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What are the worst things Donald Trump has ever said or done?

The Donald, saying something terrible, probably
The Donald, saying something terrible, probably

Ok, so I’m assembling a list of the worst things Donald Trump has said and done, at any point in his long and illustrious career. I’ve got dozens of examples already, but I don’t want to miss any good ones.

If you’d like to help out, please post any you can think of in the comments. These can be vague — “didn’t he once say something along the lines of x?” — to specific, with links to sources, if you’ve got them.

Thanks!

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TEP
TEP
5 years ago

I guess he didn’t say this so much as repeat someone else who said it, but one thing that really sticks with me as deeply offensive, factually false, and potentially dangerous is the assertion that 81% of white murder victims are killed by black people.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOld SocialJusticeMangina
5 years ago

It might be easier to make a list of things he’s done that demonstrate decency. It would be shorter, at least.

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
5 years ago

Oh and I know it’s kind of old, but in 1999 he said, regarding women, “You’ve gotta treat ’em like crap”

Not cool!

Protip: When a girl screams “Fuck you!” that doesn’t mean she wants to…

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

This might be the boring way to answer, but /r/EnoughTrumpSpam has put together several “final response” posts on their subreddit that have been codified into one impossibly long “masterpost”: http://quantum-displacement.tumblr.com/post/146015554444/anti-trump-masterpost

My favorites, since his personal evils are being covered very well here, are his promises to rearm South Korea and Japan; his suggestion to repeal the Fourteenth Amendment, making US citizenship conditional on absolute loyalty to his government; and his stated belief that he can fix the national debt by going back to the gold standard and printing a lot more money.

Berdache from a previous life
Berdache from a previous life
5 years ago

Think saying he sacrificed to create jobs in response to the Kahn’s sacrifice has to rank pretty high.

Claiming that we need global warming because it’s freezing and snowing in New York might have the most long term consequences.

On second thought, repeatedly asking during a briefing why the US can’t use nuclear weapons might be.

Realize it’s minor, but calling the book of the bible two Corinthians is an appalling lack of basic knowledge about a book he claims to know.

Dalillama
Dalillama
5 years ago

@SFHC

How is this not literally treason?

Because we’re not at war with Russia.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

It might be easier to make a list of things he’s done that demonstrate decency. It would be shorter, at least.

Anyone got one?

Anyone?

http://i.makeagif.com/media/11-05-2014/J60R_K.gif

Playonwords
Playonwords
5 years ago

@ Dalillama – treason is betraying your country to another country at any time, a state of war is not a prerequisite.

As for Trump. Off the top of my head and in no particular order:
supporting Brexit;

falsely claiming to be the reason Brexit won;

congratulating the Scots for voting for Brexit (they didn’t);

going to court to force Great Britain to abandon a large off-shore wind farm because on a clear day it could (just) be seen from his golf course (he lost);

encouraging violence against protesters at his rallies;

wanting the USA to default on its debts which would bring about a worldwide financial collapse;

wanting to end the nuclear non-proliferation treaty;

defaming an American Federal court justice for being Hispanic;

barely concealing the desire to date his daughter;

not said but overtly “touching up” another of his children at the Republican Convention;

wanting to expand the war against ISIS;

re-Tweeting ideas from racists and American fascists.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago

This is far from the worst thing ol’ Tiny Hands has done, but it was back on Celebrity Apprentice. In the boardroom, a woman made the mistake of mentioning a fellow contestant’s use of the restroom. Chef Curtis Stone had used the bathroom reserved for the ladies, and he apparently stunk it up quite a bit (and did not avail himself of any air-freshening devices). The women’s team was forced to smell what he left behind, and Maria Kanelis pointed to how rude this was of Curtis Stone.

Donald called her “disgusting” for having brought up the topic of stinky poop, and he pulled the Maria-you’re-fired on her right after chewing her out.

This was the only link I could find related to it, but I used to watch Celebrity Apprentice {insert red face here}, and remembered how perturbed Donald got at the mere mention of poop. http://www.flashnews.com/news/wfn02100519fn23340.html (If link doesn’t show, google “Maria Kanellis Causes Stink On `Celebrity Apprentice'”.)

