Say what you will about the meme-makers at the Going GHOST – MGTOW Facebook page, but you have to give them credit for one thing: their laser-like focus on the issues that truly matter to men.
And I don’t mean silly frivolous fluff like prison rape or workplace safety or prostate cancer. No, I mean the issues that REALLY matter. Like ladies night. And hot chicks playing video games in their underwear.
Let’s take a look at these and other totally important issues they raise.
1) Females today being a bunch of ugly lesbians
2) The aforementioned Ladies Night
3) Hot babes playing video games in their underwear
4) Hot babes getting more “likes” on Facebook for their cosplay pics than I got for my totally awesome Batman costume, no, I’m not bitter
5) Women dressing up as sexy Darth Vader even though they probably don’t even know who he is, probably!
6) Females doing Yoga wrong, and also having jobs and voting
Clearly the only way to deal with a society this corrupt is to Go Your Own Way and live a life of quiet dignity like Henry David Thoreau devote all your free time to yelling about how women suck on the internet.
Will someone explain to these guys that the reason clubs have ladies nights has nothing to do with ‘female privilege’, it’s because clubs know that if a club has lots of women in it, lots of men will follow, and the men will eagerly spend money trying to get those women drunk. All rather creepy, but it comes down to supply and demand.
Likewise years ago when I was looking into sperm donation I found a web site that offered to informally pair women up with men prepared to donate without the expenses of a sperm bank. The men were given free membership, the women had to pay. Supply and demand.
That said, there is a certain optimism to that ladies night meme, it shows a lot of women apparently in high paying careers.
Maybe this is just my geographic location, but I can’t remember the last time I saw a ladies’ night or discount of any sort. Seems they’re fairly simple to avoid or boycott or go your own way away from.
@Banned
Not as a matter of policy; the cop in question lifts weights and dies crossfit as a hobby. Also competes on Swedish Ninja Warrior apparently.
I’m think we’ve already seen #2.
#3 is the most inconsequential complaint ever. Why do you care that women are expressing interest in video games and comic books? Why do you think they didn’t always care about them? Why are you trying to push them out so that it can just be a boys club? Basically, fuck you, I love being able to talk about video games with my SO and I wish she had even more interest in them.
And yeah, the whining about those cosplays is hilarious. That Yuna outfit is far more accurate to one of Yuna’s costumes than the Batman is to any of his. It’s like a combination of Batman Beyond, Batman 1989, and New 52 Batman or Nolanverse Batman.
um-i’m fairly positive that ladies are free on ‘ladies night’ so that ladies actually come in to the bars, not because of some feminazi plot to redistribute income.
Button,
I love how non STEM degrees are utterly useless and how the wage gap is the fault of women for stupid useless girly degrees. Until it’s time for a whine about gynocentric society is. Then women suddenly all have high paying fancy jobs that were unfairly handed to us.
@WWTH, yep! And if a woman makes less than her male partner she’s a gold-digger, but if a woman makes as much as or more than her male partner she’s emasculating/probably cuckolding him.
Regarding #4, if you want to be upset about “slutty” cosplays then you need to get upset about the fact that this is how the vast majority of female characters are drawn. A women that wants to dress up like her favorite character is, the majority of the time, going to have to wear something that you have deemed slutty.
(Thanks to those who posted pictures of the character that cosplay was based on since I was clueless. Major props to her for that costume. Asshats like this guy have no idea how much work goes into creating something like that.)
Forgot to mention for a second when I saw the Yuna costume I thought it was a still from the super high-Def CGI Squenix likes to use, so….
First of, I would LOVE to see more women in IT but let’s be real, the MRA goons are doing a bang up job of keeping it a boys club (before there was GGate there was a bunch of stories of women being harassed out of tech jobs or conventions). Are they whining that because it’s a DOD (government) job it has some sort of requirement of trying to attain gender parity? Because I guarantee you that if the DOD has gender parity for IT jobs they are miles ahead of every other employer in the field and there really ought to be about, oh, 9 other guys to this woman in the queue (according to my lived experience of gender ratios).
As for “HR for IBM”: all the men working as software or hardware engineers there have that salary at *entry level* positions. So again, should be 9 men to that one woman in the queue with that wage and job description.
Next: the Gamestop guy is basically a retail wage worker. Take every woman working for clothing stores (retail in general, outside of specialty stores like Gamestop, is overwhelmingly a female-coded job) and add them in the queue.
Oh, wow. The profile picture for “Going GHOST – MGTOW” on Facebook is Darth Nihilus, run through a color filter.
My days of not taking MGTOWs seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
Yay! Assfax galore!
Let’s break this down Paradoxy Style, shall we~?
