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Men’s Rights Redditors predict a dystopian gynocracy under President Hillary Clinton

Hillary, destroying city BUILT BY MEN
Hillary, destroying a city BUILT BY MEN

I sometimes lie awake at night imagining the eldritch horrors of a Trump presidency. Men’s Rights Redditors, by and large, seem pretty stoked by the possibility. No, what keeps them awake at night is the thought of Hillary Clinton behind the desk in the Oval Office.

In a post on the Men’s Rights subreddit yesterday, one Men’s Rightser asked his compatriots what they thought would happen to men — especially working class men —  if (when?) Hillary wins in November.

“Hillary will destroy working-class males,” declared someone called Mens-Advocate.

“Suppression and demonization of males will continue unabated if not accelerate,” Maltreatments added.

“War with Russia and more suffering,” predicted DarthRedimo.

“Working class males will be sent to die in more neo-con wars while females stay home or at least off the front lines,” ThePigmanAgain warned.

The only place where Clinton will harm males and females equally is when it comes to being blown up by some lunatic Muslim pissed off at yet another sea of Arab blood being shed by the psycho in the white house.

As the Men’s Rights Redditor known as HQR3 sees it, Hillary Clinton will be even worse than the dreadfully misandrist Obama. Because Obama is only the tool of the feminist overladies; Hillary is one of the boss ladies herself.

“In gender terms, Obama is a lower level feminist,” HQR3 argues,

whereas Clinton is one of the feminist queen bees. Instead of having an intermediary like Valerie Jarrett relaying “suggestions” to the Oval Office, Hillary will be the originator of the feminist policies. And she knows precisely what to do.

And she’ll be really really sneaky about it, just like a woman:

Expect her first term in office not to have overt misandry, but rather she will indulge in extreme gynocentrism–e.g., women’s health, girls’ STEM education, women’s homelessness, PTSD among returning female vets, ad nauseam. … Don’t expect any overt misandry unless she wins a second term.

Here antimale stances will be subtle. While an Obama (or Biden, for that matter) would refuse (upon orders) not to meet with Warren Farrell, much less entertain the idea of WH Council on Men and Boys, Hillary would: she’d nod sympathetically, promise action, and dutifully deliver…an underfunded ($10M) council headed by Michael Kimmel, nagging boys into surrendering their masculinity.

To MRAs, the notion of Michael Kimmel, a feminist academic who writes regularly on masculinity, running a White House council on men is roughly akin to Adolf Hitler running a White House Hitler Club for Hitlers.

Other MRAs shared Trumpian nightmares of a country overwhelmed by immigrants. Someone called 4175 envisioned working class men facing

Depressed wages due to rush process of legalizing illegal immigrants …  [M]en, particularly black men, coming out of prison will have basically no chance of getting work as millions of former illegals with “clean” records that started on day one of their citizenship, will be the easier hire. 

Never mind that Hillary is pushing for reforms that would make it easier for those coming out of prison to get jobs.

Government jobs quickly become the best around through stability and wages, are now further dominated by women, especially with the huge difference in university degree rates which are a standard state/fed job requirement. Even worse will be direct pushes from white house for unequal woman-first hiring push in government in the afterglow of woman president election. Ripple effect lasts for generations.

Continuation of failed Rockefeller drug laws continue to ruin lower class male outcomes. Clinton made hay with being ‘tough on crime’ in the past, its an easy playbook to reach for again even in an era of decreasing crime rates.

Never mind that Hillary has called for the end of “racial profiling, and … racial disparities in sentencing,” as well as calling for “alternatives to incarceration, particularly for nonviolent and first-time offenders.” These things could drastically reduce the number of young black men wasting away in prison because of drug offenses.

Meanwhile, Trump has declared himself the “law and order candidate.” And decades before he decided to run for president, he famously took out a full-page ad in New York’s Daily News demanding the death penalty for the five teenagers — all of them black or hispanic — who were thought to have carried out the brutal rape and beating of a Central Park jogger. Turns out these then-kids were innocent; the real rapist confessed to one of the five in prison, and DNA evidence confirmed his story, after the now-adult five had spent a collective forty years in prison. Had Trump had his way they would have been killed at the hands of the state that had wrongly convicted them.