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Also, whatever the hell this is.

(Would threatening to break up NATO and the UN because money something something Putin count as “Borderline treason” or “Cartoon villainy”? Maybe “Plot of a Die Hard sequel.”)

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Or “Emperor Palpatine.”

Olive O'Sudden
Olive O'Sudden
5 years ago

Certainly not the worst thing he’s ever done, but probably the most bizarre: Pretending to be a publicist speaking on his behalf to brag about what a lady’s man he is. It’s freakin’ hilarious. Trump denies it was him, but you only have to listen to the voice and speech pattern and sentence structure to know. The piece by Chris Hayes also includes some of Trump’s other lies, and the following almost-14-minutes are some of the most satisfying ever (Enjoy!):

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/audio-shows-trump-pretending-to-be-spokesman-685553731627

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
5 years ago

There’s a whole lot of long-before-he-ran-for-president stuff in Rachel Maddow’s overview here. (the second video in this piece) https://climatecrocks.com/2016/08/20/trumps-new-ceo-runs-an-empire-of-racism-and-climate-denial/

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

One that’s not really awful, but that the “he’s a businessman” crowd might do well to remember : he managed to go bankrupt with casinos. CASINOS. HOW DO YOU EVEN GO BANKRUPT WITH CASINOS.

To his “credit” – and this is where the awful starts : when he brags about how much money he made in Atlantic City, it’s only half the story, but it’s true. He did manage to make a lot of money out of that… everyone else involved with him, not so much.

Yeah, business acumen. Imagine the Titanic sinking and Trump escaping on the only lifeboat, and that lifeboat is gilded and has a bar. That’s basically his business acumen right there.

So if someone tells you that “he’s an asshole, but he’d do the job” – no, no, no, fuck no.

Mortarius
Mortarius
5 years ago

http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2014/11/7-reasons-why-dating-feminist-men-truly-sucks/

Hey David!

Janet Bloomfield strikes again with hilarious satire!

Of course she is in fact serious.

Dalillama
Dalillama
5 years ago

@Playonwords
In U.S. law, treason has a very specific definition:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Mortarius

It’s like something I’ve been waiting all my life for.
Or not.
But at any rate, I get to say this : “Don’t worry JB, we don’t want to date you either.”

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
5 years ago

Accusing the judge in his “university” scam case of bias because he was “Mexican” (by way of Indiana).

That was gross, but of course it was just the icing on the cake of ripping off vulnerable people with a fraudulent course in the first place.

Not paying his contractors.

Playing some shitty game about not endorsing current GOP candidates like Paul Ryan. I mean – I’m no fan of the GOP and I love the sweet taste of the schadenfreude, but it shows what a vindictive nasty little piece Trump is.

His ENTIRE Twitter feed. I’m not being silly here, but his lack of control and discretion there is disgusting and not for a Commander in Chief or even a member of a district council.

His racist and illegal attempts to keep black people out of his properties.

His unconstitutional proposals on immigration, on freedom of the press, and on some of the off-the-cuff policy proposals. I don’t know why this doesn’t get more attention!

His shitty slum landlord tactics (like cutting off heating, etc) to try to get people out of a building he wanted to tear down.

His saying women should just move on if they are sexually harassed at work.

Telling a breastfeeding new mother that she was disgusting for needing a break to pump.

Appointing Breitbart folk to his campaign. I think Breitbart needs a little more exposing, frankly.

Ugh, the more you think about it the more skanky shite you realise he’s done. It’s almost like we’ve gotten used to the stink of the shit so that when the next thing comes up we’re not even shocked anymore. Alright, I’m repainting my kitchen cupboards, I need to get back to that.

Happy thoughts, happy thoughts.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

Re : Trump University

A strip club could claim they were teaching anatomy with exactly the same legitimacy.

[…]

Even in New York, a city of shining spires to every kind of financial bullshit imaginable, it is illegal for Trump to claim that he can teach you anything.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

One that’s not really awful, but that the “he’s a businessman” crowd might do well to remember : he managed to go bankrupt with casinos. CASINOS. HOW DO YOU EVEN GO BANKRUPT WITH CASINOS.

