Good news everyone! “The Red Pill,” Cassie Jaye‘s long-promised documentary about A Voice for Men that was partly funded by people involved with AVFM and also to a much greater degree by Milo Yiannopoulos fans who want to stick it to feminism, will soon be hitting theaters!
Well, two theaters, in October.
CHECKMATE, FEMINISM!!!1!
The feeling of excitement is palpable at the We Hunted the Mammoth headquarters, though admittedly all of it involves one small cat who for some reason likes to RUN AROUND THE APARTMENT AT BREAKNECK SPEEDS after she poops, and none of it (the excitement, not the poop) involves the A Voice for Men Promo Reel Red Pill documentary at all.
But I can only imagine how excited the general public will be about the film. I mean who wouldn’t be THRILLED by the prospect of seeing a film centered around footage of a three-year-old total failure of a men’s rights rally that seems to have involved a little more than thirty people, with maybe half of them being rally organizers and other AVFM “staffers.”
FUN FACT: In the three years since that “historic” RALLY OF THE CENTURY most of the better-known AVFMers at the rally have ceased to be AVFMers. They quit the band, in other words, and are now pursuing highly unsuccessful solo careers.
In case you can’t read my SUPER LEGIBLE pic above with all the red text on it, here are the highlights, going from left to right, with some helpful links to posts of mine on them.
Nick Reading of Men’s Rights Edmonton … seems to have nothing to do with AVFM any more. I don’t know the details.
Dean Esmay quit AVFM, for reasons that are still unclear, and since then has kept quite busy on Twitter and on YouTube, calling women the c-word; calling feminist women of color “Aunt Jemimahs” [sic]; threatening to literally spit in the faces of some of his MGTOW enemies, and offering helpful gardening tips.
Paul Elam, seen in the pic modeling a very fashionable “I Heart FTSU [F*cking Their Sh*t Up]” t-shirt, just up and quit the men’s rights movement, stepping down as AVFM’s publisher (sort of ) and declaring himself a “former MRA” (kind of). He moved on to his next moneymaking venture, A Near For Men — sorry, An Ear for Men — which involves charging dudes $90 an hour to talk to him on Skype. No, really. His Ear for Men videos and posts, which all seem to end up on AVFM, are pretty much the same sort of crap he used to post there.
And then there’s Attila Vinczer. Hoo boy. Vinczer, formerly AVFM’s “Activism Director,” quit the site in a huff, sending fellow MRAs what I described at the time as “a bitter 8-page ‘Dear Paul’ letter full of accusations and invective and enough self-pity to fill a conference hall.” Then, logging back into his old “editor” account on AVFM, he posted a 4600-word screed attacking Elam, on Elam’s own site. It was deleted, but not before someone — who might have been me, I don’t remember — archived it!
Good times.
Actually, if the Red Pill film gets into this stuff, it might end up being worth watching.
If not, well, it should be a very exciting documentary about people who don’t actually do anything about the problems they claim are all-important, and then give up because activism is hard even if you don’t actually engage in anything that could really be called activism.
Over on AVFM, though, the locals are feeling pretty chuffed.
MGTOW-man has high hopes for the film and some thoughts about my underpants.
For most of my life I have wondered why can’t just one person, or one group, or one voice in mainstream television/communications with the real truth to tell make it into the big mainstream discussion to blurt out the lies being told? Why is it that every single time those speaking never are one of “us” who have nothing but truth to tell?
I hope this movie changes this. No wonder Futrell nearly soiled his undies. He knows the feminist bullies may have just shyt and fell in it …with it finally being in plain sight for the larger population to see.
Ray24, leaning heavily on the Milo Yiannopoulos catchphrase “Feminism is Cancer,” has more measured expecations.
[C]ancer has proven difficult to cure and I have my doubts that the societal cancer of radical feminism will be any easier to get rid of. Still, we have to keep working to find cures for killer diseases like cancer and feminism. I wonder which has caused the most pain & suffering & death, cancer or feminism? :-/
Shrek6 is a bit more confident about the feminism-slaying capabilities of the as-yet-unseen documentary:
I bet the bitches or was that ‘witches?’ Nevertheless, the bitches of East-wick, will do all they can to disrupt the public viewing of this movie.
Seriously though. If this movie is 100% balanced, level, fair and dinky die honest smack down the middle, it will still be a mortal blow to feminism.
On the Men’s Rights subreddit, the reaction has been a bit more mixed, but some of the regulars have given themselves permission to dream big.
Imnotmrabut thinks the film could have a big impact on the presidential election — and beyond!
I’m sure that it’s release prior to November will Stir up quite a set of questions for All Presidential candidates, in the media and leave many voters wondering about new questions.
It will also act as a Thorn in the next US president’s side for their first term, and I’m sure it will be delightfully painful for all in politics. Why worry abut just an election when you can have 4 years of the best show in town and some real ass kicking all for free!
