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WARNING: Lady Ghostbusters might actually be funny

A specter haunts the Internet’s angry men. The specter that the new Ghostbusters movie with all the ladies in it might actually be, you know, good.

Angry dudes have been throwing Internet hissy fits over the new lady-fied Ghostbusters since they first learned of its lady-fied nature early last year; indeed, the fellas at the famously lady-hating site Return of Kings started boycotting the film back in March, even though there was no film yet to boycott.

From RoK to Reddit to YouTube, the Internet’s angriest men agreed that the film was going to be the worst thing to hit men since the ladies got the right to vote, or something.

Now, with the film hitting theaters in the US this Friday, and already playing in the UK and Ireland, the first reviews are coming out.

And so far they’re not bad. The film boasts a 76% rating on Rotten Tomatoes at the moment, and some of the reviews are actually pretty enthusiastic, with more than a few critics suggesting that the Ghostbusting ladies are the best part of the film.

In the Daily Beast, Jen Yamato derided the film’s “lulls in pacing” and “choppy editing,” before hailing the gals at the film’s center:

[W]ith a crackling sense of purpose and a surplus of reverence for their predecessors, new Ghostbusters Wiig, McCarthy, McKinnon, and Jones plant their own flag on a beloved sci-fi comedy franchise.

For haters of the Lady Ghostbusters, it’s a nightmare, sweetie, as Patsy from AbFab would say, though I’m pretty sure the anti-Lady-Ghostbusters crowd wouldn’t find her funny either.

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On Reddit, naturally, there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth. In Kotaku in Action, Reddit’s main hangout for GamerGate true believers, one of he highest-rated comments in the Ghostbusters 2016 Review Megathread blasts those giving the film good reviews as “cucks for Sony.” Others offered similar explanations.

Sugreev2001 55 points 1 day ago I knew this was going to be given a higher score than expected, even if it was really a shit movie. Most movie critics these days are ardent SJW's with fascist tendencies. These are not normal people, and they've gone delusional with the minuscule amount of power given to them by their like-minded crybully readers.

One commenter accused the critics who liked the film of the apparently unpardonable sin of being … writers.

writers

 

Over in the Ghostbusters subreddit — because of course there is a Ghostbusters subreddit, and of course it’s full of Lady-Ghsotbuster haters — some of the regulars are trying their best to keep the dream alive, the dream in question being the dream that Lady Ghostbusters will still turn out to really suck, positive reviews be damned!

So, Pro-reboot fans are claiming the movie a thundering success 5 days before it's US release? What ever happened to not pre-judging? (self.ghostbusters) submitted 5 hours ago by airbrushedvan Or is that just for people who didn't like the trailer? Honestly, there is no way to trust most reviews as so many are agenda driven. Vanity Fair, EW and Varity didn't love it. Some others did. Many say it's pretty meh. I'll wait and see how the Box office does and how the RT and IMDB scores rate AFTER the film has released. Stay zuul everyone.

One irate fellow, insisting he wasn’t rooting for the film to fail, attacked Sony for allegedly throwing a tantrum.

I never wanted the film to be “garbage”, I wanted to have a movie I could enjoy watching. But the moment Sony, Feig, and everyone else involved decided that personal attacks against the public was how they wanted to promote this film, then I simply can’t support it. It could literally be a better film than the original (which it’s not) and I still would not watch it because of the horrible taste left by the filmmaking team’s behavior.

I am not a simpleton who is pursuaded by “like this movie or you’re a misogynist hater”, and since that is the tact they choose, I have to opt out entirely on principle. I do not want this to become a recurring trend with future entertainment endeavors.

I will not be spending a dime on anything related to Ghostbusters 2016. No toys, no movie tickets, no Blu Rays, and no Lego or Lego Dimensions sets. I do not endorse childish tantrums by big studios.

So take that, Sony! This total non-tantrum-haver is taking his Legos (which include no Lady Ghostbusters sets) and going home.

The culture war is weird, man.

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Film Runner
Film Runner
5 years ago

I saw this movie earlier (it opened today in the UK) and it’s pretty good, with Kate McKinnon being absolutely fucking wonderful. I’d definitely recommend seeing it.

JoeB
JoeB
5 years ago

A reboot of an old franchise is flawed but okay. SHOCKER!

personalpest
personalpest
5 years ago

On a related note: According to vulture.com, “Critics Are Split on the Ghostbusters Reboot’s Laughs, Story, Originality”.

