It’s no big secret that many doomsday preppers yearn for the apocalypse — if for no other reason than the opportunities it will provide them to say “I told you so” to all those who doubted their paranoid fantasies. And to possibly shoot some of these unprepared scoffers when they come begging for food.
Nowhere is this more obvious than amongst those apocalypse-fantasizers who’ve convinced themselves that it will be feminism, rather than volcanic eruptions or nuclear war or Donald Trump, that will bring about the end of the world.
On the Men Going Their Own way subreddit, the regulars are talking apocalypse, as modern misogynists are wont to do. And it is as revealing as these exercises always are.
A fellow called BagOfBrokenBits dreams of a not-very-distant future in which uppity ladies “will do whatever they are told.”
The future as I see it, is that as society collapses around us (5-15 years?) most women outside of a tightly controlled patriarchal group simply will not survive, because nobody will put up with their sh*t long enough to feed them. When resources are scarce they will not be able to defend what they have and most lack the health, strength and abilities to obtain or build what they need. There will be no feminism, there will be patriarchy. Men will work together as they always have, in challenging and horrific conditions. Women will do whatever they are told because conditions will be too harsh to tolerate dissent.
And Mr. Bag will be one of those doing the telling, because of all the toiletries he is hoarding:
I am a Prepper. I currently have stores of food, toiletries etc for five years with tools, seeds etc to extend that.
He’s apparently filling his doomsday bunker with as many canned goods as he can get his hands on:
It has been noted that in past shortages due to wars an afternoon with a woman can be had for a tin of … anything really.
You know what I mean, you know what I mean? Nudge nudge say no more!
The pros and cons of the apocalypse:
Cons:
- Death of most of the human race
- Contamination of water sources with dead bodies
- No medical care beyond basic first aid
- Return to stone age civilization
Pros:
- Women will have sex with you for a can of beans
AOF_Semiramis suggests moving to New Zealand. And he has some interesting thoughts about Pokemon GO.
Go complete ghost in New Zealand or the likes.Heck even in the US with private as fuck properties.Grow your own food,have stable ways to get water and raise animals a la farm.Fish too if your near a lake.Assuming your far away enough,lake is isolated enough,your too far from idiot humans and any large concentration of them,then nukes won’t land on your spot too since it would be a waste of resources.(Its why the CIA funded Pokemon GO. So the brainless droves would fill the map for them.Obviusly there are still holes.)
Surviving the apocalypse is so easy that even a kid could do it!
Also..a 15 year old discovered an ancient city due to studying the stars in Central America.So you can bet that there are other places in the world where you can live safely.
Make sure to pack popcorn, for all the gloating you’ll be doing.
I know its f*cked up,but nothing you can do to stop it. You can only save yourself at most.So just chill,get some popcorn,and just accept the f*cking up.
timoppenheimer, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to be doing any prepping beyond living as selfishly as he can:
WWIII is coming, and I am horrified too, OP.
My plan is to enjoy my life. They already took my foreskin; fuck society, I’m living my life for me.
Talkytalktalk is evidently a fan of Alex Jones:
This is the great culling of the human population. The eugenics population reduction freaks are going to kill billions and out the rest under the yoke of totalitarianism. It takes a woman to pick the runts and dispose of them.
But which woman? WHICH WOMAN!?
I need to know now so I can mangina my way into her good graces before the culling.
@Ooglyboggles, thanks for giving us the short version of HHH’s oeuvre. I certainly wouldn’t have bothered to wade through it myself. I am curious though, this monarchy he and the sedentary one want – who do they have in mind as the new ruler and progenitor of future ones? King Donald I presume. If all his sons were to die, could Ivanka inherit the throne?
ETA: pickle jars: a pair of rubber gloves will make your grip much better, allowing you to apply enough force to open most jars.
Thanks, Kupo. I was going to post the Snopes page on this
Teal deer, Have you ever read Bertrand Russell’s works (not {open pretentious bullshit identifier = “”}
oeuvre.? {close pretentious bullshit} )
You are aware that some form of democracy is actually the default in Western Europe (and probably elsewhere): from the “Things” and “Moots” of the Norse/Germanic world through the various Republics that successfully littered Europe even at the height of Christianity. True, votes were limited to the heads of households or guilds but often those were women and, of course, such republics often long outlived the military strongmen that claimed to rule them.
1) Women have an innate desire to call your opinion of them bullshit. As far as people are concerned whatever their sex they are attracted to people they are attracted to. In the past women were sometimes regarded as chattels, but so were were male dependents and both given in marriage for dynastic reasons. Of course for the upper classes marriage had sod all to do with love in any event. Love was considered a disrupting force – read “Romeo and Juliet,” or “MacBeth.”
2) Women only think in the short term???? You mean the people in a marriage who (in your fantasy world) have the sole responsibility for children for each child for 10 or more years of its life are the short term thinkers? I bet you think that Donut Turnip is an egalitarian as well. On the matter of consumption and waste of course you ignore the fact that the greatest waste of resources is that of the, quintessentially masculine, military.
