I stand corrected: In a recent post I suggested that Andrea “JudgyBitch” Hardie, after at least two Twitter permabans, had been successfully kicked off the social media platform. As was pointed out to me shortly after I put up that post, she had already returned to Twitter with a new account. Welcome the new “Janet Bloomfield,” same as the old “Janet Bloomfield.”
I hadn’t done much more than glance at her latest account until yesterday, but it turns out she’s been keeping pretty busy. In my previous post, I discussed her thoughts on the possibility of nuking Mecca and killing all the millions of Muslims living or visiting there (she would be all in favor of it if she thought it would be “effective” against Islam).
But she has equally terrible thoughts on many other important issues of the day as well! For example, she’s been …
Calling for the murder of Canada’s Prime Minister:
Attention #ISISちゃん PLEASE KILL @JustinTrudeau FIRST. He's fucking gay. You don't know what that means. It's Ok. https://t.co/v88SuJIlYD
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 18, 2016
Suggesting that women shouldn’t have the vote because women are more likely to file for divorce than men:
Women destroy children and men if they are allowed. #WhyWomenShouldNotVote https://t.co/r93YL35kcX
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 24, 2016
Advocating religious discrimination in the workplace:
Get the fuck out now #FuckYourHijab #MuslimAwarenessMonth #ISIS #ElectionDayIn5Words https://t.co/FyIfQ2Y1gN
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 5, 2016
Using the anti-gay slur favored by her Internet idol, the egotistical yet self-hating Milo Yiannopoulos:
Hey did you know #Facebook will suspend you for 3 days if you call @JustinTrudeau a faggot? What a bunch of faggots. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻😂😂😂
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) July 31, 2016
Declaring rape in marriage to be a bit of a dick move, but not real rape:
I agree with @voxday Unwise to exercise your right against her wishes but there is no such thing as #MaritalRape https://t.co/uIFchEfrva
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 14, 2016
Basically auditioning for the Klan, or whatever equivalent group they have up in Canada:
Hmmm. Good question. #AltRight pic.twitter.com/6sYMt880BB
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 7, 2016
You could act like a ni**er. That would do the trick. #BlackLivesMatter https://t.co/mklYJlrS24
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 11, 2016
The #FourthReich rises #Germany #AfD #MakeEuropeGreatAgain https://t.co/KkItjIqGLM
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) July 27, 2016
But there’s one thing she disagrees about with the proudly racist #altright: She doesn’t think that “White Genocide” is a real thing.
Of course, her reasons for this are racist as hell.
Universal preference for light skin means evolution will always be towards white. White is the #GoldStandard https://t.co/bDnUoZHkiF
— 🐸Deplorable Janet🐸 (@infidelchick79) August 18, 2016
Er, what?
As I mentioned in my last post, Hardie is still listed on A Voice for Men as the site’s “Director [of] Social Media,” and she was one of the speakers at last month’s International Conference on Men’s Issues in London.
@ Axe – ssshh! Don’t mention the census for the foreseeable future, ok? We had a little bit of controversy over privacy, given new data retention rules
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-15/berg-census-privacy-threat/7244744
And then, after weeks of heated debate, on Census night the website … crashed.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-16/census-failure-will-have-far-reaching-consequences/7749446
It’s been a disaster all round. Except for the funny memes and tweets, that is.
Oh, I thought seakale and samphire were two different names for the same plant – shows what I nkoe abaot plants (ie Not Much). Ah well, so you don’t get doubly shakespeared on account of your activities after all, then (I was thinking, lawyer who also gathers samphire) 😉
Proxima b is yet another nudge in the direction of thinking that Earth is a common type of planet, yes? So it’s like a slight nudge towards the likelihood of life (both general and the subset “smart”) being around in other places in the universe. Except that the unimaginable distances and no FtL probably mean no contact ever …
@ opposable thumbs
You can use sea kale roots a bit like samphire, as a sort of asparagus alternative (but you can also use the leaves, they’re sort of cabbage/spinach)
Are you good at Shakespeare? I’m trying to locate a quote about lawyers and how they “sport” in court but are friends outside.