EricAllonde, meanwhile, is looking forward to what he sees as the inevitable FEMINIST RIOTS.
If you remember the feminist riots on campus that we saw for people like Warren Farrell, Milo or even Christina Hoff Sommers – the level of violence by feminists trying to block a screening of this film would be multiple times greater. That would provide fantastic publicity for the film.
Note to anyone thinking about maybe blocking a screening of the film, please don’t. It would provide fantastic publicity for the film.
I, in turn, will do my best to ignore the film. After all, there are more important things to focus on between now and November. We have a Trump to beat.
H/T — r/againstmensrights
Hey, New York – that’s where I live.
Maybe I’ll see a showing, if it doesn’t cost too much.
MGTOW-man must have a definition of “mainstream television/communications” that I am unfamiliar with.
Well, at least I learned a new phrase: “dinky die honest”.
I think I’ll try slipping this into my work conversations to give them that Little Rascals feel. “But gosh, Ms. CEO ma’am, the IT project’s late ‘cuz the other teams haven’t finished their deliverables — dinky die honest!”
The funniest part is they picked the worst time to release the film, anybody who would have kicked up a fuss about the movie are too busy watching the better marketed and more hilarious Hilary’s America. Their shitty shockumentary thunder has already been stolen.
I wonder if this the be as funny as the Magnus Opus of professor skull and bathtub boy?
Makes me think of a book I read once, called “Beaucoup Dinky Dau, Very Crazy G. I.”, a collection of war stories from the Vietnam War. “Dinky dau” is apparently the way the Viet word for crazy sounds to Americans.
Let’s hope it wins an award at Cannes. No, not that Cannes: the other one.
I’m a documentary junkie, and I kind of want to see this.
Presumably it’ll go to video, er, streaming rather quickly. I can wait.
There’s always a “mortal blow to feminism” just around the corner, isn’t there? Yep, any day now!
When was the last time a low-budget documentary film destroyed a major worldwide movement?
I want to know why Imnotmrabut capitalized really random words. Like Stir and Thorn. Maybe it’s some sooper seekrit man code devised in case feminist spies read their posts? Then again, maybe it’s just the manosphere commitment to never being clear and concise that we all know and love so much.
Who’s everyone’s favorite former AVFMer? Attila holds a special place in my heart because of the bitchin’ men’s conference commemorative coin.
Link for those who are too new to remember that
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/07/12/who-designed-a-voice-for-mens-new-commemorative-coins-judy-chicago/
@WTH
I used to do that all the time (captitalizing random words), for reasons I still can’t ever really explain.
Josh,
I’m still guessing it’s secret red pill man code because that’s funnier 🙂
If Star Wars VII losing $2 1/2m (actually didn’t, but not the point) off of a $2b return was a might blow, and if Ghostbusters 3 doing fine business domestically is evidence of feminist failure, how much money will this hafta make to be a success?
Trick question, 9 people could see the premiere, and it’d still be called the greatest cinematic achievement of our time. Ho hum…
@Moggie
Speaking of Cannes
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/13/world/europe/cannes-muslims-burkini-ban.html?_r=0
@WTH
Fair enough. 😀
Do they genuinely believe it’s going to be this massive revolutionary hit they claim it to be? Why am I even asking. You feel a bit sorry for them. Almost.
I created an actual men’s issue advocacy project this summer and I can’t even get a MRA person to read it. Like it’s way too much text for them. I had previously suspected that David is the only guys that actually reads and understands the content in the manosphere. Paul Elam distanced himself from AVFM by creating ‘An Ear for Men’ which sounds like a better concept. But the comments are always 90% “Bitch is the new witch” kinda stuff, whatever the content. I do not understand the prospect of rendering your entire existence to the opposition of femalehood as your own definition of malehood when it is marketers that control what these two gender constructs mean on any given day. Anyhow, I posted a comment on the trailer. I might actually be around to see this in New York or Los Angeles.
When it bombs, I hope they don’t take it out on Cassie Jaye.
It’s already a strong favorite at Cannedfest!
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Cancer. It’s cancer. People die of cancer. Nobody dies of feminism. Happy to help.
So, I haven’t finished reading yet, but had to comment on this:
Mine does this, too! Why do they do that? It baffles me. Of course, she also runs at top speed from the living room to the bedroom, then stops and stares at the closet. Maybe she’s busting ghosts.
Can’t wait! — for someone else to see it and tell us all about it.
The popcorn’s waiting to be popped. (Should I sprinkle brewer’s yeast on top? Salted butter? Unsalted butter? I have two months to decide.)
We used to lock men like this in monasteries.
With vows of silence. They got to wear floor length dresses all the time.
Good times.
Dude, the patriarchy causes pain and suffering and death. Feminism? That’s how I saved my own life.
David I hope you don’t ignore this Mighty Opus forever, I am very much looking forward to your take-down of it! (And to hbomberguy’s take-down, if he does one, crosses fingers).