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Like a lot of people, I’ve watched with a mixture of amusement and incredulity over the past year or so as the term “cuck” has become the insult of choice amongst the Anime Nazis and assorted other miscreants who make up the resurgent far right.
Borrowed from racialized cuckold porn — in which (white) porn husbands watch in aroused horror as their (white) porn wives have sex with more virile black men — the term “cuck” is used to suggest that the recipient of the insult is effete, even effeminate, basically a big fat pussy with a bit of “race traitor” added into the mix.
The word is to alt-right racists what “mangina” is to MRAs. And, much like “mangina,” it’s a consummately ineffective insult. Aside from a few movement conservatives who bristled a bit at being called “cuckservatives,” most of those on the receiving end of the insult see it as being about as meaningful as the clucking of a chicken.
But there is one group of people who have something of a proprietary interest in the term “cuck,” and who aren’t exactly overjoyed that the term has been turned into a Twitter taunt: the actual cuckold fetishists who get off on the complex and kinky psychosexual drama of cuckolding.
Earlier this week, Vice treated us to an interview with “Dave,” a “Southern California entrepreneur and part-time ‘alpha cuck’ in his mid-forties” who is a little peeved that his sexual identity has become an insult.
“They don’t know what [cuck] means within the scene,” he told Vice’s Mike Pearl. “They believe it means inferior. They don’t realize that there certainly are a lot of alpha cucks out there,” guys who enjoy watching their wife or girlfriend with other men but who aren’t interested (mildly NSFW link) in the ritual humiliation of the cuck that gives many cuck fetishists their big sexual charge.
Naturally, the Alt-Right Knights Who Say Cuck find the very notion of “alpha cuckoldry” risible. On the blog 28 Sherman, reactionary racist blogger Ryan Landry responds to the Vice piece with an intermittently coherent rant expressing his no doubt futile hopes that the use of “cuck” as an insult could drive “sick” cucks back into the sexual shadows where they belong.
“Cucks have existed for a long time,” he argues,
but if your society even grants them a neutral approach or tolerance, it is deeply in decline.
The use of cuck as an insult crushes the literal cucks’ mindset because this destroys whatever fake status they are accruing. … By using cuck as an insult, it pierces the bubble these weak f*ggots have of their choices and their sexual depravity.
Huh. I don’t think “alpha cuck” Dave sounded much like someone who’d just had his bubble “pierced” or his mindset “crushed.” He sounded, at least to me, just sort of annoyed.
Landry continues on in much the same vein, suggesting that “cuck” has caught on as an insult because it’s no longer socially acceptable to call someone a “f*ggot.”
These people are a symptom of a sick society. These people should not be glorified or open about their deviancy. They should have to hide their depraved lifestyle. Does anyone know if Muslims throw cucks off rooftops? Even Psychology Today wrote how there is an underlying element of homosexuality in the cuck circles. I’ve mentioned before that literal cucks are a tiny number of men, and that people use it as an insult because f*ggot is not PC anymore. Whether you are getting banged by another man or letting another man bang your wife, sorry, but you’re a f*ggot in the true meaning of the word: a weak man deserving contempt.
It’s kind of amazing how worked up some people can get about the sexual activities of consenting adults.
I’m glad this is one of the few places I can safely say I have an official mental illness diagnosis of mixed bipolar affective disorder with psychosis. That little “P” word seems to really freak people out even though I take a very good anti-psychotic medication and am monitored regularly by a psychiatrist so I’ll only want to stab you in the face not act on it, and hey where did everyone go?! 😀
Off Topic: As someone who has remained oblivious to MRA’s, PUA, MGTOW’s etc until I stumbled across this blog a few months ago (via the comments on a CRacked article oddly) I have been giving my family a crash course in the whiney world of the manosphere. Pretty funny that so far this year the US TV show “Lucifer” has looked at PUA’s (minus beer throwing and unwiped arses sadly). And Bones thoroughly eviscerated the MRA’s. I lol’ed anyway.
@varalys
People are chill here, aren’t they? I’ve literally talked about my occasional hallucinations (generally caused by medication clashes, but sometimes just coming from me) and the times I felt unreal, and nobody blinked. It’s great.
“‘Alpha cuck’? Seriously? That’s cucking hilarious. ‘Other men can screw my wife, but I’m the one whose REALLY IN CHARGE!’”
You think it’s hilarious, but that’s because you don’t know how this stuff works. Lots of people get off profoundly on rituals of humiliation which, basically, they direct (and are responsible for). In BDSM circles, “topping from below” is not a very rare phenomenon — some people object to it and some people don’t, but everybody knows what it is.
“Actually, not so much funny as just skin-crawlingly creepy.”
