It’s no big secret that many doomsday preppers yearn for the apocalypse — if for no other reason than the opportunities it will provide them to say “I told you so” to all those who doubted their paranoid fantasies. And to possibly shoot some of these unprepared scoffers when they come begging for food.
Nowhere is this more obvious than amongst those apocalypse-fantasizers who’ve convinced themselves that it will be feminism, rather than volcanic eruptions or nuclear war or Donald Trump, that will bring about the end of the world.
On the Men Going Their Own way subreddit, the regulars are talking apocalypse, as modern misogynists are wont to do. And it is as revealing as these exercises always are.
A fellow called BagOfBrokenBits dreams of a not-very-distant future in which uppity ladies “will do whatever they are told.”
The future as I see it, is that as society collapses around us (5-15 years?) most women outside of a tightly controlled patriarchal group simply will not survive, because nobody will put up with their sh*t long enough to feed them. When resources are scarce they will not be able to defend what they have and most lack the health, strength and abilities to obtain or build what they need. There will be no feminism, there will be patriarchy. Men will work together as they always have, in challenging and horrific conditions. Women will do whatever they are told because conditions will be too harsh to tolerate dissent.
And Mr. Bag will be one of those doing the telling, because of all the toiletries he is hoarding:
I am a Prepper. I currently have stores of food, toiletries etc for five years with tools, seeds etc to extend that.
He’s apparently filling his doomsday bunker with as many canned goods as he can get his hands on:
It has been noted that in past shortages due to wars an afternoon with a woman can be had for a tin of … anything really.
You know what I mean, you know what I mean? Nudge nudge say no more!
The pros and cons of the apocalypse:
Cons:
- Death of most of the human race
- Contamination of water sources with dead bodies
- No medical care beyond basic first aid
- Return to stone age civilization
Pros:
- Women will have sex with you for a can of beans
AOF_Semiramis suggests moving to New Zealand. And he has some interesting thoughts about Pokemon GO.
Go complete ghost in New Zealand or the likes.Heck even in the US with private as fuck properties.Grow your own food,have stable ways to get water and raise animals a la farm.Fish too if your near a lake.Assuming your far away enough,lake is isolated enough,your too far from idiot humans and any large concentration of them,then nukes won’t land on your spot too since it would be a waste of resources.(Its why the CIA funded Pokemon GO. So the brainless droves would fill the map for them.Obviusly there are still holes.)
Surviving the apocalypse is so easy that even a kid could do it!
Also..a 15 year old discovered an ancient city due to studying the stars in Central America.So you can bet that there are other places in the world where you can live safely.
Make sure to pack popcorn, for all the gloating you’ll be doing.
I know its f*cked up,but nothing you can do to stop it. You can only save yourself at most.So just chill,get some popcorn,and just accept the f*cking up.
timoppenheimer, meanwhile, doesn’t seem to be doing any prepping beyond living as selfishly as he can:
WWIII is coming, and I am horrified too, OP.
My plan is to enjoy my life. They already took my foreskin; fuck society, I’m living my life for me.
Talkytalktalk is evidently a fan of Alex Jones:
This is the great culling of the human population. The eugenics population reduction freaks are going to kill billions and out the rest under the yoke of totalitarianism. It takes a woman to pick the runts and dispose of them.
But which woman? WHICH WOMAN!?
I need to know now so I can mangina my way into her good graces before the culling.
*sounds of tires screeching*
Hold up. I though democracy was bad? You’re going to cite two of the founders of modern democracy as your faves? You do realize that even if you take the most cynical possible view of the American Revolution and the founding founders, the whole thing is still very anti-monarchist?
What is it you like about Washington and Adams? Do you think we should emulate early America, or what?
I’m still not clear on what economic or political system you actually want here. Although apparently it includes slavery.
Not addressed to me, but I’d accept Lyanna Mormont as my queen.
Yeah, okay, it was about slavery. Ending serfdom == ending slavery.
Why do you want to be a slave, @Sedentary Reactionary?
@Handsome Jack
If I say yes and you have an apoplectic fit because of it, will you record it and put it on Youtube?
@Scildfreja
Now you’re just being disingenuous, comparing eastern to western monarchies. It’s funny, leftists are always saying that we need to be more like monarchies (*cough* Sweden, Norway, Denmark *cough*).
It’s also important to point out that Washington Chose To Step Down as President, rather than run for a third term. He also strongly resisted any attempts to make him a lifetime ruler or any sort of ‘nobleman’.
@Joekster
Have a safe flight.
@Sedentary
I take it you would also be against him supporting local elected judges, reducing the power of the nobility and wanting education for all.
