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Burn de coal, pay de toll: Vox Day mocks white woman allegedly killed by black boyfriend

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In case you had forgotten that Vox Day, fantasy author and “SJW’-hater, was a gigantic freaking racist, here’s a little reminder.

On his Alpha Game blog earlier this week, Day — real name Theodore Beale — offered his thoughts on the alleged murder of a Maryland woman by her boyfriend. The dead woman was white, and her boyfriend, now charged with murder, is black, leading Day to conclude, in his words:

Burn de coal, pay de toll

“Coalburner” is incredibly racist slang for a white woman who dates black men. It’s a synonym for “mudshark,” another bit of incredibly racist slang that Vox manages to work into his brief post, once in the title and a second time in this lovely paragraph:

I find it interesting that increasingly, in the case of these mudshark murders, the media is beginning to avoid showing pictures of the black murderer with the white victim. I suppose it puts a rather negative capstone on all those happy multiracial commercials they are showing these days.

Huh. White men kill white women all the time, but no one ever suggests that this is somehow a “negative capstone on all those happy white commercials” that have been on television from the start.

Naturally, Vox’s commenters offered thoughtful analyses of their own. A sampling:

Laguna Beach Fogey said... hahaha stupid bitch June 28, 2016 at 8:29 PM Deaths Head said... Does this mean he passed her shit test or that he failed it? She wanted drama, she got it, so was she finally happy? I wonder, did she finally find that elusive "suitable man" women keep looking for? As a white male, should I confess to this or just embrace my white guilt for not being a real man? So many questions...... June 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM

Just another day in the life of Vox Day, defender of civilization against the barbarians.

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Alais
4 years ago

Huh. White men kill white women all the time, but no one ever suggests that this is somehow a “negative capstone on all those happy white commercials” that have been on television from the start.

Spot on. They’re so blind to their own privilege. They don’t even realize that people will almost never judge their actions based on their race. The only time that they’ll even risk having their race brought up is if they commit a crime against someone of another race. Otherwise, everything that they do will solely be a reflection on who they are as people. Their own actions will never be seen to reflect on the white race as a whole. In contrast, every bad thing that black people ever do, regardless of who they do it to, and every failure of every individual black person will be seen to reflect negatively on all other black people.

And of course a woman died, and they’re gleefully celebrating her murder. These are the men who say that they want to defend white women? As a white woman, I have to strongly reject that offer.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

Fuck you, Vox.

Huh. White men kill white women all the time, but no one ever suggests that this is somehow a “negative capstone on all those happy white commercials” that have been on television from the start.

Spot on. They’re so blind to their own privilege. They don’t even realize that people will almost never judge their actions based on their race.

Also true.

I mean, think of all the serial killers you can, think of the spree killers and mass shooters. All, if not a huge majority of them, are white men, at least the US-centric ones.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

I will be so happy when Vox Day finally feels like he’s gotten enough attention for a lifetime.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
4 years ago

Wow, VD seems scraped his all the way through the bottom of the barrel, right through the barrel underneath that barrel and he’s working on scraping the floor.

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
4 years ago

@Handsome – there are black serial killers, at about the same rate per capita as white. Call it one in eight.

Of course they’re far more likely to be pursued, caught, and prosecuted, because they overwhelmingly kill white women.

Which brings up the question, is there a racist term for white men who date “outside their race”? I guess race traitor, but are they scourged with any other insulting terms, or are the insults largely reserved for women?

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

TW for violence and child abuse

In northern MN this past week, a man who was out on parole for child porn killed his girlfriend, burned her home down, and kidnapped her 5 year old daughter. Luckily the child was found alive. The perpetrator is white. As are, I believe the victims. It’s northern Minnesota so, play the odds.

What does race have to do with any of this? This meaning murder and domestic violence.

Steampunked
Steampunked
4 years ago

Race this to do with it – it’s a great scapegoat to draw attention away from toxic masculinity.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Alais

They don’t even realize that people will almost never judge their actions based on their race

Ya know…
There’s this game (I say ‘game’) black people play. I’m sure other minority groups do it too. It’s called ‘don’t be black’. Basically, we watch local news, and anytime a stupid and/or volent crime is committed, we mutter to ourselves ‘don’t be black’, cos we know, if so, assholes like this will write shit like this. White people don’t generally play the same ‘game’, they don’t have to. And it’s not cos they’re less stupid, less violent, or less criminal

@WWTH
Damn

Alais
4 years ago

@Iseult,

Which brings up the question, is there a racist term for white men who date “outside their race”? I guess race traitor, but are they scourged with any other insulting terms, or are the insults largely reserved for women?