4175 was hardly the only Reddit MRA making up his own “facts” about Hillary.

“She’s on record officially supporting separate due process for women,” insisted Shammythefox, predicting “an administration that is very hostile to men.”

Of course Hillary supports no such thing. The claim seems to have come from a rather tendentious reading of an op-ed by the candidate discussing some of the unique problems faced by women in prison and their families, many of them stemming from the fact that mothers are far more likely than fathers to be the primary caregiver of their children.

This was, incidentally, the same op-ed in which she discussed the criminal justice reforms mentioned above — reforms that would benefit young black men most of all.

But never mind, because in the fever dreams of Men’s Rights Redditors, Hillary and the rest of the evil misandrists who run the world barely consider men to be human.

“[W]e’re on a slide to “pet”, then “object” (some are already there), and will end up at “pest” before things turn,” sniffed someone called rg57.

Still, not every Men’s Rights Redditor is predicting a man-geddon for working class men, or men in general, if Hillary is elected.

“Honestly I dont think much would change,” wrote Leinadro.

They would continue toiling away as the unsung backbone of the economy while being told they are entitled misogynists for having an opinion.

But there is one chance.

Bring up the plights of men to Clinton directly, openly, and frequently.

If feminism is about “equality for all people” then it shoulnt take much effort to at least have the greivances of men to be heard right? Sure change wont be instant but speaking up shouldnt be too hard right?

But Mens-Advocate — we met him earlier — had a ready response to this heretical view.

“I presume you think lynch victims should just have appealed to the Klan’s ‘better side’?” he asked sarcastically.

There should really be some sort of updated Godwin’s Law to invoke every time some MRA dude compares men to slaves or victims of the Klan.

Sometimes I wonder if we need to have a total and complete shutdown of white men voting until we can figure out what is going on.

NOTE TO LITERAL-MINDED MRAS: That last bit there contained

SARCASM

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Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

Once against, men of color are only mentioned by MRAs as a cudgel against a woman when you know they wouldn’t give two shits about them in any other situation.

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

These fools know less than nothing.

Bina
8 years ago

Funny how quickly they start to care about black dudes, but only when it serves their interests. Women? Get under the bus, all of you, no matter what color you are. Because if you don’t want to stay under our thumbs, that’s where you go! And shoot, what are facts when you have MALE OPINIONS? Inferior like feeeemales, of course!

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
8 years ago

Gynocentry is a word that needs to be burned.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

Sometimes when MRAs blather on like this, I wonder what would hurt them more: seeing their dire predictions come to pass, or living in a world that isn’t meeting their worst expectations. Most of the time, I think they’re more hurt that reality isn’t cooperating with their predictions.

buttercupia
buttercupia
8 years ago

How easily they imagine Hillary treating them like they’d like to treat all women.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

Waiting on the trolls, I mean concerned citizens against Clinton…

Also, I like how the 1 dude, who’s like ‘maybe we should actually do some activism and/or advocacy on behalf of men’s rights’, gets told off by the muffuga named Mens Advocate. But keep saying it’s really about men’s human rights. Totes believe you

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

[W]e’re on a slide to “pet”, then “object” (some are already there), and will end up at “pest” before things turn

Funny, that’s how women feel every time they read MGTOW/RedPill/RoK/etc etc etc.

Kootiepatra
8 years ago

…extreme gynocentrism–e.g., women’s health, girls’ STEM education, women’s homelessness, PTSD among returning female vets…

Extreme gynocentrism.

Health, education, homelessness, mental health.

Totes extreme, you guys.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
8 years ago

I’m wondering why she would want to meet Warren Farrell, and even more why this low level know nothing would be on her list of people to meet in the first place? Warren Farrell is a nobody, he’s only famous in MRA land, which isn’t the real world.

On a similar subject, I watched that movie hit piece ‘Clinton Cash’ – ‘follow the money’ it says, so I did, all the way to Breitfart ‘news’. Humph.