3) Women obviously do not “desire to breed” (excuse me while I puke) with you, so therefore you must lack what you consider the “traits of classical masculinity.”
@Croquembouche of patriarchy
Everyone has times where they think themselves the exceptions, these types have deluded themselves into believing literary narrative power of being the main character applies to them. This also includes possessing qualities that they believe would naturally would make them the ones most deserving of such high status.
To fully answer your hypothetical, just imagine Japan’s warring states period mixed with War of the Roses except every leader is a narcissistic manchild believing themselves the “noble leader/hard man making the hard decisions.”
“Things like power, money, affection would and should come to them, it’s what they deserve isn’t it? After all this society and its people’s storytellers keep talking of being special and great people who are outside the norm, and since they think out of the norm why are they denied their rewards.”
-thoughts of a typical “meritocratic person”
Summing up the thread so far :
http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/58/82/30aa2e8eb9c5d3dab0def1f756e4c441.gif
So it appears a drive-by troll appeared just out of moderation. Shall I go back to the previous page to read it?
…Nah. I think I’ll decide which Pokemon Go team to join once I hit level 5. (I just got Pokemon Go yesterday).
@BritterSweet
Trust me when I say this you didn’t miss anything. Just the same old “speaking for other people” mixed with “stuff that you can debunk with 5 seconds of Google Search.” It’s not even that offensive on the scale of bigotry, more wannabe King Louis.
Mention of Galileo reminds me of this Carl Sagan quote:
If you’re dissatisfied with your life, and your reaction is to hope for the collapse of society so that you can get your peen wet, yeah, pretty sure you’re a Bozo.
I wonder if it’s ever occurred to these guys that we have actual, real-life, historical examples of empires/societies/regions where the infrastructure collapsed and people had to struggle to survive. And those places looked nothing like their “Mad Max but without all the powerful women” fantasy.
@sinkable john – I really hate videos that put human pain out there as a thing to laugh at – except for the ones which are basically cats as the nemesis to human hubris đŸ™‚ I really like those.
Also to my MGTOW ‘friends’, I know that grammar may not be needed post-apocalypse, but in the meantime the your/you’re homophonic errors could really use some tidying up.
Personally, my calculations have lead me to believe that men are going to be responsible for the dissolution of civilization for at least several reasons:
1. Men have an innate desire to bop each over the head like cartoon cavemen, but in modern democratic societies they can use their votes to start wars and do real damage. Giving the vote to men was one of civilization’s biggest mistakes, next to not making me God-Empress of the universe, because it allows losers who troll feminist websites all day to ruin the lives of others by standing in a line and pulling a lever. (Fortunately, most of them are too lazy to stand.) Eventually men will waste all our resources on war, and to a lesser degree Viagra prescriptions, and cause economic and infrastructural collapse
2. Men only think in the short term; rarely do they ever think ahead and this is evidenced by their terrible choices in girlfriends. If they had any sense they’d be dating me. Because men only think in the short term, they will often purchase gas-guzzling vanity vehicles, irresponsibly produced electronics, and Hot Pockets, and will in doing so contribute to environmental devastation. Men’s failure to think ahead will ensure that they vote for Trump and support short term gains at the cost of long-term gains. Exhibit A: The guys in the original post who are rooting for complete global societal collapse if it would slightly increase their chances of getting laid (it wouldn’t).
3. Men have an innate desire to breed with airheads with big tits, and will thus breed societies which give birth to stupider (but bigger-titted) people; they will not, however, breed *with* society, because I don’t know how that’s a thing. Actually some of them might try. These men will block social progress (again, they can’t think ahead), and will try to use their right to vote to make their comically juvenile Mad-Max-but-also-I-get-blow-jobs fantasies come true. These men will refuse to integrate into our society, and with their hatred of all things decent and their unenlightened views, they will cause strife and bring our society to its knees. Or would, if they did anything other than call women mean names on the Internet.
Laugh if you want, but remember: they laughed at Marmaduke. So there.
@Sporkey, it was good to see James Burke again. Those clothes tho.
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Looks like we got ourselves a Sobchak!
@Sedentary Reactionary
Right. And those men who abandon their families are thinking long term when they don’t abstain from sex. Or even use a condom.
Given that you spell in the American English way, I’m pretty sure you reside in the USA. Good luck with getting that “Bring back monarchy!” thing going. We’ve gotten quite used to governing ourselves.
And good luck with taking away women’s (hard-won — it was by no means given to us) right to vote. Because women think that it’s a good thing when all people are represented in government. Although it’s messy in the short term, in the long term democracy is the best way to ensure that all the people’s needs are met. Not just the king’s needs.
By the way, who’s going to be king — you?
Snort.
I applaud your environmentalism. I’m certain that you would never buy anything made of plastic, and that you recycle and compost religiously. Conscious of how many resources it takes to raise animals for food, you’re a vegan. Aware of the foolhardiness and wastefulness of producing junk food, you never indulge in the stuff. Pro tip: When trying to attract people to environmentalism, don’t denigrate them — that’s not going to work, you long-term thinker.