As many people have pointed out before me, these graphs are wonky as fuck. I’m not even a mathematician or a statistic analyzer person (Poor Scildfreja), but even I’m doing the Confusion Head Tilt on this one.
http://i.imgur.com/vIaqV8R.gif
Also, I don’t think they account for how many people were actually gay. I mean, the concepts of homosexuality (and even the rest of the acronym) have been around for a LONG time. It’s very likely that a lot of the “gay” people (the only ones Mr. Meme accounts for on the spectrum due to his Visual Rectum Issue) were just counted among “attractive” and “unattractive”.
However, I would like to point out that this guy seems to think a LOT of men are considered “attractive”. I mean, if you look, apparently the number of “attractive” men goes UP, while the number of “attractive” women goes DOWN.
Mr. Meme probably attributes that to SSF, or Something, Something, Feminism.
Well, here’s a few things:
1. You don’t know if all those women actually make more money than you. You just labeled them as such for the sake of your (horribly photoshopped) meme.
And no, some women making more money than you doesn’t mean the wage gap is a myth, the same way that having one cookie be chocolate chip means that all cookies are chocolate chip.
It just means that there happens to be some women who make more money than you do. Of course, if some of those men were in the same fields, no doubt that they’d make more money than the ladies.
2. Now, on to the real issue: Why do bars have Ladies Nights in the first place?
Simple. To attract women. Who will then get drunk. And the idea of drunk women will attract men looking to get a quick hook-up (or worse), who will spend MORE MONEY to get these women hosed.
So, don’t like the idea of your bar holding a Ladies Night? Don’t go. Don’t give that bar your money.
Simple, yeah?
Gaming was, is, and always will be, a space populated by women, men, and non-binary peeps. Us feeemales have always been here, always will be here, and yes, it was even our refuge for those of us “females” who were nerdy and outcast as well.
Hell, I played Pokemon Silver on my GameBoy to escape from a school life where I was bullied for being fat and nerdy, and a home life where I was being abused by a shitty parent.
Of course, you don’t care about any of that, because I wasn’t born with a penis. (And you wouldn’t care now if I used masculine pronouns, because y’all hate trans men.)
However, let’s address another issue: “female attention w*ores”.
I always find it hilarious that the irony of that statement flies right over these meme-makers’ heads.
Why irony? Because they themselves are the demand for this sort of thing. A woman goes out of her way to be appealing and sexy for gamer dudes, and you not only demand more, but you’ll turn around in the same breath and vilify her for doing it.
“She’s an awful attention w*ore for daring to do what I wanted her to do!”
No, you’re just mad she’s doing it of her own volition, and she wouldn’t touch your sexist ass with a ten foot barge pole. You want women to be sexy, but you don’t want it to be in a way you can’t control either. You want her to be sexy only for you, and the thought that she doesn’t want to fuck you makes you mad.
Well, obviously, there are some other things at play here like number of friends, when it was posted, and other stuff like that, but let’s just talk about the sexism, hmm?
First of all, that Yuna costume is completely authentic, though I figure most of you MAYUNLY MEN haven’t played FFX-2 because it had three self-reliant female leads, who were out to find a love interest of Yuna’s, and its class system was essentially a complicated game of dress-up. You know, girly stuff.
Second of all, that Yuna costume was designed BY A MAN. Specifically, Tetsuya Nomura.
So, it’s a woman accurately cosplaying a sexy, skimpy design made by a man, and yet, she’s still to blame for it because…?
Oh, wait, I know. Because us feeemales are out to trick you with our butts.
Ah, yet again, a market is made for sexy cosplay of gender-bent male characters by men, and these same men vilify women who participate in it.
Here’s the crux of my argument on this (and why I’m slightly confused): Why are you accusing her of being “a w*ore who wants attention”, and then giving her attention?
Isn’t that what the insidious feeemale wants? Your attention? Why are you giving it to her?
Maybe if you stop giving her attention by drawing attention to her, and she’s there solely for attention, she’ll stop doing it?
Just a thought.
Calling back to a previous example…
Here’s the thing: All the things your “angry white female” trope mention are all choices, save for the job thing, which I’m going to need to see some facts on that one.
Oh, who am I kidding? You don’t have any. But I do: Unemployment of men and women is actually roughly the same across all age groups, however married women have higher rates of unemployment, in the United States.
As for the choices: women choose to go to college and vote.
Women choose go to college because that’s the only way we’ll get a decent job, whereas men are more likely to get jobs that don’t require that level of formal training. Lots of men choose to go to less-traditional vocational schools instead of go to a four-year college (mostly because it’s cheaper, and I don’t blame them).