You’re uneasy about ending a system that keeps the poor working themselves to death while ensuring they won’t have any form of social mobility outside of being a serf. You are also uneasy about a constitution, something that dozens upon dozens of countries, many of them the economic powerhouses of the world, possess.
Okay you want to Sweden game?
Let’s check the words of the Swedish government from their own site.
First paragraph literally gives power to the citzens, the opposite of an aristocracy.
Let’s check their consitution.
What? Laws ensuring power to the people with checks and balances?
@Scildfreja
I was never much good at anything and was always messing things up when I was young. I mostly just do what I’m told anyway these days because I’m really not sure what I need to be doing anyway. It’s easier for people to create a place in society for you and stick you in it than it is for you to figure out what you want and then find out, later down the line, that this wasn’t what you wanted and maybe you could have done this or that or whathaveyou. That’s what’s wrong with freedom, it puts too much responsibility into your hands. True freedom would be freedom from having to make such vexing decisions or consider difficult questions. I envy animals some times; may as well elect to be treated like one.
Nah. I don’t do that kind of shit. I’d just be disgusted with you and continue mocking, as I would. I mean, you’re not the first jackass I’d come into contact with that wouldn’t mind slavery returning or never abolished in the first place, you’re just the first one who wants a king to rule over their sorry ass so they wouldn’t have to critically think when it comes to politics. That’s really the only thing keeping me in this thread, just how fucking weird you are.
I mean, kudos for having such a high opinion of yourself that you’d think I’d care enough to rant about you to the zero YouTube subscribers I have on my non-existent channel, but nah. I don’t care about you that much. I don’t think anyone here does. We just haven’t gotten a lot of interesting trolls lately, is all.
@Sedentary Reactionary, not at all. Monarchs are monarchs. There’s nothing inherently better about western culture. The monarchies of the Arabian peninsula brought us westerners mathematics and astronomy and carried the legacy of the Ionians. For a very long time, their monarchies were the bright lights of the world while ours were guttering, and it was only the infusion of their thinking into the west through Italy that brought the Enlightenment.
And, incidentally, I like western monarchies, as they are now. I like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, England. Because they are constitutional, and the power of the throne has been ceded to the people by way of their parliament. The monarchy remains as tradition and a potent figurehead.
In such a form? I approve of monarchy, for they must be ethical and moral – as their only purpose is to be a figurehead for the nation. Their continuation depends on them providing that symbol and nothing else, so they must behave appropriately.
Because we have seen how they behave when they are not controlled.
You may look to the uncontrolled monarchies as example.
@Ooglyboggles
Some of that may sound nice, but you have to deal with the threat of it putting ideas into the heads of lower-class people; they start getting the notion that maybe they’re just as good as the guys on top, and start wanting independence.
@wwth
Hey, I said you wanted to say something. I was aware of the irony.
@Ooglyboggles, SR’s nomination of Washington and Adams (~230 years ago) as standout effective aristocrats [actual status as aristocrats: refuted], and Alexander (~2300 years ago) as standout excellent monarch [actual excellence: refuted by SR themself!]
Tacit admission this is another position SR hasn’t really thought through?
@Sedentary
If only they had some form of say in the government, a branch that listens to them and is directly voted for by the adults, oh wait-
Oh and about that wanting independence and power
Let me repeat that for you
You seem to be the type who would think that the Republic of Northern Korea is an actual Republic.
@Croquembouche of patriarchy
Sure seems to be. I would point out examples he could use, but then I’d be doing his homework for him, and that’s not a good way to learn.
Me and you both, weirdo, but the thing is you aren’t born being good at anything. You learn to be good at stuff, you learn what you’d like to do in life and you either do it or settle for what you have. You just chose to settle before you even tried, which is very, very sad.
In that spirit: Two of my “favorite” historical examples of aristocracies visiting atrocities upon their people would be William the Conqueror’s Harrowing of the North (up to 5 % of the population of Northern England killed to quell rebellion) and the Albigensian Crusade (up to 8 % of the population of medieval France killed in an effort to preserve doctrinal purity for the Papacy / bringing the County of Toulouse to heel for the Crown).
The Anglo-Danish and Cathars were thankful when their respective Monarchs gently reminded them that life is so much easier when you don’t have to make any decisions of your own, I’m sure.
@Handsome Jack
You wanna know what’s fucking weird? Your degenerate sexual attraction to a fucking cartoon character. I’m sorry, who the fuck are you to be telling me that I’M weird? You wouldn’t know. You don’t know shit about me, JACK shit, Mr. Handsome (ha) Jack. The only thing you know about me is that you feel uncomfortable around me, because I’ve exposed you. You have nothing and now I know it and it makes you angry. You can quit hiding your anger behind cartoon characters any day now, Punkle Stan (can I call you that, Jacky boy?).
