Donald Trump continues to be an inspiration to the worst people in the world. In Olympia, Washington last week, he evidently inspired one man to attack an interracial couple with a knife.
Here’s Salon’s account of the attack:
Daniel Rowe stabbed a black man in Olympia, the capital of Washington state, outside of a bar at around 8:30pm [Tuesday night] after seeing the black man kiss a white woman. … Rowe … yelled a racial slur and lunged with his knife, police say. The blade grazed the woman and went into the man’s hip, according to a news release from Olympia police.
After being arrested he admitted to stabbing the couple and told police that he was a white supremacist, according to a police department spokesman.
According to court documents cited by Salon, Rowe “took a blood oath to fight on the street, and [said] if he was let go tonight, he planned on heading down to the next Donald Trump rally and stomping out more of the Black Lives Matter group.”
Meanwhile, as Salon goes on to note, the case of a Florida teenager who was caught literally eating the face off of one of the two people he had just killed for no clear reason has gotten even weirder. Apparently the murderer-turned-cannibal was wearing a Trump “Make America Great Again” hat when he committed his crimes.
Given the bizarre nature of the crime, it seems rather unlikely that the young murderer was inspired by Trump, but it is creepy as hell.
@ John
Exactly! I was asking about a similar thing a while back – how do Mammotheers who wish to get in touch outside of WHTM do so without posting their details? Do they offer David F. a commission to act as go-between? 🙂
I know people manage it, but they’re obviously much craftier than me.
There’s a bunch of options but in the end even the safest ones really rely on trust and balance – and some trolls are sneaky bastards. A good one is the ol’ buffer email adress, for example. Since you only check it when you know you need to check it, and since you know you only need to check it when you’ve provided it, you can literally discard absolutely everything in your inbox that isn’t the expected message, ie didn’t arrive in the expected time window. You can then use it as a private platform for exchanging actual info (or further buffer adresses, matryoshka style !), and forget it as soon as that’s done. That way even if a troll eventually stumbles on it (with good timing, you can reduce that risk to virtually zero with the 5-minute edit timer), you never actually have to deal with their messages.
But there’s still a weakness : a troll might hop on the train at the right moment and try to pass as the person the adress was intended for. But in practice it’s gonna be hard for them to do as long as you keep a tight timing with the person, and then spend an extended amount of time on the buffer before moving on : 1) the troll is gonna need to create a credible adress in a short amount of time and 2) if you see two of the person, you know something is shady.
I learned all that from the most paranoid person I’ve ever known, she’s really great at that stuff.
@ mish
I would love to see both of those. I’m pretty easy to find on Facebook (sunsets and stone circles) or if it’s easier I’m sure David wouldn’t mind acting as ‘cutout’.
If you want to be hyper secure, encode the binary as a sequence of nucleotides, DNA splice them onto a virus, and sneeze on someone at an airport. It’s bound to spread here eventually and I can then just analyse the genome when I catch it.
@ Moggie
Oops! I was mistaken, apparently. I did not think of those words. “e-” can be used as a prefix meaning ‘to remove’, I forgot about that.
Don’t mind me. XP
Dammit wrong thread. I’m showing my ass all over the place apparently.
@Alan
When you say this literally right after my long post on ridiculously tedious ways to safely and securely communicate contact information through a non-private space.
Ballsy.
@ sinkable john
Not really. It’s just an illustration I suppose of the unfairness of the world. I’m a straight white bloke so, even if trolls bothered to target me (and they won’t because they get their kicks harassing and terrorising women), what can they realistically do?
It would be both condescending and a futile lesson in egg sucking to splain to the women here why guys like me generally don’t have to fear for their security whilst women do, but it’s a horrible fact that that is in fact the case.
Incidentally that’s one of the reasons I won’t use the word ‘ally’. To me it suggests I face the same threats, and I simply don’t.
(I don’t have any problem if other people so describe, it just a personal thing)
@Sinkable John, thank you so much for that post on how to share contact info with relative safety.
@Alan
That’s what I was implying 🙂 “Ballsy”*… because balls… heh… heheheh… okay I haven’t got any real sleep in three days, it might be starting to show. But yeah.
It’s also why I played along and gave Axe the clues, because in the end there’s no real risk. It’s what I meant by “balance” in earlier posts.
And I feel uncomfortable about the word “ally”, for those same reasons. Although I’m very much afraid of the neo-nazis who live ten minutes away from my physical adress, there’s just no comparison.
*Truth is, I hate that word. But I can’t pass a bad pun now can I ?
Also, I just pun-splained you. Which means I might as well have outpunned you (because logic, okay). I WIN ALL THE THINGS.
@Viscaria
You’re welcome 🙂
I’m assuming the Geekfeminism wiki might be a good place to find a lot of other ways, but I could be wrong. I haven’t been there in a long while and I have no idea what to put in the search bar ._.
By the way, you said :
Dammit. I’m still very bad at this.
The reason I picked on Alan when I was selectively editing in the MISHMASH thread is that he had written quite a long comment, which meant there was a great deal of raw material to work with. I’m impressed with everyone who has tried to do the same with the teeny little comments I’ve been leaving!
@ viscaria
Hey, this is fun!