Women choose to vote because our grandmothers and great-grandmothers fought for our right to vote, and a lot of us are far more interested and invested in politics, especially when some politicians don’t know anything about our biology and try to make laws based on their ignorance.
And you could make those choices too, Mr. Meme Maker! You could CHOOSE to go to college and vote! You could! No one’s stopping you!
But you don’t. So, that’s on you, not the feeemales.
And I don’t see how women can’t have a moment of peace by doing yoga (or however individual women relax) and then get right back on being feminists and getting angry that the world is still unjust to women and people who aren’t cisgendered, heterosexual, white dudes.
Hello, we are also humans with complex brains and are capable of caring about more than one thing at a time, and sometimes we need a break from your constant bullshit.
As for your “real yoga”, you really need to learn how to do better Google-Fu. That’s a monk, not a yogi, as several people have mentioned.
Google fail.
@Dalillama
It’s still probably why people are having less sex in Sweden, though. The women are getting too misandricly manly. We all know women aren’t allowed to have muscles.
Not strictly on topic:
I’m watching a movie called ”No Men Beyond This Point” and the male organisation (Male Liberation Organisation) reminds me off the MGTOW/MRA/Red Pill types. They claim the female led government has been lacing their food with ”the girly hormone” in an attempt ”to kill their boners”. They complain about said food, but when the leader is asked whether they couldn’t just grow and prepare their own food, he said ”Yes, we can, but we choose not to. Out of protest”. And I’m wondering whether Elam, Roosh and the others haven’t been used for inspiration for this guy.
I also have a problem with meme #2, I mean besides what everyone has already mentioned. It rubs me the wrong way that the linguist would say “da boys”. This meme-maker probably didn’t put so much thought into it, but it feels deliberate.
In the case of meme #6, I somehow automatically read the lines “Apparently, females are doing it wrong. Females do yoga for superficial reasons” in the most whiny voice possible and it made so much sense! (Also, I hate that the words females and males (but mostly females) have become nouns. I know this is not a new thing, but it’s sooooo ANNOYING. (Full disclosure: I might have studied linguistics in uni.))
That’s some huge ass mosaic censoring…
@kupo
#9 is outstanding
@EJ
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@PI
Re: Scildfreja mentions
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@Axecalibur:
Scildfreja is a data scientist by trade. Data people have some… strong… opinions on the correct way to represent data. Giving them a 3D stacked bar chart would be like giving ej a Lysenkoist text or explaining to me how Pluto is actually a planet.
@Axe: Scildfreja is our resident statistician, and has been known to layth the smacketh down on those who abuse them.
And thank ya kindly. ;D
I’m pretty sure that’s the best way to describe the whole of the manosphere in a nutshell.
“Wimmens and feminists are evil because they’re not helping us with our problems! We’re being laid low by the matriarchy! We built everything and hunted the mammoth to feed you, so we could solve our own problems, but we’re choosing not to, out of protest!”
The “time to be flaky with da boys” line tells me they’re not angry that women get in the club free, they’re angry that they don’t show their gratitude for the free entry by giving out blow jobs to any man who hits on them. It doesn’t occur to them that a woman might go to a club because she wants to dance and hear music and hang out with her friends. Everything women do has to be about men. Therefore, if a woman turns a man down, she must be doing it to tease him and assert her feeemaale hypnotic butt powers.
@EJ + PI
Oh yes, I know who she is. It’s just, “Poor Scildfreja, I’m glad she’s not here to see this” sounds… ominous
Didn’t have time to edit my previous post, so here goes another one:
Okay, so they complain that women dress up as ”slutty” scantly dressed characters. Because that makes women whores. For actually doing an accurate cosplay of said character. I’d even even say that maybe they don’t want women do be dressing up like slutty sluts and that the feeeeemales should do some ”real” cosplay.
However, if someone even mentions making more varied female characters in movies and anime, ones that aren’t clothed in what can generously be called extravagant steampunkinsh liengerie, they throw a fit about how the evil feeeeeemales are trying to stifle creativity and destroy the joy of watching animated boobs jiggle.
So in summation : women accurately cosplaying scantly dressed characters sucks. But don’t make female characters with more clothes!
Once again – women can’t win.
@ViolinlessHoax
U.S. academic linguistics culture is in a descriptivist phase, so while the misspelling may have been meant as an insult, a real linguist would probably be the least insulted of anyone in the meme at having it attributed to them.
*Everything a female does is wrong
*ignorant of history
*out of touch of reality
*have no personality other than being a bitter misognyist
*whines about everything a woman/girl gets
*Claims everything to be a ‘man’s space’ even though it’s either a public space or they belong to women and girls in the first place
*calls women and girls ‘females’ and misognyist slurs
*believes everything a feeeemale does is for his and other guys’ attention
*says women are privileged but complain about rejection and hurt feelings from white/male jokes
“Why won’t women date me!? Ugh I knew females don’t like nice guys! I’m going to go my own way! That’ll show them! ..Any day now..”
