In the midst of a rambling blog post arguing that a large terrorist attack on American soil before November “puts Trump in the White House for certain,” former Twitter activist Andrea Hardie makes a rather startling pronouncement: She would support nuking Mecca if she thought it would be an “effective” way to strike a blow against Islam.
No, really:
I don’t think Trump will nuke Mecca or anywhere else, for the simple reason that it won’t be effective. Nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of lives and ended the war decisively, because it brought Japan to its knees. Nuking Mecca won’t bring the Islamic world to its knees – quite the opposite. Trump isn’t going to do it for that reason. If nuking Mecca stood a chance of being effective, I’d be fully in support of the measure.
Emphasis mine.
In addition to being the birthplace of Muhammad and the most sacred city for the world’s 1.57 billion Muslims, Mecca is home to roughly two million residents, and the number of people in the city “more than triple[s] every year during the hajj (“pilgrimage”) period,” as Wikipedia notes.
In other words, Ms. Hardie, better known on the Internet under her pseudonyms Janet Bloomfield and JudgyBitch, would support the murder of as many as six million people of a particular religious persuasion if she thought it would be an effective way to rid the world of that religion.
Six million, where have I heard that number before?
Despite being permabanned from Twitter, Hardie is still listed on A Voice for Men as the site’s “Director [of] Social Media,” and she was one of the speakers at last month’s International Conference on Men’s Issues in London, organized by AVFM and Mike Buchanan of the UK’s spectacularly unsuccessful Justice for Men and Boys party.
I’m not quite sure how murdering three million Muslim men and boys — in addition to another three million women and girls — would enhance the rights of men, or boys, or anyone.
“I’m not saying I want to nuke the fuck out of people I don’t like, I’m saying I want to nuke the shit out of people I don’t like.”
But Islam is the violent, evil religion, right?
I’d recommend that Mrs. Bloomfield go and research the after effects that the bombs the US dropped on Japan, and maybe look at the people who survived that horrific incident, but apparently empathy is “dangerous”. I mean, it could lead to Mrs. Bloomfield thinking other human beings are people and not targets for her gleeful sadism.
Imagine the reaction from the right wing clogsphere if someone on the left suggested bombing the Vatican and considering the surrounding city of Rome collateral damage? JudgyBitch and her dimwit friends would scream for blood.
I’ve come across literal Nazis who wouldn’t (openly) suggest nuking Jerusalem. Jesus Christ, Andrea Hardie is scum.
Vatican City has the highest crime rate in the world. That’s obviously a statistical fluke resulting from its low residential population but lots of pickpocketing of tourists.
My fave Vatican fact though is that there’s an average of 2.6 Popes per square mile.
@MexicanHotChocolate – I’m being ridiculously nitpicky, but the religious right is almost completely a protestant (against Catholicism) phenomenon, so it would be better to choose one of their big evangelical colleges or megachurches as an example. I don’t think they’d mind all that much if the Pope were targeted.
People who casually advocate murdering millions of innocent people should be forced to sit in a trauma center and watch actual people actually dying actual horrible deaths. At least some of them would stop being so flip about it.
@ZugTheMegasaurus
At the very least you’ll be able to weed out the ones who are all talk, the ones who are plain naive, and the most important ones of all, those who don’t care about life and others.
@dreemr: Fellow nitpicker here…I know you said that the religious right is *mostly* Protestant but there are a few Catholics (like Aurini)
Brb. I’m just going to go paste a link to this page onto the thread that’s currently being necro’d by a troll claiming that feminists are the violent and evil ones.
Th effects of radioactive fallout would just be icing on the cake for her
If nuking Andrea Hardie’s blog stood a chance of being effective against bigotry, I’d be fully in support of the measure.
Actually, I am, regardless.
andrea is still on twitter at: https://twitter.com/infidelchick79
Dave, I don’t know if it crosses a line posting this, I just wanted you to be aware that she is still on twitter. Your blog is awesome, keep up the good work.
