Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, a dude calling himself fleshnbones is holding forth on a subject near and dear to his MGTOW heart: how the only interesting thing about women lies between their legs.
But, like many MGTOWs, fleshnbones seems a little confused about what exactly (cis) women have in that area.
“Women are boring as f*ck and suck at holding conversations unless it’s about them and only them,” fleshnbones sniffs.
Clear your mind of all sexual urges and realize just how horrible they are at talking about interesting sh*t, I’d rather get into a howling contest with a group of Huskies.
Fleshnbones urges his fellow MGTOWs to put this to proposition to a test:
I challenge my fellow MGTOW to bust the biggest nut you can then just TRY to have a intellectual conversation with them.
It ain’t happening, the only reason we even put up with their boring asses is because they have that meat dispensary between their legs.
That what what between their legs?
Salt_Powered_Robot, while agreeing with this fundamental premise, used a somewhat more familiar meat-themed metaphor for the vagina:
[P]robably my main MGTOW realisation was that the only reason anyone ever has for holding a (non-professional) conversation with a woman is because he wants a go at her beef flaps.
He went on to offer this handy advice for men who nonetheless feel the need to talk to one of these meaty creatures:
When taking to a woman, just pretend she’s a mildly mentally deficient dude. Like, there’s no point being an asshole, but at the same time don’t discuss any complex subjects or use too many long words. Just put your brain on neutral and spew something superficial and unchallenging until you can make an excuse to leave.
And the kicker is: people will be amazed at how great you are at talking to women.
I … don’t actually think that’s true.
Our old friend Ovendice, meanwhile, somehow managed to avoid meat-related metaphors in these observations:
Women don’t DO anything, have no interests in anything productive or actually compelling, have no curiosity about the world and zero inventiveness, so they have nothing to talk about.
Their main hobbies are going to expensive restaurants, shopping and expensive vacations at the cheesiest, gaudiest resorts and on cruise lines possible and there’s not a whole lot to talk about any of those experiences except how she got drunk everyday and fucked 37 random men she just met.
Have any of these men actually ever spoken to an adult woman other than their mother?
I know the answer to this one! No.
Seriously, most of these guys probably had female teachers that could intellectual conversation them from here to next year; of course, those women were probably older than they were, since it takes time to get an education to be a teacher, so they don’t count.
My husband and I don’t talk about any of the things they say women like to talk about. We do talk about me sometimes, when there is some reason to talk about me. Like, I just had a play I wrote produced in Lincoln, NE – YEA! (but then, I didn’t do anything productive. I just wrote a play). We talk about him when there is some reason to talk about him. We talk much more about the dog than we do about either of us. And politics…religion…science…history. That’s a short list of my interests, and I will gladly have an intellectual conversation with any of the MGTOWs, if they think they can keep up.
The denizens of the manosphere can’t get their story straight. Do women not do anything or are they secretly in charge of the world? But anyone with a remote understanding of history realizes that woman essentially created civilization when they decided to plant wheat and other grains instead of gathering them.
no woman I know resembles their straw female even remotely.
I can answer MexicanHotChocolate’s contradiction, though. Feminist *men* secretly control everything, and they are feminist because of the mind control goo extruded from the female meat dispensary.
Wow!
This sounds so projection-y, it’s ridiculous. It says more about their choices in women, or just themselves, than about most women in general.
I suspect the actual problem is that these guys only want to talk about themselves and having accomplished nothing in the world except to be born, eat, s*** and breathe, that’s not a very stimulating conversation.
Or worse, the kind of women they like to hang out with, just aren’t very interesting. I suspect it’s mostly the guy whose the problem in this scenario.
Isn’t there some proverb or something that says if you consider all the people in your life to be a$$holes, the one thing they really all have in common is you? So maybe you’re it?
Beef flaps is crude and gross but at least it makes sense as a disparaging description of a vulva. What does meat dispensary even mean? Does he think our vaginas are churning out sausage links or pork chops or something? Is that why women are more likely to wear skirts? Better to let the meat products drop on the ground than have an uncomfortable build up of pants proteins. Is this also why these guys think it’s our job to cook for them? Because we can just reach in our undies for dinner ingredients?
The mind of the MGTOW is a strange place.
I wanna get into a howling contest with a bunch of Huskies! Where do I sign up?!?
@iknklast
Congratulations on the play! That sounds really cool!
Meat dispensary.
MEAT DISPENSARY.
I’m dying.
I’m guessing this is a sort of poorly thought-out conflation of different metaphorical angles to objectification. Women are meat (for us to use), women are made of meat (the constituent parts of which we use separately), women… dispense meat? In the form of nookie?
Oh baby, put your piece of pork between my beef flaps.