Ordinarily, Congress and the president make such a decision. In your scenario, a committee formed of women will make the call. Maybe you should learn more about how democracy works here in the USA before you decide you want a king, Mister Long-Term Thinker.
OK, if I have to be honest, I haven’t read any of H-HH’s work.
Time for you to be honest: Did you know that “oeuvre” means all the works created by a writer, a composer, or an artist?
As such, I’m pretty sure that H-HH has only one oeuvre.
Pro tip: Consult Webster’s when you write.
Long-term thinker? I’m not so sure. You’ve just tossed off an ill-thought-out comment, one that is based on faulty premises, and — to add insult to injury — is misspelled.
OT but this news story made my blood boil just now:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/neighbour-record-sounds-woman-being-beaten-death-instead-calling-police-timothy-down-natasha-a7222406.html?cmpid=facebook-post
^*TRIGGER WARNING* It’s about some douche who heard his downstairs neighbour being murdered and decided not to phone the police because he didn’t want to get involved. Sounds like John the Other and some of the other MGTOW types we hear about.
Regarding the apocalypse, I’m currently teaching myself to make soap. I figure while stock piling goods runs the risk of being slaughtered by looters, the ability to manufacture goods could be a useful bargaining tool. (That’s not why I’m actually learning to make soap btw, I just think it’s cool to make stuff).
Also, when I read those MGTOW comments in the OP, I just get this mental picture of women just lying around immobile waiting to be fed, clothed and protected, and screaming if it doesn’t happen. Do the MGTOW really just see women as overgrown babies? Kind of ironic, given that’s exactly how we all see them.
@snork maiden
Holy cow! What a dreadful story. I can’t bring myself to read it right now.
And I do believe that your long-term calculations are correct: as a manufacturer of soap, you will be in high demand. Always thinking!
I’ve suddenly got a mental image of WHTM being constantly bombarded with tear deers like the one on page 1; one of which David has let through for our amusement, but the remainder of which have been caught against the “awaiting approval” like wind-blown leaves against a window.
This has led me to wonder: who are these people, who spend hours writing manifestos which the world almost never sees because David rejects them within seconds? What sort of life do they lead outside of this activity? Is it like littering, where it’s done occasionally by a small number of people, or is it more like graffiti, in that it’s a hobby taken seriously by a small dedicated group?
Dear Sedentary Reactionary, I am utterly uninterested in everything you’ve said, but I am fascinated by you. Please tell me about you. How many hours a week do you spend composing manifestos of this sort? How long did that one take you? Did you draft it multiple times or type it in a single sitting? Do you show them to others before you publish them? Do you sometimes reread your own work, nodding as you go along, proud of the way you’ve worded it?
Have you ever gotten someone to convert to your way of thinking by publishing such manifestos? Is that even the point of it? What’s your proudest moment?
Do your real-life friends know that this is something you enjoy doing? Do they also take part in the hobby? Do you all get together once a week with potato chips and hard copies of your best manifestos to read them out to one another?
I have so many questions!
@Kat,
yup, I read on survivalist’s web site how soap will run out fast post societal collapse. Though I wasn’t too keen on their advice for obtaining animal fat, sticking with vegetable oils for now.
@EJ, sadly I think Sedentary Reactionary was just a drive by, he hasn’t risen to any of the bait scattered by our regulars.
snork maiden is displaying high PASMV (Post-Apocalyptic Survival Market Value) – that’s alpha game right there ! All the survivor groups at the bar are gonna be all over you.
This website changed my life:
http://soapcalc.net/calc/SoapCalcWP.asp
Soap is easier to make than a lot of the food I ordinarily cook–the first time I did it I went overboard on the precautions (lye can BURN!!) but really as long as you’re aware the mixture will get hot making soap is quick and easy, and if you use the soap calculator it always comes out perfect.
I dunno about other ladies here, but my grandmas taught me all sorts of neat survival stuff. Which wild plants you can eat, which are poisonous. How to make clothes, preserve food, make cheese and yoghurt… It’s like, this stuff has been considered women’s work for thousands of years, but somehow they assume no modern women could possibly know how to do it?
@Handsome Jack I read all your post in Grunkle Stan’s voice.
‘I am a Prepper. I currently have stores of food, toiletries etc for five years with tools, seeds etc to extend that.’
Great, I know who to murder when I run out of bog paper. /sarcasm.
It’ll be idiots like these who will the first to either starve to death or get murdered. Survival for humans depends on relying on your community to protect and help you.
What about crime — either now or after the (much-hoped-for by some people) apocalyse?
http://www.salon.com/2016/09/03/a-modest-proposal-trump-has-it-all-wrong-to-prevent-crime-we-need-to-do-some-exteme-vetting-of-men/
https://www.amazon.com/Men-Are-Not-Cost-Effective-America/dp/0941138119
It seems to me that those who commit crime (usually men) are not thinking long term.
ETA: I kind of like my avatar’s new color — sort of a postmodern subdued turquoise. Goes with everything!