be honest, something about the shape of the woman’s body immediately struck me as “off”. Precisely what, I don’t know, but my immediate subconscious reaction was “who is that?” She’s a little too structurally squatty, as opposed to merely overweight like Hillary.
Stick to writing fantasy novels, dude; you clearly haven’t gotten the hang of reality.

The right-wing Daily Caller, meanwhile, offered the conspiracy theorists this bit of clickbait:

The best explanation of Hillary’s appearance at the now infamous photo op came from someone who is very definitely not an alt-rightist:

https://twitter.com/caulkthewagon/status/775437408733192192

But my favorite post in the #HillarysBodyDouble hashtag has to be this one from a slightly miffed 9/11 Truther

https://twitter.com/SemperLiber9/status/775401585073614849

We live in very weird times.

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EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

IP, you are on fire today. I’m giggling so hard that my SQL is looking weird.

Nick G
Nick G
4 years ago

The “Hillary Clinton’s body double conspiracy theory is a false flag” conspiracy theory is clearly itself a false flag aimed at making the Alt Right look stupid!

What’s more, the “”Hillary Clinton’s body double conspiracy theory is a false flag” conspiracy theory is itself a false flag” conspiracy theory is clearly itself a false flag aimed at making the Alt Right look stupid!!

And, as you may have guessed, the “””Hillary Clinton’s body double conspiracy theory is a false flag” conspiracy theory is itself a false flag” conspiracy theory is itself a false flag” conspiracy theory is clearly itself a false flag aimed at making the Alt Right look stupid!!!

Gert
Gert
4 years ago

@Nick G:

The “Hillary Clinton’s body double conspiracy theory is a false flag” conspiracy theory is clearly itself a false flag aimed at making the Alt Right look stupid!

What’s more, the “”Hillary Clinton’s body double conspiracy theory is a false flag” conspiracy theory is itself a false flag” conspiracy theory is clearly itself a false flag aimed at making the Alt Right look stupid!!

And, as you may have guessed, the “””Hillary Clinton’s body double conspiracy theory is a false flag” conspiracy theory is itself a false flag” conspiracy theory is itself a false flag” conspiracy theory is clearly itself a false flag aimed at making the Alt Right look stupid!!!

If you live in an alt-reality, alt this makes perfect sense!

Gert
Gert
4 years ago

People actually believe there is a #HillarysBodyDouble but don’t believe that 9/11 was carried out by the government. God help us.

Dunno ’bout G-d, but ‘VI’ definitely needs all the help he/she can get.

Sarah
Sarah
4 years ago

And so a new conspiracy theory was born, claiming that the Hillary body double conspiracy theory was itself a conspiracy — a “false flag” by evil leftists to make alt-rightists and other Trump fans look ridiculous.

That’s what they get for doing the Gamergate thing and having their “leaderless” movement that can be directed by anybody who shows up. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are people doing the Poe thing in the alt-right movement proper, and not just the #HillarysBodyDouble tag.

MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
4 years ago

I heard about this yesterday and I thought it was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Also, the incessant fussing and rumour spreading about her mental and physical fitness must just stop already. It is ridiculous and it’s based on nothing but pure sexism. There have been several presidents who have suffered from serious health problems, but these people are making a huge fuss over her sitting on stools occasionally. It is blatantly obvious that this is only happening because she is a woman, that they are pulling these ridiculous health problems out of their arses to undermine her campaign. Well I got news for you alt right dip shits, she is mentally and physically fit for presidency, which is more than anyone can say for Trump.

Sarah
Sarah
4 years ago

This is one of the numerous things that irk me about the mindset of these people: There is no truth, no reality. There are only aspects of truth, only points of view. Only appearances matter, only what the public can be made to believe.

If an outrageous claim is called out as the bullshit it is? If it was made by a well-known representative of the group, throw them under the bus. They were never one of us, they were an outlier (remember when some Men’s Righter tried to claim that Paul Elam was a fringe operative when he said something particularly terrible?). Or perhaps it was satire, a joke. If it was made anonymously, just claim it was a false flag planted by the devious enemy. It’s always No True Scotsman for these people.

Basically, do whatever the hell you want to, and then claim reasonable doubt when it backfires. We saw that in #GamerGate, we see it now. It’s the attitude of spineless, morally bankrupt, spoiled little brats who just want to watch the world burn because up in their privilege, they think the fire won’t reach them.