Hasn’t he declared bankruptcy at least 11 times?

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

This comment on celebrity paedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump once said about the convicted sex offender. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Handsome Jack

Pretty much. What’s scary is that people actually buy into all of his bullshit, like the thing about a “blue-collar billionaire” who made a fortune from nothing.

It seems the only real business acumen he’s ever shown was actually his daughter’s. Claiming other’s successes as your own is already bad enough, but your own daughter’s ? COME ON.

Now, the nice thing is that, contrary to anything else Trump-related, the business stuff is actually funny. Normally I don’t really take an interest, but that’s stuff you can laugh at. You can make fun of him. The rest is just overwhelmingly depressing.

ETA : @Virgin Mary

Case in point. I’m gonna go play some Terraria or something before I start throwing up.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

I posted this already on another thread, but cosying up to these bigots in order to get the white evangelical Christian vote practically makes me vomit.

Does his hypocracy know no bounds?

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@pinko

Their religion, which they call ‘christian’ is in fact a form of Calvinism. They consider the wealthiest people to be the most blessed by the Good Lord, and the poorest people to be in that condition because of their sinful natures. That is why you see so many attempts by the right wing media, in the UK as well (Murdoch) who seek to demonise the working class. That’s why you see the Tea Baggers up on their hind legs over their tax dollars paying social security for Muslin lesbian single mothers, stuff like that.
They portray the ruling class as virtuous beyond contempt, obviously do not consider ‘white collar’ crimes, off shore banking, hedge funding and vulture capitalism immoral. Quite the opposite, they are seen as Godly and aspirational.
So much for Jesus’s teachings, feed the poor, heal the sick, tolerance.
As an aside here, Murdoch is a good friend of both Trump and Billy Graham. He is behind the right wing media both sides of the Atlantic. His publishing company also produces the worlds largest output of bibles and pornography.

http://geezmagazine.org/blogs/entry/rupert-murdochs-big-bible-business
http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41520/
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/816213025.html

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

OT

Nate Parker, The Birth of a Nation, and Nate Parker’s past

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/opinion/sunday/nate-parker-and-the-limits-of-empathy.html?_r=0

Nate Parker’s new film, The Birth of a Nation, received rave reviews at Sundance. Due to be released in October, it’s about the real-life Nat Turner rebellion against slavery in the USA of the 1800s.

Although Nat Turner himself said that he was inspired to lead the rebellion because of a sign from God, in this movie, he is pushed beyond endurance because a gang of white men rape his wife.

Now it turns out that Nate Parker, along with his longtime friend and collaborator on this film, Jean Celestin, were both accused of the rape of an unconscious women while all three of them were students at Penn State. Parker was found innocent because he and the woman had previously had consensual sex. Celestin was found guilty. This conviction was overturned when the victim refused to testify on appeal.

According to the victim, Parker and Celestin harassed her on campus. Twice she tried to kill herself. She finally succeeded when she was 30. Her brother says that this horrific time in her life was a turning point for her, leading to her suicide.

Sometimes karma must be reckoned with at the most inopportune time.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Virgin Mary

They consider the wealthiest people to be the most blessed by the Good Lord, and the poorest people to be in that condition because of their sinful natures.

I understand how that would make sense if one blindly believes in a God who systematically rewards the faithful and blessed with happiness. But their only metric for happiness is wealth ? That’s not even as messed up as some of the other shit they peddle, but still, that’s seriously and pretty obviously flawed.

Also, from the beginning of the video you posted (granted, I started cringing so much that I could only watch the first 10 seconds or so) :

… not only says what he believes, but is willing to put himself in jeopardy for what he believes.

Hate to break it to them, but by definition he’ll never “put himself in jeopardy for what he believes” since the only thing he ever believed in was his own personal gain. Then again, come to think of it, that probably applies to each and every last person in that room.

@Kat

At the trial two years later, Mr. Kangas said, according to court transcripts, “I didn’t believe that four people at one time was — you know, it didn’t seem right.”

But raping an unconscious woman obviously was. MORALS.

Not even gonna try to sarcasm my way through the rest of the story. I’d puke, if only there was a way I could do so on their shoes.

