The scene: A McDonald’s in Ottawa. A man orders a chicken sandwich. The woman behind the counter tells him they’re out. He calls her a bitch.
And then this happens:
[VIDEO REMOVED. Several people have come to me with information that made me question whether it was appropriate to post this video, and so I have removed the link. –DF]
It’s a little confusing, I’ll admit, but this is a film worth multiple viewings. Some of the highlights, in case you were thrown off by all the shouting.
- Dude trying repeatedly to “explain” to the woman behind the counter, who is calling the cops, that “bitch” is in fact a “proper English word.”
- Dude raising the important Men’s Rights issue of how come he can’t hit women but he can hit men?
- Dude raising the equally important Men’s Rights issue of how come women get all mad when men hold doors open for them?
- The unseen guy who tells angry dude “don’t even look over here for help” when angry dude turns to the crowd for support. “You’re on your own, buddy,” the unseen fellow adds.
- Dude positively AGHAST that someone would call the cops on him “cause I wanted proper service. And you’re not properly servicing me.”
- Dude realizing that “servicing” sounds vaguely salacious. and adding “maybe you should get on your knees.”
- The inevitable shout of “Worldstar” near the end.
I only wish we’d been able to see the guy get escorted off the premises by police, but, hey, they have to save something for the sequel, right?
That old Married To The Sea cartoon turned out to be pretty uncannily accurate, huh?
H/T — Thanks to r/againstmensrights for bringing this lovely video to my attention.
Thank you Axecaliber for that link and to PI for the explanation!
Okay, I just finally actually watched the video and you cannot blame this one on us. His accent is
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5aOIP38mw3E/U_UqRetaazI/AAAAAAAACSU/Q_ClpYUbaoU/s1600/Clearly%2BCanadian.jpg
“don’t look over here for help!”
based crowd
@Kat
Damn skippy. Proper English words like “comestibles” should hold doors for me and toil in the bonbon mines.
Meanwhile I’ll ride the Grammar Carousel with thuggish Brad Pitt words like “ain’t” and “on fleek”, until I hit the 140-character wall.
Wierwoodtreehugger: I remember those. I miss that drink.
Can someone explain why a lot of people on youtube are equating this man’s whiny MRA rantings with Autism? Maybe I’m just super out of the loop, but is this some sort of new slur against people with Autism or something? Why are Autism and MRAness being linked?
So I was going to read the YouTube comments on this video…but then I didn’t want to go into a homicidal rage so I didn’t. The. End.
It’s an insult that’s been around for decades, and the reason why they’re saying that is because they’re comparing his meltdown to an emotional discharge of an autistic person.
Buttercup Q. Skullpants:
“…WTF is “Open the door for me, but don’t treat me bad?” Is he saying that opening doors for women should give him the right to punch them? What world does he live in where not being punched is some sort of outrageous special-snowflake demand?”
My dirty secret: I’m a cis woman who’s happy when people open doors for me when I don’t have a hand free. Also, I’m happy to open doors for anyone who looks like they’d be happy to have the help. Glad to say that even before the era of Rampaging Fedora Nice Guys, it didn’t really happen all that much. When it did, nobody on either side pissed and moaned about it for whole minutes or waited around for a medal– at least not in my memory.
Capt. Canuck there is a Grade A buffoon and that server needs a raise in a big way. :/
@T’Mar: iirc, symptoms of autism spectrum disorders include repetitive behaviors and fixation on certain things. So, a lot of people use autism (or ’tism, for short) to refer to people or behaviors that they see as obsessive. A fanboy might be called an autist, or their fan behaviors may be called autistic.
Needless to say, a lot of people can be mean sometimes.
ETA: Also, what OoglyBoggles said.
I honestly feel sorry that this guy has been lead so far astray. Probably any one of us could have ended up just as off the deep end if the particulars of our lives had taken a few sharp turns in the wrong direction.
I should state clearly that I do not excuse, condone, or tolerate this guy. He is being a crass moron and probably got himself a misdemeanor record for his conduct. And honestly, that’s really scary because he’s in the kind of headspace where having the police confront him about this will be interpreted as “the socialist big state government coming to take away my liberty” and that slight will fester and rot and lead him to more violent outbursts directed at women. So as I said, I don’t condone or support this guy in the slightest.
But I do wish I could get him some help. I bet deep down inside he wants to have a peaceful, happy life but he is letting imagined bitterness and contempt destroy his happiness and he isn’t even aware that he’s the one causing his discontent.
