Hey, remember when Friday was meme-day here at We Hunted the Mammoth? We’ve missed a couple, mostly because of horrible things happening in the world, but we’re back!
Today, some of the weirdest pro-Trump and anti-Hillary memes I’ve run across lately. Most of these are from Reddit — in particular, from r/The_Donald and r/HillaryForPrison. Enjoy, I guess.
Now this last meme — which I’ve censored a little — isn’t really all that weird. It’s just kind of revealing, at least about the sort of people who sit around making anti-Hillary memes.
Yikes.
@Axecalibur:
It might at that. Maths is the mother of us all, of course. Ignoring it would be a huge oversight, even if mathematicians are generally less objectionable than physicists or doctors.
@EJ:
Well, that makes two then. I’m an industrial chemist.
@ Axe Well, to the best of my knowledge the other hammer users have used different names, like Thunderstrike, Bill that brief time he had Mjolnir and not his own hammer, that… Other guy from that group of people who went to help Thor when he went insane? It was a miniseries or something.
I personally would have used the Thordis name from that one What If issue, but whatevs.
Other than that, I also am not a fan how the Hammer just likes her better. It feels like an overly aggressive attempt by the writers to just say “Well she’s so much better than the old Thor so there!”
…then again, Thor is my favorite marvel character, so maybe I’m just overly sensitive.
ETA: At least, I’m told the hammer supposedly likes her more. I don’t have much time or money to pick up comics a lot, so I haven’t been able to stay right on top of things.
@Alan
Maybe it’s different in the UK, but my concern is with the way kids are actively encouraged to engage in risky behavior by the school system. I don’t care what they do on their own. The school doesn’t have competitive backpacking where kids are rewarded for pushing as hard as they can. If there’s ever the rare field trip where risks like that are involved, children are monitored to ensure they’re bring safe. Not so with sports, where they’re actively encouraged to be violent against one another and considered weak if they need to tend to their bodies’ needs, like rehydration or rest. I was constantly told I needed to keep pushing when I was winded and it hurt to breathe, that I wasn’t being aggressive enough if I tried to avoid injury, etc. No one once told me the actual risks of running my body that hard. Sure, I knew people got injured but I didn’t know pushing your body that hard regularly could injure my joints, as one example. My dad had a bad knee from sports but I assumed he had hurt it by colliding with someone or something like that, not just ran himself too hard.
@Gert : thoses links are vile and repulsive. One call Israeli neonazi, which is either not knowing what word mean or being a slightly obfuscated propaganda sites.
Also :
* French people aren’t exactly overwhelmingly in favor of Israel. Their government tend to be, but for the same reason that french dislike liberalism and their government ignore them. But at all elections, a bunch of french politician give public demonstration of their love of palestinian, because it’s a very important demographic to court.
* remember that they are a lot of mysogyne women before trying to use the “they declare to be jewish, so they aren’t antisemitic” card too much.
@EJ : I think I will pass, because I am too busy with out-of-jobs things already, especially since it’s not like you will need help to see the good things in Paris or have a good time. But many thanks for the proposition !
Gert, I know you want to just keep diligently elaborating on how you don’t understand how dogwhistles work, but I’ll give you a hint: Just because some people use a word in a legitimate context doesn’t mean it’s not also used in a bigoted context.
ETA: That’s not to say that Gert is giving good examples; I don’t have the time to actually assess them. Just working from the best case scenario where they are good examples.
@SFHC
No… and I’ve just tried to do a search for recent comments from her, with no success.
I Googled the first one, got to the part where they’re “JEWS DID 9/11” truthers and noped away.
uhm, sooo when you are committed to treating people equally, you dont go, “well Im only gonna care sbout the most important cases and the most serious stuff”, you treat them exactly how they want to be treatedcall the time. If someone asks me not to spread the idea that mental illness is bad by calling everything crazy, Im at least gonna not do so in front of that person. Its basic decency, even if you disagree, and you dont need to register your disagreement if its not welcome & the other party is causing no harm. I know its the internet but you dont need to fight everything endlessly. Just follow the fucking rules in spaces like this bc most of the rest of the world esp the net is free and game on for being a total dillhole if you want, but not so free and easy for people with disabilites as a result.
I’ve also been worried about occasional reader.
Also: Hi, Americans. I’m here! 🙂
@ kupo
It would be interesting to compare the UK and US experiences. The impression I get, and I stress it’s only a perception, is that there does seem to be more of a culture of pushing for excellence in the US. Is it something to do with enhancing prospects of university? Maybe it’s a cultural thing. We’ve got that “it’s not whether you win or lose but how you play the game” vibe, and also that ‘plucky loser’ thing, like its vulgar to win. I wonder if that’s reflected in other areas. Compare say, leading men in films, George Clooney versus Hugh Grant. (Sorry, getting a stream of consciousness thing going now 🙂 )
Anyone got experiences of both systems who, unlike me, actually knows what they’re taking about and could comment?