(There’s a good theory that Shakespeare was a lawyer’s clerk and that’s where he picked up all the in-jokes about the profession)
@ opposable thumbs (again)
“Deep space isn’t that far. It’s only a 40 minute drive; if your car could go straight up.”
~ Fred Hoyle
@LittleLurker
Massive TLDR incoming:
The trigger warning hysteria is, as you say, nonsense. People who don’t like being confronted with the fact that others have feelings
The ‘intellectual safe space’ thing is a bit trickier. It’s a 2 part issue
1)Free speech is under attack if ideas, even repulsive ideas, aren’t allowed to be expressed openly
2)College, the place for intellectual pursuit, can’t exclude the expression of ideas, even repulsive ideas, lest the minds of the students, and of society as a whole, stagnate from never being challenged
That all seems reasonable, except it fundamentally misunderstands the issue. Having your speech protested isn’t a slight against the Right of Free Expression. That’s the reason that right exists, to combat expression with expression, to have a (relatively) peaceful avenue to settle disputes. Nobody protests a Sam Harris speech, cos they don’t wanna hear what he has to say. They’ve heard what he has to say, and are expressing their displeasure. Free speech
Additionally, the anti safe space people run into a logical problem. Why is it only a free speech violation to be disinvited from speaking? I’ve never been asked to speak at anything. Are my rights taken away? Their entire argument rests on the idea that the ideas of Yiannopolous, Dawkins, Hirsi Ali, etc are more worthy than everyone else’s. Their entitled to be given a platform, and, if you refuse to give it or take it back once given, you’re oppressing them
The 2nd point suffers from what I call the Participation Trophy Effect. I don’t know if you have it over there, but people over here are obsessed with participation trophies. Children are rewarded not for winning the game but for trying their best regardless of outcome. This sends certain people into a frothing rage about the decadence of the youth. How will the next generation accomplish anything if their drive to succeed isn’t reinforced by lionizing victory in competition? It’s all hypocritical anyway. Adam Conover (smarty pants comedian) has a joke: If you wanna see an older person’s participation trophy, take a look at his ‘World’s Greatest Dad’ coffee mug
The younger generation is forced to be the paragons the older generation never was. There was a time, not too long ago, when daring to have the repulsive idea that people should be treated equally was tantamount to treason. The bigots and their ideas weren’t marginalized by scholarly debate. Those people’s kids simply refused to listen to their bullshit and made friends based on personality rather than color
This isn’t science, we’re not debating the particulars of ethical frameworks. Hateful people are expecting the next generation to put up with their bullshit. As if getting past their parents’ white vs black issues makes their Islam vs ‘the West’ issues acceptable. Fuck that shit. We didn’t stagnate before, and we aren’t now
Shorter version: the kids are alright. This is all just entitlement, lack of compassion, and intergenerational malice masquerading as concern for the students and society
And sorry if that didn’t make much sense. I was going train of thought, and some of it came out a bit disjointed
Swiss cheese memory, good for random snippets but full of holes – lawyers sporting in court doesn’t ring any bells, sorry 🙁
A 40 minute drive gets us well outside the earth’s atmosphere, I guess, but I imagine interstellar distances let alone intergalactic will take a little longer. So chances of talking to the neighbours are a bit slim even if the cosmic neigbourhood were to turn out to be (relatively) teeming :-/
Is the thought that there are probably other self-interrogating/learning/exploring/working-things-out life-forms around, but that we will all eventually go extinct without ever having had any contact, wonderful or sad or both?
I apologise for interrupting the spacetastic conversation with a mini rant.
One of my emerging problems with the BBC is its tendency to avoid calling out bullshit in the name of ‘neutrality’, or treating its peddlers with the same respect it gives people who are, y’know, reasonable. Example: the Brexit referendum, where it would compare the opinions of a widely recognised expert with a sideline crank from UKIP that had no experience in the topic of discussion. It would describe the statement of a 350million per week EU membership fee as “contested” rather than completely wrong, which is what that statement really was.