I wish Canada could export her to a desert island somewhere…. :/
this stance does not at all surprise me.
but I enjoy how she believes Trump will base any decisions on the perceived “effectiveness.” as if the man puts any forethought at all into his actions.
@brian
Didn’t he actually say something about using nukes against ISIS ? Aside from “bombing the hell out” I mean, I remember him saying something else that involved nuclear weapons.
Donald J. Trump : the ultimate reason to advocate for total nuclear disarmament. I guess he’s good for something.
Oh by the way…
I’m willing to posit that this statement is only due to oxygen deprivation due to having her head so far up her own ass for so long.
Why is it that, although Canada seems on most fronts to be a more progressive and enlightened place than the USA, Canadians on the right-wing fringe seem even more extreme and more hateful than their American counterparts?
Even Trump and his surrogates have (at least so far) managed to avoid talking in public about their desire to nuke Mecca and/or tweeting out pictures of themselves in blackface.
When you make Donald Trump look tolerant and reasonable by comparison….
@eataTREE, desperation? They must feel isolated and surrounded by the worst sorts of people. I can see that polarizing them.
And please, don’t eat a tree! Splinters in the gums! Owch!
Not even remotely surprised
Re: Catholic right
Protestants and Catholics in this country have formed a kinda alliance. I’m sure that, if the ‘others’ got less scary, they’d turn against each other immediately. Until then, they’re all Christians, and nobody ever hated teh papists. It’s to the point that, even tho Jews generally don’t like or agree with them, they’re claimed as one of the ‘good people’. So long as they can run up the score on ‘their side’. How much you wanna bet that, within a few decades, Muslims are on ‘their side’, so they can outnumber the godless heathens?
@Axe
That’s actually happening in a fringe of the french far-right. One of our top buffoons, a dude called Alain Soral, repeatedly tries to appropriate the Muslim and Palestinian causes into his own “fight” against, well, y’know, the usual. The Jews, NWO, feminazis, etc.
People, people, people!
Here’s what Andrea Hardie said:
If! If! If! She words her statement very carefully.
Support! She wouldn’t do it herself.
Plus, who can dislike the words of a woman in braids? Wearing a pink T-shirt? With a pink apron — possibly a home sewing project — hanging on the door? C’mon!
I can see that some feminists got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!
History fail. Japan had been on her knees for far longer than that.
Japan first began to offer surrender terms in December of 1944, using Sweden as a neutral go-between. During April and May 1945, they explored talking to the Soviets with an eye towards giving up. (The Soviets rebuffed them. Molotov stonewalled, and he was such an unimaginative man that it’s almost certain that he was acting directly on Stalin’s orders.)
On 22 June of 1945, the Japanese Emperor made a speech calling for surrender. During July, the Japanese foreign ministry made several peace overtures, and the Japanese Army seriously contemplated kidnapping the Emperor to prevent him from bypassing them and making surrender offers directly to the Americans.
The bombs dropped on 6 and 9 August 1945.
@EJ
Thanks for the history lesson.
It was even worse than I knew.
I think Andrea should find a different AA group. She has to be getting her ideas from somewhere. It’s either AVFM or her only other possible social outlet.
@Sinkable John:
About a year ago I went to a protest against a local anti-semitic group. They were flying Combat-18 banners and various other symbols of the British far-Right. They were also flying a Palestinian flag.
Our side included some people flying Israeli flags with orange pro-settler slogans on them. It was a little disorienting for me as a lefty.
I didn’t see any people of colour amidst the far-Right; I think they were just flying that flag to annoy the Jewish people.
@John
The regressive coalition is ever changing but never quite dead. They’re a scrappy bunch
@EJ
Can’t speak to the voracity of this, but I heard that FDR didn’t wanna, and wasn’t gonna, drop the nukes. Then he died and Truman assumed Roosevelt’s empty talk was real. Ascended VPs tend to follow thru on the dead guy’s plans…