WickedWitchOfWhatever
WickedWitchOfWhatever
5 years ago

I love how Sugreev2001 decides that movie reviewers are not “normal people” due to their extremist views and the praise of a small number of pro-fascist like-minded readers going to their heads.

Huggbees
Huggbees
5 years ago

I love it when MRAs throw a temper tantrum. You know you got them good when all they got is sputtering insults.

Loquora
Loquora
5 years ago

I saw this earlier:
http://www.avclub.com/article/anti-ghostbusters-revolution-will-not-be-upvoted-239374

The internet is indeed a strange place.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

The kids and I are seeing it Friday. The kids love Ghostbusters and they think it is so cool that the reboot has a female cast and Thor. We are going to have a ball.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

So… After Mad Max winning approximately all the Oscars and Star Wars making approximately all the money, this makes their strikes’ third strike. Can they go home how?

sevenofmine
sevenofmine
5 years ago

“Whatever happened to not pre-judging?!” wails the man-child who judged the movie to be terrible without having seen it.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Re-Busters can’t be getting good reviews because people actually like the movie! No, it must be because they’re all shilled beta cucks who are afraid of being called misogynists, which I’m not!

Everyone knows writers aren’t people (like women and LGBT people and PoC)! They’re just paid-off mouthpieces with no thoughts or likes/dislikes of their own (unless they’re agreeing with me), and obviously aren’t writing a critique of a movie because they like movies or anything! [/sarcasm]

EDIT: Also, I’m just going to leave this here:
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Look at those little girl’s faces. Look how excited they are and how in love they are with meeting a woman they look up to.

Those faces are totally worth all the manbaby whining. Those girls are so happy, and that’s all that matters to me right now.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

Don’t they know SJW with fascist tendencies is a contradiction? Reminds me of that stupid ‘Liberal Fascist’ book they kept crowing about.
I would have loved this when I was little. Thank you Sony for little girl role models.

Pretty Pink Punani Princess
Pretty Pink Punani Princess
5 years ago

Oh boy.

For so much stink and horrible expediencies they had and hope they had for this movie to bomb…. for it to be good……actually GOOD( at least beyond their abysmal expectations), it must be a real low blow.

Too bad.

brian
brian
5 years ago

is “hissy fit” a gendered insult? I’m assuming it derives from “hysterical”?

JoeB
JoeB
5 years ago

Don’t they know SJW with fascist tendencies is a contradiction? Reminds me of that stupid ‘Liberal Fascist’ book they kept crowing about.

Yeah, you can have left-wing authoritarianism, but it’s not called fascism that’s a super nationalist center to right brand authoritarianism.

Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
5 years ago

https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/752388697346088960
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* serious note why do they think that girls are skilled enough to routinely identify with male heroes, but that little boys couldn’t possibly be up to the task of identifying with women.

They really sell boys short and they can’t seem to tell that they are doing it.

lkeke35
lkeke35
5 years ago

Yeah, I hated the first trailer because of the depiction of the one black character in it, and the fact that she wasn’t a scientist was a huge let down for me. I’m also not a Jones fan at all, although I admire what she’s trying to accomplish. Her humor is just too broad and loud for me to get into.

I am a huge McCarthy fan tho’, who has liked whatever she’s in, and the new trailers look much much funnier. My absolute favorite already is Kate McKinnon, tho’. She looks hilarious and I want to see it just for her.

I mean I probably won’t see Ghostbusters, not because I think it’s a bad film, but because I’m on a budget, and already have two movies I planned to watch: Star Trek Beyond, which is written by Simon Pegg and I’m a huge fan of his writing, and then Suicide Squad (because Will Smith needs no reason). Also I really like Harley Quinn and Robbie’s version of her looks like fun. I’m all about the fun this summer.

As for the Manbabies Are they crying again? Must be a day ending in a Y.

Ichthyic
Ichthyic
5 years ago

@Loquora:

The internet is indeed a strange place.

Not sure, but if you are actually boggled at the title:

“The anti-Ghostbusters revolution will not be upvoted”

It’s referring to this, which I would bet a lot of younger people probably never heard of, and is still worth listening to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw

lkeke35
lkeke35
5 years ago

Paradoxical:
Awww! Those girls faces are so adorable. This movie is definitely for the next generation of kids, not for an aging group of whineypants who already had the special screen times, and apparently want to keep on having all of them forever, regardless of whether or not their patronage of a movie is relevant.