Shem
Shem
5 years ago

OT: For those who don’t follow fandom, science fiction’s Hugo Awards were given out last night. And for the second year in a row, Vox Day’s Rabid Puppy slate crashed and burned. The only Puppy-backed titles that won were ones that didn’t need his help anyway, like The Martian. And the only category that his nominees dominated, Best Related Work, got a No Award.

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
5 years ago

I was going to pick apart Janet’s column, but…

3: He will empower you by never letting you fall flat on your ass and you will never learn a goddamn thing.

…nevermind, keep talking.

Joekster
Joekster
5 years ago

I’m reading this while sitting in service at my own, very liberal, reconciling (GLBTQ friendly) United Methodist church, with about a dozen other people, and I need to rant a little. TW for religious language: I’m sorry if the following is at all similar to language used to oppress women, GLBTQI’s, or any marginalized group. The Jesus I follow calls all to repentance and welcomes all into the kingdom.

The prosperity gospel is an abomination. It fuses the worst aspects of the two philosophies that went into the USA, Puritan pietism and libertarianism, and in so doing has become a form of Christianity that is of the world, rather than in it. Those who follow it do not know the Christian Gospel, and do not know Christ. The prosperity gospel works directly against the Living Word, and that Word, Christ Jesus, is calling them to repent and to rejoin the work of building Gods kingdom.

David: if this was too preachy, please block it.

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
5 years ago

This is from #4 “You will look like hell as he encourages you to ‘reject patriarchal beauty standards'”

hair and sin oils

I think she meant *skin* oils but that was funny.

To her “credit” at least she kept size out of it. Here, JB…have a lollipop.

(On an unrelated note, I HATE that she calls herself Janet…that’s my mother’s name. That’s an insult to the name Janet…but then again, any name she uses is an insult to that name)

Threff
Threff
5 years ago

Cut off medical care to his seriously sick nephew. http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-sort-of-man-is-donald-trump

Trump, for his part, was unapologetic about his actions. “Why should we give him medical coverage?” he told Evans. When she asked him if he thought he might come across as cold-hearted, given the baby’s medical condition, he said, “I can’t help that. It’s cold when someone sues my father. Had he come to see me, things could very possibly have been much different for them.”

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

I just discovered that there is Trump-brand wine.
As a French, I am morally obligated to put this at the very top of my list of grievances.

skybison
skybison
5 years ago

Trump wants to scrap the regulations on CFCs and rip the hole in the Ozone layer back open. Why? Because he liked his old hair spray better.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/trump-on-hairspray-and-ozone/

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
5 years ago

Also, I love how she thinks consent is always him asking her every 15 seconds…I mean, it’s not like they’d *know* each other and-Heaven forbid-that she would EVER ask him, because *puts on a hoity-toity accent* a lady never propositions a gentleman. The gentleman propositions the lady. /sarcasm

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

I think JB lives under the assumption that relationships are made up of people who literally never talk to each other. I mean, if you function like that, OBVIOUSLY there’s gonna be a lot of frustration on either side if people don’t, y’know, express their feelings regarding each other’s attitude.

I was in a relationship for two years and a half with an American who’d been raised through extensive Bible-thumping. She was basically my nemesis : big on gender roles, a repressed bisexual homophobe, transphobe, prone to slut-shaming the whole world (including me for my own err, “volatile” past). Guess what ? We talked. A lot. In the end our differences are not the reason we broke up. We actually ended up agreeing on everything, and changed our attitudes accordingly. (Okay, so, as you can observe today, I’m not actually the one who “agreed” to anything or changed in anyway. But still.)

Lorna
Lorna
5 years ago

Reading out a rivals cell phone number to encourage harassment of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLEIEm7WBLc

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

Bout time for another round up. Continuing from before:

Fraud, racist business practices, stubborn racist thing, fraud, imperialist thing, fuckin up my city, campaign finance violations, general hypocrisy, racist conspiratorial thing, sexist thing, stupid thing, unconstitutional thing, unconstitutional thing, stupid thing, insensitive thing, stupid thing, omnicidal thing, stupid thing, narcissistic stupid thing, stupid thing, cartoon villainy, stupid thing, omnicidal thing, incestuous behavior, stupid thing, stupid thing, cartoon villainy (SFHC), shady business practices, fraud, petty thing, harassment apologia, sexist thing, legitimizing Breitbart, pedorasty apologia, cartoon villainy, overbranding, cartoon villainy, predatorial stupid thing, doxing

Still waiting on that ‘both sides are equally bad’ Hill Clinton rundown…

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Axe

Pretty sure legitimizing Breitbart counts as overbranding. I mean he already pretty much owned it if not by name.