Well at this point I’m randomly entering and exiting a state of mild fever dream due to the lack of sleep and sheer temperature (seriously, I ever get my hands on that Celsius guy, I’ma show him the one question that no one wants 42 to be the answer to), so my post above makes absolutely no sense. I don’t think I was even trying. I think it shows too.
Still make more sense than MISHMASH. Somehow. Small victories heh.
@Alan, XD. John, I hope you get some sleep soon.
42 C? Dude, see a doctor. That’s not a temperature you want to mess with.
I’ve thought about whether mailinator.com might be a good way to share info. It’s typically used for throwaway emails (I use it for test accounts), and it’s got very little protection because anyone can access the email address, but emails are deleted quickly and there’s an option to make it so you can only access a box with a specific hash code it generates for you, so it would be next to impossible for someone else to get to the account before the email is deleted.
@ John, Alan
Re your exchanges above – thanks for the early morning giggles. It was hilarious indeed to see 1) John carefully explaining ways to safeguard privacy and then 2) Alan cheerfully announcing his FB presence and how to find it 😀
@ Alan, thanks. I’ll jump on FB later and find you, and then send the stuff through.
Re the MISHMASH thread – I followed everyone’s comments and enjoyed it immensely. Couldn’t contribute due to being traumatised:
The heat wave seems to have ended, and I finally got some sleep, at a very acceptable temperature. It was like a 10 hours orgasm, the glow has yet to wear off.
Although this feels like rereading drunk texts sent last night. Seriously, in which world is “ballsy” a good base for any pun ?
Re: mailinator
That does seem like a viable option, at the very least worth looking into, thanks. There’s also what could be called “the Alan strategy”. Namely, one member who doesn’t have much to fear from trolls and can communicate their own contact info – thus receive the private info from others and transmit it between them. I’m not saying to specifically ask Alan because I don’t assume that he’s got that much time to spare or that he wants to act as an information hub, but I really like the sound of “Alan strategy”. Then again in this context it’s basically the same as asking David, and it also relies on involving a third party who may or may not be available at the time.
At any rate this is an interesting mental exercise.
By the way Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy sounds awesome. I love how the usual idiots constantly provide us with suffixes. I might go fish in the capslock troll’s comments for a replacement to Pansy Ass Pinko. Also if it’s any consolation no one called him by his actual handle (GISHGISHEH was my personal favorite) so your name retains its full street-cred.
But I love Pansy Ass Pinko! They do give us the best name ideas. I love how Phryne changed her name a while back by adding ‘tool of the butt-worshipping, lesbian-powered elite’. Very Chuck Tingle, now that I think of it.
Phryne, if you’re reading, hello 🙂
I have to confess that I’m attached to my name not because it has street-cred (any bit of me having street-cred is a highly amusing concept). It actually is part of my name and I’m very fond of it. So I took GISHGISHEH as a personal affront.
Anyways, so glad to hear you got some good sleep and it’s a bit cooler. Down here in the southern hemisphere we have just finished what passes for winter *sad face*
Well I originally wanted to go with “thread-cred”, let’s use that instead then :p
And I remember that post ! I was very interested in the “lesbian-powered” part, because electricity bills are a pain.
How’s winter in your part of the world ? I’m reading this as “I wish there was snow, but I haven’t seen any in years” – that’s what I’m gonna say in six months anyway. Or did you mean you never see snow because you’re too close to the hemisphere ? Or is it not even about snow ?
If anyone wants to use me as a go-between, I’m also happy to do so. My troll-proof, anyone-can-know-it, I-don’t-care-if-you-send-horse-porn email address is [email protected].
Some of the people here know my personal email address too; if you do then feel free to use it.
@EJ
Tempted 🙂 (how would one go about finding… Nope, not worth it)
I really should set one of those spammail adresses up myself. If for nothing else than to have it handy. Never know, right? Eventually. Too lazy now…
@sinkable john & EJ
“Describe yourself in three words”
“Lazy”
I like the idea of EJ doing it.
Can we still call it the Alan strategy ? “The EJ horse-porn filter” doesn’t have the same ring.
@ Sinkable John
You may not even see this given how late a reply it is. I somehow missed your comment about winter at first and then I saw it and wondered if it was too late to answer and then I thought it would seem rude and then I thought I was being stoopid ’cause who would even notice … :/
It is all of the things you say and more. It does snow in Aust. but only inland in the southern states, usually. Where I live is basically ‘underneath’ Indonesia, so we don’t really have winter as such, just a month or two of cooler weather. Do you not get snow, either?
I read recently that indigenous Australians have a different conception of the seasons here that fits much better than the imported European model. Sounds eminently reasonable.
@ mish
Seasons are a very arbitrary concept. Sometimes they’re as much to do with administrative convenience as ecological reality. In the UK for instance our 4 seasons calendar stated out just being based on the equinoxes and solstices but evolved to the 4 quarter day model (that’s the second time I’ve mentioned that recently) for legal purposes. However in pre industrial times a lot of agricultural communities used either a three or more often a five season year, as that reflected the practicalities of farming activities better.
Where I live now there’s some rather weird climate issues and some professionals in agriculture and ecology have started using a six season year. (The two new seasons are called something like ‘Prevernal’ and ‘Serotoninal’ or something that sounds a bit like that anyway 🙂 )