I have to admit, I feel a little like those girls about this movie, despite the fact that I was disappointed by the first trailer. There’s a part of me that wishes I was ten or eleven again, just so I could have this moment for real. I started geekfangirling the moment I heard there was gonna be an all women reboot.

Chris
5 years ago

I’m going to be so happy to see this if it turns out good. I’ve honestly been scared that it would be as bad as “Batman vs. Superman” and then, when the positive reviews rolled in, I gained a new sense of hope that, once again, maybe, just maybe, MRA hopes will again be crushed. After all, I need some new male tears to power my male tear powered time machine.

Bina
5 years ago

“These are not normal people, and they’ve gone delusional with the minuscule amount of power given to them by their like-minded crybully readers.”

Says someone who bawls because his sakwed Ghostbusters got made into a bunch of (whine, sniffle) GIRLS. And who seriously thinks his pouty-stompy disapproval alone ought to have been enough to have stopped that from happening.

Meanwhile, Bill Murray is in the mix, and Dan Aykroyd loves the concept. So that means that at least half the OGs are on board.

Oh, the salty, SALTY man-tears, they taste so sweet!

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

@Brian
It seems that, regardless of whether it comes from hissing or hysterics, it’s pretty damn sexist. All of the possible origins seem to point towards a female slant, including hissing (catty women).

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=24134

Ichthyic
Ichthyic
5 years ago

I’m going to be so happy to see this if it turns out good. I’ve honestly been scared that it would be as bad as “Batman vs. Superman”

I watched BvS twice… just to make sure it was as bad as I thought it was the first time I saw it.

and it was.

Ichthyic
Ichthyic
5 years ago

Oh, the salty, SALTY man-tears, they taste so sweet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJBsnG8lc1Y

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

I continue to be amused when the angry internet men (re)discover that the rest of reality doesn’t agree with them.

Bina
5 years ago

@Ichtyic:

OMG, that moth on Ronaldo’s face. I’m dyyyyyin’.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

How privileged do you have to be to think that it’s fascism to speak in favor of diversity in movies?

For fuck’s sake. If the movie doesn’t interest you, don’t see it. No one cares!

numerobis
numerobis
5 years ago

The posited Germanic origin of hissy might not be misogynistic. Or it might be, just via another language. Definitely it has misogynist undertones in modern usage.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I wonder if my mom has seen that picture. She’s scared of moths for some reason.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@joeb

Yep, but this isn’t what they mean. Left wing authoritarianism is Stalinism or Maoism. Their ‘left wing’ really means Liberals. It is the MRAs and their insidious fanboys who like to wave the flag and support Trump and the alt (now mainstream) Right, with their Pepes and #fashthenation hashtag bullshit. They love to fling shit, but most of it comes right back in their faces.

iknklast
iknklast
5 years ago

The one that really gets me is that writer’s being writers are going to give it a good rating because they can indulge their passion for language. In my experience, writers really get going with the poetry when they are trashing something. There are so many enjoyable and interesting ways of saying something is terrible, if someone is just indulging their passion for language, they might be tempted to get into full flame out on trashing the movie. Critics do it all the time.

Karl
Karl
5 years ago

When I first saw the move (as a teenager), I remember being really uncomfortable with Bill Murray’s character. He was obnoxious and creepy, and possibly a potential rapist. (Besides his opening scene where he tried to use fraud to seduce a student, wasn’t there a “joke” in there about the sedatives he carried around with him being used on his dates?)

I identified more with the characters played by Aykroyd and Ramis, and how they were content to let Murray’s character take the spotlight while they stayed (mostly) in the background. They didn’t care about the fame – they just cared that they saved the city. They were the real heroes of the film.

It occurred to me today that the man-babies that are whinging on about the reboot are upset because they have nobody in the movie to identify with. In the reboot there are no asshole date-rapists. There are no shitheads who use fraud to try to coerce students into sex.

This, I think, is what the MRAs find most offensive about the remake: there is nobody for them to emulate.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

So, this point was brought up with Michael Bay’s TMNT movies by Nostalgia Critic, but I’m going to apply the same logic here:

No one retconned your childhood, you gigantic manchildren. Your precious Ghostbusters still exists as it was, an all-boy’s club.

