In this late-night edition of Today in Breitbart Comments, let’s plunge into an ongoing debate between different factions of Breitbart’s alt-right fanbase.
In the comments to a post titled “Milo on CNBC: A World Run by the Alt-Right Would Be So Much Fun,” we find two distinct types of alt-rightist fighting it out.
On the one side, those who agree with Mr. Yiannopoulos that the alt-right is basically a bunch of lovable scamps, free-speech enthusiasts who don’t really mean it when they say “gas the kikes race war now.”
On the other side, well, those alt-rightists who do in fact mean it when they say “gas the kikes race war now.”
You can see representatives of each of these factions offering succinct summaries of their basic position in this lovely exchange:
Those in the second group tend not to be big fans of Mr. Y, who, as a gay man with a Jewish mother, does not exactly fit perfectly into the traditional Nazi demographic.
Still, there are many points of agreement between the two factions. For example, many of those who put themselves in the “lovable scamp” camp turn out to be gigantic freaking racists too. Oh, sure, the scamp campers insist that they’re not really hateful racists. They just have a rather, let’s say, broad definition of what isn’t hateful racism.
Yeah, you don’t think people of color have contributed anything to western civilization, you want to ban them from immigrating to the United States based on the color of their skin, and you wouldn’t let your daughter marry one. How could anyone even think you have anything in common with the Nazis?
NOTE TO EXTREMELY LITERAL-MINDED READERS: That last sentence was sarcastic.
REMINDER: This is the audience that Steve Bannon, Donald Trump’s campaign CEO, cultivated for many years as the head cheese of Breitbart — and that Trump was presumably hoping to appeal to by hiring Bannon to run his campaign. These are the people that Trump is empowering and emboldening.
It’s okay, guys, we can trust him. Some of them even have non-white friends, you see.
Can they really consider those non-white people friends if they have so many conditions on their interactions?
Non-white acquaintances, non-white people they wave or say ‘hello’ to in passing…those I might…*might* believe that these racists know. But friends? No, I don’t believe that is true.
Oh hello, ironic racism. Please fuck off.
I think I liked plain ol’ open racism better. Can we go back to that ? Or are we stuck with Milo “IT’S JUST A JOKE” Yiannopoulos ?
Pro-tip, ironic racists : if you have to explain that it’s ironic to everyone, then it doesn’t mean that everyone is too dumb to get the joke. It just means that you’re too dumb to understand what irony is.
Awww, poor Milo. He just can’t get no respect nohow…
(GUFFAW!)
Poor Milo, unable to build bridges between the two groups he’s playing for attention and profit, probably not even aware that he’s treading very dangerous waters. My heart bleeds when the racists don’t want him as their leader.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/small-violin.gif
They’re just old-fashioned individuals who’ve come together to protest this postmodern society, in which insulting people based on their sex or race or whatever is seen as deeply uncool. Not fair!
They want to take us back to the good old days when people like them would pack a picnic basket and go witness a lynching.
Breitbart hearts Donald. And Donald hearts Putin. He gave him a shout out last night as a strong leader, not like that Mom-pants guy, Obama.
Putin: He rides a horse bare-chested!
He has his enemies assassinated!
http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-deadly-russian-toll-1425155183
Kootiepatra was right: Breitbart is like what would happen if a comments section had a comments section.
@EJ
What would happen if this comments section had a comments section ?
@Sinkable
Would it be nothing but cat gifs?
Is it inappropriate that i laughed when i saw this had 9 comments? I’ve gone and ruiend it now but yeah…
@Valentine
I am ashamed how long it took for me to get the joke.
Oh, no, racist being fuckheads on the internet?
At least this happened today. Marvel in it, people. Marvel. It’s canon. We have to appreciate it.
@Oogly
I must admit i also do exactly the same thing whith other people’s jokes…
Did…did they seriously…
Was there a hint of ‘I have black friends!’ in there?!
A hint. A soupçon? An aroma wafting on the breeze?