M’neh. You think the idea of an alpha-cuck is hilarious because you’re not familiar with it and I bet you think it’s creepy for the same reason…if you’re interested (though you might not be) I’d recommend that you read more about what people who engage in this fetish say about themselves…as opposed to what far-right-wingers have to say about them. (Nazis aren’t the world’s most reliable publicists.)
@ varalys
It’s a pity manufacturers of anti-psychotics don’t have the same sort of competitions that cereal companies do. You know the sort of thing: “Tell us in 10 words or less why you love Weetabix!”
That would be a great slogan. 🙂
@peaches: yeah it’s been a great find this place, I have a couple of other forums where mental illness is openly discussed and supported too where I can talk about having a bad day and not worry about freaking people out. But being able to add another, especially one that takes such a hard line on ablism has been brillz.
@Alan: I provide the best testimonials for the drugs I am on. I also have degenerative disc disorder in my upper spine and left knee, so I am on a fentanyl 24 hour patch, which is like super-duper powerful morphine which has proved to mellow me out even more. They should market that on the basis it gives you the kind of vivid lucid dreams poets used to take laudanum to have!
On Topic: I have my limits, I ain’t explaining “Cuck” to my 66 year old mum. She won’t be embarrassed but I will, hopefully that never gets traction enough to show up in a TV show.
@ varalys
Heh, whenever I’m out on codeine I always hope I’ll figure out how ‘Kubla Khan’ was meant to end.
@varalys
Wait, really? Degenetriave disc disorder? Guess what I just had back surgery for late last year? Yeah, the painkillers I was taking combined with my Seroquel led to some wild visual hallucinations. I just sat there and waiting for the blinking lights to stop, thinking “it’s a damn good thing I’m not cleared to drive yet”.
(BTW, the surgery worked. I’m in 75% less pain. I’m thrilled and so was my surgeon. He told me that only about 3 of a hundred of his patients were helped by surgery. Lucked out.)
Nope.
Let’s not do this thing. Let’s not assume that all, or even most, homophobes are actually “secretly gay”.
Most homophobes are straights, and perpetuating this idea that they’re not only shoves the onus of homophobia on the LGBT community, rather than on the society that teaches us that LGBT people are “deviants” and thus are worthy of scorn.
@Alan: I’m on 8 codeine tablets a day and diazepam as a relaxant, I sleep a lot.
@peaches: I haven’t taken the offer of surgery as everyone I knew who had it ended up with less range of movement and more pain. And was given similar stats for how successful it generally is. I’m holding out for the hope they can grow new discs or something. Also the drugs are awesome. Glad it worked for you though 🙂
@ varalys
I bet you do. I pick up quite a few injuries (ambition outweighs ability I guess) so I get through a lot of codeine in a year. It doesn’t half knock you out.
(Which is ironic as it’s getting knocked out that often precedes the need for the codeine. Circle of life.)
@varalys
Yeah, that’s why I say it was luck. Also my surgeon did an excellent job. I had been seeing him for about five years for back pain, and I was shocked when he finally brought up surgery. I didn’t expect it to work at all. But it did, and now I don’t need a cane anymore. I can clean my house instead of getting my 70+ year-old mom to do it for me. It’s been a little over six months, and I still get so excited about basic tasks.
@ peaches
Aww, that’s one of the most heart warming things I’ve ever read. I’m glad it all worked out for you.
I was on the verge of needing a cane until I went on the patch when the pain was becoming unbearable and impacting my precarious mental health. Unfortunately my knee has joined in with my back starting a few months back, and I think I need to badger my GP for a referral back to the chronic pain management clinic for assessment. I can live without the codeine, maybe take something stronger but I ain’t letting them take my patch!
Ironically all the sleeping during the day means I actually suffer from insomnia and need to take a sleeping pill to just get five hours at night. It sounds bizarre but there we go. Of course if I’m not up by five my cat starts his devilment, either by twanging my lips with his paw, nibbling my ears or (worst of all) licking my eyelids, because he wants out like NOW. I actually tend to sleep better in June/July/August because he wants to be out all night. Still he comes for snuggles, kisses and belly rubs enough times during the day that I don’t resent him too much 😀
Man, I’m jealous of people that opiods actually work for. I must have some really wonky cell receptors because they do nothing for me- no help with pain, don’t make me sleepy, nothing. Doctors don’t believe me when I tell them not to bother prescribing any for me. The only pain med that works consistently and well for me is ibuprofen, which means if my liver ever goes I’m screwed.
