Trump-loving Muslim-haters escalate their rhetoric in the wake of Nice attack

…This is OT but does anybody know why the hell Milo has a ひ by his name? I get that the “x” is a reaction to getting his checkmark taken away but what exactly does he think ひ is other than a Japanese syllable?

Marcia

as if being against Islam was a bad thing; as a feminist it’s a given I’ll be against misogynistic ideologies, duh

For myself, as a feminist and an atheist, it’s a given I’ll be against reflexive bigotry that demonises & lumps together an entire demographic, duh.

Last night a Muslim Australian woman was being attacked on Twitter as if she was responsible and/or complicit with terrorism. By that ‘logic’, all Catholics are involved in the abuse of children. All Jewish people are war-mongering Zionists. Et cetera. No.

Márcia Vasconcelos | July 15, 2016 at 7:58 pm

To be fair, most of the Nero’s tts were about Islam, he IS right that Islam is horrendous and all that. He is a hypocrite because he supports many of the atrocities the Koran teaches, though. So maybe he should shut up.

Wow. I have no words for the level of straight up bigotry (and just straight up bullshit) I just witnessed in this first paragraph.

I imagine the rest of this wall-o-text is going to be just as fun.

@ScarlettAthena
An attack happened against people in France. People died. It has nothing to do with colonies, ghettos, “islamophobia” (as if being against Islam was a bad thing; as a feminist it’s a given I’ll be against misogynistic ideologies, duh) or anything else you said.

Islamophobia is a thing, so your little scare quotes are fucking adorable. I mean, you’re a perfect example of the kind of bullshit Muslim people have to face every day simply for being Muslim and daring to be open about it. You rely on scare tactics and willing ignorance instead of educating yourself and actually learning what Islam really fucking is.

And as a feminist, it’s a given I’ll call out other feminists for being assholes. Your feminism (as lazy as it appears) isn’t an excuse for bigotry. You can be against misogyny within a religion or its practices, but you don’t have to condemn an entire religion and the people who practice it peacefully to do it.

So, Marcia, you’re being an asshole. Not just to us, but to all the Muslim feminists out there who are trying to just practice their religion in peace.

Just like any religion, Islam has the ability to be used for bad things, misogyny being one of them. But I don’t see you calling Christianity “horrendous” and all that, despite the fact that the Bible is also extremely misogynistic.

So can it, hypocrite.

Twisted ideologies or/and psychopathy can usually do, though.

So nice to see you think your feminism gives you a free pass for ableism too.

I guess you are forgetting, by the way: Europe did “open the border wide open” and let many people in without properly knowing who they are. Many immigrants in Europe live with fake IDs and receive way too light to no punishment for their crimes; a very high number of them are Muslims. It is chaotic.

Source?

It’s sad most leftists won’t bother with these problems and let the conservatives/hard right deal with it in the worst ways possible. You see, some problems affect BOTH the left and the right, they are affecting everyone and will keep affecting us even more if we don’t at least start talking about it, offer solutions and criticizing it harsher. We don’t have to be black and white with everything.

“Everyone’s wrong but me! Obviously, I know exactly what everyone’s doing wrong, and I have lots of complaints! No solutions though, beyond being racist and condemning an entire group of people for their beliefs, because they’re all misogynists! I totally know that!”

What happened needs solution. It will keep happening, unfortunately, but we can try to make it more difficult for it to happen. The victims deserve respect. It’s not the time to blame innocent people for it, blame it on past mistakes or defend those who weren’t the direct victims.
Both the right and the left are doing it wrong. It’s a general problem.

Says the person who just barfed out a load of Islamophobia into our laps.

Do you know how many Muslim people also died in that attack, Marcia? Because last I heard, it was quite a few.

So before you go rampaging off to condemn an entire religion because you think you know best, mayhaps you should take a look at who the victims actually fucking are.

Because a lot of them are Muslim. The Daesh are targeting other Muslims with their attacks. They attack places like Nice, they cause terror attacks here in the States, and you know what people like you do?

You play right into their fucking hands. You spout ignorant hatred, and you chase victims, actual fucking victims of a group who uses a hateful version of a peaceful ideology, right into their hands, so they can hurt, control, and terrorize them.

Fuck off. I’m not Muslim, but I won’t stand for this blind hatred and your pathetic excuses for your ignorance.

@Mels
Maybe, if you squint real hard, ひ kinda looks like a check mark? I’d scrounge around for a better, linguistic explanation, but I get the feeling I’d be putting more thought into it than he did

Oh fuck, a White Feminist in the wild.

Look, religions are old. There’re not perfect guides to living in the modern world. Most people who practice them know that. Feminist Muslims, and yes that even includes vieled women who cover for numerous and often personal reasons, exist. You really need to find them and listen to them.

Also, why the fuck are you defending conservatism/the American right? That ideology has wreaked havoc on the lives of women, lgbt+ people, poor people, disabled folks, and people of color in this country? If it was smaller and had little political power, we would recognize it as a hate group.

@PI *standing ovation*

@Marcia I have family members who are Muslim AND feminist. Please go away.

@Handsome Jack
As nice as the idea of all of us having been women at some point is, I’m think the theory at the moment is that brain sex is a multifaceted process that does not start with a female template.

Am I the only one who gets annoyed when porn is held up against the conservatives as some kind of gotcha? I don’t care what porn people enjoy as long as everyone is consenting. I know there’s often a lot of hypocrisy, especially the people who go on about the evils of porn and are heavily into it themselves, but honestly it doesn’t matter whether they’re hypocrites or not. The harm they do in trying to control others’ sex lives is the same regardless of what they do in private, and we shouldn’t shame them for their kinks any more than they should shame us.

Sorry, steven, this isn’t directed at you specifically. You’re not the only one to bring it up here.

I’d like to say that I rather prefer the racist scumbags peddling their bullshit in the open, because the usual dogwhistling and sealioning is annoying as heck.

It’s not that porn preferences that are being mocked. It’s the hypocrisy. If they’re going to pretend to be too righteous for something, they deserve to be mocked for engaging in it themselves.

@vaiyt:
I agree. I think they do it at least partially because it annoys us. In my experience when toxic people talk politics, they do it to score points and irritate their opposition, rather than to achieve anything.

It’s not that porn preferences that are being mocked. It’s the hypocrisy. If they’re going to pretend to be too righteous for something, they deserve to be mocked for engaging in it themselves.

Er, TMI warning, but I tend to indulge in some noncon erotica from time to time. I fucking despise rape and all forms of disregard for consent, and I endeavor to combat rape culture as much as I can. But in fiction, sometimes I find it terrifying but thrilling, like watching a slasher flick. (And yeah, I’m aware of how sexualized nonconsent can contribute to rape culture. My indulgence is not unproblematic.)

If someone tried to go “oh you say you’re against rape, but just look at this erotica you read! Are you suuure you hate rape?” I’d be pissed as hell. Fiction and reality aren’t the same thing.

I’m muslim and I think this thread and this website are ….. moronic.