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Memeday: A visit to Reddit’s horrifying haven for Trump fans, The_Donald

Remember this antisemitic anti-Hillary meme? The_Donald is trying to Googlebomb it to the top of the results for the word "corrupt"
Remember this antisemitic anti-Hillary meme? The_Donald is trying to Googlebomb it to the top of the results for the word “corrupt”

As Trump stumbles from one self-created crisis to another, the main hub of Trump support on Reddit is thriving. The_Donald now boasts more than 200,000 subscribers, many of them eager cyber-warriors who love nothing so much as Googlebombing anti-Hillary memes (like the one above) to the top of the search engines results, or flooding online polls with votes for the man they call their God Emperor.

For today’s Memeday, here are some of the more, well, interesting memes posted to The_Donald in the last week. All these memes got upvotes, some thousands of them, others only a handful.

Though many of Trump’s most enthusiastic fans are Internet Nazis who’ve flooded Twitter with a wide assortment of antisemitic memes, more than 1200 The_Donald readers evidently felt no shame about upvoting a meme that libels lefty rich dude philanthropist George Soros as a literal Nazi working for the literal Hitler.

donsoros
Not actually true

Soros, who is Jewish, was 13 when the Nazis invaded Hungary; he survived the Holocaust by posing as the godson of a government official. On one occasion, when he was 14, he traveled with this government official to inventory the belongings left behind by a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country. This incident has been cast as “collaboration” by assorted right-wing media sources; this meme takes the false allegation one step further.

Here, in something of an ironic twist, The_Donald readers joke about murdering many times the number of people Hitler and the Nazis murdered.

donsolved

It should be noted that Trump himself has made a point of saying that he won’t rule out using nuclear weapons against countries he deems enemies of the US.

Here The-Donald denizens try some cold-war style redbaiting with a meme suggesting that Hillary is a Communist agent because some of her campaign buttons make reference to a “new day dawning.” Which is apparently Commie-speak for world domination or something.

Er, you guys remember Reagan's "morning in America" thing, right?
Er, you guys remember Reagan’s “morning in America” thing, right?

And why not round out the whole bunch with a rape joke featuring accused rapist Julian Assange?

donass

Just a reminder: When Donald Trump went to Reddit to do an AMA (Ask Me Anything), this was the subreddit he did it in. These are his peeps.

Happy memeday, everyone!

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Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Are they ever going to explain how Hillary’s “Corrupt”? Especially compared to Trump’s fraud, (alleged) embezzlement, ties to Russia, ties to the Mafia and ties to the Russian Mafia?

Potential Human Bean
Potential Human Bean
5 years ago

It’s easier to just say things and hope people who were already sympathetic to your views believe them than have a legitimate argument which could be attacked.

EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

They genuinely cannot decide whether they’re pro- or anti-Nazi, can they?

Podkayne Lives
Podkayne Lives
5 years ago

I really really hate the ‘Soros as collaborator’ stuff that goes around. Blaming a child for surviving genocide is disgusting.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

Meanwhile, Trump promotes pro-Kremlin policies, Ivanka vacations with Putin’s girlfriend, and his (former) campaign manager is an actual Russian agent. But Hillary’s the commie.

Are these the same people who see Jesus in their grilled cheese?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

The “new dawn” one… welp, this time I can’t even find a metaphor that properly conveys just how fucking ironic that is.

Egregious accusations of dogwhistling.
McCarthyism coming from the freeze peach crowd.

GUYS ! SLOW THE FUCK DOWN ! You’ve gone so far into stupid that we can’t even follow anymore ! Please at least come back into territory that makes just enough sense for us to make fun of you !

ETA : @EJ (The Other One)

Definitely pro-nazi, but the only thing they hate more than a Jew is a race traitor.

EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

Definitely pro-nazi, but the only thing they hate more than a Jew is a race traitor.

I’m glad to hear that my least favourite South African thought-stopping phrase has made its way north of the equator.

What complete assholes. I’m glad they’re irrelevant.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

I’m glad they’re irrelevant

I’m just not sure how irrelevant they are anymore. Racist violence was already happening before Trump, but it’s on the rise again now. And american politics seems like it might never recover from what’s happening – or what might happen after he loses the election.

On the other hand, they completely nuked the right and sabotaged themselves, so there’s that.