Oops! I thought SR was talking about the Macedonian Alexander, not the Russian one. I must stop skimming over the trolls. Sorry, my bad.
Those decisions are really easy to get help with, though. And if you find out later you are unhappy with your decision, you can still change it. I should know, I just started over in a new career after 15 years at my previous one. If you’re a slave what can you do to change it? Run away and risk death or worse?
Do you honestly want to take away everyone’s ability to make their own decisions because you don’t like having to make decisions for yourself?
@Sedentary
Oh that’s just cute. You’re gonna talk about sexual deviancy about cartoon characters? Careful you might upset the monarchists that have their waifus as their twitter avatars.
@Croquembouche
Even then with that Alexander,
So great that he couldn’t have an Empire that lasted longer than him.
@Croquembouche of Patriarchy
Christ, can you read? I was referring to Alexander II of RUSSIA. You know, that place where Aristotle didn’t live?
You people are pissing me right the fuck off.
@Axe (Danger):
C’mere you, so I can hug you and squeeze you and hug you again and then call you the Marchioness. 🙂
Might even have the mister make us some pancakes, how do you feel about pre-French Revolution fancy court dresses? 😛
@Sedentary Reactionary,
I do mean the following sincerely: Find a counselor. You can feel better about yourself. You can feel more confident, more capable, more in-control and more worthwhile.
The helplessness you are feeling is entirely normal, a normal part of aging. Living is about walking through doors, and only half of that experience is about getting to choose between all of the options. That’s the exciting, scary part. The second part is living with the consequences, and regretting the doors we didn’t walk through. You can’t go back, and it can be easy to think that another path might have been better. Heaven knows, I feel the same way myself.
Everyone experiences this. That’s a good thing. It means everyone can help. You aren’t alone in how you feel. Welcome to humanity, you’re in good company.
You also need to understand – not everyone wants or needs that burden of choice taken from them. You’re advocating for a system because you, personally, would enjoy it more. That basically steamrolls everyone else who doesn’t experience life as you do.
Men in our society are taught that they must take positive action, and must do so without guidance. Patriarchy 101, right there – that’s “toxic masculinity” in action. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with you wanting someone to come in and make the tough choices for you, to provide guidance and a caring hand. I’m sorry you didn’t have more guidance when you needed it.
You need to acknowledge that this feeling of “people need to be put into their places for society to work” stems from yourself, and isn’t a generic trait of humanity. There’s nothing shameful about that trait of yours – it’s indicative of someone who can work well with others and who can be an integral part of a team. It’s good. But it’s far from universal, and my guess is that it stems from depression. Fix that, and perhaps things won’t be so grim, hm?
Don’t make the mistake of assuming that other people want the same things you want. Humans all have common themes, but they’re not what you think.
I’m of the MGTOW mindset and I think women’s lib/feminism is great for men. Great point on the TRADCON malignancy.
Marriage as Patriarchal Oppression: Good for men. Women reject marriage. Marriage is the #1 place men go to be destroyed through alimony, asset division, child support (alimony++) and civil suit payouts following false accusations. Prince proposed to princess. Princess refused. Prince lives happily ever after.
Women in the Workforce: Good for men. Rather than being stay at home moms, women are working and paying taxes. Takes a huge burden off of men’s shoulders. More single mothers than ever – reducing alimony, asset division and child support. Greater equality in state and federal spending on health, education and welfare. Greater chance of gender discrimination lawsuits as majority of the aforementioned still goes to women over men.
More Women in the Military: Women fighting and dying for their own rights rather than relying on men’s deaths. Possibility of mass class action gender discrimination lawsuits if ever a draft and the same for the current and nearly 100% all male front-line fighting force (disposable male meat grinder). Fewer men’s deaths and greater equality. Good stuff.
Affirmative Consent: Chilling effect on male/female relationships, which was always the real goal. Fewer marriages/relationships – fewer forced transfers of wealth through alimony, asset division, child support and civil suit payouts following false accusations. ++ for men.
The list of women’s lib/feminism’s benefits to men is endless. The problem is this: Some men can’t get unstuck from traditionalism. No worries. MGTOW more and more are self-policing this one. TRADCON is a dirty word in MGTOW parlance. Ya’ll have a great point in calling out the TRADCONS. Eventually – they’ll get it that women’s lib/feminism benefits them too. Rome wasn’t built in a day after all.
Have a nice day, ‘ladies’.
Oops, hit a nerve.
But, yeah, I would Funkle the Grunkles, I find them quite Hunkle, and I would love to be called Punkle Stan.
Hunkle Punkle Grunkle.
EDIT: Oh, heeey, MarkyMark is back. Just when I was getting bored by Prude McRude.
@Jackie
Nope. I called dibs for my Momento Mori.
@Troll: Someone’s upset.