Banananana dakry
Banananana dakry
8 years ago

@Victorious Parasol

Because after all, MANLY MANLOGIKS and after all, MANLOGIKS are superior because they are made by a MAN. SUPERIOR MANLY MANLOGIKS. Reality must BEND TO THE MANLOGIKS OF MANLY MEN. Because MEN.

Or alternately, definition of an MRA: someone who thinks they are intrinsically superior because they have a penis, and who is pissed off that nobody else thinks the same. Including the laws of space and time.

Loquora
Loquora
8 years ago

Trump is stoking these idiot’s fires by saying today that if (most likely when) Clinton is elected that only a “Second Amendment” option would stop her from appointing Supreme Court justices he and his ilk disapprove of. Sick. And in a more just world he would be in jail for attempting to insight violence.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

[M]en, particularly black men, coming out of prison will have basically no chance of getting work as millions of former illegals with “clean” records that started on day one of their citizenship, will be the easier hire.

If a male former convict and a male former “illegal” go up for the same job, and the job goes to the “illegal,” has a man’s job been stolen? Trick question! “Illegals” cannot be men. They are the faceless, genderless Other.

dlouwe
dlouwe
8 years ago

They would continue toiling away as the unsung backbone of the economy while being told they are entitled misogynists for having an opinion.

It’s always telling when they make vague statements like “for having an opinion.” They’re quite clearly trying to avoid (or simply can’t fathom) the fact that a lot of men are called entitled misogynists because they have entitled and misogynist opinions. When someone comes in and accuses feminists for labeling or shutting down people “just because they _____” without any context, it’s generally only a matter of time before they say something that warrants said label or being shut down.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
8 years ago

Kootiepatra said what I was gonna say. It’s hilarious, and infuriating, that they say “The things women are asking for are totally unreasonable!” and then list – health care, education, social support.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton won’t meet with Warren Farrell to hear about men being oppressed by female butts and not getting to expect sex in exchange for a drink? What kind of dystopia is this? How dare Obama have focused on silly first world problems like getting us out of a recession. How horrible that Clinton is promising to work on such silly female frivolities as student loan debt relief.

Luckily Trump will surely appoint Farrell as the Tzar of the War on Girl Germs department. Trump for president of MRAmerica!!!!

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Ooh, right, yes, sorry to post again so quickly but dlouwe reminded me: do you know who actually make up the unsung backbone of the US economy, you MRA tools? Yeah. Undocumented immigrants. The very same group of people you’re all shitting on.

magnesium
magnesium
8 years ago

whereas Clinton is one of the feminist queen bees

lol no. And it got stupider from there.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

I love how they describe Clinton as a super intelligent mastermind that will have very precises plans to get her goal rolling.

I wish I could be as optimistic as they are about the skill of any political man or woman.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko
8 years ago

@Ohlmann

Tip : you mean “politician”. Not to play grammar nazi, but here it might be useful to correct, as “political person” doesn’t mean quite the same in English as in French.

As for how they describe her, it’s less as a super intelligent mastermind than as an evil, cunning and ruthless one, because don’tcha know, women can’t be intelligent. But they’re evil. Because vaginas or something.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

@ Banananana dakry

When an MRA attempts to logic, I find myself wondering where I could get a thimbleful of scumble.

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
8 years ago
Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
8 years ago

@leftwingfox Diabolical. That hurts just watching that. 😛

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

@Viscaria

Well I certainly hope he (the MGHOW responsible for that particular prediction) doesn’t mean he thinks that in order for them to receive their citizenship they will have to be ‘desexed’? Either way that sort of BS isn’t going to happen as part of a Clinton presidency (breathes sigh of sweet relief thinking about it).

I had to explain to my uncle over dinner Sunday why I feel it’s a bad idea to vote for a third party ticket, particularly in the coming presidential election this year. He seems to think that if the third party won by a landslide in a state or two and the house gets the final decision by default hierarchic government processes, chaos will not ensue and problems will not abound. *sigh* Still not going to be part of such a foolish effort, uncle, I’m voting for Hillary and that’s that.

*And I would so contribute money to those re-education camps….hell I know where people with treadmills they don’t want can donate them now! 😛

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