(Isn’t it interesting how the shape of a penis is so culturally familiar that we see it everywhere in unrelated objects, and yet vulvas are so hidden and weird and alien we have to find unrelated objects to compare them TO? Yeah, yeah, Georgia O’Keeffe, exceptions, I know.)
No disrespect to those who have more familiarity with sliced beef than vulvas, but vulvas definitely came first.
Meat dispensary.
You know, if I based my perceptions of men on, say, what I saw in old Playboy Magazines… I’d think that they were obsessed with fancy cars, diamond cufflinks, whiskey, watching american football, cologne, and not much else. And were more into looking at naked women than having sex or relationships. If I had bought into that particular image of men, I would probably have thought that they “have no interests in anything productive or actually compelling, have no curiosity about the world and zero inventiveness, so they have nothing to talk about.” Fortunately the men in my life were nothing like that, and looking at old Playboys was merely an idle curiosity and not something that I expected to inform any views on the real world.
In some ways, it’s like they’re basing their views of women on old Cosmopolitan magazines, and treating that as an absolute truth for all women ever.
@weirwoodtreehugger Imagine the revolution in industrial ranching! I’m a vegetarian but I’d totally eat meat grown in my own uterus using only my sexiness for nourishment.
Well, technically speaking, when a cis woman menstruates, endometrial tissue is shed along with the blood, so in a broad sense, vaginas do dispense (miniscule quantities of) meat, approximately once a month.
Or, in a more specific sense, babies are primarily born through vaginas (though C-sections also occur), and babies are made of flesh/meat, so some vaginas indeed have dispensed larger quantities of meat as well.
The idea of someone viewing vaginas in this way is somehow even more disconcerting than the dudes who are like “hurr hurr only good for sex”.
It’s terrifying to even try to probe the mind of one these individuals, but I imagine what happened is that our dear fleshnbones meant “repository” instead of “dispenser.”
Also, with regards to the final rhetorical question (wrt to the rest of the article), it really is baffling. I can only imagine this is projection (as one poster suggested), or they honestly haven’t had actual conversations (trying out your pick up artist skillz doesn’t count) with women.
@Snowberry Woah, woah, woah, slow down. Whiskey is pretty great. 😀
If the preceding paragraph describes their moms, then… I wanna hang out with their moms!
Those descriptions actually made me feel a bit sick.
I don’t think these guys know, like, words.
Here they are braggin’ about how goddamn smart they are, and how dumb women are, and yet they don’t know the definition of a dispensary?
I don’t think that’s the case, though; these guys aren’t uneducated. This reads to me more like a neural misfire. They wanted “sex dispensary”, but their brains put “meat” out instead. It happens when a neuron is activated which has a connected neuron which is very easy to fire and which is better connected. The more powerful associated neuron’s output masks the output of the original, but weaker output.
Which speaks absolute volumes about the associations that their brains hold regarding the concepts of sex and women.
Do we need a more clear demonstration of how gross these guys are?
http://i3.cpcache.com/product/1607789502/bender_shut_up_meatbag_square_sticker_3_x_3.jpg
Dudes, seriously listen to yourselves. Or, if you are incapable of that, reverse the gender pronouns and imagine whether you would jump into a relationship with a woman with a personality like your own. Because that’s your counterpart, your league. What would any woman with anything more going on or even a shred or self respect be doing with someone like you besides backing away slowly?
So am I, especially when it’s about me
Is that difficult? I mean, he’s assuming we’re not the type that gets sleepy afterwards. Given that, why would talking about ideas be hard to do. Does he think orgasm makes us stupid? Misandry?
Smoked brats? Or more grilled chicken? Jackasses…
Why is ‘labia’ not OK? It’s always some euphemism. ‘Beef flaps’ is a pretty funny euphemism, all things considered, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word ‘vulva’ in red on this blog
Too late
Cos people say that all the time
If half of all able bodied adults produced nothing, none of us would be here. The species woulda gone extinct ages ago
I’m not sure the math adds up on that… Or maybe it does. Whatever, I’ll hafta wait on her ‘field report’ to get the deets
The term “labia” is neutral and respectful, and the term “beef flaps” is disgusting and degrading. When offered the choice between the two tones, it’s pretty clear which they prefer.
@Scildfreja
Point taken
I, like the majority on this board, have broad, diverse, and deep opinons over a range of issues.
Perhaps if these assholes would let their (imaginery) dates have a few minutes to speak, they realize that.
Naw, they wouldn’t. I hope some deity protect the women in their path.
PS: I just became a Grandam!! *squee!!!!*
No man who has a decent real sex life has the time or inclination to discuss female sexy icky beef flap stuff.
With other men.
Doesn’t happen.
I really do wonder about these men’s sexuality sometimes– they seem to be genuinely repulsed by ladyparts.
The only time I’ve been on a cruise was for a milestone anniversary with Mr. Mespil. Somehow I think he would have objected to this.