Your childhood still exists, and even if someone DID retcon your childhood, you wouldn’t fucking remember it anyways, because it would be retconned.

And now we have a reboot for those of us who just so happen to be women. It’s just another version for those of us who want it. The original still exists and you can go and enjoy it at any time you want to.

It’s not taking away anything from your childhood.

So STFU.

JSun
JSun
5 years ago

I probably won’t go see this one because the black woman in the first trailer felt like the writers made her character using a book titled “stereotypical black woman things as written by a white man” and *only* used that as their source material.

But I do hope it turns out really well just to crush these MRAs a little more.

C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
5 years ago

76% positive is excellent for a blockbuster like this.
Hell, I was just hoping it would be better than Ghostbusters 2.

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
5 years ago

Huh. I’m not usually much of a movie person, and I actually wasn’t all that fond of the original Ghostbusters (barring some Bill Murray moments). I think I’ll go see this one, though.

Look at those little girl’s faces. Look how excited they are and how in love they are with meeting a woman they look up to.

Those faces are totally worth all the manbaby whining. Those girls are so happy, and that’s all that matters to me right now.

That picture really picked up my day. ^_^

(((Her Grace Phryne))): Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite
(((Her Grace Phryne))): Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite
5 years ago

Thank you for the picture. That was amazing. 🙂 I’m not sure if we’ll go see it, but I’m interested.

Col
Col
5 years ago

I’ll be going to see Ghostbusters & taking my twins sons as well.
What I’ve found to be true is if MRA’s are rubbishing something, then it must be really ,really good.

I remember reading their rubbishing of Mad Max, especially Paul Elam saying he doesn’t like female leads, before that movie came out.

I wasn’t an actual Mad Max fan despite being Australian…but once AVFM starting rubbishing it, I couldn’t get to the theatre quick enough & made it a night out with heaps of friends…what a great movie it turned out to be.

So off to Ghostbusters I’ll go, should be great! Thanks for the movie tip MRA’s..lol

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
5 years ago

I hate to be the one to break it to all the whinging manbabies out there, but your childhood is either safe from ruination, or already irretrievably ruined. Your childhood is OVER, and it’s high time you owned up to that very obvious fact.

Also I thought “hissy” was from “histrionic”, from the Latin for “actor”. So, not sexist, just…. hammy.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

When I first saw the move (as a teenager), I remember being really uncomfortable with Bill Murray’s character. He was obnoxious and creepy, and possibly a potential rapist. (Besides his opening scene where he tried to use fraud to seduce a student, wasn’t there a “joke” in there about the sedatives he carried around with him being used on his dates?)

I identified more with the characters played by Aykroyd and Ramis, and how they were content to let Murray’s character take the spotlight while they stayed (mostly) in the background. They didn’t care about the fame – they just cared that they saved the city. They were the real heroes of the film.

Seriously. Ray and Egon are the real experts. Venkman gets them kicked out of the university with his blatantly unprofessional practice, leading to their world-shaking research being confiscated (and, incidentally, misses a student with promising psychic potential who was right under his nose.) He goes on to aggravate Walter Peck, who had no relevant jurisdiction and could have been easily dealt with legally long before he reached the point of actively sabotaging their facilities. Ultimately, Venkman’s just a load they carry around who provides nothing in return but sarcasm.

Kimstu
Kimstu
5 years ago

But the moment Sony, Feig, and everyone else involved decided that personal attacks against the public was how they wanted to promote this film

“Personal attacks against the public”? That doesn’t even mean anything. The whole point about “the public” is that it’s not a person, it’s an aggregate of many people, so it’s not subject to personal attacks.

Snowberry
Snowberry
5 years ago

“Personal attacks against the public”? That doesn’t even mean anything.

I understood it well enough, given the context. Basically they’re accusing the makers of the film of shaming the general public for being too sexist to watch their film… in hopes that it will somehow convince more people to watch it. People like them take that kind of thing as a personal attack, so they meant that phrase in the sense of “an attack directed at the general public which some people would take personally”.

Though even if you grant that this is would be a legitimate turn of phrase (it probably isn’t), its use under these circumstances would be kind of stupid for other reasons.