ScarlettAthena
ScarlettAthena
5 years ago

Also a fan of the rising sun motif: colonial Americans – including George Washington

Colonial inns:
http://www.visitfred.com/blog/freds-food-finds-rising-sun-tavern-cookbook

http://www.risingsuninn.net/about/

George Washington’s chair for the convention:

http://www.ushistory.org/more/sun.htm

Bonus musical interlude from the Animals (nothing to do with colonial US):

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
5 years ago

ScarlettAthena: Not to mention Ronald Reagan’s “Morning in America”. “New Day” metaphors are so common across the political spectrum that they might as well panic about the use of vowels.

But yeah, it’ll be interesting to see hat happens when Trump loses the election. Is the center of the GOP going to shift further towards the Alt-right? Will it split off into alt-right and center-right, dooming both to irrelevance? (I kind of hope the latter happens, as it might give greater political incentive for multi-party voting reforms). Or worse, will the alt-right reject democracy as a whole, and move to become an explicitly revolutionary organization?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

Or worse, will the alt-right reject democracy as a whole, and move to become an explicitly revolutionary organization?

They’d have to get their asses up and off Reddit first. There’ll be an increase in violence, that seems certain, but outright revolution…? I don’t know, it seems to me that too many of these guys are armchair revolutionaries.

But they’re ideologues, and they motivate the odd actual shooter that crawls out of his den to kill people every so and then. I think that’s the danger they pose, no more, but definitely no less.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

SFHC,

She’s a woman and she’s successful. That’s enough evidence. Everyone knows women can only make babies and sandwiches so she must have done something shady to get to the top!

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

leftwingfox:

But yeah, it’ll be interesting to see hat happens when Trump loses the election. Is the center of the GOP going to shift further towards the Alt-right? Will it split off into alt-right and center-right, dooming both to irrelevance? (I kind of hope the latter happens, as it might give greater political incentive for multi-party voting reforms). Or worse, will the alt-right reject democracy as a whole, and move to become an explicitly revolutionary organization?

There’s a theory that Trump wants to play media tycoon, setting up a new news network with the aid of Roger Ailes. If that gets any traction, it could play an important role in answering your question. I suspect it’s a non-starter, though.

ej
ej
5 years ago

Wait, wait, wait. Did someone up there cite the World Book Encyclopedia to make a meme?

I am so confused.

varalys the dark
5 years ago

UGh, I take a few days break from WHTM to immerse myself in “The Evil Within” and return to more abusive non-memes from internet nazis. That being said I am more interested in this US election than any before and shall be eagerly and hopefully watching it online to see Trump try and spin his way out of the hoped for Clinton landslide.

O/T: Alan, I responded to the comments you left on a couple of my blog posts, for some reason I missed them when I did my check of new comments last time. You don’t need to respond or anything, I’m just letting you know I read and appreciated them 🙂

Bakunin
Bakunin
5 years ago

Not sure why George Soros gets cast as the ‘liberal’ figurehead. He has a few good ideas, but he’s still a rich dude who has no issues with currency manipulation and being wealthy.

Is it more projection? Alt-right scum love their rich, white dudes, so obviously everyone loves rich, white dudes, just the wrong ones? Wake me up when they find Joe Hill, or Mother Jones (not the website), or anyone besides Marx and Stalin to make their boogeyman.

varalys the dark
5 years ago

Just had an interesting thought. Back in 1994 was when I got access to the net. It was via the university’s IT labs, no personal computer networks yet. Very quickly people started abusing it. So our uni heads had lists put up in each room of banned material to access. Most of it was stuff like porn or things like the anarchist cookbook (ahem), which would result in a slap on the wrist and banning from the net for about a week. The big exception was anyone caught accessing and/or disemminating neo-nazi related material (unless they had a research exemption), doing that got you kicked out. Off your course and out of university, no ifs no buts, you were GONE. That’s how taboo Neo Nazism was in the UK when I was at university. Funny how things change.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

Some idiot decided there needed to be a ‘lying Hillary’ doll (which says 18 different unbelievable things) for sale and the commercial for it has been playing FAR TOO OFTEN. Like multiple times in the span of one hour of programming.

I want to find out whose idea this doll was and make them eat every last one, polyfiberfill stuffing and all. I won’t. But the idea is verrrrrrrrrrrrrry tempting.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
5 years ago

Amanda Marcotte posted this meme, from a Facebook group that’s against ‘white genocide’:

http://media.salon.com/2016/08/racist-cat-meme1-1024×959.png

HOW DARE THEY USE KITTIES THAT IS OUR THING

sillybill
sillybill
5 years ago

re: the ‘Problem Solved’ one.
Mere nuclear weapons wouldn’t be enough to make a crater that big. You’d need a good sized asteroid. The last time something that big hit the planet it wiped out the dinosaurs.
I guess I’m being nit-picky, but sheesh!