I’m the opposite, prescribed ibruprofen did nothing for me except make me hurl my guts out. Codeine makes me a bit nauseous (although I suspect it’s the paracetmol it’s mixed with more than the codeine) which is why I was grateful the patch which just makes me feel warm and snuggly let me drop the dosage down. Glad it works well for you though if opiods don’t do the job.
Just out of curiosity, how long does a patch last for you? The last vet clinic I worked at occasionally had a surgeon come in to do knee surgeries on dogs and he would have us put a Fentanyl patch on them post-op. I can’t remember how long it’d be on, but I think it was less than a week.
I take it you’ve never commanded two or more people to copulate in front of you for your pleasure? It’s a trip.
It’s 72 hours, so basically change it every three days. It’s 25 micrograms an hour the dosage I am on, I don’t know if I can go higher. Maybe but again would need to see the chronic pain specialist for that not just my GP.
Re: “Meh”
Isn’t it an amazing fact about human behavior that people who brag about being “logical” always fail hard at logic.
Bekabot,
It’s my understanding that subs are considered just as much in charge as doms. That there’s an art to it where the sub makes their partner want to dominate them and the dom makes their partner want to submit. Anyone who knows more about it can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s my impression.
Cuck obsessed Nazi types seem to be under the mistaken impression that someone who takes a submissive or passive role in the bedroom must be a weak person in all aspects of life. What a shock that these guys spout off about things they don’t understand, huh?
@wwth
For PUAs and the like, life is just one long roleplay anyway. They probably can’t relate to playing pretend for just a short time, without letting it take over your entire life.
I think one thing with how they fixate on how “alpha” they are and using “cuck” as an insult, is that they want to claim all men secretly agree with them. Any man agreeing with them is sincere. Any man disagreeing is just too weak-willed to voice their agreement.
@The Submissive conversation: Slight TMI ahead, if you’re not into discussion of kinks. There will also be NSFW links and such.
Hi, I am a person who likes to be submissive in the bedroom (just ask Jackie, bow chika wow wow), and I feel like maybe I can help clarify matters, just a bit?
I am submissive in the bedroom, but this doesn’t mean I’m someone who will let others just walk all over me in other aspects of life. If someone tried to “dominate” me against my will (especially after we just met), chances are I’d get verbally feral with them, and verbally rip them a new one.
You can’t just walk up to a submissive (or submissive equivalent, like a kitten or a little) and expect them to bend over backwards for you. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of this shit going on with Wannabe Doms (and sometimes dommes) in the BDSM community.
(And yes, there is also a submissive equivalent.)
So many subs, taken or not, will experience someone waltzing up to them and being like “On your knees, [slur]! I’m your master now!” and it’s really fucking gross, because one, it completely ignores if that sub is already taken, and two, it completely ignores that sub’s autonomy.
And so many of these wannabes also think that “dom/me” means that “this person is my personal sex toy and has no autonomy of their own, and thus will do everything I tell them to”, and when, inevitably, they are proven wrong, they get nasty and violent.
The worst part is, many of them will go and find an inexperienced sub and groom them to expect shitty dom behaviors, and think of them as “normal”.
The thing about getting a submissive to be your sub is, it is always earned. You (general “you”) have to earn the right to be my dom/me by proving to me you are worthy of my leash, and you have to understand that the only reason you hold my leash is because I’m allowing you to, and that privilege can be revoked at any time, for whatever reason I see fit. And you can also relinquish my leash for whatever reason you see fit.
Because the relationship, just like any other relationship, must be consensual. If I’m not consenting to it, you aren’t getting any. If you aren’t consenting to it, I’m not getting any. Simple as that.
The submissive in a D/S relationship is of equal standing to the dom/me. And no, this isn’t just for “power bottoms”, this is for ALL subs. The sub has the right to terminate the relationship for any reason, set their boundaries (which MUST be obeyed), and they have the right to make rules and decline play, regardless of if the Dom/me wants to or not.
The dom/me MUST sit down with their sub and discuss these things with them, and boundaries must be established. Communication is an essential part of a healthy BDSM relationship, or even any relationship in general. (A contract can be made up, but it’s not legally binding at all.)
Which partially explains why I hate 50 Shades so fucking much.
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I am really glad those who enjoy the cuckolding fetish are speaking out and are these morons in their place. The word cuck has been grossly misused and flung around all over the place. These guys even throw it a a cuck storm just because there was a black actor in the Force Awakens, even though there was a black actor in the original trilogy, and whine about the ‘white genocide’ everytime a person of colour acts in anything.
@MissEB47: Ah, but that black actor wasn’t starring in the movie! He was just a background character who didn’t outshine the properly white actors! [/sarcasm]
They’re just mad that John Boyega is ten times more decent and beloved than they’ll ever be.