Shalimar
Shalimar
5 years ago

Ben: (Trump’s) stated belief that he can fix the national debt by going back to the gold standard and printing a lot more money.

That is pretty much the opposite of how the gold standard works. Your money supply is limited by how much gold your nation has. I have no clue how this makes any sense since gold is far from the only thing of financial value in the world, but the people who believe it are very fanatical.

LittleLurker
LittleLurker
5 years ago

Seeing as JB and my WTF-reaction to her blog was what brought me to WHTM in the first place, I think I’m going to comment on some of the stuff she writes in her latest “article”. The fascinating things about JB are in my opinion:

a) How much she actually says about herself when trying to speak about the “evil” feminists.
b) How utterly and completely she contradicts herself in almost every post she makes.

So, just for the purposes of this comment (and because I have been wanting to do this for a long time now) let’s assume her central premise “The radical notion that women are adults” to be true. Meaning that the statement in itself is problematic insofar as it presupposes a certain kind of “adulthood” a.k.a privileges some traits above others when it comes to taking someone seriously. But, let’s for the moment use it as is and show that even in her own (flawed) reasoning she is inconsistent as all hell.

Among other things Janet defines “adult” as:
1. Taking responsibility for your own life and not putting that responsibility on someone else.
2. Articulating your wants, needs and boundaries clearly and defending them.
Not acting like that she labels “being spoiled”.

So let’s look at her points, keeping that in mind especially (but not exclusively). In other words let’s play “take her at her word” for a second here and marvel at how little sense she makes:
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First, why would an “adult” need to be “swept off their feet” when they want sex. An “adult” should be able to clearly articulate to their partner (verbally or nonverbally) what they would like from them (presumably as comfort in this case). Why put the responsibility on your partner here? Do you have a problem articulating your own wants and needs and are you only comfortable when you feel as if the choice is taken from you?
Second, most people will have developed a certain empathy for others as part of growing up. If they for some reason couldn’t (for example if they are non-neurotypical) they will probably (as responsible “adults”) have discussed this with their partner. Meaning if your partner has to truly ask those questions like that and can’t take a bloody hint from your reaction whether you like what they’re doing or not, I’d be seriously worried for you both.

But you are apparently assuming they *would* need to ask (which is where she tells us some interesting things of how she sees men), so what exactly is your picture of men? Unable to take a hint? Not “grown up” enough to not think with their dicks when the poor little babies are “overcome by their lust for you”? Lack of impulse control is usually attributed to children in the version of “adult-child” dichotomy you’re using, Janet. So, are men in your opinion in fact children who themselves can’t be trusted with impulse control and by extension “rational” decision making? Interesting.
By the time he has her coat off, Janet the “adult” would then “punch him in the face” because she is becoming frustrated. Showing that a) She isn’t able to articulate her wants and needs at all until it becomes emotionally unbearable to her and b) The only way she *can* think of even then is physical violence. As you are a mother, Janet, are you aware that this is a behaviour most commonly found in very young children that have not learned to communicate verbally yet? Most people who share your dichotomic worldview also attribute this to what they and you would call “spoilt children” or – wait for it – “spoilt princesses” who just can’t be bothered to learn how to articulate their wants and needs in a minimally non-disruptive way (a.k.a by not immediately resorting to violence).

Here in the real world (as opposed to Janet-land) I’d also add that not everyone actually shares your preferences when it comes to sex. Why is that difficult for you? The entire point you make literally only works if every woman would expect the things you outlined here. Why is it difficult? An “adult” in your worldview should certainly be able to have preferences and stand by them regardless of them being shared? The kind of validation provided by telling yourself that everyone must be like you or “abnormal” is usually not needed by such “adults”. In fact, it’s also more suitable to the steretype of the “spoilt princess” you so often use.