I think that the insults are largely reserved for women. Usually, I think, men who date outside their race either get a free pass because it’s historically been seen as acceptable for white men to have sex with non-white women (particularly because these women were typically of a lower class and had less power) or they get pitied for not being alpha enough to catch a white woman.

@Axecalibur,

I think that that’s pretty much what VD and crew want minorities to do. Become white or cease to exist.

Bina
4 years ago

And of course a woman died, and they’re gleefully celebrating her murder. These are the men who say that they want to defend white women? As a white woman, I have to strongly reject that offer.

Megadittoes. I’ll take my chances with the Evil Others, thankyouverymuch.

Lea
Lea
4 years ago

The lily white lot of them are cackling over a woman’s murder like it’s good sport and they think they are what women should want? How the fuck do they think that works? They’re a bunch of ghouls. What exactly is it about them they think is so special? They’re disgusting.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
4 years ago

Dat ‘male love’ /S

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

@Bina: Some “great white protectors” they are. They don’t give a fuck about “protecting” white women, they just want to control us instead, and are happy when a white woman gets her “cumuppance” for “disobeying”.

This isn’t about “protection” at all. This is just a bunch of angry little children who aren’t getting their way.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
4 years ago

PI
That’s extremely insulting to children I see these p*icks as misogynistic terrorists/abusers/etc. They constantly encourage each other to abuse, manipulate, rape and kill us and share info on how to do that and get away with it.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

@Handsome – there are black serial killers, at about the same rate per capita as white. Call it one in eight.

Of course they’re far more likely to be pursued, caught, and prosecuted, because they overwhelmingly kill white women.

I had to google it, but it seems that 52% of all serial killers between 1900-2010 were white and 40% were black (according to Radford/FGCU database). According to Psychology Today (which I don’t know is a trustful site), 85% of serial killers and 90% of one-time murderers are identified as men.

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
4 years ago

@Iseult:

I believe the term you’re looking for is “oil driller”.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
4 years ago

How expected, seeing women as property and abandon so called “chivalry” when it suits them.

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

@Iseult:
There are a number of unkind, racist phrases for white men who date Asian women. However, those phrases are all meant to mock those men for having (supposedly) poor taste, rather than threaten them for harming the race or whatever. I think your point still stands: men have license to do it, women don’t.

I’ve dated two ethnically Chinese people, and in both cases I have received at least one comment from bystanders which suggested that they thought I was driven to do it by the lax conduct of modern white women. It’s always the woman’s fault, it seems.

brian
brian
4 years ago

@Iseult
are you saying one in eight people are serial killers?
that doesn’t seem quite right…

Steampunked
Steampunked
4 years ago

@brian – at ‘Number of classified Serial Killers worldwide since 1980: 154’ one in eight doesn’t sound correct to me either.

Apparently: Number of classified Serial Killers in the U.S. since 1980 : 87

From: http://www.statisticbrain.com/serial-killer-statistics-and-demographics/

Diptych
Diptych
4 years ago

I believe they mean that the percentage of serial killers that are black is about the same as the percentage of the overall population that is black – ~12.5%. I have no idea if either of those statistics are correct, but that’s my interpretation of their claim.

Kylo Ronin
Kylo Ronin
4 years ago

It’s like all of these shitheads are furiously competing with each other to see who can win Shithead of the Year Award.

Newsflash, shitheads, you all won it. By a fucking landslide.

JennyWren
JennyWren
4 years ago

@Iseult

Which brings up the question, is there a racist term for white men who date “outside their race”? I guess race traitor, but are they scourged with any other insulting terms, or are the insults largely reserved for women?

I think it’s because men aren’t seen as being degraded by sex. A man can have sex with whomever or whatever he likes, and he’s a “top lad”. If a woman does the same thing, her “value” goes down. Sex can apparently ruin a woman, whilst leaving a man untouched. So a woman having sex with a black man would, in their eyes, be an extra-severe hit to her value.

Hence the insults only on one side of the gender divide for white people.