I have a friend who is pushing 80 and is a very proud Luddite – she only recently got her first smart phone after using a clamshell style cell phone for many years, and is still not clear on all the features of the new phone – and she had no idea Gamergate ever even happened until recently. I was trying to explain Internet culture to her, and how it related to Donald Trump’s candidacy (she thought the conspiracy theory over Hillary’s so-called Parkinson’s was hilarious). She does know who Howard Stern is, so I told her that basically, there were a whole lot of people out there who wanted to be Howard Stern, but their incentive to one-up each other is taking it way beyond the pranks that he was doing.

GiJoel
GiJoel
4 years ago

And Donald Trump is actually three Oompa-Lompas standing on each other’s shoulder in a suit.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

Here she is exchanging long protein strings with Bernie Sanders:

http://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Sanders-and-Clinton-REUTERS-800×430.png

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

I saw the film Dave, so I know this kind of body-double hanky-panky goes on all the damn time:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dave/

I loved this ’90s film with Kevin Kline and Sigourney Weaver. The president of the United States — a real asshole — is in a coma. So a temp agency owner, Dave, a sweet guy who is also a presidential impersonator, is tapped to play the president. No one figures out that Dave isn’t the president — except the president’s wife.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ Kat

“Dave” is such a sweet film. I especially love the last shot (when you see who his new security guard is); that always makes me cheer.

Speaking of politicians called ‘Dave’, the Trump campaign brought to mind an old Judge Dredd story. We were discussing that not all orange haired candidates were bad.

http://67.media.tumblr.com/2a0f2cafbe4066c8800ab003e3692c79/tumblr_nnmp25iwse1sqgnf7o8_1280.jpg

Schnookums Von Fancypants
Schnookums Von Fancypants
4 years ago

I’m not saying that the latest “Hillary Clinton” appearance was a body double, but something looks a bit different about the miraculously recovered version. …

Ooh, VD is up to that oh so clever gambit. Lemme try, lemme try!

“I’m not saying that Vox Day is a homo-necro-pyro-pedo-zoophile, but there’s something odd about all the dead burning male underage animals covered in mysterious sticky liquids in his neighborhood.”

Michael P
Michael P
4 years ago

I have seen screencaps of Facebook conversations, I don’t know if the people in them are serious or not, but they’re talking about Hillary’s soul having been transplanted into a healthier clone body. As if this is something she’s done several times before.

It’s a strange world we live in.

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

@Michael P:
Come now, that’s absurd. It flies in the face of everything we know about modern biology. Clinton is a lawyer by trade; she can’t possibly have a soul.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ EJ

Hey, I haven’t sold my soul yet. Admittedly it is pretty heavily mortgaged….

(How you getting on with the Limerick?)

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

If she’s moving her soul from body to healthier body, shouldn’t that alleviate these supposed concerns about her health and its potential impact on her presidency? Made-up problem: solved!

Berdache from a previous life
Berdache from a previous life
4 years ago

When I saw body double the other day, did not scan the article; thought it was about actual body doubles that Clinton used to keep possible assassins guessing. Guess I’m just not conspiratorial enough to keep up with the Alt Right.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
4 years ago

@Nick G Inception! LOL!

skybison
skybison
4 years ago

@Rogue Angel

“But…but…she can’t be Tupac Shakur; she’s supposed to be one of those shape-shifting lizard-people alien overlords who works for the Illuminati or something.”

EXACTLY! Shape Shifting. Hillary and Tupac are the same lizard person (Lirson?) taking different forms. Obvious really.

In fact come to think of it, Hillary and Donald were both interviewed by Matt Lauer the other day, but only appeared separately. I’m just asking questions, but could that mean Hillary and Donald are actually the same Lirson? If they aren’t why aren’t they seen together? Besides all the times they have been seen together, because how do you know that wasn’t two Lirsons trying to throw us off?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Why are we so sure that the HRC who almost fainted is the real one and the one who came out of Chelsea’s apartment looking fresh is the double? It’s much more plausible to think that HRC has been sending her body doubles out to do dangerous work like attending memorial services while she lounges around eating bonbons, and one of them was poisoned by an assassin.

They’re probably ALL doubles. The real HRC may not even exist anymore.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

I am acquainted with that limerick. (is it possible that I could have met it thanks to a mammotheer? Maybe elsewhere, I don’t remember. Swiss cheese memory.)
And a very fine one it is too.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

PS not counting the other thread, I mean, which I saw just now after posting the above, of course. D’oh.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

There’s a theory floating around that Donald’s hair is actually a horcrux.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Buttercup
The last one, I should hope…

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@Gert

Dunno ’bout G-d, but ‘VI’ definitely needs all the help he/she can get.