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We can do this together because at it’s heart the answer is incredibly simple and has been delivered to you a million times already. Feminism is at it’s core about treating women as people. Now, I don’t know how you treat people in general but neither I nor anyone I know would ever so belittle another person as to act towards them the way you describe. Your “feminist boyfriend” would in fact respect you enough to realize that your choices are your own, he would not utterly deny your agency by constantly asserting that what you do has no influence on the world around you. He would not deny it by “shielding” you and taking it away.

However, in my experience, people who love each other or even just like each other will usually offer support if the other is clearly in pain. Support does not mean telling someone you think they are blameless. In fact, it often involves not giving priority to *your* thoughts and feelings on the matter at all (as a “spoilt princess” in your worldview would, perhaps? Thinking no doubt that their opinion matters most and under all circumstances? Is that the kind of non-feminist men you refer to as “alpha”? A little – in your own words – “spoilt princess”?). Support can involve taking the *effort* – look, another of your “adult” things – of thinking about: “What does this person feel right now? What can I do to ease their pain?” as well as “Is this a good and productive moment to discuss who or what is to blame for whatever happened?” Has no one ever showed you that basic respect? Valued you enough to make some fucking effort on your behalf? Put themselves in second place because a situation was clearly not about them? What kind of people are you hanging out with, Janet? Clearly they are not by your definition “adults”.

A second point regarding shielding someone from responsibility and the consequences of their actions? There was a post on JB a while back about the value of “obedience” more accurately “mindless obedience”. Janet tells us how much she likes to practice this. In fact voluntarily practices this with her partner although he wouldn’t ask for it. What is this? What’s the point of obedience, of letting someone else make the ultimate decisions, even if you yourself offer some input and do not “mindlessly” obey? It’s not taking responsibility. It’s avoiding consequences in all situations where those could potentially matter. It’s burdening your partner, by putting the responsibility solely on him and thereby making sure whatever consequences happen are due to his decision, his actions. That you neither have to make the effort of making an important decision ever, nor face the consequences of your actions as you in fact refuse to act in the first place. How are you fitting what you constantly demand of women, i.e. being an “adult”, taking responsibility and facing consequences?

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Right, about 90% of things I can think of right now would be crossing a line however pissed at JB I might be at this point. So let’s focus on the other, important 10%. First. As I said above, Janet, try to understand that not everyone shares your preferences. That goes for looks as well. And it’s fine. Really, it is. Second, as you have doubtless been told a hundred times already as well, feminism is about respect. Respect means – among us “adults” – that it’s none of your fucking business what your partner does or doesn’t do to their body. You don’t like it, you tell them. They don’t wanna change and it’s a deal breaker to you, you bloody well leave and find someone else.

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See above. Some people love this kind of sharing everything and make it a top priority, some people don’t. Those who do generally find another partner when they realize their current one isn’t compatible with them in what they like to do. However, you will never have to “hide” you hobbies from your partner. How come you would assume that? Again, what kind of people *are* you spending your time with??

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No, he won’t. If he is a feminist, he will know to respect other people, men and women. How often do you need to be told that?

And now, the best of them all. Let me just quote, emphasis mine:

Eventually, your feminist boyfriend will decide adults are way more fun to hang around with than giant toddlers who have tantrums

The irony is stunning.
To spell it out: Dear Janet, by your own definition of “adult”, this person would not be you. You would, in fact, fit your own definition of a “giant toddler”. Unwilling to take responsibility, unable to articulate your wants and needs without resorting to not only a tantrum but actual violence.
Cf. points 1-3 especially. It’s as if she’s trying to help with exposing her internal inconsistencies, here…

Adults who understand how human sexuality work and who respect the differences between men and women are also a lot more fun to fuck.