Sounds very much like my granny, though she was concerned about mixed marriages in the religious sense … Catholic boys lead good Protestant girls astray, she warned 12 year old me. She didn’t warn me off my Catholic girlfriends and neighbours though. She wasn’t prejudiced.
@Valentine & Oogly
Wait, what joke ?
Milo reminds me of someone I met many years ago I was part of a battle re-enactment group. There were several of these groups and many had a high proportion of right wing members. The person in question was pointed out to me at a multiple group show as a “crazy bastard.” During the rehearsals I met him but found talking to him was difficult, he was a rabid Nazi and a holocaust denier. Later I found out from someone who knew his family that his parents were Polish Jews who had fled to the UK during WWII.
It seems that guy shared a dysfunction with Milo, “Hispanics for Trump” members and the few Blacks supporting Trump and may even be likened to those women who support the MRAs.
@Sinkable John:
A circular digression, if I may.
We Hunted the Mammoth has a vast readership, more than a million unique people. If one percent of them read the comments section as well, then that means ten thousand people silently read your posts. That’s around the number of people that an average person meets in their lifetime.
Because of the way that the internet skews, many of those people will be younger and more emotionally isolated than average. This means that for some of them, you may have been the first French person they have encountered. The internet is a funny thing, however, because of how intimate it feels: emotionally, it feels like you’re talking or listening directly to the person. There isn’t the distance that you’d get if ten thousand people were in a room listening to you speak. You feel like a friend.
At least one person will now feel, after reading your posts, that they have a French friend. Before this, when they saw a map of Europe, France was just a hexagonal shape; now it has a human representative. France is that cool guy who goes to metal clubs like them (or like they wish they could) and is always funny, warm and supportive.
When you posted about insomnia, anxiety and finding zombies scary, there was almost certainly one of these people who began crying with relief because someone else feels like they do. This is unbelievably powerful, and this means that from now on when this person reads these comments and they see your name, they will see a stand-in for themselves. When you battle a troll, they will imagine themselves doing it. When you make jokes or talk about your music, they will identify with that and take courage in sharing their own creative energies.
Those commentors who have been here a while longer will probably have several people who identify with them and who take courage in their daily lives from our actions here, just as we do from watching the actions of Éowyn or Pearl or Malcolm Reynolds.
If these people ever met, they might get along very well. They’d talk about how they really identify with Paradoxy’s rant or how Scildfreja inspired them to be a woman in science, or how WWTH showed them that they can be brave too, or how they found that Jack helped them through their own thoughts on gender. As the comments section got more established, they would discuss their other hobbies: knitting, baking, cats, whatever.
This is what our comments section would be like.
I think it was nine sounds like nein or something.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/992/139/436.gif
More like wondering how someone could make such a huge ass out of themselves more likely but whatever.
Never noticed that you made an ass out of yourself. Then again, this whole blog is dedicated to pointing and laughing at people who do that for a living, so maybe the contrast is why I never noticed ?
Nah, I think it’s just because you don’t :p
@EJ
That’s… yeah, I hadn’t seen it this way before, but now I do. Whew. Daaamn that was a powerful post, I don’t think I can engrish up the words right now, so I’ma just say :
Hello, unseen friends !
“Oh hey, look at Jack. He was fumbling and awkward and uncertain, and did it anyway, and didn’t die, and everyone still loved him because he was a great person no matter how he identified. It must be okay for me to do the things I’m terrified and awkward and uncertain of doing.”
Milo Yiannopoulos’ rhetoric is extremely immature. A world run by the alt-right would be fun? Does he not read these comments? Does he really just see it a playful trolling when they refer to him as a degenerate Jew? Is he that naive, or that cynical? People with far right views, the ones who go beyond the digital world of the internet, would probably back up their beliefs with real world action if they were in power.
I, um, may have got something in my eye just now. The fact that it happened just as I was reading EJ’s comment is purely coincidental, I tells you!
@opposablethumbs
Right ? I myself hit my elbow right on that spot that hurts like all hell. Or maybe it was a toe. I don’t remember. *sniff*
And Brian turns to Max and says: “Do you still think you can control them?”