This article on the internet alt-right takes the fucking cake.
“Critics say” “the movement is accused of” “this person combats it with”. No actual report on the awfulness of the alt right, it treats it like some sort of emerging movement that has a level of justification or respectability. I can barely begin to describe what an epic failure of journalism it is. You have to read it to believe it.
Fuck you, BBC. Fuck you and your pansy-ass style of reporting. While other media outlets are the ones expressing hate and for lack of a better word, evil, you sure as shit are helping to enable them. Fuck. You.
@Mish
*shrug* Over here, personal census data is always kept. It’s released to the public after 72 years after it’s recorded (when the law was made, 72 years was above female life expectancy). Never really thought about it before. That is pretty shady. Especially since life expectancy keeps rising
@ opposable thumbs
http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-two-possibilities-exist-either-we-are-alone-in-the-universe-or-we-are-not-both-are-equally-arthur-c-clarke-219634.jpg
My gut feeling is that life will be ubiquitous, anywhere there’s liquid water at least. However I think complex multicellular life might be much rarer and intelligent life very rare, if not unique.
I subscribe to the rare earth hypothesis. I also don’t see any particular evolutionary advantage in intelligence (especially when compared to the trade-offs necessary to achieve that).
If we manage to clock up the 180 million year history of dinosaurs or the even longer presence of sharks and crocodiles I might revise my opinion. But until then I’m sticking with my view that the best evolutionary feature is big pointy teeth.
TL:DR Someone has to be the first intelligence species, I think it might be us.
@Axe
Unless I’m misunderstanding the specific context, a safe space at a college is usually just a room/club where students can go to not have to listen to bigotry. I just graduated college and pretty much every class I was in had some whiny-ass privileged guy complaining about something in an extremely offensive way. Or there was the guy I actually used SJW as an insult to describe, who made sure to explain to all the women and people of color in the room, at length, how hard we have it while getting most of the facts distorted (at least the facts around women’s experiences were distorted and I assume the same for POC). Having a place people can go to not have to listen to that shit doesn’t attack free speech in any way.
@kupo
Was I unclear? I feared I might be. Lemme try again
A safe space is exactly as you describe it. I’d likely have no use for one, but I accept the need for them and I applaud those that set them up. Having a place to avoid the toxicity for a little while must feel like a godsend
The asshole interpretation of a safe space, sometimes called an ‘intellectual safe space’, is a boogeyman created by idiots to poke fun at those who choose not to hafta deal with their bullshit. It conjures up images of, well, look at the picture on Sargon’s stupid petition. You’re supposed to welcome bigots as intellectual sparring partners. You’re supposed to, as a recent troll put it, engage their ideas. Even when those ideas are outright hateful, even if they’re just talking at or past you, you’re meant to calmly debate them (with the understanding that you’ll agree wholeheartedly by the end, or you’re dishonest). Don’t call them hateful, or you’re just using SJW rhetoric to stifle conversation
Except it’s not a physics debate over the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics. Milo Y isn’t merely a dialectic opponent. He is actively hurting people. If students wanna protest his speech at their school, that’s not close mindedness. And if they wanna go somewhere to destress afterwards, that’s not running away from his ideas
Not only is there no rights violation involved in either the space or the ‘space’, but there’s also no apocalypse coming as a result of people choosing not to listen to your stupid ideas
Hopefully that came across better. It’s a way bigger topic than it has any right to be, so I might say somethings the wrong way :/
Edit: picture was fuckin up, so I got rid of it. Google exists
@Souriquois,
Thanks for that link to the anti-racist Canadian blog. Great reading. I grew up in Canada but have to admit that I wasn’t aware that there were so many (small) active, organized racist groups up there. Perhaps because I lived in the very multicultural Toronto suburbs, that all went over my head.
@Alan
Or at least we are working towards it, albeit slowly.
@sunnysombrera:
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/crwdc.gif
That is all.