So people who are able to – again – articulate their wants and needs and don’t expect to – again – have the responsibility taken from them by being “swept off their feet”? Or maybe “adults” who are able to tell if their partner likes what they’re doing and do not need to ask a hundred questions? But as shown above that’s not how you see men, is it? Clearly you assume that “consent” can only be ignored or established with a thousand explicit questions, at least for men. Do the men you know generally appreciate that you seem to think of them as some kind of mindless animal? The ones I know – even the fairly conservative ones – tend to get pretty angry when someone implies that. Something about it being “disrespectful”, you see.

As to the second point… Janet, you’re not even able to grasp the fact that there are differences between human beings in general (cf. 4-6). Maybe you want to deal with that, before you try to tackle such a complex topic as to how much of a role hormonal differences and socialization play in specific cases of those differences.

So, tl;dr:
1. JB’s argumentation doesn’t even make sense if you assume – for arguments sake – that her notion of “adult” is tenable, a.k.a take her seriously and just check for *internal* inconsistencies.
2. JB’s “Alphas” are a funny mix of widdle babies needing coddling and dangerous animals who cannot for the life of them control their impulses.
3. What kind of experiences has she had with people to even develop such ideas?!

Finally, just in case it wasn’t clear, I think JB’s notion of “adults” is extremely simplified and inadequate. I didn’t use it here because I agree, I wrote this because her sheer cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy have been annoying me for a while now.

I apologize for any mistakes and for the length of this.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@LittleLurker

2. JB’s “Alphas” are a funny mix of widdle babies needing coddling and dangerous animals who cannot for the life of them control their impulses.

So, huh, kinda like MRAs in general ? 🙂

No but in all seriousness, that was a great post, thank you.

Dove
Dove
5 years ago

TW: SA

Trump is scheduled to appear in court for his FOURTH alleged rape trial. This one for a child. No more needs to be said.

Oh, and his incest like statements towards his daughter. That too.

Smithshadow
Smithshadow
5 years ago

This is an interesting read. Perhaps not the worst things Drumpf has done, but it raises questions about his actual wealth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/politics/donald-trump-debt.html

I Blame Myself
I Blame Myself
5 years ago

I honestly think that the (maybe not worst, but certainly most revealing thing he ever did was when he claimed that the US could prevent IS from spreading their message online by ‘shutting down parts of the internet,’ that ‘our brilliant people’ could ‘stop them from using our internet.’
Because it reveals just how little this supposed champion knows- anyone in their first year of high-school software could tell you that that’s not at all how the internet does or has ever worked.
Trump is trying to be president of theoretically the most powerful nation on Earth, with reign over the most advanced military and a substantial arsenal of nuclear weapons, but he seems to have learnt all he knows about tech from the 1995 movie Hackers with Angelina Jolie.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Smithshadow

Yep. His own gain, nothing else.

As an aside, I wonder how the true believers are gonna react when their God Emperor ultimately lets them down.

Yeah actually, let’s add this to the list : using dogwhistle politics to lead the worst people on the internet to believe he’s the Second Coming… of Hitler. And then dancing on the edge between denying it, and not denying it, like he did with David Duke.

Admittedly they’re shitty people. But using them like that proves he’s somehow even shittier than them.

@I Blame Myself

To be fair, bad movies seem to be the only sources he learned anything from. I mean the guy himself a wannabe cartoon villain. Not a particularly cool one at that either.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

Did anyone mention the Purple Heart?

Or the fact that the “bone spurs” that kept him out of Vietnam magically resolved and were not mentioned in the “HEALTHIEST PRESIDENT EVARRRRR!” letter?*

*Not that draft avoidance is awful. What’s awful is avoiding the draft, then making gleeful mockery of servicepeople who were legit wounded in combat. And meanwhile advocating war.

Does Trump have a single policy proposal that isn’t essentially a belligerent upraised middle finger?

Patricia Kayden
Patricia Kayden
5 years ago

Here’s a link to Fortune magazine with several Trump racist quotes.
http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

Steampunked
Steampunked
5 years ago

Reading through this I can’t shake the idea that Trump is LITERALLY the Beast from Transmetropolitan 🙁

Mish
Mish
5 years ago

@LittleLurker,

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Now I’m scrolling back up to read your FAB POST again 🙂

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

Honestly I think that asking “What’s the worst thing that Donald Trump has ever said or done?” is kind of like asking “What’s the wettest spot in the ocean?”