Oh and weirdly we do sort of have competitive backpacking. There’s this Duke of Edinbourough Award scheme. There’s more to it than getting lost in the wilderness, but that is a part of it. Brits eh?
Hi, Petal! IIRC, you’re really far away from me, but I hope you enjoy your stay. 🙂
@SFHC
Oh no. I’d completely forgotten, its been over a week since. Now I’m similarly worried and pretty anxious. Her last comment (that I have in my emails) is from the week before the attack. I don’t know what that means, I’m just grasping at straws…
@Josh
The name Thordis breaks me out in hives. I can’t. Thor’s my 2nd favorite (after Cyclops), so I get the sensitivity
@ kupo
I love the rather resigned “this sort of thing does happen from time to time” comment. “Duke of Edinburgh team lost” is a pretty standard story here. 🙂 [Happily, they always turn up in the end]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/twenty-school-children-lost-on-brecon-beacons-as-mountain-rescue/
Re: Dog whistles and Zionism/Zionist
*sigh*
It’s not ultimately hard beyond overcoming pride, but it requires having a decent ability to think in other perspectives and recognizing the reality of the social conflict we find ourselves in, and a sense for how language functionally operates in that context. Developing that ability/sense requires accepting the experiences of others, not denying one’s own experience.
There is no “right way” to use language here, there is only how it is actually used. If one wants the language to be used a certain way criticizing people for recognizing some of the ways it gets used is counterproductive. The people that need the criticism here are the bigots using Zionism/Zionist in a bigoted way.
It’s appropriate to recognize that bad people tend to use certain language in certain ways as long as one recognizes that it’s a matter of probability and confirms that the person is the bad person in question. If a “sensor” “pings” having a confirmation step is wise. I don’t think that Gert is the sort of bigot that the sensor is meant for, but they are rightfully getting criticized for being overly sensitive to the process of figuring out if the sensor pinged correctly or not.
People pretending they are what they are not in order to do damage to a community are a real thing. Communities get to have ways to deal with that.
If you’re actually nervous about Occasional Reader, I advice trying to get in touch with David. Her email address is stored somewhere in the comment and “I fear she’s dead in the attentats” look like a valid reason to get her email.
I know when I was growing up in the eighties school sports were considered a joke and something to be diligently skiived off from. Any sporting interests were better served via local clubs. I fenced (foil and then epee) during my teens for example but did that totally off my own bat.
Maybe now University is so expensive, sports scholarships will become more of a Thing here in the UK and school sporting achievement will become as important as it seems to be in the US (at least from all the US telly I see).
@Alan
Somewhat tangential to the topic, an interesting tidbit about “cultural differences in approach to sports” – Canadian retailers can’t even sell NCAA video games because the athletes aren’t paid royalties from the sales. Obviously it’s not indicative of all sports, but the way that college basketball players are treated is pretty deplorable (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX8BXH3SJn0)
* Marks Varalys down as person to stick close to in event of Zombie apocalypse*
@ dlouwe
That’s one of my favourite phrases round here 🙂
Perhaps one of the best depictions of the exploitation of athletes, and pertinent to our discussion about injuries, is “North Dallas 40”.
Of course the athletic activity with the most catastrophic injuries per participant is cheerleading.
@dlouwe : in France, there is no sport team in school. Sport is one of the mandatory topic until 18 year old or so, but all competitive structure are separated from school.
That make a lot of american movie harder to understand, especially when one is young. Jock is not something that exist in France, they are replaced by the delinquant type (if you have a good knowledge of mangas, think of the various delinquants in manga, it’s the same principle).
That mean that movies with a “jerk who is the captain team” antagonist make the audience wonder why he is not expulsed from the school for its antics, or why that whole team thing is a big deal at all.
(did I say today that France and Japan have a lot of unexpected cultural overlap ? Some may say it include the superiority complex and the racism)
@Alan: I would totally rule in the zombie apocalypse. Not only have I copious experience fighting them virtually I actually own a large kukri sword in it’s own leather scabbard, a heirloom I inherited from my grandmother who spent many years living in India in the fifties and sixties. I have been studying techniques for using it online (not too hard, it’s weighted for hacking and slashing hard on the downward strike) and if that fails I have my wooden nunchuks, which I learned to use when I studied Jeet Kun Do in my twenties before my back started to give out on me, to fall back on!
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs:
Do please point to what you found.
Why did you even google when clicking was enough?
And cheerleading is another completely alien thing for a french. It just don’t even start to make sense, why don’t they form a sport team ? Or go to the library ?
@ varalys
I am so impressed! I don’t know anyone (apart from Bruce Lee and that 3 year old kid on YouTube) who can use nunchucks without smacking themselves in the face. We can’t even be trusted with the foam rubber ones.
You know that myth that you can never sheath a Kukri unless it’s drawn blood?