Are you intentionally trying to find veiled ways to reference mental health that can *technically* skirt by the comments policy, or at least go beneath notice? In a recent thread you also mentioned something about someone needing therapy. I wanna give you the benefit of the doubt, but given the things you’ve managed to start arguments over in the past, this seems sorta suspect. At best, please avoid implying a link between terrible opinions and mental health.

AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
4 years ago

HRC needed to bathe in fresh blood to renew herself. She’s actually Elizabeth Bathory, the blood countess, and standing in the sun for so long weakened her. As for Tupac, everyone knows the Illuminati did away with him. That’s why Kanye uses Illuminati symbols, to placate his overlords, lest they take him out next. Mm-hmmm.

Gert
Gert
4 years ago

@dlouwe:

Are you intentionally trying to find veiled ways to reference mental health that can *technically* skirt by the comments policy, or at least go beneath notice?

I can honestly say that no reference to mental health was intended. If someone needs help with something (like basic logic), does this imply they’re of poor mental health? A LOT of people have difficulty with simple logic but that has nothing to do with a mental impairment.

Today I saw a Trumper using fake logic to claim Hillary must be suffering from Parkinson (because of the pneumonia). I believe that person uses wrong logic (“Parkinson’s can cause pneumonia, Hillary has pneumonia, ergo Hillary suffers from Parkinson’s”) but that’s no indication of mental illness/impairment. The person is using poor logic or is lying because of manifest confirmation bias.

In a recent thread you also mentioned something about someone needing therapy.

I have no recollection of making such a reference. Can you point it out to me?

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@Gert

I’ve often heard people use “they need help” in that manner to imply mental health issues (i.e. they need the help of a mental health professional) – if you say that wasn’t your intent I’ll take your word for it, but maybe something to be aware of in the future.

Also I can’t recall quite which comment thread I remember the “therapist” comment from, but it’s fully possible I’m remembering incorrectly. If that’s the case, then please disregard!

Ginger
Ginger
4 years ago
Gert
Gert
4 years ago

@dlouwe:

I’ve often heard people use “they need help” in that manner to imply mental health issues (i.e. they need the help of a mental health professional) – if you say that wasn’t your intent I’ll take your word for it, but maybe something to be aware of in the future.

I think we should be mindful of the term ‘imply’: we’re not mind readers and communication is tricky. When in doubt, ask. As you did.

We ALL need help at times (with regards to reasoning) but that doesn’t ‘imply’ any mental impairment/illness.

Re. “therapist” I’m nearly 100 % sure of never having used it here or elsewhere in the recent past. You may be conflating with my use of the word ‘nutter’, applied to someone I disagreed with (not a WHTM commenter) but that was many threads ago. I claimed to have learned from it and believe I have.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@Gert

I agree that we can’t read minds, but “you need help” is a phrase often used with specific connotations for what kind of help is being suggested. e.g.:comment image

The picture makes it explicit in this case, but the phrase still carries the connotation.

Again, I believe you that you didn’t intend it that way, but I would still suggest in the future keeping that in mind before saying people need “help” in such an ambiguous way.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Again, I believe you that you didn’t intend it that way

I don’t. I think you were spot on the first time. Gert gets no benefit of the doubt with me. The immediate defensiveness suggests he’s up to his old tricks.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@WWTH

That’s a good point. I intended to see how far he plans on pushing the “can’t be responsible for implications” thing rather than needle at his real intentions.

Also I did find the comment I was thinking of: https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/10/do-women-really-enjoy-sex-men-who-hate-women-ask/comment-page-1/#comment-943856

By itself I think it’s actually pretty innocuous, but combined with the “needs help” bit is what caused me to side eye. The “supportive/contributing comment + subtle poke at the bear” thing seems to be becoming a bit of a pattern.

Gert
Gert
4 years ago

@dlouwe:

I’ll bear it in mind. But ‘connotations’ are slippery terrain, IMO and a poor basis for judging what another person says or means.

Reminds me a bit of WWTH’s last comment. A person explains something, an accuser then calls that explanation ‘immediate defensiveness’, et voila: he’s become suspect and up to ‘old tricks’. It’s facile and contentious.

I suppose a delayed defence would have been more ‘appropriate’? Sigh.

Some battles aren’t worth fighting, so WWTH can think whatever she wants, I won’t be responding to it.