Pseudonym
Pseudonym
5 years ago

I still believe that it would have been better to do a sequel (Ghostbusters: The Next Generation) rather than a reboot. This movie has a dream cast, so why wouldn’t you want to do something a bit more original with them?

Still, I’m glad it’s doing well. A good reboot is better than all the crappy reboots that Hollywood seems to make these days.

Bina
5 years ago

Relevant:

http://nerdist.com/the-new-ghostbusters-doesnt-ruin-your-childhood-review/

Overall, I enjoyed watching the movie and I think the main takeaway is that it’s completely inoffensive, which may seem like damning with faint praise, but when so much vitriol has been littering message boards and comment threads for over a year, the fact that it’s not only not that bad but it’s perfectly fine is a victory in and of itself. I’d love to see what Feig’s director’s cut looked like, but the film we have now is nothing at all to be upset about. In fact, I’d wager anybody who rips the movie apart went in ready to hate it.

Can’t wait to hear what the hate-watchers will be saying, assuming they got over themselves long enough to stand in line for a ticket.

davidknewton
5 years ago

Did they end up moving away from that lame “shouty streetwise black woman” stereotype? I haven’t been too keen on what I saw in the trailers, but I’m glad to hear it’s being considered generally okay 🙂

Chris
5 years ago

Seriously. Ray and Egon are the real experts. Venkman gets them kicked out of the university with his blatantly unprofessional practice, leading to their world-shaking research being confiscated (and, incidentally, misses a student with promising psychic potential who was right under his nose.) He goes on to aggravate Walter Peck, who had no relevant jurisdiction and could have been easily dealt with legally long before he reached the point of actively sabotaging their facilities. Ultimately, Venkman’s just a load they carry around who provides nothing in return but sarcasm.

Am I the only one who loved Winston the most as a kid? Winston was your every-person, the one with no real connection to the paranormal but just needed a job and finds himself caught up in the surreal world of the other other three. As a result, I see him as being a surrogate for the viewer, voicing the skepticism any of us would have if we suddenly found ourselves in a world with the paranormal.

One of the rumors I heard regarding Ghostbusters 3 was that one of the conditions from Murray, Akroyd, and Ramis was that Ernie Hudson had to be given equal billing with them if Ghostbusters 3 got off the ground. If it’s true, I love them for it for realizing how crucial Winston was to the team and how different the films would have been without him.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

Haven’t seen the original, so I likely won’t see this. Still, I hope it makes all the money. In fact I kinda hope it’s mediocre and bland, yet makes all the money anyway. Just to give these guys something more to meltdown over

I watched BvS twice… just to make sure it was as bad as I thought it was the first time I saw it.

and it was

I’m sorry for the loss of your 5 hours ; _ ;

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
5 years ago

Watched the original and loved it. But I am able to distinguish myself from my objects. I really have no idea how someone could connect themselves to goods to the point where the goods superimpose themselves on the individual. I don’t really have much desire for things, maybe it’s just my background but I don’t really see the appeal of nostalgia.

It’s the one thing that I truly cannot comprehend. Higher level maths and physics and language, that has rules that over time can be learned. Nostalgia just makes none of that to me.

Like I remember being raised on media, on things like Cartoon Network and Nick so it’s the same shows they would have watched, and seen the same advertisements as well, but I don’t recall “nostalgia” when I remember those things.

abars01
abars01
5 years ago

Most movie critics these days are ardent SJW’s with fascist tendencies. These are not normal people, and they’ve gone delusional with the miniscule amount of power given to them by their like-minded crybully readers.

Psychological projection, much?

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

Oh, yeah, Winston’s great. Where Ray and Egon have the prior expertise, and Venkman’s their snarky friend, Winston’s the one who gets to come in and learn and grow and do protagonist-y things. In the video game sequel, he’s gone on to earn his PhD and is generally, you know, thriving.

Name is Futile
Name is Futile
5 years ago

Boycotting a movie and manipulating it’s general rating trully seems like the best way to protect freedom of speech from the evil and oppressive minds of people who don’t think sexswaps make a movie obligatorily bad.

Also, even if this was directed mainly to little girls (honestly, I don’t know who’s exactly the target audience, I gotta see the movie first), I dont see what’s the problem with it. Everyone seems to get offended when a large amount of money is invested in something mainly directed to women, but michael bay’s adaptation are a-ok.

Just the usual “Men are the default” crap I suppose.

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