MGTOW Memeday: Crushed by the wheels of Ladies’ Night

So on the cosplay thing:

Of course, as PI and Argle Bargle have both pointed out, many female characters in video games/anime/etc. etc. *are designed* in skimpy clothing. To portray them accurately requires dressing with boobs and/or midriff and/or butt emphasized. It is profoundly silly to complain about real women at a con dressing like the fake women you already watch in your favorite shows or games.

If women are playing some kind of cheap game by dressing like that for your attention, then maybe you dudebros oughta get a bit mad at the designers who draw women like that for your attention. Just sayin’.

But something that also strikes me about this is that, once again, it involves the dudebro brigade pretending like any women ranked less than an HB8 simply don’t exist.

I’ve noticed when I see a woman on the internet cosplaying a more covered character–let’s say full-armor Samus–there will inevitably be comments like, “UGH, finally, a female cosplayer who isn’t all about showing off her boobs for attention.” “See, THIS is how cosplay should be.”

And every time, I want to respond, “DUDE, those kinds of costumes are EVERYWHERE; you just don’t care about them.”

(And of course, there’s nothing wrong with having a boob-ful costume, but that’s another topic entirely.)

But seriously. I’ve seen so many female cosplayers who have amazing costumes that do not center around looking sexy. I’ve seen female cosplayers who specialize in non-ridiculous medieval armor (i.e. armor that would actually protect your vitals from arrows and wouldn’t shatter your sternum if you tripped and fell). I’ve seen female space marines and Muppets and storm troopers and wookiees and Pokemon. I’ve seen Miss Frizzles and Chells and Reys and Golden Girls and Consuelas.

They are out there, and they are *everywhere*–but angry internet dudebros only really care about seeing boobs, and so they mostly only remember the costumes where they see boobs, and thus they believe that’s how most women cosplay.

Additionally, many, many women don’t want to deal with the stigma of dressing as a character that “doesn’t fit their body type”, and so the vast majority of women who a) aren’t young/completely thin/non-jiggly, and b) want to cosplay without having to deal with fat-shaming BS, are going to have to find non-skimpy costumes that they feel comfortable rocking at a convention. Those cosplayers are out there in droves, and they have amazing costumes, but since they wouldn’t be showcased on a pinup poster, once again, the dudebros just don’t care and don’t see them.

(And of course I have nothing but mad respect for women who flip the bird to fat-shaming BS and dress in skimpy costumes anyway–but I’ma hazard a guess that the dudebro brigade doesn’t share that feeling. Even though they would high five the bearded beer-gutted hairy dude who was ironically cosplaying slave Leia.)

Basically, if a guy on the internet is whining about how tricksy feeeeeeemales are boobs-and-butting their way into his precious hobby, that says a lot more about him than it does about any actual women who cosplay. Extra especially if he is whining about them getting more attention than him.

“Didn’t Tim post the same copypasta as MarkyMark in the suicide thread yesterday?

What a dipshit.”

Good one. The “dipshit” part was just so powerful.

@Axecaliber: Oh totally. Bearded Leia is awesome, it’s just highly telling that dudebros don’t have a problem with that but *do* have a massive problem with any woman who isn’t young, thin, and white wearing the same costume.

I was going to try and respond to specific things Tim said but it got too inane, so shorter version: 1) enjoy tilting at all those strawmen in your tinfoil hat; 2) you are absolutely, 100%, entirely free to never get married. Have a party. GYOW. I’m sure society will struggle along somehow.

(Although I cannot for the life of me fathom how MGTOW is supposed to address the declining birth rate, but what do I know.)

It actually looks like only the first few paragraphs of Tim’s screed is copy-pasted from MarkyMark’s, though I really can’t be bothered to check to be 100% certain. Guaranteed it’s chock full of laughable bullshit either way.

(kisses fingers) MWAH, that is truly a masterpiece among poorly made charts. Not only do we have, as mentioned already, the instant red flag that is 3D stylisation and COMPLETELY undisclosed units*, but also a misleading chart title, overlapping time period divisions, and ungrammatical descriptions (“WWII & Vietnam Suffer A lot of male Casualties,” do they?).

That’s without getting into what I’m sure was the joyous measurement science feat of determining whether each binaried individual was “attractive,” “unattractive,” or “gay.”

Masterpiece. It should be part of a school curriculum.

*I could generously assume this is meant to be US resident population in the millions averaged over the three 30-year periods (yikes) and the one shorter period, but that’s meeting the creator well more than halfway, and in an alternate reality.

Good one. The “dipshit” part was just so powerful.

Your half assed copypaste is not worthy of my best mockery or the best mockery of anyone else here. Run along now.

@Tim Tam Bim Bam Flim Flam Zim Zipidi do da my oh my what a wonderful day
Meng we already discussed this in another thread, try to mix things up with your own rhetoric otherwise it’s like talking to an echo.

Tim, snookums, could you please do us a HUGE favor and go your own damn way already…FAR AWAY FROM HERE?

Thanks awfully.

@Tim

Oh, so you’re just the same boring person. What are you hoping to achieve? Like, someone gave you a proper reply to your last comment, but you didn’t bother to respond.

I’d ask “Tim” to name one example of a man who has actually had his life ruined because he posted on a feminist blog, but I suspect that he wouldn’t be able to actually substantiate that claim. Furthermore, given the rather excessive amount of evidence that points to men having relatively successful careers despite constantly saying incredibly misogynistic stuff, I’d be disinclined to believe any “evidence” he could pull up in the first place, at least on the basis of it being an example of feminists destroying a man’s life.

Tim, my man, if you’re the same Mark that used his own photo recently then you’ve already exposed your real identity and yet we didn’t do anything awful to you because we’re not monsters. FFS, Tim, not everyone operates like you.

My real name is totally weirwoodtreehugger and I am a well known member of the communist bonobo community. I post under my real name because we live in such a gynocentric culture that no feminist has ever been harassed or threatened for posting feminist things online before.