Someone more knowledgeable than I can confirm this, but I’d guess for black people it’s the other way round- black men in relationships with white women getting loads more hassle than black women in relationships with white men, because the black man is seen as “stealing” the white woman, but a black woman can’t “steal” a white man.

varalys the dark
4 years ago

I remember a US based forum I was on in 2006 when the first series of NuWho aired some folks had a real tizzy about Rose being in a relationship with Mickey. I must stress it was only a couple of people who I then preceeded to ignore, but it did surprise me somewhat that it was deemed an issue by anyone. I’m just naive I guess.

Argle Bargle (formerly Carr)
Argle Bargle (formerly Carr)
4 years ago

These are the men who say that they want to defend white women? As a white woman, I have to strongly reject that offer.

Agree. In my country we had a bunch of a-holes stage a protest against immigrants and they call themselfes Civil Squads for defense of women and the faith. Two things about this pissed me off:

1. The faith. Yeah, sure, most people who are religious here are christian, but people in my country rarely care about ”the faith”. They’ll desire a woman other than their own, they’ll cheat if they can get away with it, they’ll wish their neighbor ill and they tend to be more culturally christian than anything else. But when someone mentions people of other faiths or gay people, suddenly they become more catholic than the Pope. Or more orthodox than the Patriarch in this case. They suddenly become religious to defend their bigotry.

2. In defense of women. Funny, I never heard any of them speak out about domestic violence or any kind of violence against women when the violent party is one of their own. When it’s The Other, uuuuuh, then and only then is it a big problem.

As a white woman, I have to decline their um kind offer.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
4 years ago

I’ve probably said this before, but… Vox claims to be a Christian. I’m an atheist, and usually it pisses me off when other atheists try to say who is and who isn’t a Christian – it’s not a distinction they should get to make. But for me Vox is the exception to that rule. From everything I’ve read, he’s not a real Christian; he sounds like a man who has actively chosen evil.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
4 years ago

There was a horrendous case in England a month or two ago where a mother kept her toddler in a cage, regularly left him alone without food while she was out, managed to slip past any social services inspections and he eventualy died. The most important aspect to this story, in the Daily Maul version at least was that she was a lesbian. In fact, they made that the headline as if her sexual orientation was some pre requisite to her being a child abuser.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
4 years ago

@jimbtjo

I no longer identify as a Christian because of this sort of thing, despite still believing in God and seeing Jesus as a great teacher. Christianity and the label ‘Christian’ is too often used to claim moral superiority over others. Nothing they do is in keeping with Jesus teachings, this is why most of the Republicans like to use it to support their warmongering, prejudices and unbridled capitalism.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
4 years ago

@ Virgin Mary – yeah I remember that case, it was horrible. It’s depressing but unsurprising that that was the spin the Mail put on it.

Supermeerkat
Supermeerkat
4 years ago

Is “coalburning” unpleasant slang for any interracial relationship or just for black man / white women?

Spaniard in the Works
Spaniard in the Works
4 years ago

@PI

Of course it’s about “protection”.

Specifically of the “nice white skin you have there. Pity something would happen to it” variety.

Sarah
Sarah
4 years ago

I’ve probably said this before, but… Vox claims to be a Christian. I’m an atheist, and usually it pisses me off when other atheists try to say who is and who isn’t a Christian – it’s not a distinction they should get to make. But for me Vox is the exception to that rule. From everything I’ve read, he’s not a real Christian; he sounds like a man who has actively chosen evil.

He literally calls himself the “Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil” and he used to have “cruelty artist” on his Twitter bio. One has to assume he’s never asked himself what the biblical Jesus would say about him.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Jimbtho

That reasoning assumes that religion is about being good, rather than pretending/claiming to be good.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
4 years ago

@ Imaginary Petal – oh, don’t get me wrong, all sorts of vile people were and are Christians. I think it’s just that Vox seems to so openly revel in being evil and openly opposed to so many values (the equality of humanity before God, the need for mercy, etc) that would be held dear by Christians, that I would take the step of saying ‘you ain’t no Christian’ (even though I don’t really have any right to say that)…
@ Sarah – how am I not surprised? I get the impression that he is ‘Christian’ in the same way Anders Breivik was Christian – i.e. someone who sees Christianity (or at least a certain, volkisch form of it) as a good religion for other people to follow.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

@Imaginary Petal : that’s the problem I have with religion in general. They are one of the most often used excuse to be an utter asshole. Regardless of what a religion say, the only message that some people will retain is that it make them superior and have a free pass for douchebaggery.