I lost a brother to this kind of ideology, and it just makes me sad to see other people going down the same path. I hope he gets help before he hurts himself or others.
OT: TW for violence in the news
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/18/about-20-people-injured-in-axe-attack-on-train-in-germany
The attacker was an Afghan asylum seeker.
I’m sure the Nazis will be all over this.
OT: TW for violence in the news
When I have a meltdown, it’s nothing like that. :/ It’s over frustration, abuse, or an emotional sore spot. This dude is just…. over entitled? Autistic and ADHD people don’t do that over nothing. It’s like someone accumulated a lot of fireworks, and then one of them was lit and set off everything else.
@Kat
Well fuck, this is going to make things a hell of alot worse. I don’t really have much else to offer in terms of insight. It’s another in a long, horrid string of incidents caused by high tension scenarios with all parties embracing xenophobia and extremism.
@Kat
Harrowing. At least it wasn’t a gun…
@Brits
The Guardian refers to the perp as a ‘man’. Is that normal for a 17 year old? Maybe it’s the age of consent difference, but calling a 17 year old suspect an adult (especially if they’re brown) is generally considered bullshit over here. Ya know, Brock Turner is a ‘kid’ (think of his future), but Trayvon Martin was a ‘man’ (hardened thug). Reading too much into it?
T’Mar:
I suspect it’s for the same reason that anti-abortion zealots pretend to be shocked when somebody bombs a clinic: Plausible denial. You get to disavow the specific instance, without having to question the ideology that lead to it.
@T’Mar:
Sadly, I’ve seen MRAdjacents argue that because they’ve self-diagnosed as being non-neurotypical, it is unreasonable to expect them to adhere to any social norms or behave in any way that shows empathy. They’ve noticed that decent people will be sympathetic and flexible when dealing with those whose brain wiring is different from their own, and have thought, “Great! How can I leverage that into a get-out-of-being-a-decent-person-free card?”
Just when we thought that they couldn’t sink to a new low, they somehow manage.
oh god. I cant even watch it beyond about a minute. I’m cringing so hard I might break something in me.
Some people are just messed up. o_O
oh, god. I lived in Ottawa for many years, and this guy is peak Ottawa. Met a lot of people like this, way back before MRA was (blessedly) a term I’d heard of. Though the accent of the guy who says “your getting this upset about a chicken sandwich?” makes me pure homesick.
Clearly Canadian is unreasonably tasty.
@ Kat also we can look forward to the ‘a gun for every toddler!’ types to claim that guns aren’t a problem, because look, that just leads to people running around with axes and completely missing how much worse it would have been if he’d had an assault rifle…
What is it with doors and MRAs? People around here hold doors open for each other all the time. Nobody pays attention to the gender of the door holder or door holdee. It’s just considered good manners.
I dealt a lot with people I guess were somewhere on the Autism spectrum through a former job (working at a nerd/gamestore), and 90% of them were complete assholes.
Which, to be fair, is the same percentage as “neurotypicals” who are complete assholes.
But I’ve had the “get out of jail free because you’re special” card (literally, you get documentation for it in Germany) played so many times, I now flinch every time the subject comes up.
I’ve had fully grown men throwing themselves to the floor screaming, because we didn’t sell the Pokemon videogame they wanted. (Because we didn’t sell videogames.)
I’ve had people rearrange the books sorted by alphabet to a system ordered by colour/their personal opinion of certain games (RPGs, which are 99% books) and then throw a temper tantrum like the guy in the video when I stopped them.
The problem with these people is that with the “Normies” the threat of a ban from the premises and/or the police is enough in most cases,
but it flies right over the heads of the “speshul snewflaiks”.
The people on the spectrum that weren’t assholes were really cool, though, which makes the assholes only more insufferable.
@LinuxLea
Between this and your history of bullying other Mammotheers into silence because how dare they like what you don’t like, I’m pretty sure that the insufferable asshole here is you. Go to hell.
@LinuxLea : are you sure they are autistics, and not just a
My personal experience is that nerds aren’t very likely to be autistic, but have a seriously very high odds of self-diagnosing with all sorts of mental disease.
Also, a psycholog once say me that most tabletop RPG say they aren’t social, but, as expected from people whose main activity require to be with 3-5 people for entire night, and regulary to boot, they tend to have more friends and closer friends than average. That certainly work that way for me.