Gert
Gert
4 years ago

@dlouwe:

My comment you linked to:

“Still find it hard to believe some menz feel the need to plaster their ignorance/self-inflicted frustrations on teh Tinkerwebs, to be read and mocked by all and sundry. Maybe a decent therapist could help them a little?

I think I was being quite charitable here. Does suggesting therapy in this context constitute a slur to those who suffer from mental illness?

Do these people not need some help perhaps? Does help only mean ‘pschotherapy’? It does not at all.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

This is now 5 times with Hairt? 4 or 5. Bringin it back to the classic ‘take what I say at face value, dammit!’ Yeah, no. I don’t care what you say. I don’t care what you mean by what you say. I care that, when it’s explained to you how your words might be hurtful, your response is invariably ‘nuh uh!’. Like we’re making it all up to fuck you over. Shut the fuck up

an accuser

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/at_a_loss_for_words_obama.gif

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Well, you know how feminists adore falsely accusing men. What did Gert expect when he started posting here?

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@Gert
Seriously, you need to stop assuming that intention somehow undoes any harm. People don’t act like that when it comes to physical harm, yet still seem to think that it’s all the fault of the person harmed if the magic intent doesn’t erase the harm.

Also, you have this very suspect habit of ignoring women who are trying to explain to you why your words are problematic, especially if we’re not super nice to you. Women aren’t obligated to be sweet and kind to you.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

People like this don’t change. They don’t learn. They’ve already decided that other people’s pain doesn’t matter. You can say it nicely, or someone like me can cut the promo. You can calmly reason with them about what they’re doing wrong, or someone like me can cuss at them for a couple paragraphs. They’ll blame other people’s reactions, but it’s always the same rigamarole

I remember, a while back, there was this commenter who was loudly adamant about the comments policy. It was too much of a hassle to police their own words. Got mad when they were reminded wat was expected of em. Got in trouble a few times. But then they did a pretty wonderful thing. They decided not to comment anymore. Remove themself from the pressure they knew they couldn’t live up to. Only in retrospect do I realize how admirable it was

LaterSpaceCowboy
LaterSpaceCowboy
4 years ago

I’m sorry, but this is absolutely screaming for a Chuck Tingle novella. I can see the title now: “Pounded in the Butt by My Own Body Double”. I hope it sells a million copies.

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
4 years ago

Again, Gert does what Gert does best.

comment image

Mendicant.

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

@Gert

I’ll bear it in mind. But ‘connotations’ are slippery terrain, IMO and a poor basis for judging what another person says or means.

Like, okay, I think that’s a crock of shit, but whatever, that’s beside the point. Connotations are absolutely invaluable for figuring out what the words that you say mean. If you say a thing that you know has certain connotations, you are responsible for anyone who interprets it that way. You have been made aware. You are now responsible.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

At this point a Trump victory in November is a virtual certainty barring a meteorite flattening everything in the general area Trump happens to be occupying. I suppose we can feel sorry for Hillary, she tried too hard yet presidential success seems further than ever. Just because Trump is the president now does not mean its time to take it easy, far from it.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
4 years ago

@Joe

Is that sarcasm or are you tonight’s third troll ? I’m honestly just asking questions.

Scildfreja Unnýðnes
Scildfreja Unnýðnes
4 years ago

Er….

@Joe, so, why does fivethirtyeight.com give Hillary something around a 70% chance of winning now? fivethirtyeight being one of the most respectable and accurate polling/prediction sites there is, of course. Care to break that down for us clueless leftists?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
4 years ago

@Scildfreja

Obviously because it’s the librul BIASED media.

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
4 years ago

I so want to comment, but…I didn’t realize that Kimbo Slice had died. ;_;

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
4 years ago

@Joe
Oh I swear to ya, I’ll be there for ya
This is not a drive by
Just a shy guy looking for a two ply
Hefty bag to hold my love
When you move me everything is groovy
They don’t like it sue me, mm way you do me
Oh I swear to you, I’ll be there for you
This is not a drive by.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
4 years ago

Meanwhile, this is going on.

Yeah, virtually certain victory.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Alan

“Dave” is such a sweet film. I especially love the last shot (when you see who his new security guard is); that always makes me cheer.

I had forgotten the last shot, but Wikipedia reminded me. I did remember the part when the president’s wife popped back into Dave’s life.

Things weren’t going very well for me when I saw that film. It helped to restore my faith in humanity. Art can be amazing that way.