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Open Thread for Non-Personal Stuff, July 2016 Rabbit Squad Edition

This can't be good.
This can’t be good.

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An Open Thread for Non-Personal stuff! No MRAs. no trolls, etc. (The Open Thread for Personal Stuff is here.)

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dslucia
dslucia
8 years ago

Everybody knows that if a woman can’t say no to sex, then there’s no more rape! Problem solved! /s

That bit about denying men sex being “capricious and cruel and should not be the social norm” very nearly got a full belly laugh out of me. Like, holy damn, how bitter can you be?

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

They also don’t get how basic common sense works. Most women are slutty but only with a small minority of men. That would make most men virgins until they get married and become a beta provider. That’s not true in any study I’ve every seen.

Sadly, it makes sense when you understand that when they say “women” here, they mean HB8+. An HB7 or lower isn’t even worth discussing.

littleknown
littleknown
8 years ago

Wut. I guess he’s saying that the mothers should be stuck with all the diaper changing, getting up in the middle of the night, dealing with the tantrums etc. Then despite being the primary caretaker for the first seven years of life, she should have custody taken because – reasons? Why is the father presumed to be the better parent? He doesn’t even lay out a case for why that would be.

Yeah, that was one of the most “apropos of nothing” conclusions that I’ve seen in a while. “If we assume women are the best caretakers in the first seven years, then it follows that men are the best over the next seven years.”

?!?!?!?

Right, the woman does all the hard work, and then the toxic asshole conveniently gets custody once they don’t require constant supervision? And after he thoroughly screws them up during puberty, some of them get sent back to mom? Presumably the girls, so he doesn’t have to be jealous of their boyfriends as they enter their “prime reproductive years”?

(Shudder.)

dustwolves
dustwolves
8 years ago

Quick question: is manboobz.tumblr.com legit or is it just someone who nicked the name? It’s only links to the posts here, but I can’t find any mention of a WHTM tumblr here, so I’m guessing not.

Bina
Bina
8 years ago

stretching their minds, morals, and everything else between their legs

It’s the “everything else” that gets me. Do they seriously believe that we, like they, think and are ruled by what’s between our legs? OYYYYYYY.

Know all ye men and women present and accounted for or who may later come upon these words that men are not happy with the prevailing laws and social conditions.

“…so we’ll cwy, and we’ll scweam, and we’ll get weally angwy!”

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

This may be an appropriate place to put this:

Something about this site – and only this site – makes strings of animated .gifs lag my browser and occasionally crash it. This is why I’m not around much anymore: the recent tendency for people to react to something with 3 to 10 animated .gifs makes the site literally unusable.

This wasn’t a problem, or even something that I noticed, before the site regulars decided that reacting with a string of .gifs was something they wanted to do. It comes in without any warning and there’s no way to avoid the .gifs – even trying to just quickly scroll past them lags and sometimes crashes my browser.

I just thought I’d put that out there, that maybe people might want to think a little bit before they decide to dump every .gif in their reaction folder into a thread.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
8 years ago

POM: thanks for the heads up. Are still images okay?

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@PoM
This might help. http://www.addictivetips.com/web/stop-animated-gifs-from-autoplaying-in-your-browser/
You also might want to run a scan if you can to make sure you don’t have any annoying scripts running on your machine.

I’ll try not to post animated gifs. I don’t do it a lot; usually I stick to still images.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
8 years ago

@wwth

A few comments,
1) playing cock roulette sounds vile, maybe he means that one might have a sexually transmitted disease? A life threatening one like HIV? Condoms would reduce this risk, although these MRA blokes think it’s a cruel misandry to wear one, regardless of their sexual health.
2) I don’t think you should say ‘most women are slutty’ sure, a lot are but not most. There are many reasons for that including religion of course, being in a monogamous relationship or asexuality. Asexuals do actually exist, I’m one.
3) This idea of women withholding sex from men as punishment is a vile idea which has its roots in the fundie ‘Christian’ cult, Quiverfull. They also see marriage as a licence to rape, (advocated by God himself for the benefit of teh menz) and do not consider spousal rape to be a crime. A lot of this MRA stuff comes straight out of the Bill Gothard playbook. To them, withholding sex is a greater sin than adultery. They call it “sexual immorality”. Yes, really. And condoms, no again. It’s a waste of their divine seed.
Bill Gothard also advocates punishing your wife by not letting her have money, or ‘treats’ like new clothes or days out. Taken to extreme, it’s not unknown for women in these cults to have nothing to eat or not be allowed to wear shoes, until they submit to their wifely duty.
On child raising, well, they love their brutal punishments, these men should not be allowed to raise kids of any age.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

What? I was quoting from the link Sunnysombrara posted.

EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

That was magnificent, WWTH. A fantastic sporking.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@PoM
That’s definitely me. Sorry. I actually had the same situation, and then it randomly cleared up somehow. Hopefully the same thing happens on your end, and, in the meantime, I’ll endeavour to keep my giffing under control

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
8 years ago

@wwth

Sorry I wasn’t telling you off. I was just commenting on the MRA stuff you quoted but didn’t read the original post by Sunnysombrero first. My mistake.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

@kupo

You are the best ever.

@sunny

Static .gifs are not a problem unless there are 10 billion. However, kupo just pointed me at a page that pointed me at an add-on for Firefox that halts the animated .gifs for me. So maybe the problem is resolved (for me at least, can’t speak for anyone else).

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@PoM
No problem. About 90% of being a software engineer is knowing what to Google. 🙂

Bryce
Bryce
8 years ago

As usual MGTOWs don’t know how vaginas work. They don’t get a little bigger with each partner. They bounce back! They also don’t get how basic common sense works. Most women are slutty but only with a small minority of men. That would make most men virgins until they get married and become a beta provider. That’s not true in any study I’ve every seen. That would also mean that the small minority who is getting laid would have an absurd number of partners. I’m not sure it would even be physically possible. This particular MGTOW and Incel argument always cracks me up.

Although it’s nothing like the ridiculous “80/20 rule”, there’s data that indicates women have a few more sexual partners on average than men and find a narrower range of men attractive than men do women, at least in terms of appearance. That often cited OkCupid study, and the lower percentage of disabled men in relationships in comparison to disabled women as examples.

Not sure how merely being pickier is meant to be an indictment on women though.

Bryce
Bryce
8 years ago

*a couple more partners.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

No problem. About 90% of being a software engineer is knowing what to Google.

LOL! That’s about 90% of being a GIS wizard, too (the other 10% is knowing where to look in the files for the needed data).

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

MGTOW think the women who aren’t interested in them will become that way ONE DAY and when that day comes, they think they’ll get to reject those women as punishment for not having seen fit to be interested in them sooner. That is hysterical!

epitome of incomprehensibility

The Toronto Pride Parade happened today! Here’s a news article about it, with some pictures: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pride-parade-toronto-1.3662823

There was a sit-in by the Black Lives Matter group that stalled things for a few minutes. They were part of the parade, not an interruption – it’s just that they stopped moving to call attention to the BLM movement and how queer and trans people of colour were underrepresented in Pride. It got resolved calmly, but the right-wing outlets are making it out to be a big fight (surprise, surprise).

Oh yeah, and Justin Trudeau was the first current prime minister to march in it! Admittedly, this isn’t a thing that takes a lot of effort, but it’s pretty exciting historically, especially if you consider that before 1969, gay sex (and by extension, being gay openly) was illegal.

Even Pierre Trudeau (Justin’s father, by the way), who proposed the amendments to the Criminal Code that would decriminalize being gay, also sorta lumped queer people in with pedophiles when he said this in 1967: “Take this thing on homosexuality. I think the view we take here is that there’s no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation. I think that what’s done in private between adults doesn’t concern the Criminal Code. When it becomes public this is a different matter, or when it relates to minors this is a different matter.”

So yeah… since then, progress! Here’s a timeline of gay rights in Canada: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/timeline-same-sex-rights-in-canada-1.1147516 (ETA: It’s a little silly that they call it “same-sex rights”, but anyway.)

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
8 years ago

Donald Trump sounds an awful lot like a manospherian (albeit tongue-in-cheek) during this 2009 roast of Joan Rivers.

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
8 years ago

Delurking to say:

Australian election: is it wrong of me to hope for a result that will result in a new Chuck Tingle story, along the lines of ‘Pounded in the (nonbinding) plebiscite by my hung parliament’?

And have you seen his wonderful follow up to the Brexit story?

Mark reads it here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIwJuN59wX8&feature=youtu.be&a=

Skip to about 21:00 to hear a beautiful takedown of Voxman.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

I’ll admit I’m very prone to anthropomorphism but this study seem to back me up.

It’s really interesting, but in summary:

Pigs’ grunts aren’t just random; they’re commenting on their environment.

Boy pigs get depressed more easily than girl pigs.

Lady pigs seem to choose partners based on personality.

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/3/6/160178

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
8 years ago

Basically it’s a reversal of what they consider to be male and female ideals, where more sexual partners a man has *increases* his value, a woman having more sexual partners *decreases* her value. As if sex is a finite resource running out. Why are they are obsessed with sexual purity? Is it better for a man to have sex with a frightened, tearful, teenage virgin, or a woman who is experienced enough to gain mutual enjoyment? I guess this boils down to Power. Like rape and paedophilia, mutual enjoyment is not their goal. Like the zealots who believe the female orgasm is from the Devil. If a woman is in control of her own sexuality, he is emasculated.