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@varalys

I reckon that would still happen now. I hope. Not sure about universities though… Sadly that probably also contributed to feeding these guys’ persecution complex : goes to show that you can’t win with them, they’ll spin everything into whatever suits them.

OT, how’s The Evil Within ? I don’t generally do well with “scary” but hey, it might be below my threshold, and if it’s good…

@msexceptiontotherule

Let’s make a deal : I help you find them, but I get to keep half the dolls. Don’t worry, they’ll still end up in that guy’s stomach, but via a different path.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

These Trump fans have been playing too much Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri and yet have somehow missed that planetbusters are almost never a viable strategic option… unless you’re losing.

Seriously, though, I can’t take anyone even mock-seriously who thinks that nuking Mecca and/or the entire Middle East would solve literally anything. You know that Indonesia, the fourth most populous country in the world, is majority Islam and nowhere near the Middle East, right? You know that it’d basically make us permanent enemies of Turkey, all of Africa north of the equator, and most of Central Asia, right? You know you can’t just kill people and break their things until they give up, right?

I do like that they carefully placed it so that they don’t destroy Israel. Take that, accusations of anti-Semitism!

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
5 years ago

@LindsayIrene: I know…so NOT cool! I’m a dog person but I still love kitties because who doesn’t

@Everyone else: You all have said anything I may have wanted to say, so here’s a shameless plug for my Trumpkin Bingo

varalys the dark
5 years ago

@Sinkable John: “The Evil Within” is pretty damn good, although it’s more surreal mindscrew than full on fear inducing. And has some issues, Casual Difficulty is way too hard, I consider myself a decent player and I got held up way to many times at bullet sponge bosses. Also too many enemies have Instant Kill attacks you have to pray for luck not to get attacked with. They did patch Casual Mode to make it easier and sorted some of the boss issues, I’m not online with my Xbox, so for me Casual and Normal/Survival Mode have so far felt indentical. But the levelling up in an interesting idea, being able to make your guns stronger is a good way to help with those bloody bosses and the stealth element is well integrated as well. Overall, I enjoyed the story and am enjoying replaying it to get as many achievements as possible. (I might try Nightmare difficulty as well, but the unlockable AKUMA mode where everything is a OHK might be beyond even a l33t player like me!).

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@VioletBeauregarde

I for one absolutely love your shameless bingotry.

@Varalys the dark

I’ll look into some more then, thanks for the info 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ varalys (and welcome back!)

No worries. You probably had your comments filter set to ‘ignore waffling’ so that would have cut me out.

Sent you an email. Nothing urgent. Just saw ‘AOL’ and got nostalgic so had to use it; like when you go to craft fairs and they let you make some butter on an antique churn 🙂

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Would it blow their minds to learn that most white cats are secretly other colors? Most of them are not albinism but rather have a red or black gene in addition to a white spotting gene that expresses so strongly that all the furs are white.

Yes, guys. That cute white pussy might really be…black!!! The horror!!!

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

@LindsayIrene

Aside from the egregious use of kitties, do they not even know what a meme is? Or how metaphors work? Rewording something so that it contains cats is not at all clever or interesting or persuasive. Or a meme, for that matter.

“Accepting refugees is white genocide!”
“That makes literally zero sense”
“… imagine it’s cats?”

Like… what??

Crys T
Crys T
5 years ago

@LindsayIrene Adding my voice to those who oppose the use of furry, warm bundles of joy to promote messages of bigotry.

And I’d also like to point out that, in the world of reality, black cats are the ones who suffer the most from neglect and abuse at the hands of humans. I feel like there’s a point in there, somewhere.

Valentine
Valentine
5 years ago

@sfhc

Ah tv tropes! My favourite website. After whtm of course 😉

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

As, so the Soviet bogeyman rears its ugly head…..again.
More accusations of Hillary being a commie. Oh dear. She most certainly isn’t. It would be much better if she actually was.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Virgin Mary

It would be much better if she actually was.