Was reading a post on a feminist site the other day with a title that read, “Does Misandry Exist?”
I had to really laugh at the comments by feminists. One posted that she wasn’t comfortable with the word misandry because it implied that men suffered as much as women through institutionalized misogyny. Hilarious.
Women didn’t demand equality with men until men made it safe for them to have equality with men. Women were given their equality on a silver platter by men when they demanded it. They didn’t fight and die for their rights the way men did. Instead, they simply demanded their rights as a result of men’s deaths. That’s because women want equality without the expectation of responsibility.
Institutionalized misogyny? Men get far harsher sentences for the same crimes and that’s institutionalized misogyny? The vast majority of alimony, asset division and child support goes from men to women and that’s institutionalized misogyny? The male-only draft is institutionalized misogyny? That men suffer like 98% of war and workplace deaths is institutionalized misogyny? That the bulk of state and federal spending on health, education and welfare goes to women – even though men pay the majority of taxes – is institutionalized misogyny? That men are the majority of suicides in institutionalized misogyny? The list goes on and on and on. Isn’t this really institutionalized misandry?
After reading a lot of feminist garbage, I’ve found that mostly what they do is cherry pick statistics or just create outright fraudulent statistics to further their true goal – which is the destruction of men. The most disastrous thing feminists do in their own defense is to point to the dictionary definition of feminism as proof that they don’t hate men – and then go on to promote laws and policies that further vilify and destroy men’s lives. Thankfully, men are waking up. Feminism is a nation destroyer.
I know, right?! Hundreds of thousands of men’s lives get destroyed every year, in the US alone, through parental alienation, divorce, asset division, child support and false accusations – and yet men continue to give women life destroying power over their lives. It’s nuts! It’s no different than handing lawyers and women your money and smiling afterwards over your own self-sacrifice – while putting a gun to your own head! Crazy! The simple solution? Stop giving women and the government life destroying power over your life. Simply refuse to engage in what could result in your own life destruction. It’s all so simple – yet marriage for men is promoted as the end all – be all – of life for men. Wonder why. No real surprise. You can’t con people into their own destruction without blatant lies, illusions and enchantments.
The real deal breaker is coming via the end of outsourcing of birth to the breeder nations upon which Westernized nations now so rely (India, the African Continent, South America, the Middle East, etc). The big secret of mass immigration is that – instead of it being based upon the acceptance of downtrodden refugees – what’s really happening is a frantic outsourcing of birth to patriarchal nations. Hilarious. That’s amazing – because as feminism spreads – the outsourcing of birth will be cut off – followed by decreasing populations and economic collapse. Just look at Japan. They lost a million in population over the past few short years. All of the aforementioned breeder nations are battling lower marriage and birth rates as well – all easily attributed to the growing power of feminism in their own countries.
If one believes that the best one can do is to promote policies and laws that benefit women only – in the here and now – then feminism is the gold standard. My hope is to educate men and save them from the life destroying laws and policies that so ruin men’s lives on behalf of women and the state. The illusions and enchantments promoted in women’s favor aren’t true. Women are not sugar and spice and everything nice. The best men can do is deny women’s and white knight’s punishment – for being men – through the state and federal laws that force wealth and power from men to women. There’s no better choice. Simply cut off the forced wealth and power transfer. It’s so simple. Women walked away from the table long ago. Men are still sitting at the negotiation table foolishly expecting more illusions and enchantments – instead of the hard, cold truth. Men’s demise – all throughout time – is their naivete with regard to female nature.
All of the above points will never be raised in the mainstream media. Why? Because our entire system is built around male disposability and deeply embedded cultural misandry. If this fact becomes widely known – it all comes tumbling down – hence the mainstream media’s and feminist’s hatred of MRAs and MGTOWs. Feminists only bring up men’s issues in an effort to implement new anti-male laws and policies – and the state and federal government always follows suit. Why? To maintain their own power through genuflecting to the gynocracy. Again – to save yourself – all you need do is to not play their game. It’s really is that simple – yet tragically difficult to accept – at least for men.
MGTOW
Is anyone else fascinated by the choice of contrast in “slutty costume” vs “authentic costume?” Is he trying to say something about sincerity? Because both costumes are fairly accurate portrayals of the character in question (both are good as cosplay, though frankly, I see more gleeful geekiness in playing a semi-obscure video game character than one of the most recognizable pop culture icons in existence).