@ pitshade
I like to think my role is putting a bit of a brake on that; in case there’s that ‘Great Barrier’ thing.
Hearing people talk about “safe spaces” and “trigger warnings” and the like makes my blood boil.
Not because I think they’re bad, it’s because they’re fundamental components of maintaining your health and happiness, and human culture has always had them. There’s always been places people can go to escape harassment or unpleasantness, and including one in ones’ place of study or work is just basic human decency. “Trigger warnings” are just not being an asshole to people. Everyone has different levels of tolerance for certain subjects – I sure don’t like to talk about certain things out of the blue. Since when is it unreasonable to give a bit of warning?
It’s the same old tired petulance from whiny patriarchs that don’t like their authority being challenged. “You will sit there and listen to my rant, young lady, and you will not complain!”
Ugh, these people.
@sunnysombrera
Hey ! 🙁
More seriously, yeah. “Neutrality” is the worst thing that ever happened to journalism. While I do recognize why it’s important to leave room for opposing ideas, I don’t get how experienced journalists might mistake that for giving the same amount of credit to any and all bullshit.
On the other hand, the “liberal biased media” is enabling those morons. Can you say aye-roh-nee ?
@ sinkable john et al
An issue with the BBC is that, by Charter, it has to be ‘impartial’. There has of course been a lot of debate about what that means. Especially with, for example, climate change.
*Scientist gives full explanation with evidence as to global warming*
Random bloke: “It was a bit chilly today”
It is a bit silly. I do some occasional things on our local BBC radio. The presenter covered a story about a horse being rescued from a mine shaft, interviewed one of the fire fighters, and made some heartwarming comments. I pointed out that under the rules I should put forward the case for having left it down there.
@Alan
Didn’t Sarah Palin totally disprove global warming using a thermometer and saying “it’s pretty cold today” ? (You betcha, she lives in goddamn Alaska !)
By the way it’s around 40°C around here. Ergo, global warming is real. Troll tactics work both ways.
Edit : I managed to spell it “global warNing”. Twice. The ice cap isn’t the only thing that’s melting.
RE impartiality
I’m thinking on the go here, so apologies if I go off piste, but isn’t the problem with impartiality when it leaves the realm of opinion and enters the realm of fact. No matter how much global warming deniers hate it, there is consensus amongst the experts. So, when a climate scientist is on the news, s/he is there to give expert information.
With the Italian earthquake, I’ve heard umpteen interviews with people working to help the rescue effort. They are there to give their unique perspective, just like the scientist above. There’s no need to scramble about for someone who isn’t helping with the rescue effort, or thinks it should be done in a different way, to give “balance”.
I’m losing my thread a bit. Hopefully that isn’t too rambly.
Oh yeah,Palin is totally right about the global warming thing. It’s just like the Myth about people starving,it can’t be true because today I ate. I mean if I have food then I guess everybody else on the planet must have food too.
@Axe
Gotcha. I thought you were saying an actual safe space was as described. Also, I hadn’t had coffee yet on reading that so it’s probably not that you were unclear. 😛
That’s pretty much my problem with the article I linked plus other BBC gaffs. “Critics of the alt-right call them racist trolls.” They are racist trolls!
And hell, if we’re talking full impartiality, where’s the interviewee combating what Davies said about SJWs? Come on now Beeb, at least be consistent.
@kupo
Nah, I assumed it went without saying that safe spaces aren’t the devil. Judging by everyone still up in arms about their existence, I suppose I should say it more often *smiley shrug*
@sunnysombrera:
I shall not praise the BBC’s spinelessness, but I shall say this: the thing about the BBC’s spinelessness, in my opinion, is that it’s often quite a good weathervane for what the Overton Window is amongst the political establishment. They were, for example, pretty one-sidedly against the Tottenham Riots of 2011 despite the existence of popular support for the rioters, because this was outside of what the establishment considered acceptable.
This leads me to suspect that there are people in power who either believe, or wish to appear to believe, that the alt-Right is an acceptable political movement.
It’s rare that one sees a rat board a sinking ship.