Seconded. It’s almost funny how a lot of their disaster scenarios are our wishes.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

The Assange meme is pathetic. No one really knows the truth behind the accusations, but the MRAs have made him a hero, because as a RAPIST they’ve claimed him as one of their own. If it turns out he isn’t one, will they turn against him?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

@Virgin Mary

In that case, he’ll be a martyr in their eyes. Probably already is. They probably believe it’s all “false rape accusations meant to silence him” or something.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@pinko

It’s because nothing scares a would be Nazi like a good dose of the Red Army. 🙂

BTW I don’t think these dumbfucks know that they are not really fascists, they do not fit Trotsky’s definition of fascism, all they are a lumpen rabble high on racism and misogyny, rallying behind a Bonepartist demagogue. Mussolini rose to power without having to use racism. He simply used oppression and violence against the working classes and the unions.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@pinko

I don’t think they think that. They want him to be a proud rapist who’s dodged the system. If he was falsely accused that would make him a beta male mangina.
I still don’t know what to think about Assange myself. For a clever man he sure acts stupid.

Women Against Rape have this to say.

http://womenagainstrape.net/inthemedia/we-are-women-against-rape-we-do-not-want-julian-as

And

http://womenagainstrape.net/inthemedia/should-julian-assange-be-extradited

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Virgin Mary,
I thought Assange admitted to penetrating an unconscious woman? Did he not?

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@lea

I don’t know, if you have a link, please post it to clarify. I didn’t think he’d confessed to anything.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

Sadly your argument that they aren’t even real fascists is irrelevant because it’s grounded in reality. And I can’t believe we’ve gotten to a point where I can actually say that with strictly no exaggeration, while talking about the support base of a nominated presidential candidate. Whatever the fuck happened to this world ?

Regarding Assange, I think they’ll spin it however they need to glorify him, whether he’s guilty or not. Right now I’m guilty of assuming he is, and it seems they are too. But if, and that’s a big if, he turns out to be innocent, they won’t hesitate to make him into a martyr.

However, if he ever says anything they don’t like, like how (I presume) he’s not a fascist, they’ll turn him into either an “evil fucking rapist” (aka… a rapist… just not justified in their eyes… which I can’t believe I also just said, still without exaggeration, still while talking about the main support base of a goddamn nominated presidential candidate) or as you said a beta male mangina (cuck too, probably).

Interesting times we live in, indeed.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

https://studentactivism.net

He raped two women.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago
Lea
Lea
5 years ago

For some reason, it keeps posting the wrong link.
Gimme a sec.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
5 years ago

Is it the one titled like this ?

Assange Lawyer Concedes “Disrespectful,” “Disturbing” Sexual Acts

Closest one I could find with the keyword “Assange” that mentionned something like that.

I honestly know very little about the case so I’m not exactly useful here.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Assange Lawyer Concedes “Disrespectful,” “Disturbing” Sexual Acts
July 12, 2011 in Gender, Litigation, Police, Politics, Sexual Violence
Wednesday Update | A representative of the Swedish prosecution team is forcefully rebutting the Assange defense’s definition of consent in today’s hearing. Click here for ongoing coverage.

• • •

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is in a London court today, contesting an order that he be extradited to Sweden to face allegations that he raped two women there last year.

Assange’s attorneys are contending that the extradition order is invalid because the actions alleged are not criminal under English law. In doing so, they appear to be conceding the sincerity of at least some of those allegations. “Nothing I say,” Assange lawyer Ben Emmerson told the court this morning, “should be taken as denigrating the complainants” or to “trivialize their experience.” His arguments should not be construed as disputing that they honestly consider Assange’s behavior “disrespectful” or “disturbing,” he said, or that Assange “push[ed] at the boundaries of what they felt comfortable with.”

Emmerson went on to provide accounts of the two encounters in question which granted — for the purposes of today’s hearing — the validity of Assange’s accusers’ central claims. He described Assange as penetrating one woman while she slept without a condom, in defiance of her previously expressed wishes, before arguing that because she subsequently “consented to … continuation” of the act of intercourse, the incident as a whole must be taken as consensual.

In the other incident, in which Assange is alleged to have held a woman down against her will during a sexual encounter, Emmerson provided this summary of the allegations: “[The complainant] was lying on her back and Assange was on top of her … [she] felt that Assange wanted to insert his penis into her vagina directly, which she did not want since he was not wearing a condom … she therefore tried to turn her hips and squeeze her legs together in order to avoid a penetration … [she] tried several times to reach for a condom, which Assange had stopped her from doing by holding her arms and bending her legs open and trying to penetrate her with his penis without using a condom. [She] says that she felt about to cry since she was held down and could not reach a condom and felt this could end badly.”

As in the case of the first incident, Emmerson argues that subsequent consent renders the entire encounter consensual, and legal.