On topic : I have a lot of actual hatred for Vox Day. My only solace in that he will very likely die alone and bitter.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@varalys the dark
It doesn’t surprise me that there are people out there who take issue with interracial relationships. What does surprise me is how many of them there are, how comfortable they are with voicing their complaints, and how little impact that has on them socially. I thought that was the type of thing that people would no longer tolerate, but sadly it seems like it’s actually growing in popularity. 🙁

Ellesar
Ellesar
4 years ago

The answer to the question ‘can they (MRAs and assorted far righters) be any more disgusting?’ is always yes.

Bonelady
Bonelady
4 years ago

What you have to take into account with Vox and Christianity, is that he believes that the devil is winning. I don’t think he particularly cares what Jesus thinks of him – he seems to be more into the God of the Old Testament. He is what John Scalzi calls “a Levitican”; i. e. he cares about the rules laid down in Leviticus, not what Jesus said. And, of course, he hates and fears anyone who is not like him, a straight, white, evangelical Christian male.

magnesium
magnesium
4 years ago

Hey David, have you seen this? http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/30/feminist-says-lcbo-privacy-breach-fuelled-flood-of-online-hate/

Even if you totally disengage from the internet and feminism, MRA’s will continue to stalk and harass you because they are just stalkers and abusers who pretend to be a movement about men.

varalys the dark
4 years ago

@kupo: Yes it did surprise me people were so blatant in their disapproval. And lets not get into the whole “Gay Agenda” Russell T Davies was supposedly pushing on people via Doctor Who. Facepalms all round there.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Bonelady

And, of course, he hates and fears anyone who is not like him, a straight, white, evangelical Christian male.

Out in the world preaching the Gospel to others, right?

Not mixing his fabrics (Leviticus 19:19).

Loving his enemies.

And my own favorite, should Vox Day have children: Having his son put to death by the men of the town if he is stubborn and rebellious (Deuteronomy 21:18-21). Daughters aren’t mentioned, so I’m going to just assume this rule doesn’t apply to them.

The Bible: a mixed bag!

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

There are definitely a lot of Christians who think the label of Christianity automatically makes them a good person. No introspection required. No care to behave morally and ethically necessary. Any time someone goes out of their way to make sure everyone knows how devout they are, I know they’re going to be the furthest thing from Christ-like possible. I’m sure in cultures with different dominant religions, the same thing happens.

Lest anyone thinks I’m going into smug atheist mode, I acknowledge that there are also lots of atheists who think being an atheist automatically makes you really rational and intelligent. No need to research and topic and actually be correct about it.

Claire
Claire
4 years ago

I am so pleased that Theodore’s chosen pseudonym is Vox Day as I get to then just refer to him as VD. True, venereal diseases have more class than him but I’ll take my jollies where I can.

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
4 years ago

@Jimbtho – Anders Breivik has since thrown Christianity (and Jesus) under the bus. He has now gone full-on Odinist and neo-Nazi.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ varalys & kupo

I still maintain “Russell T Davies and his Gay Agenda” is a great name for a swing band.

Aunt Podger
Aunt Podger
4 years ago

Wait… maybe I am perusing other media than Day (kind of grateful for that, if so), but it is common to show photographs of murderers with their victims at all? In the case of domestic-abuse murders, I’ll usually see a mugshot or other unflattering picture of the murderer with eyes airbrushed flat and the victim looking as pretty and vivacious as possible (because it can’t be that an abuser appears handsome or charming, that would be too complicated for the public’s tiny brain to comprehend mutter mutter), but very, very rarely are they in the same photograph.

@Alan Robertshaw, you are quite correct about the band

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Aunt Podger

because it can’t be that an abuser appears handsome or charming, that would be too complicated for the public’s tiny brain to comprehend

…unless it’s a white guy.

Jimbtho
Jimbtho
4 years ago

@ Hu’s on First – that’s interesting re Breivik, thanks for keeping me up to date 🙂

lkeke35
lkeke35
4 years ago

jennywren:
I think you may be wrong about black women catching flack for dating white men. It just that the flack often doesn’t come from white people, and when it does, its along the lines of “she made a step up from black men.”, ( or just general sneering) which is a backhanded insult to black men and women. No, the shit we most often get is from black men who say we’ve abandoned them for white men (or sometimes just general sneering.)

JennyWren
JennyWren
4 years ago

@Ikeke35

I see. That makes sense.

Well, no it doesn’t, but I can see the bigoted logic paths.