While Emmerson was not vouching for the accuracy of these accounts but merely offering them as summaries of the charges against his client, his introductory statement, excerpted above, was striking in its tone and approach:

“Nothing I say should be taken as denigrating the complainants, the genuineness of their feelings of regret, to trivialise their experience or to challenge whether they felt Assange’s conduct was disrespectful, discourteous, disturbing or even pushing at the boundaries of what they felt comfortable with.”

At a minimum, such language would seem to preclude two of the defenses that have previously been offered by Assange defenders — that the complainants were merely spurned lovers or government plants concocting fantastical stories for their own purposes.

• • •

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

“New Day” metaphors are so common across the political spectrum that they might as well panic about the use of vowels.

http://i.imgur.com/nDkXb3J.gif

(Sorry, couldn’t resist spamming my WWE World Tag Team chaaampiiionnnns!)

OT, how’s The Evil Within ? I don’t generally do well with “scary” but hey, it might be below my threshold, and if it’s good…

Echoing varalys a bit, but also adding: I’m a huge fan of old-school survival horror games (Like the original ResiEvils and the Silent Hills that aren’t American), and The Evil Within didn’t quite scratch that for me. It’s more ResiEvil 4 than early ResiEvils. More guns and linear paths and the like.

Not that that’s a bad thing, but it wasn’t as scary as I was hoping it would be, so it might be right up your ally? The first bits are more tense, but after you get some guns and upgrade them a bit, it’s not as terrifying. Still kind of tense, but I can’t help compare it to ResiEvil 4. It’s SO SIMILAR.

Oh, and to keep it kind of non-spoilery: They did leave it open for a sequel at the end.

I will say though: if horror’s not your thing, skip the DLC called The Assignment and The Consequence. I personally loved The Assignment. It was SO GOOD. The Consequence wasn’t as scary, but both of them are connected, so you can’t play the second bit and understand what’s going on without playing the first bit.

The Assignment had an old-school survival horror feel to it and I loved it. You had no gun*, no way to defend yourself, you had to sneak past everything. It was tense, it was scary, and I jumped more than once.

However, I feel like they kind of ruined it for me though when they went back to the shooty-shooty bang bang in The Consequence. : /

Not that shooty-shooty bang bang is bad, it’s just not as scary to me as having no weapons and having to run away from something that will insta-kill you if it thinks you’re breathing anywhere in a three mile radius.

I had to redo one part of The Assignment at least seven times because you have to hide from the big bad (A spotlight monster named Shade, who I have lovingly referred to as “Pyramid Head’s ex-datemate from college”) in a room full of servers while you wait for an elevator to power up. Shade constantly moves around, and you have to keep out of its line of sight. Also, sometimes the servers blow up and can hurt you/stun you so you can’t move, and thus can make it easier for Shade to find you, because it’s attracted to the noise.

Good times.

*There was one bit where you did get a gun, but it was only so they could take it right back afterwards, which I love as a device because nothing makes you feel more powerless than giving you a powerful way to defend yourself, and then making it useless immediately afterwards. The horror gods giveth, and the horror gods taketh away~

EDIT: Kat, can you put a trigger warning on stuff like that next time please? I got a little panicky reading that…

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

So, he admits to penetrating women who have not given consent, but argues that because they consented to sex with him previously, he can do what he likes to them at any time.

Julian Arrange is an independent rapist.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Unrepentant. Not independent.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Re: Assange

I posted something from the judgment in the extradition hearing a while ago that goes into this. Currently I’m dangling out of a window to get a phone signal so can’t search for it, but if it’s relevant I’m sure someone more tech savvy could find it.

paul tidwell
paul tidwell
5 years ago
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

@David Futrelle
Echoing Pararoxy. If you can, Dave, please add a Trigger Warning to Lea’s post

@Violet
Bookmarked 🙂

@WWTH
One drop rule, eh? We gotta get them kittehs tested. For science! What? Test me? Oh, nay, nay. I’m 100% pure hwite (not a typo). Go on then, you won’t find any of that [slurry slur] blood in me:

@Mary
They do fall into another definition of fascism. Perhaps. It’s all rather interesting. Caught my attention when people were tryna calculate whether Trump was a literal fascist or just seemed like one. The most commonly used definition is from Griffin: “a genus of political ideology whose mythic core in its various permutations is a palingenetic form of populist ultranationalism”. That is, a return to the semi historical halcyon days of glory thru the state and the (narrowly defined) nation. I tend to think that, yes, Trump is a fascist. ‘We can make the real America (ultranationalism) great again (palingenesis) by kicking out the undesirables (more nationalism)’ is picture perfect fascism. There are reasonable disagreements. Fascism or fascismo? Protofascist? Interesting indeed

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